Would love defensor, needs the upgrade since the cw one wasn't too good imo compared to superion which was one of the best of the set doesn't need the upgrade. Only reason people want sup it's because he was the 1st bot combiner l.e. nostalgia and because he's supposed to go only against menasor according to some because again G1. 😂
I pre-ordered this ages ago, I can't wait for it to finally be available, great review buddy!! Just really hoping they make an update kit for an alternative hood for breakdown and then the stunticons team would be perfect
To be completely honest, I was on the verge of selling my completed Menasor now that I got the final Stunticon last week. I was just so underwhelmed by the final look. I have to say this DNA upgrade might actually persuade me to keep it! Honestly, I would LOVE an KO Oversized of Menasor. The bigger the better! lol
I agree. I don’t like the silver piece obscures the face from looking left and right. Especially with the new rifle, looks like you couldn’t see what your shooting at lol. Every thing else looks great though.
Waiting for my copy of this Kit and Breakdown to Ship! Very excited to get this all combined as I have left all my other Stunticons in package until I had everything in had to enjoy a full experience of this team! Another great review as always.
I absolutely love your reviews, as they are pretty concise, and very informative. I trust your reviews and have made purchases off of them, as you tend to say it as it is. Thank you for being informative and entertaining.
Hey, Prime vs Prime if you still have those gripes with SS 86 Wheelie than you should check out the go better studio upgrade kit for him which fixes the butt kibble and hands in vehicle mode.
The main thing I was expecting/looking for was a leg fix so you can display him with the cars forward on the legs. That's the main thing I would want an upgrade kit for.
It's great that this is available for those who want it. Currently at $73 on ShowZ it's just too much without knowing if the same upgrades can be done to future gestalts who will probably be in scale with the Legacy line. For me the bees knees is getting a new trailer designed from the ground up, remove the base gimic, in scale with CW Devy. I get the cars probably would look puny, but man that would be awesome!
Wasn't there an upgrade kit that made it so Wildrider and Breakdown were on the front side of the legs? Also, what's up with them being behind the legs instead of the front?
Concerning the sword not staying on Menasor's back... In my kit, I had to slightly file the thin, rectangular tab on the sword cross guard. If you look closely, it's not a perfect rectangle. It only took me 1 minute to fix with a very thin file.
If I were given the task of making a set of the five Aerialbots they would be upgraded to the current jets that the military are using now. With Silverbolt I would go with the Darkstar jet from Top Gun Maverick to create him.
Great review! Thank you! Hmmmm. Definitely have to think about this one. I was all for it, originally, but that chest piece having to partsform might be the deal-breaker.
This is awesome. One thing I would probably wish to see is maybe some mention of a Shattered Glass Menasor and maybe a gen-selects multi-pack SG Insecticons.
I pre-ordered mine 7 months ago and I didn't get an extra sword. However I did get another version of the piece that holds the sword and acts like a trailer hitch that actually works so I'm happy.
Ok, wait....I don't see the RED sword in the ad when buying this. Is it a pre-sale freebie? And from which site please? Because the linked it's in the description of this video does not show the red sword
Alright, got him upgraded...And i kinda wish I had only done half of it. His waist is screwed up now due to the skirt not pressing against the ratchet waist properly and it's impossible to properly upgrade his legs due to springs in them with only one junction point.
im surprised they werent able to integrate the chest piece, the length of the shoulder vents is perfect for the extended thighs with a few modifications and a set of hinges at the base.
If they were not going to make the chest piece capable of being implemented in the transformation, they could have included the auto-roller that formed the chest piece of the original toy.
It should have come with a better gun instead of parts to make that large piece into an odd looking gun. Still, the fact that such an extensive kit is needed to make this combiner look much better really shows how Hasbro still needs to do better than this for what they charge for these figures.
I struggled with reinstalling the ratchet joints into his replacement hip piece until i realised the ratchets were a little larger than the alcoves they were being installed into. They just needed to be pushed into the alcoves with a little bit of force using the tips of my tweezers and then they went in no problem. Installing the spring-loaded leg joints into the thighs was a NIGHTMARE. That might just be my fumble-fingered incompetence talking though.
Upgrade kit for a $200 combiner. Lately these kits are starting to feel more like necessary fixes than upgrades. (Sludge) I fear the better these kits are made. The more sloppy Hasbro will become
I wish they would have omitted the pieces for the left over section and maybe charged a little more and given us a nice gun that could use the tab and slot method of being held in the hand
Instead of shoes they should have made replacements for the knee joints so you can rotate the calf cars to the front, that way you could actually see them and pretend that it is a combiner and not a giant robot with car armor.
Am I missing something when it comes to getting the original chestplate off? I see videos of people popping it off like it's nothing but mine is on a swivel that feels like it's going to break if I apply any more pressure.
@primevsprime i just wanted to know if you are going to review the deamon kinght oversized combiner wars defensor it looks so epic i think you should review it
@@geek_fleet_games I finally did get mine to pop but it took a while. Apply steady, firm pressure when pulling, but be careful not to go overboard and crack anything. Try giving it a bit of a wiggle while pulling (that's what she said!) and try pulling it at a bit of an angle instead of straight upwards. The angled pull is what got mine to finally pop out. Best of luck to you!
I wish they made an upgrade to turn the vehicles to the front on the legs, other then that it's a nice set. He needed to be taller articulate hands and a better sword for sure. It's like they work together so you have to spend more money after spending so much on the figures.
@Starling Valverde Rojas I'll check it out they needed to do that so bad, in my opinion. It will be nice to be able to see all the vehicles at once and be able to pose them. All they have to do is make the knee hinge bend the opposite way. I haven't tried it yet but I was wondering if you could take it apart and turn them around so they bend the opposite way that they do now so the vehicles face forward. With the vehicles facing forward, you could just pose them and not have to depend on them to hold the figure up. The feet hold it up good already. Hopefully, that doesn't change if they turn around. If there's a Clarence issue, they could make the joint extend and contract if it needs to. If you want, you can just change it back so the cars are in the back of you want to. Thanks for the heads up, my friend.
Hmmm. 1:11...it's REALLY CLOSE, but not quite on the money. The stickers there on the G1 toy are a red outline around a silver background with a thin black grid...guessing they're supposed to be vents or something. (You even showed a pic of the G1 toy, at 6:18) This makes me reconsider gettin' the Stunticons, but it's gonna be tough thanks to Hasbro's typical abysmal distribution and Target's equally abysmal stock ordering practices.
This set accomplishes a lot. But overlooks two key points to me: ease of use, you're basically lego-bricking the toy from one from to the next, and even more important to me: 5mm pegs in the hands. Any 3P part or heck, any other weapon the line and past lines come with cannot be held by Menasor. And there's more than enough realestate in those hands. So, alas, a skip for me, like the last battalion of DNA kits, this one also seems to be missing the mark imho.
I probably will not end up getting this kit mostly because I applied the toyhax labels to motormaster's trailer and it will not flow into the trailer extension.
Overall the kit just has more than I want which makes the price high. The thighs are nice since it makes the proportions better but other than that I mostly want a new sword and a proper gun for an upgrade.
Man I cannot wait to get this. It looks so good. I haven’t combined mine yet as I’m waiting for breakdown to be released. Why is he taking so long dammit 🤬
My only desire from this set is the sword. Is it 5mm compatible? I ask because a buddy will give the pink sword by itself since I don’t want the rest of the kit.
If I'd known this was coming out, I would have picked up an extra Motormaster when I found him at a liquidation warehouse for cheap. Has anyone made a trailer for Prime that is better sized yet?
Its a real mixed bag. I wish we could buy the upgrade parts we want and skip the ones we dont. I'd take the sword, hands, thighs and feet and they can keep the rest. $70 to $100 for the kit is also a tough pill to swallow for a combiner thats already the most expensive chug piece I own.
All I really want are leg extenders and a bigger sword. The rest seems a bit of justifying price point to me. I think I'm looking for a $20 or at most $30 kit.
I hope Transformers Legacy gets Defensor to look more cartoon accurate as well as their vehicle modes and their animation models for the characters
Superion is superior
That would be cool!
@@tgatt5759That’s what I’m saying
@@tgatt5759 Literally.
Would love defensor, needs the upgrade since the cw one wasn't too good imo compared to superion which was one of the best of the set doesn't need the upgrade. Only reason people want sup it's because he was the 1st bot combiner l.e. nostalgia and because he's supposed to go only against menasor according to some because again G1. 😂
I hope to see an upgrade kit for Earthrise Megatron like a piece that would go in front of his tank mode to cover his head underneath.
Finally combined Menasor last night, ordered the upgrade kit today.
Awesome video as always!
finally a upgrade kit for menasor ,it looks so much better than stock great review again pvp
Thanks so much!
I pre-ordered this ages ago, I can't wait for it to finally be available, great review buddy!! Just really hoping they make an update kit for an alternative hood for breakdown and then the stunticons team would be perfect
4:45 that yellowing on Breakdown 💀💀💀
To be completely honest, I was on the verge of selling my completed Menasor now that I got the final Stunticon last week. I was just so underwhelmed by the final look. I have to say this DNA upgrade might actually persuade me to keep it! Honestly, I would LOVE an KO Oversized of Menasor. The bigger the better! lol
Have you looked at the toyhax labels for him? They really brought mine to life.
I’m actually happy that the new chest plate isn’t included in the transformation, as I like the official one
Ah fair enough! =)
Don’t really like the new chest plate but otherwise I’d say it’s pretty good, might buy
I agree. I don’t like the silver piece obscures the face from looking left and right. Especially with the new rifle, looks like you couldn’t see what your shooting at lol. Every thing else looks great though.
The new chest plate is old toy accurate , but since there are not toy accurate Head , So Weird
Well I don't like it either but it's not like every part of the kit is mandatory
Definitely wanna get this kit for Menasor! It makes him look way better
I still need to buy Motormaster, though
I agree! Way cooler for the combined mode! :)
Waiting for my copy of this Kit and Breakdown to Ship! Very excited to get this all combined as I have left all my other Stunticons in package until I had everything in had to enjoy a full experience of this team! Another great review as always.
I absolutely love your reviews, as they are pretty concise, and very informative. I trust your reviews and have made purchases off of them, as you tend to say it as it is. Thank you for being informative and entertaining.
Hey, Prime vs Prime if you still have those gripes with SS 86 Wheelie than you should check out the go better studio upgrade kit for him which fixes the butt kibble and hands in vehicle mode.
I was interested in that as it looks great, but again for the price I'll just get a 3rd party MP Wheelie and call it day.
I really hope bruticus is next for a combiner
there prob wont be, since there are *garbage* versions of him, and no one really likes him anymore
@@D3adSk3l1yexcuse me!
Him and Superion will be next
The new articulated fingers help out a lot!
Agreed! Much better!
Impressive that the upgrade kit makes the trailer longer than the stock one Hasbro gave. I wish it was originally long without the upgrade kit.
This was an interesting one. It's a shame Upgrade kits are needed at all. Some of them are essential, though.
Dude, you’re the best agent UA-camr ever and transformers is my super Duper Duper ancient ancient favourite
Great kit, I prefer the original chest piece, so I left the upgraded one in the box. but it's definitely a quality piece of gear.
The main thing I was expecting/looking for was a leg fix so you can display him with the cars forward on the legs. That's the main thing I would want an upgrade kit for.
It's great that this is available for those who want it. Currently at $73 on ShowZ it's just too much without knowing if the same upgrades can be done to future gestalts who will probably be in scale with the Legacy line. For me the bees knees is getting a new trailer designed from the ground up, remove the base gimic, in scale with CW Devy. I get the cars probably would look puny, but man that would be awesome!
You can grab a preorder for it on BBTS for 49.99.
I’ve been waiting for you to review this!
Thank you mate! 🙏🏻
I do like that the chest piece doesn't just slide on over the default one, since mine broke a part off during transformation.
Wasn't there an upgrade kit that made it so Wildrider and Breakdown were on the front side of the legs? Also, what's up with them being behind the legs instead of the front?
Yes, but it's a separate thing that PvP isn't reviewing here.
Wild rider and Breakdown sit on the back of the legs because of G1 cartoon accuracy.
@@LoftyLoo Huh... how did I never realize that? I guess I'm more used to Devastation, which had them on the front.
Concerning the sword not staying on Menasor's back... In my kit, I had to slightly file the thin, rectangular tab on the sword cross guard. If you look closely, it's not a perfect rectangle. It only took me 1 minute to fix with a very thin file.
We al ready have Skids,Burn out,and Crosscut (coming) now we just need to get Red five or Reboost! (A good Gen selects idea)
I never would have known the sword splits into three pieces if you hadn't shown it.
Ohh yes! Mainly for storage tho
haha i love the transforming effect you made by yourself
Keep up the amazing work on your videos!
If I were given the task of making a set of the five Aerialbots they would be upgraded to the current jets that the military are using now. With Silverbolt I would go with the Darkstar jet from Top Gun Maverick to create him.
So what i gather… if im not planning on replacing the chest (already wasn’t gonna) this is a complete win
Great review! Thank you! Hmmmm. Definitely have to think about this one. I was all for it, originally, but that chest piece having to partsform might be the deal-breaker.
This is awesome. One thing I would probably wish to see is maybe some mention of a Shattered Glass Menasor and maybe a gen-selects multi-pack SG Insecticons.
That would be cool!
I pre-ordered mine 7 months ago and I didn't get an extra sword. However I did get another version of the piece that holds the sword and acts like a trailer hitch that actually works so I'm happy.
Stunticons...the only combiner in which you DONT need the cars to make Menasor.
Ok, wait....I don't see the RED sword in the ad when buying this. Is it a pre-sale freebie? And from which site please? Because the linked it's in the description of this video does not show the red sword
Alright, got him upgraded...And i kinda wish I had only done half of it. His waist is screwed up now due to the skirt not pressing against the ratchet waist properly and it's impossible to properly upgrade his legs due to springs in them with only one junction point.
Nice. My breakdown came yesterday, so my set is complete, but I think I could do without this set. Wouldn't mind the hands though. And the sword.
im surprised they werent able to integrate the chest piece, the length of the shoulder vents is perfect for the extended thighs with a few modifications and a set of hinges at the base.
I don't have any of the legacy stunticons, this looks fantastic on its own.
I'll wait a million years just for a Bruticus as cool as this Menasor
The leg extension pieces are kicking my butt. Getting that spring in place is no fun.
Oh primus. Menasors gone war for Cybertron mode
Can’t wait for this set
Really hoping there will be an OVERSIZED version of this.
This the best version of Menisor I've seen
The OS version will be trash, just like most KOs out there.
I'd rather just get a different Titan class figure tbh.
Sure wish they added a piece to somehow prevent the rear wheels on the trailer from flexing outwards. Like an axle bar that attached between them.
Awesome review, very informative, thank you so much 😊👍
If they were not going to make the chest piece capable of being implemented in the transformation, they could have included the auto-roller that formed the chest piece of the original toy.
It should have come with a better gun instead of parts to make that large piece into an odd looking gun. Still, the fact that such an extensive kit is needed to make this combiner look much better really shows how Hasbro still needs to do better than this for what they charge for these figures.
I put those upgrades on my dog, she look dope as hell!
Oh wicked! :’) lol
I struggled with reinstalling the ratchet joints into his replacement hip piece until i realised the ratchets were a little larger than the alcoves they were being installed into. They just needed to be pushed into the alcoves with a little bit of force using the tips of my tweezers and then they went in no problem.
Installing the spring-loaded leg joints into the thighs was a NIGHTMARE. That might just be my fumble-fingered incompetence talking though.
Oh I agree! Those 2 aspects of installation were an absolute pain!
Upgrade kit for a $200 combiner. Lately these kits are starting to feel more like necessary fixes than upgrades. (Sludge)
I fear the better these kits are made. The more sloppy Hasbro will become
That chest piece and the rifle dongles would be box warmers for me. But overall, not too bad.
I would get new wheels for the trailer, would probably fix the balance problem
I wish i could fin the components for menasor in stor but my local Walmart has no wave 2 deluxes and no Motormaster spot. ☹
I wish they would have omitted the pieces for the left over section and maybe charged a little more and given us a nice gun that could use the tab and slot method of being held in the hand
I really want a G1 head, without the two stick antenna. I want the G1-style crest.
All that and still no gun for Motormaster. And Prime is the king of the road.
Instead of shoes they should have made replacements for the knee joints so you can rotate the calf cars to the front, that way you could actually see them and pretend that it is a combiner and not a giant robot with car armor.
Am I missing something when it comes to getting the original chestplate off? I see videos of people popping it off like it's nothing but mine is on a swivel that feels like it's going to break if I apply any more pressure.
Wow mensor is so cool this is an upgrade and a half
i wish one day we got a kit that can make menasor leg with the car facing forward
I think I prefer to stock chest piece....the rest is way better
This guy: Shows the huge and maybe the best upgrade kit for menasor ever created:
Me having only Dragstrip: 👁️👄👁️
@primevsprime i just wanted to know if you are going to review the deamon kinght oversized combiner wars defensor it looks so epic i think you should review it
Oh I didn’t know there was a defensor out right now :)
@@PrimeVsPrime yeah just seach deamon knight defensor
Im still waiting for my last vehicle! When is this kit coming out? I order myself one, but cannot find possible release date
I was wondering about the hands and other things! Hmm, I feel like I should get another set just to do this one. hmm
Cool video mister primevsprime
Thanks so much!
two word "tooling cost" is why hasbro did not do extra parts for the trailer.
What kind of screwdriver did you use to remove the screws from original parts to install the upgrade kit parts?
8:33 you Vs the guy she tells you not to worry about XD
How did you swap the chest pieces?? Mine won’t come off!
Agreed. That looked way easy. Mine is immovable.
@@geek_fleet_games I finally did get mine to pop but it took a while. Apply steady, firm pressure when pulling, but be careful not to go overboard and crack anything. Try giving it a bit of a wiggle while pulling (that's what she said!) and try pulling it at a bit of an angle instead of straight upwards. The angled pull is what got mine to finally pop out. Best of luck to you!
I wish they made an upgrade to turn the vehicles to the front on the legs, other then that it's a nice set. He needed to be taller articulate hands and a better sword for sure. It's like they work together so you have to spend more money after spending so much on the figures.
That’s true! That would’ve been a nice option
There is already one kit now, I think it's from TFLab, not sure.
@Starling Valverde Rojas I'll check it out they needed to do that so bad, in my opinion. It will be nice to be able to see all the vehicles at once and be able to pose them. All they have to do is make the knee hinge bend the opposite way. I haven't tried it yet but I was wondering if you could take it apart and turn them around so they bend the opposite way that they do now so the vehicles face forward. With the vehicles facing forward, you could just pose them and not have to depend on them to hold the figure up. The feet hold it up good already. Hopefully, that doesn't change if they turn around. If there's a Clarence issue, they could make the joint extend and contract if it needs to. If you want, you can just change it back so the cars are in the back of you want to. Thanks for the heads up, my friend.
Prime now has trailer Envy
Hmmm. 1:11...it's REALLY CLOSE, but not quite on the money. The stickers there on the G1 toy are a red outline around a silver background with a thin black grid...guessing they're supposed to be vents or something. (You even showed a pic of the G1 toy, at 6:18)
This makes me reconsider gettin' the Stunticons, but it's gonna be tough thanks to Hasbro's typical abysmal distribution and Target's equally abysmal stock ordering practices.
YOOOO I JUST ORDERED MOTERMASTER
Feel like, if I get this kit, I could do without the new chest & shoulder piece.
This set accomplishes a lot. But overlooks two key points to me: ease of use, you're basically lego-bricking the toy from one from to the next, and even more important to me: 5mm pegs in the hands. Any 3P part or heck, any other weapon the line and past lines come with cannot be held by Menasor. And there's more than enough realestate in those hands.
So, alas, a skip for me, like the last battalion of DNA kits, this one also seems to be missing the mark imho.
When I get this Im not gonna put the chest piece on I need that decepticon symbol in my life no need to cover it up
Just got my kit. Will be installing soon! What are your thoughts on the chances of more combiners in either legacy or studio series 86?
I just waiting for mine to ship out
I probably will not end up getting this kit mostly because I applied the toyhax labels to motormaster's trailer and it will not flow into the trailer extension.
Will there ever be a g2 upgrade kit for mensor
So the only piece I was interested about (the chest) doesn't fit in the trailer and is a leftover ? thanks for htis review, you made me save money.
I wish the joint inversed the legs to make break down and wildrider facing infront
Other than the hands, I like mine the way he is..
Overall the kit just has more than I want which makes the price high. The thighs are nice since it makes the proportions better but other than that I mostly want a new sword and a proper gun for an upgrade.
i think im gonna get this kit, but i'll just use the thigh extenders and articulated hands.
Man I cannot wait to get this. It looks so good. I haven’t combined mine yet as I’m waiting for breakdown to be released. Why is he taking so long dammit 🤬
My only desire from this set is the sword. Is it 5mm compatible? I ask because a buddy will give the pink sword by itself since I don’t want the rest of the kit.
I’m glad the knock off version of this exists because I was not paying upwards of a hundred dollars for the extra pieces that I didn’t even want
KO version of the DNA kit?
Next review idea
Dotm 2011 deluxe class crankcase
The original chest plate on mine has a pin through it which I can't remove so I am unable to attach the new chest plate, did you have that problem?
Oh not at all. Mine just came clean off 😮 I didn’t know there was suppose to be a pin
@@PrimeVsPrime Mine seems to be a rareity.....very odd.
Great review! I don't need this. I would only like the hands.
I don't understand why the cars are on the back of his legs , like really what is the point if you can't see them ?
You should try to get the masterpiece version of terrorsaur.
If I'd known this was coming out, I would have picked up an extra Motormaster when I found him at a liquidation warehouse for cheap.
Has anyone made a trailer for Prime that is better sized yet?
I don’t think anyone has made a trailer sadly :(
Those grey pieces on chest part are too tall I think. But not bad.
I agree! Or they should’ve folded
Nice kit but I fill that needs more time and effort to be a great one, specially work on chest and make all pieces usefull too on base mode.
Its a real mixed bag.
I wish we could buy the upgrade parts we want and skip the ones we dont.
I'd take the sword, hands, thighs and feet and they can keep the rest.
$70 to $100 for the kit is also a tough pill to swallow for a combiner thats already the most expensive chug piece I own.
All I really want are leg extenders and a bigger sword. The rest seems a bit of justifying price point to me. I think I'm looking for a $20 or at most $30 kit.