When I was a teenager I did fencing. Our instructor gave us homework over the summer, he let us bring home a foil and gave us each a en empty box of matches with a string. He said “you need to hit this box of matches 50 times in a row before the summer ends.” Man, that was hard, but we did it. We had to practice every day. I miss fencing.
@@JustGrowingUp84 That's why you don't train alone. I usually do what I call "surprise training". I take my rapier out on the street and pick some random person to train with, I don't warn them or even give them any sort of weapon, fights can be unexpected like that and we have to try and keep things realistic sometimes, which is why I also use sharp blades. Usually they get tired or something after I hit them with a few cuts or thrusts and just crumple to the ground. At this point usually you can loot them, wallets with money in them are very common, which you can use to buy better gear! Who says training can't give loot?
I really like the rapier as a weapon since it rewards the user, if you don't know how to use it it's almost useless but if you know how to, it rewards you with a extremely effective weapon on targets
Thank you. I bought a training rapier because I want to use the controlled movement drills to rehab my joints. So this video is a big help and a good starting point.
Wow very nice! In your footwork drills I am reminded of Xing Yi (a Chinese martial art) Very cool to see so much similarity in completely different things :)
I'm also reminded of Liu He Ba Fa, and the half-steps that extend and power the lunge add to that. Unfortunately, heel up toes down on the rear foot should conduct to a change, not be a permanent feature of a boxed form. Too much instability, and too much mass centered on the front foot limit options, and limit how you can do your shift.
We have a couple, go to our channel and search: "Solo cutting patterns" and "Solo Cutting Drills" Also our two videos "How to throw a proper descending/ascending" cut would apply. But we may make a more comprehensive video in the future. Thanks for the suggestion!
I like how you are not neglecting the usability of a Rapier to strike and cut. My impression is that many sparring partners from random schools on community events simply do not want to take care of having hand protection and some padding for Rapier and tell me "you don't cut with a Rapier, stop it"... By the way after hitting them of course. So I'd say it is effective. If one does not want to be hit a bit, he can go to sport fencing and use a Floret or similar. It's no offence, but in fact I'm a bit annoyed of all the thrust only guys
i am really interested in historicalfencing i love it so much! im 32 now. f i wanted to start learning how to fence how far could i get on my own. the nearest club to me i believe is 50 some od miles from here and i have no transport. im also on a fixed income because of some mental issues i have. i think this would give me a new goal as well as some exercise. is it possible to start learning this on my own solo? i dont have anyone else around me that would be of use to learning i think
I just recently started usng the rapier, and the feel is so different from the nodachi, katana, tachi, the odachi, the naginata, the zweihander...its weird, i started with live practice against a sparring partner as I wish to learn helpful information to increase my odds of winning as practicing against a sparring partner at full intensity allows you not only to improve but learn from your mistakes and discover how to best fix them. have to say great video and could you direct me to where i can find a book or manuscript to enchance my studys of this art?
Just finding out about HEMA, have never seen it before--I am an old classic fencer. Did you start with fencing and move to HEMA or did you start with HEMA and does this sport have all the techniques associated with learning fencing skills or are many people just slashing about?
What are some good cheap rapiers that a beginner like me could use, I want to learn fencing but there's no school or anything near me so I can't use a loaner that a school would havr
Right now the ones we recommend are from HF armory. In our opinion these ones are the best value for a beginner rapier on the market. hf-armory.com/en/shop/weapon/rapiers/club-rapier-gdf/?alg_currency=USD
ok... haven't picked up my rapier in a while. Tried this. It was fun but my arm didn't seem too happy afterwards. I'm not the strongest person but I'm not weak; I lift heavy stuff at work all the time. I've done longsword in the past never noticed this so I'm assuming it is from the sword being held at arm's length ...Any advice on how to strengthen my arm or should I just keep practicing until it feels normal?
Chaosism What we usually do at practice is once the right arm gets tired, switch to left until the legs get tired. Realistically the arm gets tired before the legs so switching to the left is always good training in case you injure your right, and it allows for you to continue working on your legs.
2nd Part, Seems like excessive wind up for a Rapier cut??? Is there a reason it is not advisable to keep the movement tighter perhaps just down to a turn of the wrist? If the damage is done mostly on the withdraw anyway why not just flick it onto target with a tighter movement?
AKlover because you still need speed, power and rotation behind the draw to power it. The mechanics behind a draw cut and a hewing cut are the same until contact; where here you draw instead of arching the tip through the target. Neither will work efficiently without proper speed and rotation. Not to mention the potential of injury of swinging around a heavy rapier with just your wrist.
@@ottoderrmann786 I do not believe that they serve vastly different purposes. There are very straight forward linear movements to get from A to B in the shortest amount of time. Around the time when most rapier manuals were written, linear footwork as invented by the Italian school was just in its infancy. 300 years later we have sport fencing, which developped and perfected this linear framework, and weeded out the bad parts. Obviously a rapier duel is not the same activity as sport fencing, but pretty much ALL the footwork concepts of épée sport fencing apply to rapier. I see it as an evolution.
Is this the Red mage rotation from the game Final Fantasy XIV? Leaks for 5.0, my lovely girlfriend is looking for some. Please respond. Thank you, good video.
Wait until you see swords in comics (Koreans are especially culpable here)…it hurts my soul. Horrible 3d models, training consisting of nothing more than oberhau incessantly, rapiers being used as longswords, “knight” orders that are usually only armored with some form of Pauldrons, which are useless anyway since every weapon works like a lightsaber. And that’s just the swords. Rarely do we see polearms, and firearms…I read one the other day where the gun was some horrid imitation of a flintlock pistol, and it was firing whole rounds. Not the bullet, the whole round.
with due respect you are moving your arm above your head, for which opposite player can easily judge where you are thinking to hit, moving arm above or behind head also weakened defence and expose you for opposite player,
Awesome. Back to the regular programming, then? Not that I dislike the other videos you’ve all uploaded recently, I’ve just really missed the drilling and sword talk.
I would like to sword fight with her I would loose but I want to anyway. I want the experience for trying my best and seeing the tecnecs work on the reserving end.
Your rear foot is not well placed. You must turn it to left if you dont want to get hurt. That position its valid in Messer, but not in rapier. You could ask to my master Ricardo Soto Caride
Targeting pad... 30 years ago we trained with a fender wash on a string, motionless at first, then swinging, the doubles and triples. Point control matters And in the real world of dueling, letting your blade get behind you with such wide swings is slow & unnecessary. I am all for flash and fancy being from the Hutton-Cavens tradition, but wielding a rapier (and footwork)like a cut and thrust weapon is a mistake.
When I was a teenager I did fencing. Our instructor gave us homework over the summer, he let us bring home a foil and gave us each a en empty box of matches with a string.
He said “you need to hit this box of matches 50 times in a row before the summer ends.”
Man, that was hard, but we did it. We had to practice every day. I miss fencing.
Training is ALWAYS a grind.
Yup, and this doesn't even drop any loot... :(
You're doing it wrong then. Either you are not learning something new, you are not being challenged, or you are burned out and need change.
Grinding is the best way to gain exp.
:)
@@JustGrowingUp84 That's why you don't train alone. I usually do what I call "surprise training". I take my rapier out on the street and pick some random person to train with, I don't warn them or even give them any sort of weapon, fights can be unexpected like that and we have to try and keep things realistic sometimes, which is why I also use sharp blades. Usually they get tired or something after I hit them with a few cuts or thrusts and just crumple to the ground. At this point usually you can loot them, wallets with money in them are very common, which you can use to buy better gear! Who says training can't give loot?
@@googleminus1442 Lol, perfect solution!
I really like the rapier as a weapon since it rewards the user, if you don't know how to use it it's almost useless but if you know how to, it rewards you with a extremely effective weapon on targets
Im practicing a heavy longsword and a katana and the basic principles of these drills are super easy to use with other swords
The way you explain not only is perfectly clear but also very relaxing to listen to! Great job!
Thank you. I bought a training rapier because I want to use the controlled movement drills to rehab my joints.
So this video is a big help and a good starting point.
Great information, thank you for all the effort put into these drill videos.
Thanks guys! You are all awesome!
Wow very nice!
In your footwork drills I am reminded of Xing Yi (a Chinese martial art)
Very cool to see so much similarity in completely different things :)
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@@globyboulga1045 i dunno have you seen the comments
I'm also reminded of Liu He Ba Fa, and the half-steps that extend and power the lunge add to that. Unfortunately, heel up toes down on the rear foot should conduct to a change, not be a permanent feature of a boxed form. Too much instability, and too much mass centered on the front foot limit options, and limit how you can do your shift.
Thank you so much for all you guys do💚
Thanks! We are learning rapier sword techniques for our movie.
Always nice to see a pappenheimer rapier and a good training instruction :)
My kind of sword. Good video as always.
It looks great. I'm definitely adding this up to my training schedule. Can we expect something similar for a sabre?
Kamil Szadkowski Thankfully the sabre manuals show this kind of thing.
Yeah, especially the thrusts and lunges...
@@kamilszadkowski8864 polska
That's a hell of a nice-looking rapier. Some many rapiers Ive seen are overly artsy and heavy. Nice sword
What a fantastic video. If I ever teach again I will be using this!
This is excellent! Can you make a version for longsword as well? I practice rapier much more often but dont know a whole lot about Longsword
We have a couple, go to our channel and search:
"Solo cutting patterns"
and "Solo Cutting Drills"
Also our two videos "How to throw a proper descending/ascending" cut would apply.
But we may make a more comprehensive video in the future. Thanks for the suggestion!
That's tremedoulsy helpful. Thanks.
Good video. I have done something similar with saber and small sword using a punching bag at the gym.
Magnifique
Love the videos thanks for the lessons.
Excellent video! Thank you! Would LOVE to see a bolognese sidesword video!
I like how you are not neglecting the usability of a Rapier to strike and cut. My impression is that many sparring partners from random schools on community events simply do not want to take care of having hand protection and some padding for Rapier and tell me "you don't cut with a Rapier, stop it"... By the way after hitting them of course. So I'd say it is effective. If one does not want to be hit a bit, he can go to sport fencing and use a Floret or similar. It's no offence, but in fact I'm a bit annoyed of all the thrust only guys
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Maybe an expandable sibling a good choice?
Great stuff!
These drills are great! Thanks for sharing them
i am really interested in historicalfencing i love it so much! im 32 now. f i wanted to start learning how to fence how far could i get on my own. the nearest club to me i believe is 50 some od miles from here and i have no transport. im also on a fixed income because of some mental issues i have. i think this would give me a new goal as well as some exercise. is it possible to start learning this on my own solo? i dont have anyone else around me that would be of use to learning i think
In a combination of thrust and cut, is the thrust a real attempt to hit the enemy or a feint?
Geat, wonderful
those feet gloves look great
Where can one get a thrusting target?
I just recently started usng the rapier, and the feel is so different from the nodachi, katana, tachi, the odachi, the naginata, the zweihander...its weird, i started with live practice against a sparring partner as I wish to learn helpful information to increase my odds of winning as practicing against a sparring partner at full intensity allows you not only to improve but learn from your mistakes and discover how to best fix them. have to say great video and could you direct me to where i can find a book or manuscript to enchance my studys of this art?
Just finding out about HEMA, have never seen it before--I am an old classic fencer. Did you start with fencing and move to HEMA or did you start with HEMA and does this sport have all the techniques associated with learning fencing skills or are many people just slashing about?
What are some good cheap rapiers that a beginner like me could use, I want to learn fencing but there's no school or anything near me so I can't use a loaner that a school would havr
Right now the ones we recommend are from HF armory. In our opinion these ones are the best value for a beginner rapier on the market. hf-armory.com/en/shop/weapon/rapiers/club-rapier-gdf/?alg_currency=USD
Isnt your left Hand very exposed when you keep it that far in the front?
ok... haven't picked up my rapier in a while. Tried this. It was fun but my arm didn't seem too happy afterwards. I'm not the strongest person but I'm not weak; I lift heavy stuff at work all the time. I've done longsword in the past never noticed this so I'm assuming it is from the sword being held at arm's length ...Any advice on how to strengthen my arm or should I just keep practicing until it feels normal?
Thank you ma'am
Thanks！
Can I translate this video and reproduce it on the chinese website？
I imagine these would be good for side sword as well?
This kid of thing has really helped. I assume these apply to most Italian systems?
What are they using on the tips of their rapiers?
i love rapier
Do you recommend practicing/drilling with each left- and right-handed?
Chaosism What we usually do at practice is once the right arm gets tired, switch to left until the legs get tired.
Realistically the arm gets tired before the legs so switching to the left is always good training in case you injure your right, and it allows for you to continue working on your legs.
Do both.
2nd Part, Seems like excessive wind up for a Rapier cut??? Is there a reason it is not advisable to keep the movement tighter perhaps just down to a turn of the wrist? If the damage is done mostly on the withdraw anyway why not just flick it onto target with a tighter movement?
AKlover because you still need speed, power and rotation behind the draw to power it.
The mechanics behind a draw cut and a hewing cut are the same until contact; where here you draw instead of arching the tip through the target. Neither will work efficiently without proper speed and rotation.
Not to mention the potential of injury of swinging around a heavy rapier with just your wrist.
where can i get a rapier?
Do a video on Indian Clubs for swordsmanship,
la postura de la pierna atrasada con el talón levantado es errónea.
Is there a reason the lunges are so short? I do Epee fencing and we have long fast lunges. I know the styles are very different but I’m just wondering
Tiny Tom Cruise If you miss or get parried, you'll be overextended so a very vulnerable target.
Otto Derrmann ah I see. It’s very different in Olympic fencing. Thanks!
I honestly think that Olympic fencing's footwork is vastly superior to anything you will see in renaissance manuals.
Louis Jolliet Why? They serve different purposes, so why would you think one was superior to the other?
@@ottoderrmann786 I do not believe that they serve vastly different purposes. There are very straight forward linear movements to get from A to B in the shortest amount of time.
Around the time when most rapier manuals were written, linear footwork as invented by the Italian school was just in its infancy.
300 years later we have sport fencing, which developped and perfected this linear framework, and weeded out the bad parts.
Obviously a rapier duel is not the same activity as sport fencing, but pretty much ALL the footwork concepts of épée sport fencing apply to rapier.
I see it as an evolution.
What about a romanian falx vs longsword video?
MrQuake find us a sparring safe one and we'll be able to try it out ;)
Классика. Круто
Master
Молодец, грамотно!
Is this the Red mage rotation from the game Final Fantasy XIV? Leaks for 5.0, my lovely girlfriend is looking for some. Please respond. Thank you, good video.
Why black feet?
Anyone in eastern Iowa?
My blood boils when I see people using Olympic sword and calling it "rapier". That's not a rapier at all.
I know those things are only good for hotdogs
Wait until you see swords in comics (Koreans are especially culpable here)…it hurts my soul. Horrible 3d models, training consisting of nothing more than oberhau incessantly, rapiers being used as longswords, “knight” orders that are usually only armored with some form of Pauldrons, which are useless anyway since every weapon works like a lightsaber. And that’s just the swords. Rarely do we see polearms, and firearms…I read one the other day where the gun was some horrid imitation of a flintlock pistol, and it was firing whole rounds. Not the bullet, the whole round.
Monkey see monkey do.... even if monkey has plastic toy lightsaber.
She plays RuneScape
How tf did I get here
Lol. Watch the drywall.
with due respect you are moving your arm above your head, for which opposite player can easily judge where you are thinking to hit, moving arm above or behind head also weakened defence and expose you for opposite player,
Awesome. Back to the regular programming, then?
Not that I dislike the other videos you’ve all uploaded recently, I’ve just really missed the drilling and sword talk.
Use your mask which works too.
I would like to sword fight with her I would loose but I want to anyway. I want the experience for trying my best and seeing the tecnecs work on the reserving end.
Your rear foot is not well placed. You must turn it to left if you dont want to get hurt. That position its valid in Messer, but not in rapier. You could ask to my master Ricardo Soto Caride
What a THICC HAND
Weiss Schnee anyone?
Targeting pad... 30 years ago we trained with a fender wash on a string, motionless at first, then swinging, the doubles and triples. Point control matters
And in the real world of dueling, letting your blade get behind you with such wide swings is slow & unnecessary.
I am all for flash and fancy being from the Hutton-Cavens tradition, but wielding a rapier (and footwork)like a cut and thrust weapon is a mistake.