Loved catching the train to Southport as a child in the 70s. The beautiful steep stone walls around the cutting, the prickly seats, the dust motes in the sunlight. . Wonderful times.
@Jamie10004 The only thing that creates a dump is sloppy parenting. I grew up around Salford, poverty yes but people kept their front steps clean and there was discipline in the children. That makes a huge difference in society.
@mrmeldrewstuntdouble Agree about the traffic jams. Bring on route 225 the oft mooted east to west by pass from the M58 at Orrell to the M61 at Wingates. My home town and i find it the most difficult in the North West to get into and out of. As for the railways well they are just a cash cow for the privateers.
Oh yes....I think there are a few who see the folly in all this....memories...yes folks...that's all that can be said for so called 'progress' today.Nice little video!
Everything kaprotfai said about wigan council is bang on,all there arsed about is backhanders and how to better themselves,they dont give a damn about the people off wigan or our heritage,it makes me sick tosee how there ruining OUR town.
Who votes for them year in year out? Stick a red rosette on a corpse and people would vote for them in Wigan. Then when only 25% turn out to vote adding insult to injury is it any wonder we don't get the best. Heck I really have seen the walking dead get elected who are clearly not going to do anything other than tow the council leadership line and nod along. The people are a joke, they'd rather focus on their entertainment and celebrating a weekend on King Street and ignore the reality because it is easier.
Town planners didn't change Wigan Wallgate - BR/Railtrack did. Those express train long platforms were no longer required post Beeching especially as passenger numbers declined through the 60's and 70's as services were withdrawn.. So why should they maintain the buildings? Do you think North Western always looked like it was built in the 60's? What do you think happened to it's buildings? Strange to try to blame the town planners ....
@stuartp1960 Why do English people sit around complaining instead of realizing YOU are the gvmnt, do it yourselves. Socialism doesn't work but the vacuum that it's demise created has to be filled by guess who? Step up and swing.
WTF has changing Wallgate Station got to do with town planners, the planning department didn't force the changes on the railways. Political posturing by claiming they did.
Loved catching the train to Southport as a child in the 70s. The beautiful steep stone walls around the cutting, the prickly seats, the dust motes in the sunlight. . Wonderful times.
@Jamie10004 The only thing that creates a dump is sloppy parenting.
I grew up around Salford, poverty yes but people kept their front steps clean and there was discipline in the children. That makes a huge difference in society.
Amen to that a thousand fold.
Loved seeing Parbold Bottle from the train. So glad I lived in Wigan then.
Very nice piece 👍
@mrmeldrewstuntdouble Agree about the traffic jams. Bring on route 225 the oft mooted east to west by pass from the M58 at Orrell to the M61 at Wingates. My home town and i find it the most difficult in the North West to get into and out of. As for the railways well they are just a cash cow for the privateers.
Oh yes....I think there are a few who see the folly in all this....memories...yes folks...that's all that can be said for so called 'progress' today.Nice little video!
Everything kaprotfai said about wigan council is bang on,all there arsed about is backhanders and how to better themselves,they dont give a damn about the people off wigan or our heritage,it makes me sick tosee how there ruining OUR town.
Who votes for them year in year out? Stick a red rosette on a corpse and people would vote for them in Wigan. Then when only 25% turn out to vote adding insult to injury is it any wonder we don't get the best. Heck I really have seen the walking dead get elected who are clearly not going to do anything other than tow the council leadership line and nod along. The people are a joke, they'd rather focus on their entertainment and celebrating a weekend on King Street and ignore the reality because it is easier.
Vote them out
Town planners didn't change Wigan Wallgate - BR/Railtrack did. Those express train long platforms were no longer required post Beeching especially as passenger numbers declined through the 60's and 70's as services were withdrawn.. So why should they maintain the buildings? Do you think North Western always looked like it was built in the 60's? What do you think happened to it's buildings?
Strange to try to blame the town planners ....
@Jamie10004 I agree with your observation but don't accept the conclusion that this is as good as its gonna get.
what a nice tune :)
clever... nice vid
good video
@stuartp1960 Why do English people sit around complaining instead of realizing YOU are the gvmnt, do it yourselves.
Socialism doesn't work but the vacuum that it's demise created has to be filled by guess who? Step up and swing.
WTF has changing Wallgate Station got to do with town planners, the planning department didn't force the changes on the railways. Political posturing by claiming they did.