During the premiere of this video I received a threat. I used to get threatened quite often but this was the first threat in a long time. The threat can be seen in the replay of the premiere but here is a cut and paste : Donald Trump1 (Pirates never die!!!) Crap stories u tell on Utube mate, @History on UA-cam u better watch ur back in future walking the streets...
@@HistoryonUA-cam we shouldn't accept threats whether in person or online. I work in criminal justice and can see the damage threatening behaviour causes on wellbeing etc. That said, this fellow making the threat is a pig ignorant lowlife who probably issues a shed load of threats daily from the safety of the keyboard and cloak of anonymity. Makes him feel like a man! He won't have the brains to understand the content of your videos Alan but he is able to feel offended by anyone addressing nazi mass murder
I watch all your videos Alan. I find them very informative and relevant to understanding the history of these events better. I have read many many books about WW2, so you do a good job with your commentary. You must be doing something right if the crazies don’t like it!
It is no problem Ben - I just laugh at them. In fact I am going to do a video on it, I just dictated it. I would rather he was threatening me that someone who might get frightened!
There's still debate on this, Browning argues for a pan-European plan date around mid-October 1941 based on notes from high ranking officials involved that have doubts about what to do in September but clearly become aware of the orders for murder in October (certain Polish Jews... this and the construction of Chelmno and Belzec were perhaps to be only for local murder at the time, perhaps due to food considerations)... there's however also a couple of other pieces of evidence such as shutting of all borders within their power for emigration including a proposition by the Spanish government to evacuate some Jews into Morocco, which was accepted until then... but then again if that was the case, and this was decided around this time of year, why would Goebbels only register this idea in his diary in December? ("prophecy" will be fulfilled...)
In that one picture of Pretzsch Germany you see a lone, bare, thorny looking tree in the middle of a field. The other trees in the background seem to have leaves on them and there is tall grass in the field. That's very strange. It's as if nature is saying something terrible happened here. What a terrible thing to have happened to those poor people.
I really liked that tree. I have video of it too before dawn and I stood there as the birds started singing for the dawn chorus in the morning. It was around 18 June 2023!
Hi Alan: I’ve been lurking and watching your videos for quite some time. They’re fascinating. I hope to someday visit those places as they’re an intense study of mine. I feel it’s really important history. I’ve seen some of your older material on Sobibor. Will you be doing any new visits to that location?
I have not been to Sobibór since 14 October 2013, I used to go all the time, perhaps for obviious reasons. Marek Bem, who used to run the place, died last year. However I will try to return this spring or summer, depending on other obligations!
@ I definitely want to go to all of these places. One of my best friends is Jewish and while he’s American born and raised, he and I have discussed this and is interested as well. He has traced family heritage to deaths at Treblinka, so that would make it even more poignant. On a personal level, I became interested in this history about a decade or so ago and have reached a level where my previously mentioned friend is blown away by what I’ve learned. I’m sort of the go-to now for information among family and friends. I’ve also developed a keen antisemitism radar and can spot those guys coming from a mile away. It disgusts me to no end.
One other question: Railways and the Shoah. I don’t know why but that part of the history sort of gives me the chills. What is the status of the various lines that served these camps? I know Treblinka is no more as you showed, Auschwitz is disconnected. Belzec is still active, correct? What about Sobibor? I saw they restored the station very recently, but does the rail line still see any use? I’ve been under the impression it does but for freight only, but you would know better than I.
Thanks Alan. About a year or so ago I read a huge tome biography on Odilo Globocnik called 'The Devil's Accomplice' by Max Williams published around 2020 so pretty recent. The book offers minutiae on his life and is packed with a lot of apparently not published previously photographs. I wouldn't recommend the book because it's descriptive and not remotely analytical of this corrupt to the core vile individual. I think the author is a self educated military historian and clearly not overly familiar with the holocaust. The book lacks a moral compass. It delves into the Globocnik sex life and the mundane circumstances of his unsavoury life but only describes things with a total absence of analysis. I've found this overly descriptive element in the few books I've read by Irving who I know you have interviewed which I found very interesting. I'd like to read a good biography of Otto Ohlendorf who intrigues me as an example of the highly educated careerist morally bankrupt Einszasgruppen leaders
I have never heard of the Max Williams book, on Globocnik the reference for me is Poprzeczny's 2004 work. I thought of doing a series on Ohlendorf but if I ever do anything on the Einsatzgruppe leaders he will be the last as he is so complicated. Benjamin Ferencz talked a great deal about him. To me he seems quite brilliant as an economist, I might not agree with his opinions on this subject, but I have the benefit of 80 years of history that he didnot have. So how can we explain his absurd anti Semitism and belief in conspiracies? I knew David Irving very well, I spent a great deal of time with him. I stayed at his place many times and he visited me too.
@@HistoryonUA-cam thanks for recommending. Yes! Benjamin Ferencz did share a lot on Ohlendorf. Some spooky comments demonstrating how cold he really was. If I can find that commentary, I'll share. (RIP Benjamin Ferencz) Do you have any content related to David Irving, Alan?
I was thinking of getting this volume as there isn't much in English on Globocnik and he's one of the primary perpetrators. It's plausible that the idea to move to gas was his. On his own initiative he discussed the possibilities with Wirth and made a proposal to Himmler. Hitler just approved the ideas of others. He didn't have to argue and persuade officials.
I own a seniour nazi's tunic. Brigadefuhrer Hans Kelz of the ss main office Berlin. He earned the Golden partei abziechen before 1938 and the IK 2 in Poland 1939 then later the IK 1 and promotion from oberfuhrer to brigadefuhrer at the height of the ss's genocidal activities at Chelmno, Poznan of which he was an integral player. They say there are no records of what became of him at wars end but the tunic has a substantial amount of congealed blood in the right armpit & the tunic has a Russian capture stamp. I propose that Hans Kelz shot himself in the right temple upon facing capture by the Red army. He must have destroyed as many records of what he did personally as he could. He was head of the personnel department. His signature sometimes crops up on documents pertaining to the mundane. But he kept out of the limelight and was able to obfuscate almost all records pertaining to himself. The tunic is an earth grey heavy wool, shortened rock design with fancy Allgemeine general ss insignia. I suppose in the not too distant future I.D.F. regalia will be squirrelled away pieces of forbidden history in the same league as the ss regalia.
You appear to know more than I do about Kelz. I know he headed a Selbschutz formation in Poznań in 1939, I never heard of him having anything to do with Chełmno. There is a file on him in the Bundesarchiv but not in digital form.
@@HistoryonUA-cam I'd very much like to read that. I wonder if they have a photograph of him at the Bundesarchiv. He was awarded the IK1 and promotion for something he accepted responsibility for something that his direct subordinates achieved. I'd really like to know more about his wartime activities actually in the area of Reichsgau Wartheland . He must've been as active as his contemporaries Greiser, Kopp or anyone else at the hub of it all.
I wonder if the illness Hitler experienced in August 1941 had any bearing on his decisions in this regard. I know it was speculated that one of he causes of his illness was a realisation that the war in the east was possibly fatally overstretched even at this early date.
OSR No 17 According to the instructions by RSHA, liquidations of government and party officials, in all named cities of Byelorussia, were carried out. Concerning the Jews, according to orders, the same policy was adopted.
A complement of info on the Wannsee Conference. It was held on January 20th, 1942, but it was originally planned on December 9th, 1941, and the invitations were sent on November 29th, 1941. So it was planned before the attack on Pearl Harbor and before the Wehrmacht was stopped in front of Moscow. I think Hitler was originally content with expelling the Jews from German held territory. He considered the Jews as a poison ('bacillus") in a society. Expelling the Jews would mean that Germany would be free of poison, while the other countries would be poisonned. A Win-Win situation. With the millions of Jews encountered with the invasion of Poland and especially later with the difficulties encountered with Barbarossa, industrial-scale murder was seen as the 'only' solution.
@@HistoryonUA-cam I had watched you video on the Wannsee Conference before! A few comments. The words 'Vernichtung' and 'Ausrottung' were 'buzz words' since the early 1920s in Germany and were used by all groups of the extreme right and extreme left. One cannot equate those words to a program of wholesale murder. The January 30th 1939 speech mentioned the "annihilation of the Jewish race in EUROPE". IMO Hitler, at the time, would have been happy with a Jew-free Europe and a Jew-infested rest of the World (Win-Win). That changed when Hitler 'realised' that "Jews could poison other countries AGAINST Germany". That idea may have come in the fall of 1941, when the Soviet Union didn't collapse as expected and the allies started supplying Stalin to fight the Germans. That's when mass murder became a serious and viable option under the cover of the war.
Vert good. Thanks. The Einsatzgruppen operational situational report No 17 reported that 54 Jews were liquidated on July 4, and 93 were liquidated on July 5 in Vilnius. So things would be well underway in Poland.
Wonderful introduction and informative historical coverage video about early times of Jewish ✡️ Holocaust. Video shared by an amazing ( history on UA-cam) introduced by Sir Alan 🙏
HA!, I see where the magat was triggered. They are easy to work up, ain't they. Thank you for keeping history and the memories of the victims alive. It's most important. Cheers
Raymond this is a problem I have addressed before and I changed my mind. As far as Heide is concerned then I think it has to be translated. More difficult are words like Burgerbrau which in early videos I said as it is usually said in English {Burger brow] whereas now I say it as it is in German [Burger broy]. Unfortunately as I am speaking English during the video, I can say words as I said them before I knew any German and this happens quite frequently meaning I had to redo the whole narration for the video about Remer and 20 July1944.
The letter from Hermann Goering to Reinhard Heydrich of July 31, 1941 referred solely to Emigration and Evacuation. I cannot see how Emigration is a euphemism for killing. You seem to be a Communist and/or a Zionist.. You are not doing videos on Communist crimes or Israeli crimes. Do not disappoint me by not responding in anger. By the way, I have not threatened you.
@@Kepler186f-rt3ft So your question is : Why did anyone that's ever claimed it happened lie about shrunken heads, lampshades, and human soap etc... ??? Am I correct?
@HistoryonUA-cam do a video on the lies and propaganda to clear things up. So ppl will take the truth Seriously and not bring up all the blatant lies and WW2 propaganda
During the premiere of this video I received a threat. I used to get threatened quite often but this was the first threat in a long time. The threat can be seen in the replay of the premiere but here is a cut and paste :
Donald Trump1 (Pirates never die!!!)
Crap stories u tell on Utube mate, @History on UA-cam u better watch ur back in future walking the streets...
@@HistoryonUA-cam we shouldn't accept threats whether in person or online. I work in criminal justice and can see the damage threatening behaviour causes on wellbeing etc. That said, this fellow making the threat is a pig ignorant lowlife who probably issues a shed load of threats daily from the safety of the keyboard and cloak of anonymity. Makes him feel like a man! He won't have the brains to understand the content of your videos Alan but he is able to feel offended by anyone addressing nazi mass murder
Oy vey
Disgusting and stupid.
I watch all your videos Alan. I find them very informative and relevant to understanding the history of these events better. I have read many many books about WW2, so you do a good job with your commentary. You must be doing something right if the crazies don’t like it!
Bravery to you Alan. Perhaps consider reporting the account in question to Amazon in an effort to curtail such behavior.
Can't believe the threat(s), Alan. Sorry about this.
It is no problem Ben - I just laugh at them. In fact I am going to do a video on it, I just dictated it. I would rather he was threatening me that someone who might get frightened!
Brilliant informed video again, thanks !
No problem 👍 Thanks for watching!
Horrible evil place, hell on earth. Run by horrible, evil people.
There's still debate on this, Browning argues for a pan-European plan date around mid-October 1941 based on notes from high ranking officials involved that have doubts about what to do in September but clearly become aware of the orders for murder in October (certain Polish Jews... this and the construction of Chelmno and Belzec were perhaps to be only for local murder at the time, perhaps due to food considerations)... there's however also a couple of other pieces of evidence such as shutting of all borders within their power for emigration including a proposition by the Spanish government to evacuate some Jews into Morocco, which was accepted until then... but then again if that was the case, and this was decided around this time of year, why would Goebbels only register this idea in his diary in December? ("prophecy" will be fulfilled...)
I think Hitler wanted to do it before, it was only after Pearl Harbor that he realised he could kill all the Jews.
Great video! Spot on
In that one picture of Pretzsch Germany you see a lone, bare, thorny looking tree in the middle of a field. The other trees in the background seem to have leaves on them and there is tall grass in the field. That's very strange. It's as if nature is saying something terrible happened here. What a terrible thing to have happened to those poor people.
I really liked that tree. I have video of it too before dawn and I stood there as the birds started singing for the dawn chorus in the morning. It was around 18 June 2023!
Hi Alan:
I’ve been lurking and watching your videos for quite some time. They’re fascinating. I hope to someday visit those places as they’re an intense study of mine. I feel it’s really important history.
I’ve seen some of your older material on Sobibor. Will you be doing any new visits to that location?
I have not been to Sobibór since 14 October 2013, I used to go all the time, perhaps for obviious reasons. Marek Bem, who used to run the place, died last year. However I will try to return this spring or summer, depending on other obligations!
@ I definitely want to go to all of these places. One of my best friends is Jewish and while he’s American born and raised, he and I have discussed this and is interested as well. He has traced family heritage to deaths at Treblinka, so that would make it even more poignant. On a personal level, I became interested in this history about a decade or so ago and have reached a level where my previously mentioned friend is blown away by what I’ve learned. I’m sort of the go-to now for information among family and friends. I’ve also developed a keen antisemitism radar and can spot those guys coming from a mile away. It disgusts me to no end.
One other question: Railways and the Shoah. I don’t know why but that part of the history sort of gives me the chills. What is the status of the various lines that served these camps? I know Treblinka is no more as you showed, Auschwitz is disconnected. Belzec is still active, correct? What about Sobibor? I saw they restored the station very recently, but does the rail line still see any use? I’ve been under the impression it does but for freight only, but you would know better than I.
@@johnrobert2510 Oświecim station is open to passengers, the others are not.
thank you for the video Alan
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Alan. About a year or so ago I read a huge tome biography on Odilo Globocnik called 'The Devil's Accomplice' by Max Williams published around 2020 so pretty recent. The book offers minutiae on his life and is packed with a lot of apparently not published previously photographs. I wouldn't recommend the book because it's descriptive and not remotely analytical of this corrupt to the core vile individual. I think the author is a self educated military historian and clearly not overly familiar with the holocaust. The book lacks a moral compass. It delves into the Globocnik sex life and the mundane circumstances of his unsavoury life but only describes things with a total absence of analysis. I've found this overly descriptive element in the few books I've read by Irving who I know you have interviewed which I found very interesting.
I'd like to read a good biography of Otto Ohlendorf who intrigues me as an example of the highly educated careerist morally bankrupt Einszasgruppen leaders
I have never heard of the Max Williams book, on Globocnik the reference for me is Poprzeczny's 2004 work. I thought of doing a series on Ohlendorf but if I ever do anything on the Einsatzgruppe leaders he will be the last as he is so complicated. Benjamin Ferencz talked a great deal about him. To me he seems quite brilliant as an economist, I might not agree with his opinions on this subject, but I have the benefit of 80 years of history that he didnot have. So how can we explain his absurd anti Semitism and belief in conspiracies?
I knew David Irving very well, I spent a great deal of time with him. I stayed at his place many times and he visited me too.
@@HistoryonUA-cam thanks for recommending. Yes! Benjamin Ferencz did share a lot on Ohlendorf. Some spooky comments demonstrating how cold he really was. If I can find that commentary, I'll share. (RIP Benjamin Ferencz)
Do you have any content related to David Irving, Alan?
I was thinking of getting this volume as there isn't much in English on Globocnik and he's one of the primary perpetrators. It's plausible that the idea to move to gas was his. On his own initiative he discussed the possibilities with Wirth and made a proposal to Himmler. Hitler just approved the ideas of others. He didn't have to argue and persuade officials.
@@yesbutno3422 I don't know of course but if I were to hazard a guess, I would say that the idea came from Victor Brack.
@@yesbutno3422 same here
I own a seniour nazi's tunic. Brigadefuhrer Hans Kelz of the ss main office Berlin. He earned the Golden partei abziechen before 1938 and the IK 2 in Poland 1939 then later the IK 1 and promotion from oberfuhrer to brigadefuhrer at the height of the ss's genocidal activities at Chelmno, Poznan of which he was an integral player.
They say there are no records of what became of him at wars end but the tunic has a substantial amount of congealed blood in the right armpit & the tunic has a Russian capture stamp.
I propose that Hans Kelz shot himself in the right temple upon facing capture by the Red army. He must have destroyed as many records of what he did personally as he could. He was head of the personnel department. His signature sometimes crops up on documents pertaining to the mundane.
But he kept out of the limelight and was able to obfuscate almost all records pertaining to himself.
The tunic is an earth grey heavy wool, shortened rock design with fancy Allgemeine general ss insignia.
I suppose in the not too distant future I.D.F. regalia will be squirrelled away pieces of forbidden history in the same league as the ss regalia.
You appear to know more than I do about Kelz. I know he headed a Selbschutz formation in Poznań in 1939, I never heard of him having anything to do with Chełmno. There is a file on him in the Bundesarchiv but not in digital form.
@@HistoryonUA-cam I'd very much like to read that. I wonder if they have a photograph of him at the Bundesarchiv. He was awarded the IK1 and promotion for something he accepted responsibility for something that his direct subordinates achieved. I'd really like to know more about his wartime activities actually in the area of Reichsgau Wartheland . He must've been as active as his contemporaries Greiser, Kopp or anyone else at the hub of it all.
I wonder if the illness Hitler experienced in August 1941 had any bearing on his decisions in this regard. I know it was speculated that one of he causes of his illness was a realisation that the war in the east was possibly fatally overstretched even at this early date.
OSR No 17 According to the instructions by RSHA, liquidations of government and party officials, in all named cities of Byelorussia, were carried out. Concerning the Jews, according to orders, the same policy was adopted.
A complement of info on the Wannsee Conference. It was held on January 20th, 1942, but it was originally planned on December 9th, 1941, and the invitations were sent on November 29th, 1941. So it was planned before the attack on Pearl Harbor and before the Wehrmacht was stopped in front of Moscow.
I think Hitler was originally content with expelling the Jews from German held territory. He considered the Jews as a poison ('bacillus") in a society. Expelling the Jews would mean that Germany would be free of poison, while the other countries would be poisonned. A Win-Win situation.
With the millions of Jews encountered with the invasion of Poland and especially later with the difficulties encountered with Barbarossa, industrial-scale murder was seen as the 'only' solution.
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@@HistoryonUA-cam I had watched you video on the Wannsee Conference before!
A few comments. The words 'Vernichtung' and 'Ausrottung' were 'buzz words' since the early 1920s in Germany and were used by all groups of the extreme right and extreme left. One cannot equate those words to a program of wholesale murder.
The January 30th 1939 speech mentioned the "annihilation of the Jewish
race in EUROPE". IMO Hitler, at the time, would have been happy with a Jew-free Europe and a Jew-infested rest of the World (Win-Win). That changed when Hitler 'realised' that "Jews could poison other countries AGAINST Germany". That idea may have come in the fall of 1941, when the Soviet Union didn't collapse as expected and the allies started supplying Stalin to fight the Germans. That's when mass murder became a serious and viable option under the cover of the war.
Vert good. Thanks. The Einsatzgruppen operational situational report No 17 reported that 54 Jews were liquidated on July 4, and 93 were liquidated on July 5 in Vilnius. So things would be well underway in Poland.
It was always in his head.
Wonderful introduction and informative historical coverage video about early times of Jewish ✡️ Holocaust. Video shared by an amazing ( history on UA-cam) introduced by Sir Alan 🙏
Thanks Mohammed.
HA!, I see where the magat was triggered. They are easy to work up, ain't they. Thank you for keeping history and the memories of the victims alive. It's most important. Cheers
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Good one
Thank you! Cheers!
There was a specific date? I wonder what the reason was
I think I answered that one at the end!
@ That you most definitely did, my comment was made at the beginning.
Dübener Heide is pronounced Hi-deh. All letters are pronounced in German.
Also:
ei = i
ie = e
ee = a
s = z
z = ts
th = t
Love your videos.
Cheers
Raymond this is a problem I have addressed before and I changed my mind. As far as Heide is concerned then I think it has to be translated. More difficult are words like Burgerbrau which in early videos I said as it is usually said in English {Burger brow] whereas now I say it as it is in German [Burger broy]. Unfortunately as I am speaking English during the video, I can say words as I said them before I knew any German and this happens quite frequently meaning I had to redo the whole narration for the video about Remer and 20 July1944.
The letter from Hermann Goering to Reinhard Heydrich of July 31, 1941 referred solely to Emigration and Evacuation. I cannot see how Emigration is a euphemism for killing. You seem to be a Communist and/or a Zionist.. You are not doing videos on Communist crimes or Israeli crimes. Do not disappoint me by not responding in anger. By the way, I have not threatened you.
just more one sided bs propaganda
@@ClovisPoint Of course
Obviously you could have looked at the videos I have done but you did not bother even doing that. I did not accuse you of threatening me.
@@HistoryonUA-cam I did not bother, because it is only propaganda and it wsstes my time.
@@stephenchallen1385 Of course you did not bother. Facts do not interest you.
Why did they lie about shrunken heads, lampshades, and human soap etc... ???
Who is 'they'?
@HistoryonUA-cam anyone that's ever claimed it happened.....
@@Kepler186f-rt3ft So your question is : Why did anyone that's ever claimed it happened lie about shrunken heads, lampshades, and human soap etc... ??? Am I correct?
@HistoryonUA-cam yes. And why do they still lie about it
@HistoryonUA-cam do a video on the lies and propaganda to clear things up. So ppl will take the truth Seriously and not bring up all the blatant lies and WW2 propaganda
This has all been said before. Just repeating it over and over.
By whom?
bs
But you cannot name one single error in this video, can you? The bs is therefore coming from you.
No Proof.
of what?