Morph 4K Review for Analog Sources! Doubling Up Scalers To See What Happens

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  • Опубліковано 1 гру 2024

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  • @beingsupersonic7499
    @beingsupersonic7499 5 місяців тому +1

    VF2 looks amazing. Love Bubble Symphony✌🏻Shame Bubble Memories didn’t get a stand alone console release outside of the Taito packs

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому

      It did get a stand-alone release. A very weird one. Korean exclusive PC version. Check the channel. I did an unboxing and dumped it for people :)

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому

      Here it is : Bubble Memories Rare Korean PC Exclusive Disc Dumped! Taito's Awesome Arcade Bubble Bubble Sequel!
      ua-cam.com/video/--1VAxxufII/v-deo.html

    • @beingsupersonic7499
      @beingsupersonic7499 5 місяців тому

      @@VideoGameEsoterica Ahhh, you know what, I think I may have watched your video, albeit a while ago😂🤦🏻‍♂️But I will go back and check it either way!

    • @beingsupersonic7499
      @beingsupersonic7499 5 місяців тому

      @@VideoGameEsoterica Ah brilliant cheers👍🏻Next on the list🤘🏻

  • @TheRealGara
    @TheRealGara 5 місяців тому +2

    Sounds like a royal pain just to avoid selling the old video processor. It's so weird how hard they pushed this like it's desirable to be chaining video processors. I'm hopeful the Morph can one day distinguish itself, but it seems a long ways off. I just want it to kick butt at something rather than trying to save me a few bucks.
    Oh it'll be good once you own multiple retro gem hdmi mods, an analog bridge, an infinity switch, and after a year or two of firmware updates! Plus you can use your cellphone instead of a remote controller. 😅

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому +1

      It’s just a fun thing you can do

    • @IronManDS
      @IronManDS 2 місяці тому

      ​@@VideoGameEsoterica: True. But, that was a pretty damn funny comment he made!

  • @PopeTheRevXXVIII
    @PopeTheRevXXVIII 5 місяців тому +2

    I remember when there were only 2 Choices the Framemiester and the dvdo family.
    This was before even the ossc.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому

      The old days

    • @PopeTheRevXXVIII
      @PopeTheRevXXVIII 5 місяців тому

      I got out bid last possible second on a DVDO scaler back in 2017. I got a Framemiester still have it boxed except for the RGB adapter, it's pins are bent.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому

      @PopeTheRevXXVIII how’d you manage that?

    • @PopeTheRevXXVIII
      @PopeTheRevXXVIII 5 місяців тому

      The Retro Access cable I had was heavy and pulled the adapter down so it was always at an awkward angle I tried to adjust it and the pins just folded.
      The Remote was cheaply made too, if you've never dropped it to find out why you're lucky.
      The Tink 5x was a perfect upgrade.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому

      Ahh I see

  • @michaels9917
    @michaels9917 5 місяців тому

    $500 WITH the analogue bridge seems to be an excellent value. Waiting until then also has the added benefit of allowing the firmware to mature a bit.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому

      I’ll review the analog bridge once it’s available

  • @simon41978
    @simon41978 5 місяців тому

    You're braver than me. I linked my Dreamcast to my OSSC and then to my Tink4K which killed the console. That's why I had to get it repaired recently. I still don't know what happened. The tech guy doesn't know either. There was no resistor in place to compensate for the lack of a GD-Rom Drive is his best guess.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому +4

      I think that’s wholly a coincidence honestly. Nothing logically would cause harm in that situation

    • @simon41978
      @simon41978 5 місяців тому

      @@VideoGameEsoterica
      Yes, that's what I told myself when connecting everything. The Dreamcast is fixed now.

  • @G23G_
    @G23G_ 5 місяців тому +2

    Just a heads up, I think your settings are incorrect for scanline generation. It's basically creating too many scanlines. Right now, the Morph is generating the scanlines based on a 720p image instead of a 240p, which is causing multiple scanlines to run through each pixel. As you can see at the bottom of the Morph's OSD, it is viewing the image as 1280x720, which is why it is generating scanlines that way. To fix this, you need to do a vertical prescale of /3, which will then result in the Morph handling that image as 240p (the bottom of the OSD will list it as 1280x240). Once you do that, each 240p pixel row will have a single scanline separating them instead of having multiple scanlines running through each pixel row.

    • @G23G_
      @G23G_ 5 місяців тому +1

      Alright, here's a visual example of what I was saying with this now that I had some time to sit down and do it.
      ua-cam.com/video/dKhJrT_h1cY/v-deo.html
      You do you, of course, but this is how 240p scanlines are supposed to look with the Morph 4k.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому

      That’s just because Framemeister doesn’t do passthrough mode

    • @G23G_
      @G23G_ 5 місяців тому +1

      @@VideoGameEsoterica Correct. So in order to get proper scanlines for 240p content on the Morph side of things, you need to prescale that 720p from the Framemeister down to 240p, otherwise you have 3x as many scanlines as you're supposed to.

    • @VideogameBucko
      @VideogameBucko 5 місяців тому +1

      @@G23G_ Thanks for the video, you're absolutely right you should be using a /3 prescale with 720p or a /2 prescale with 480p to get the scanlines to look authentic. The 720p scanlines are still okay if you want to emulate the look of a VGA monitor or something.

    • @G23G_
      @G23G_ 5 місяців тому +1

      @@VideogameBucko Absolutely, that's a great point. And ultimately it doesn't matter if one person likes the way something looks and another person finds it wonky. People like what they like.
      That said, it's definitely worth pointing out here just because this is labeled as a review of a product. Someone could easily see this presentation of scanlines and start jumping to inaccurate conclusions.

  • @mbe102
    @mbe102 5 місяців тому

    Wonder if... the GBSC-AIO would do well as the first part of the chain?
    Also, are you planning on doing any Morph 4K with MiSTer cores videos? I'd definitely be interested to see how that goes!!!

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому

      I have one made just need to show it

    • @brandogg
      @brandogg 5 місяців тому

      Yeah I'd love to see this too. I think until the analog bridge comes this could be the best combination

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому

      Next thurs :)

  • @PurpleMaleFroslass
    @PurpleMaleFroslass 5 місяців тому

    That settles it, I'm going to get a Morph 4K after my summer vacation 😂

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому

      Vacation eh?

    • @PurpleMaleFroslass
      @PurpleMaleFroslass 5 місяців тому

      Road trip to visit my BFF, they have a microcenter near them and I have parts to buy among other trip expenses. Taking the MiSTer with me, though 🤣

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому +1

      Micro center is a fun place!

    • @PurpleMaleFroslass
      @PurpleMaleFroslass 5 місяців тому

      Totally! I wish the nearest one to me wasn't two states away. At least it's a chance for me to teach their computer-loving son a few things.

  • @rossgirdeen3247
    @rossgirdeen3247 Місяць тому

    Has anyone ran morph 4k and retro tink 5x is it possible to use the analog ports on the tink to upscale on the morph 4k hopefully im being clear.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  Місяць тому

      Yes you can use the 5X as an analog bridge into the Morph 4K to get to a final 4K scale

    • @rossgirdeen3247
      @rossgirdeen3247 Місяць тому

      @@VideoGameEsoterica I already have the tink 5x cool

  • @dorfus
    @dorfus 5 місяців тому

    We have discussed this, it’s pronounced “Frame Moisture.”

  • @systemshocker2875
    @systemshocker2875 4 місяці тому

    3:24 Then how come it's playing the US theme for the game?

  • @METR0lD
    @METR0lD 5 місяців тому

    A frankenstein of scalers!

  • @drdroop2163
    @drdroop2163 5 місяців тому +4

    I don't know. I can't see any reason to do this. Sell the Framemeister and buy a RetroTink 4k. The development of the RT4k is going at a blistering pace compared to the Morph. I just don't see the market for the Morph or why anyone would ever get it over the RT4k. Maybe if someone has all of their consoles setup with a retro gem already?

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому

      I have that too

    • @VideogameBucko
      @VideogameBucko 5 місяців тому +2

      RT4k is easily the best at the moment but Morph has a lot of advantages over the RT4k not just a better price. Web interface, Wifi control, over the air updates, GameID, CEC compatibility, expansion ports, USB for controlling external switches. Assuming the software side continues to catch up then Morph is going to be a better choice in some setups for sure, depending on what you need.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому +2

      Morph has some nice QOL features and will be interesting to test once the analog bridge is available

    • @Red_Panduh
      @Red_Panduh 5 місяців тому +2

      The RT4K after shipping and taxes double the cost of the morph even at $500 with an analog bridge.

    • @PapiFed
      @PapiFed 5 місяців тому +1

      MiSTer + Morph4K 💪🏻

  • @pepsicolazero
    @pepsicolazero 5 місяців тому

    Hey video game eso I don’t know if you remember me but a couple weeks back I said to you Michael Jackson moonwalker is the best arcade game and you disagree ,well it looks like Jotego is working on it right now , this is the last arcade game I been waiting for and X-men

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому

      Haha I still disagree. It’s fun but def not the best

  • @keaton718
    @keaton718 5 місяців тому

    Better than Retortink 4k?

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому +1

      Different. RetroTink 4K is a more comprehensive product currently

    • @keaton718
      @keaton718 5 місяців тому

      @@VideoGameEsoterica ah, I can’t afford either anyway. But it’s nice to want things and imagine owning them.

  • @Charlie-Cat.
    @Charlie-Cat. 5 місяців тому

    $500 bucks?! Sounds like a steal to me VGE. 8^)
    Anthony..

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому

      It’ll be fun to review the analog bridge when it’s out

  • @SkullyETC
    @SkullyETC 5 місяців тому +1

    Esooooterica

  • @Benny_Shill
    @Benny_Shill 5 місяців тому

    I'm waiting for AI upscaling to 8k. It will recreate the game on the fly in 8k. Looking forward to playing retro SNK games that look modern put have that great gameplay and feel.

  • @linkzz00
    @linkzz00 5 місяців тому

    Morph is looking more and more like an N64 + DD - I think it could be good but should have been designed as a retro scaler in the first place.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому

      It’s a diff business model for sure

    • @Red_Panduh
      @Red_Panduh 5 місяців тому

      It is designed to be a retro scaler first. The analog add on was supposed to be out with it but was delayed due to manufacturing

    • @linkzz00
      @linkzz00 5 місяців тому

      @@Red_Panduh imo it is a rushed and incomplete product to attempt to gain some sales from the rt4k. It doesn’t have any retro benefits at all yet.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  5 місяців тому

      It has retro benefits for any hdmi modded console. It’s not complete doom and gloom and that’s coming from something with a Tink 4K as well

    • @linkzz00
      @linkzz00 5 місяців тому

      @@VideoGameEsoterica Perhaps, but for them to say it’s a retro scaler and only have hdmi in when all “retro” consoles are composite, component, s-video or scart…
      IMO they should have just waited the year and released a full product - both scaler camps have their fan boys but if the Morph brings features above and beyond competition they will rise to the top.
      That’s besides the point though - it’s here and sold and now… “we wait”

  • @Ragesauce
    @Ragesauce 5 місяців тому

    FIRST!