I personally think mike is leaning more on the gay side of things because of a few reasons such as symbolism of him not being interested in girls at all, examples being: getting annoyed about the others liking max as if he's annoyed at himself for not being able to like girls, pulling a disgusted face when dustin talks about Phoebe Cates being hot, a scene in season 4 where the lighting is specifically altered to look like mike has the gay flag on him (not a rainbow, the actual blue and green one) and a few other things (I've watched way too many mike wheeler analysis videos XD) and I know these are small things but I feel like it just makes sense idk But, this being said, I 100% respect bi mike, in fact I'm sorta bi/pan myself so I definitely respect it! And I agree that it would probably be best if the writers had mike unlabeled so that it was just up to audience interpretation Anyway those are just my thoughts haha
I think Mike is gay but I’d be ALL IN for bisexual Mike. I’m bisexual myself and I see a lot of myself in him. Unlabeled would also be awesome, like Wille from Young Royals
Unlabeled is also the most likely possibility if Byler is canon. Because I highly doubt Mike would even know of the word bisexual and also bisexuality wasn't really seen as legitimate within LGBT spaces until the 90s.Also there's so few bisexual male characters in media it's a legit problem. And I don't think they'd make him fully gay either. They could and I'd be all in for it
I must've been hanging out on the peaceful side of Tumblr, 'cause I had *no idea* the bi vs. gay thing got so crazy! Like, "DO NOT interact if you are a SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FLAVOUR of my OWN OPINION!!!" That's really funny. Interestingly enough, I've been on both sides of it. I personally thought he was bi at first, since he dated Eleven and seemed to like her. Once I went back and rewatched everything, that's when I thought, "Oh, maybe he *is* gay!" Mike seems so confused and unsure about himself around El. Plus, they don't click together the way their friends do in their own relationships. Dustin and Susie have their little songs and nicknames, Max and Lucas break up a lot but still spend quality time together, whereas Mike and El... write letters, maybe? Eh. That being said, if Mike is bi or is completely unlabelled, I would get it. The writers kept things ambiguous enough that it could go any which way- hey, maybe that was the point. Also, sweet posters and lights.
thank you!! also, i completely agree. i definitely fluctuate between opinions too, i think every side of the argument has good points. it's interesting how you bring up how mike & el don't really have that chemistry that the other couples in the show have! definitely something i have to think about
i dont rlly think it matters that much bc we all know Michael Wheeler is a boyliker and boykisser (fingers crossed for st5) completely agree that him being bi doesnt erase his queerness, but he also doesnt HAVE to be bi bc he dated/kissed El ykyk (loved the video btw im a new subscriber :) )
I personally love the unlabeled Mike headcanon. I don't really see him as someone who would care about labeling himself. All he knows is that he wants to kiss Will and thats all he really cares about knowing. Figuring out whether he just like dudes or likes both dudes and gals isn't important to him. He's just a Will kisser 👨❤️💋👨
Throughout this whole video I’ve been nodding in agreement; I don’t mind as long as Mike likes Will back, and I think the whole vs thing is so unnecessary. Great video, cant wait for the next !!💗
i think hes leaning to the gay side, as sometimes when he looks at will he looks like so in love and with el and any other girl he dosent. and if you notice in season 2 when they're in the snowball dustin is looking at max and mike could be looking at will also dustin and mike were looking at them a bit like gutted ig?? idk how to explain it anyways ollie, ur really funny and i love your channel!
Random but... your room is so cool!!! Anyway, I personally think Mike is bi because the arguments for him not being attracted to El never convinced me in the first place, there are certainly pieces of "evidence" that could point to Mike being gay too though so I'm always keeping that option in mind. I'll love him either way and as long as he's ending up with Will I'm okay with anything... I just need them to be happy in the finale!!!
It really doesn't matter if Mike is gay or bi, I mean- he DID love El in the past but their relationship didn't work out much, plus alot of people really think they are working their problems out in season 4. But who is really trying to help them? Will is, All for his heart to stay broken and never be fixed-but also yes, Mike does WANT to kiss Will I'm pretty sure by how much lip stares and other stares he gave Will in season 4 proofs it. Plus I think he's bi, some people thinks he gay like Will also, But yes just because he might be gay in season 5, doesn't mean for the people who thought he's bi be bi-homophobic cause that just doesn't make sense at all. Plus! Can you imagine if Mike and Will kiss at the end of season 5!? How would you react to that!😮
& the part about mike loving el previously is completely valid!! honestly, when i really think about it, it seems more likely that el didn’t like mike back because she barely had met him in s1 & all that. but yeah!!! i can’t believe people still think that. mileven conflict was resolved in s4 &. if they kiss. i might explode
I am personally a gay truther, but I respect bi truthers and think bi mike slays also but it doesn’t matter tbh, because either way he’s deeply inlove with will and (in my opinion) will fell first, mike fell harder but yeah that’s it lol I’m out of things to say
u know, as for assumptions on mike’s identity, I was firstly more a bi-mike believer, but that was before watching tons of byler analysis videos 😂 now i think abt him mostly as gay - and yeah I guess I would like the idea of him being gay all the time that totally erase his attraction to el (🙈 sorry mileven if u’r here) as their relationship mostly made me confused and seemed forced all the way through however, I agree that biness aside has nothing to do with him not being attracted to el personally and yeah, Im bi myself lol so thats not like biphobic staff on my side 😅 not being regarded to el, personally Im totally fine with all variants for mike because like u said - mike wants to kiss will, thats all that matters 💕 and my another point is: watching you now I came up with a thought that Mike being unlabelled can be a good take for creating relatability for both gays and bis, in that way this seems pretty fine idea for audience being able to associate themselves with this character and that is just cool 🙌🏻 (I guess now i wanna share these thoughts on tumblr as well…) anyways, thanks for a nice vid and sending you rays of love 😊
I honestly got a bit distracted while watching this because of the Twenty One Pilots banner thingy (I don't know what to call it) because along with being a ginormous fan of Stranger Things, I absolutely love Twenty One Pilots and I know way too much of the lore. But anyway, I think that Mike could be bi or gay, I don't see why his sexuality matters that much to people. Like, we all agree he loves Will (except for the people who ship Mileven and think there's no way Mike loves Will in a romantic way). His sexuality doesn't matter all that much as long as we have that agreement.
@@cloudycleric I don’t know what my first major hyperfixation was but tøp was one of my first. I don’t know if I had my hyperfixation with tøp or mythology first.
I personally think Mike is bi(and also nonbinary personally but thats just a fun headcanon for me not a serious thing). For one I think Mike has BPD and people with BPD are actually more likely to be bisexual than the general population by a large margin. Also I think Will and El mirror each othe in alot of ways. And so their attraction to El is an extension of their attraction to Will. I also think there's lots of stuck betweem worlds imagery with Mike(which is very bsiexual coded). And posters of Bi icons in their room like David Bowie. Also theres so few bi male characters on television so Id love to see Mike to be openly bi(even if I headcanon them as nonbinary in the show they are canonically male)
I personally think mike is leaning more on the gay side of things because of a few reasons such as symbolism of him not being interested in girls at all, examples being: getting annoyed about the others liking max as if he's annoyed at himself for not being able to like girls, pulling a disgusted face when dustin talks about Phoebe Cates being hot, a scene in season 4 where the lighting is specifically altered to look like mike has the gay flag on him (not a rainbow, the actual blue and green one) and a few other things (I've watched way too many mike wheeler analysis videos XD) and I know these are small things but I feel like it just makes sense idk
But, this being said, I 100% respect bi mike, in fact I'm sorta bi/pan myself so I definitely respect it! And I agree that it would probably be best if the writers had mike unlabeled so that it was just up to audience interpretation
Anyway those are just my thoughts haha
I think Mike is gay but I’d be ALL IN for bisexual Mike. I’m bisexual myself and I see a lot of myself in him. Unlabeled would also be awesome, like Wille from Young Royals
Unlabeled is also the most likely possibility if Byler is canon. Because I highly doubt Mike would even know of the word bisexual and also bisexuality wasn't really seen as legitimate within LGBT spaces until the 90s.Also there's so few bisexual male characters in media it's a legit problem. And I don't think they'd make him fully gay either. They could and I'd be all in for it
i personally lean towards gay mike but i think bi mike is cool too
I must've been hanging out on the peaceful side of Tumblr, 'cause I had *no idea* the bi vs. gay thing got so crazy! Like, "DO NOT interact if you are a SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FLAVOUR of my OWN OPINION!!!" That's really funny. Interestingly enough, I've been on both sides of it. I personally thought he was bi at first, since he dated Eleven and seemed to like her.
Once I went back and rewatched everything, that's when I thought, "Oh, maybe he *is* gay!" Mike seems so confused and unsure about himself around El. Plus, they don't click together the way their friends do in their own relationships. Dustin and Susie have their little songs and nicknames, Max and Lucas break up a lot but still spend quality time together, whereas Mike and El... write letters, maybe? Eh.
That being said, if Mike is bi or is completely unlabelled, I would get it. The writers kept things ambiguous enough that it could go any which way- hey, maybe that was the point.
Also, sweet posters and lights.
thank you!!
also, i completely agree. i definitely fluctuate between opinions too, i think every side of the argument has good points. it's interesting how you bring up how mike & el don't really have that chemistry that the other couples in the show have! definitely something i have to think about
i dont rlly think it matters that much bc we all know Michael Wheeler is a boyliker and boykisser (fingers crossed for st5) completely agree that him being bi doesnt erase his queerness, but he also doesnt HAVE to be bi bc he dated/kissed El ykyk (loved the video btw im a new subscriber :) )
I personally love the unlabeled Mike headcanon. I don't really see him as someone who would care about labeling himself. All he knows is that he wants to kiss Will and thats all he really cares about knowing. Figuring out whether he just like dudes or likes both dudes and gals isn't important to him. He's just a Will kisser 👨❤️💋👨
Throughout this whole video I’ve been nodding in agreement; I don’t mind as long as Mike likes Will back, and I think the whole vs thing is so unnecessary. Great video, cant wait for the next !!💗
I love the craziness of this
thank you bbg
i think hes leaning to the gay side, as sometimes when he looks at will he looks like so in love and with el and any other girl he dosent.
and if you notice in season 2 when they're in the snowball dustin is looking at max
and mike could be looking at will
also dustin and mike were looking at them a bit like gutted ig?? idk how to explain it
anyways ollie, ur really funny and i love your channel!
Random but... your room is so cool!!!
Anyway, I personally think Mike is bi because the arguments for him not being attracted to El never convinced me in the first place, there are certainly pieces of "evidence" that could point to Mike being gay too though so I'm always keeping that option in mind. I'll love him either way and as long as he's ending up with Will I'm okay with anything... I just need them to be happy in the finale!!!
i actaully love ur videos so muchhh!!
It really doesn't matter if Mike is gay or bi, I mean- he DID love El in the past but their relationship didn't work out much, plus alot of people really think they are working their problems out in season 4. But who is really trying to help them? Will is, All for his heart to stay broken and never be fixed-but also yes, Mike does WANT to kiss Will I'm pretty sure by how much lip stares and other stares he gave Will in season 4 proofs it.
Plus I think he's bi, some people thinks he gay like Will also, But yes just because he might be gay in season 5, doesn't mean for the people who thought he's bi be bi-homophobic cause that just doesn't make sense at all.
Plus!
Can you imagine if Mike and Will kiss at the end of season 5!? How would you react to that!😮
& the part about mike loving el previously is completely valid!! honestly, when i really think about it, it seems more likely that el didn’t like mike back because she barely had met him in s1 & all that. but yeah!!! i can’t believe people still think that. mileven conflict was resolved in s4
&. if they kiss. i might explode
I love you and your videos sm!!! Byler endgame!!!
I am personally a gay truther, but I respect bi truthers and think bi mike slays also
but it doesn’t matter tbh, because either way he’s deeply inlove with will
and (in my opinion)
will fell first, mike fell harder
but yeah that’s it lol I’m out of things to say
i love that you said it was crackhead hours! i thought i was the only one that said that shit😂
u know, as for assumptions on mike’s identity, I was firstly more a bi-mike believer, but that was before watching tons of byler analysis videos 😂 now i think abt him mostly as gay - and yeah I guess I would like the idea of him being gay all the time that totally erase his attraction to el (🙈 sorry mileven if u’r here) as their relationship mostly made me confused and seemed forced all the way through
however, I agree that biness aside has nothing to do with him not being attracted to el personally
and yeah, Im bi myself lol so thats not like biphobic staff on my side 😅
not being regarded to el, personally Im totally fine with all variants for mike because like u said - mike wants to kiss will, thats all that matters 💕
and my another point is:
watching you now I came up with a thought that Mike being unlabelled can be a good take for creating relatability for both gays and bis, in that way this seems pretty fine idea for audience being able to associate themselves with this character and that is just cool 🙌🏻
(I guess now i wanna share these thoughts on tumblr as well…)
anyways, thanks for a nice vid and sending you rays of love 😊
mike is bi and eleven is aro/ace
change my mind.
I honestly got a bit distracted while watching this because of the Twenty One Pilots banner thingy (I don't know what to call it) because along with being a ginormous fan of Stranger Things, I absolutely love Twenty One Pilots and I know way too much of the lore. But anyway, I think that Mike could be bi or gay, I don't see why his sexuality matters that much to people. Like, we all agree he loves Will (except for the people who ship Mileven and think there's no way Mike loves Will in a romantic way). His sexuality doesn't matter all that much as long as we have that agreement.
omg same. twenty one pilots was my first major major hyperfixation that i can remember. also, i agree
@@cloudycleric I don’t know what my first major hyperfixation was but tøp was one of my first. I don’t know if I had my hyperfixation with tøp or mythology first.
me rn i kinda like it mike being gay or bisexual for me that's so cool i'm so excited to binge watch stranger things 1 2 3 and 4
Wow now I have to stop watching at 1:05 coz I’m a graphic designer bro-
I hope Mike is bi (because of Eleven) but, I think he’s gay….
I personally think Mike is bi(and also nonbinary personally but thats just a fun headcanon for me not a serious thing). For one I think Mike has BPD and people with BPD are actually more likely to be bisexual than the general population by a large margin. Also I think Will and El mirror each othe in alot of ways. And so their attraction to El is an extension of their attraction to Will. I also think there's lots of stuck betweem worlds imagery with Mike(which is very bsiexual coded). And posters of Bi icons in their room like David Bowie. Also theres so few bi male characters on television so Id love to see Mike to be openly bi(even if I headcanon them as nonbinary in the show they are canonically male)