AMAZING Fender Combo - BUT does it stand a chance against THE GREATEST GUITAR AMP OF ALL TIME?!
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- In this video we compare a 1963 Fender Concert Amp 6G12 to the Benchmark 1959 Fender Bassman 5F6A using a Gibson Les Paul 1959 Reissue and a Fender Stratocaster 1969 Custom Shop.
AMAZING Fender Combo - BUT does it stand a chance against THE GREATEST GUITAR AMP OF ALL TIME?!
63 Concert Amp Vs 59 Bassman!
Cheers!
Ay vill vait vit a baited breath! Ok, lets go!
See you in a while! Cheers :-)
at full volume- ??? both sound good, but - guess which wins, ha !
It did it's Fender namesake proud here! It all sounded great!👍🎸🔊
Patrick Foster ya mean "squier" -- I've got a Squier Tele I'd put up w any !! GREAT GUITAR !!
As a JTM45 clone owner, I am a huge fan of the bassman circuit. Perfect amount of breakup but plenty of headroom to crush it with as much fuzz as you have. But those brownfaces are sooo cool! Especially with the harmonic vibrato. Answer is I can't decide but I do know you're lucky to have one of each in the same room!
Well done Brothers, Love them both of course! Thanks Simon, Be Well Johan!
Thanks Brother!
Both sound great, but like pretty much everyone else has said, the 59 Bassman wins. Loved both you and Simon's riffage. Great way to start our week my friend! Rock on and God Bless.
Thanks my friend, glad to hear that!
Great variety on licks and riffs as always.
Almost 60k subscribers
cheers, Johan
Thanks Wesley! :-)
You know who wins? WE DO, because you and Simon were playing incredibly, and both amps sound aces. Amazing video. Of course, we know how amazing the Bassman is, but the Concert Amp is quite a gem.
Thanks my friend! I’m glad you liked it!
That old Bassman wins hands down!!! No question for me....!
Thanks Sacha
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I don't even know what this is supposed to be this is not a comparison video two different people playing two different guitars with two completely different styles and a concert sounds nothing like a bassman I think playing all these amps he has lost his hearing
vick smith are you drunk? 2 amps, 2 different guitars, 2 styles of playing. Thats a great way of comparing amps, covers alot of ground. ”Sounds nothing like a bassman” - well as you probably know, these 50 year old amps often has differences in sound. The components were not always the same, there may have been changes made, and they grow old differently depending on climate conditions, how much they have been played, speakers and only God knows what else....Thanks !!
Hi, Johan!
I think, the amp is just super. Both for agressive strat and crunchy LP. Really deep and strong sound. Unbelievable! Thank you, that was cool!!!!! See you, and greats to Simon!
Zigfrid
Thanks Zigfrid! I’m glad you liked it!
Concert is glassier, both are necessary! Gorgeous playing, you both do them great justice!
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
As a tweed bassman owner....i must say it's very hard to find a amp that gives you that feeling as a tweed bassman.. it's so great you really don't need another... it can do it all n its rare you find a guitar that sounds bad through it... it is the greatest amp ever made hands down
2nd your words
The brown face concert amp is more than likely what Duane and Dickie used at the A&R studios concert. Amazing
A tip for a Strat through the Concert. I used to run mine at full volume with treble on max and bass around 3 or 4 (with a hotplate if necessary) - normal channel was a little bit darker than the Vibrato channel, I'd turn the volume on my Strat down to 7 or 8. It warmed up the top end and had such a super,crunch with clarity and tight low end it was great. Lowering the Strat's volume cleaned it up perfectly.
For the in-between sounds I'd knock the guitar volume up to 10 to get that extra bit of clarity and I'd also hit it with a boost pedal for solos.
I tried out an original '59 Bassman in a vintage guitar shop, but couldn't afford it. What struck me about it the most was the clarity whether clean or dirty. Both amazing amps IMO.
Thanks for the tip, Rob!
If you drop them over at my house I'll play them for a few years and get back to you with my thoughts. Seriously, I like the bassman with the strat and the concert with the Les Paul. But everything was stellar. Thanks
Those speakers in the Concert are quite likely from Eminence (check codes) and being modest quality ceramic units would sound very different from the alnico Jensens in the Bassman; so the Concert did pretty well, despite finishing second.
Just imagine, if it had nice vintage speakers in how even better it would be?
Johan, you should totally do a demo of the new Marshall Studio Classic and Studio Vintage! Also, here in Oregon, it's been slightly colder than Gothenburg! Nothing like 18 inches/half a meter of snow!
The brownface are my favorite fenders. I'm old enough to remember when Distortion was a bad thing. Fender was always trying to clean up their amplifiers. With every new series they got cleaner. That left us with the silverface.
:-) yeah they left that market wide open for Marshall
That's a good way of putting it. I'll have to remember that.
Also I recently heard the Mesa Boogie Mark 1 what is a souped-up Princeton. So Fender was the blueprint for a lot of people. But they missed the Distortion boat. But we still have the old ones. I think the Mark 1 should should join the ranks of famous classic amplifiers.
Guitar Ocd oooohhh silverfaced twin with jbl’s - my shitty playing could not handle that monster - like hitting nails in my eardrums 😂
I dunno, silverface bandmaster reverbs and bassmans get pretty dirty..
great sounds out of both of them! little more breakup from the 59 bassman.
Great to see that you're now investing into lightshows as well!
Cheers
I think they both sound great,both have good tone and character 😀
The Concert with the Les Paul was amazing!
Thanks! :-)
They do have a slightly different sound but both sound fantastic with single coils and humbuckers, id love to on either amp.
Great Video and Top Thumbnail! :) Sound at 1:08 is Killer!
Thanks! Glad to hear it! :-)
Not sure if it was just me but did anyone else have difficulty knowing which amp was being played thru out the video? I was looking on the screen to see it was written anywhere but didn't see any info mentioning it. With the Strat I am assuming the amp being heard was the one he was facing.. but at the end you just see him jamming so I wasn't sure which amp was being used there as well. Also with the Les Paul you were in the same position while playing both amps so honestly I had no idea which amp was being used. ??? Would it be possible for you to add some notes/text indication using the UA-cam text overlay? Would really help to know which amps are being played. Thank you
Great video as always Johan, the Bassman wins for me!
I have an idea for a new video you might want to do: Prove or refute that a tube amp sounds a little different everyday (all variables constant) and what could lead to this phenomenon if it’s true. A lot of sound engineers and players claim that the amp sounds different from one day to another or even at different day times.
Thanks! Yeah that’s a great idea. I think the differences are very slight if any, but I know guys who think it’s significant
Every time mine sounds 'extra good' I check the input voltage...but it is always the same as when it sounds 'less extra good'...that's not it...LOL!
i think i like the concert better! Those mids!
They are both great amps ...its the 59 for me with those deep clean lows, man does that 59 lov that Strat !
Brownface, more open, more sparkle, and yet gritty at the same time. Don't get all the "Bassman by a mile man!" nonsense. Everyone can get a reissue Bassman or clone in their stable which makes it easier to be biased towards. The hard truth is Browns are very difficult to acquire and no true reissues except the recent Chris Stapleton Princeton, hence the hesitation to admit how awesome the browns really are. Glad to see Johan featuring these very exclusive rare beasts and I am proud to say I own a 63 Pro which is by far the best amp I've ever paired with a strat bar none.
you have such great gear-- amazing to listen - thanks so much !! hopefully I can find/source -- playing a 81 Peavy 2x12 classic and an Orange crush 20, good- but still chasing "tone" '--- great playing n vid, THANKS
Thanks 9wen! The Classic is a favorite of mine.
Johan Segeborn nice, me as well, but just too loud in my current living situation, any thoughts on "home " - amps - thanks !!
Does the concert have a tube rectifier to a diode rectifier?
Thanks Johan
What's the spec on the Strat? Super jangly! Love it
Both sound great. The brown/ blonde Fenders sound so phat!
Thanks, yeah they do indeed
I have a hand wired Victoria 45410 that is an exact copy of the Fender 1959 Bassman and it sounds fantastic
I really like the Victoria clones too! I played the Ivy League and Bandmaster 35310 on the channel earlier.
I thought the bassman was tighter and more focused. That said, the Concert had a nice airiness to its tone. I could easily gig either one, but the bassman was my favorite of the two. Thanks for posting!
I'm liking the 1963 Fender Concert Amp over the bassman defiantly sounds More Opened up.
I preferred the concert for high gain Strat but the Bassman for the rest. Cheers
I liked the Concert, but it was a little difficult to tell which amp was playing played at what time.
Fantastic comparison, fantastic sounds and melodies. Most of video I was impressed more with Concert as more cleer sounding amp. Do you think it is amp charactristic or spakers difference? However bassman has got more fat sound and that something
I personally think the les paul sounds better through the 63 concert amp and the strat sounds better through the bassman
Thanks man
I agree, this is what I heard as well.
I was about to say that as well. The Concert conveys a bit of extra character from the Les Paul, but the Bassman is amazing with the Strat.
Simon's short hair is the ultimate winner 🤘
Jokes aside, both amps sounded fantastic. Actually, it'd be more appropriate to say that you guys could bring out the best tones from both amps 👍
Thanks, glad you liked them 😀🤟
Both sound good!
Running through the same speaker cabinet and speakers please.
thanks Johan that’s the only way I could tell
They both sound great. The Bassman probably wins out, but I certainly would never be disappointed with the Concert.
Thanks Cornelius
Does it stand a chance? Yes :) Both great!
Thanks! :-)
I would have liked hearing the concert through the alnico loaded bassman..I was always under the impression that the concert was a super reverb w/o the reverb..
Fender switched the output transformer of the Concert from the same Triad transformer used 1959 Bassman to a Schumacher transformer in about 1961. I wonder if a Concert with the older Triad transformer would sound even more similar to the 1959 Bassman.
The bassman sounds like every álbum from the 60s that I love
The price difference doesn't justify the sound difference. I'll take the concert, then flog it for the next twenty years and see if it sounds closer..... Awesome video like usual mate.
Thanks man! :-)
Nice. I'm saving up fo a Bassbreaker. My neighbors will be pissed.
If you really want to piss off your neighbors, get a Sound city 120.
@@BigTrouble324 Just want to piss them off, not kill them.
Hahahaha!
lol Hope that works out for you (and your neighbors 😉😜), but I hope you also realize the Bassbreakers have exactly nothing in common with a Bassman except the brand name 😬
The Concert is a completely different circuit, and it also runs on higher voltages (if not accounted for with a variac). Mine runs with 498 on the plates, which is higher than every other Fender I've owned except my Super Twin & 75s.
Also, if that's a 63 Concert, it's a 6G12-A. They went to 6 preamp tubes by 61.
I just wish I could turn mine up that loud!
Jump the channels and mix in the Vibrato on the 1963....where would we stand ? Brown face Fenders have IMHO an electric creamy thing happening no other amp or pedal can reproduce. I would love your take on the history of why they only made those amps for such a short period. I've heard and read different takes on the subject. Thanks Johan. I appreciate all your videos.
Some people say that Fender Brownface amps were almost a perfect middle, between dirty Tweed and Blackface cleaner amps.
I prefer the Bassman. The concert sounds great but the Bassman is on another level.
The strat bridge pickup sounded a bit coarse through the Concert for my ears. Otherwise a glorious amp, but not quite a Bassman. Thanks for the comparison of the two!
Stumbled upon a Concert amp exactly like that just b4 Xmas, in a little music shop nearby. Was nearly mint, $2,000. There was also a Bassman head + 1-15 cab, same vintage & tan tolex, for $3,000. Shop owner said an old guitar player died & his kids didn't want the amps. I wanted both !!
You got them? :-)
@@JohanSegeborn
Sadly, I got neither. My credit card was burning with desire tho!! Can't always get what U want, right?
Yeah that’s unfortunately true. Cheers
These amplifiers are absolutely timeless. I'm sure their sound will still be sought after 100 years from now!
Yeah, I hope they will be!
Ok. Great video. Love that concert. The baseman does sound better. But I think the main difference we are hearing is alnico jensons vs ceramic. The baseman has P10R? And the concert has C10R?
We play a Concert with original P10Q in this video
ua-cam.com/video/tp_j1ORjXIY/v-deo.html
The speakers are a huge part of the tone as always
Great video, but my guess is that the sound difference comes from the speaker and less from the amp itself... Cheers
Agreed. I checked again, and the speakers are not the same model, and one has newer speakers than the other. Also the circuit, and maybe the cabinet differences will affect the sound.
Thanks, yeah the speakers are the most important factor. You can listen to the Concert with the original P10Q in this video
ua-cam.com/video/tp_j1ORjXIY/v-deo.html
It's the Concert for me. Love all the Brown Face Fenders 👍
Thanks Carl!
Hey E.J. what's your take ?
I would say the concert,crisp and clear!
Thanks Shawn
On the Les Paul, I liked the Bassman better. With the Strat however I actually liked the Concert. That combo had a nice smooth glassy tone.
Yeah, on the gainer parts the Strat was amazing with the Concert!
Love the Amps, but that Les Paul your playing is even sweeter sounding. Liquid Mercury.
In late 70s and early 80s ....we thought the 50s - how boring ..we wanted more gadgets and hi gain ,etc etc - now- when i listen to 50s records .....i try to listen to the pure natural tones ...and dig the honest simplicity - playing these amps is a time capsule ....as close as we will ever get to being "back in the 50s& 60s "
Yeah thank god we came to our senses after the 80s :-)
I own a 59 Bassman and a 62 Concert. The Bassman is 25% better when distorted - maybe 10% better on cleans. But the Bassman is louder if you need the volume and are not mic-ing through a PA. But the Bassman costs 3-4 times as much. Which puts the Concert in "bargain vintage" territory. Pretty sure all the transfomers are the same too...or at least the power trans is...Best live sound I ever had was a y split cable with the Bassman on the left side of the stage and the Concert on the right.
how much of the difference do you think is due to the speakers?
Could be most of the difference since one has ceramic magnets and the other alnico.
What are the fundamental difference between a hotrod 410 clean channel and these
I’m not familiar with that circuit I’m afraid
I like both of these and I find myself switching back and forth on which one I like the most. But, overall for my ears the concert edges out the win. Also, I see the "greatest amp of all time" label quite often and it's usually the bassman I see being called that. Why do so many call it that? Is it because so many have used it recording albums? Or because of it's tone/sound? If it's the tone/sound of it I easily cannot agree. The tone/sound of the High Power, in my opinion, is vastly better. I know they are less numerous than the bassman but the bassman just can't stack up tonally to the HP.
Concert has more headroom and is more scooped, traditional AB763.
The bassman crunches with a lot of mid punch and produces such a creamy tone, marshalls could only dream to sound so good.
To each their own but I much prefer that bassman
Thanks Leonardo
This concert is not an AB763 circuit, that came later. It's a 6G12.
You might have to send me both to try for a while for a truly informed opinion 😃
Glad you’re thorough ;-)
The Concert has a lower-mid thing going on that sounds great. Let's hear it with a tubescreamer!
Thanks! Hopefully it will be featured many times more
Both great but I give the Concert the edge by just a bit.....
The 90's Jensens kinda makes the comparison a bit moot in my opinion. That being said I kind of prefer the clarity of the Bassman, or better perhaps, the original Jensens. THAT being said, both sound amazing!
Thanks, we play another concert with the original P10Q in this video
ua-cam.com/video/tp_j1ORjXIY/v-deo.html
And here’s another 59 bassman from that same session if you want to compare
ua-cam.com/video/dtV2wp6IcLM/v-deo.html
I'm just here for the songs now
Tweed Bassman! I *love* brownface Fenders but this head-to-head isn't close at all.... the 59 Bassman is easily my favorite of the two.
The 63 sounded very very good. But If they were both free I would hands down choose the 59. Personally I think the Groove Tubes Soul O' might be the best amp ever made. In the competition for this title I would nominate these amps: Bassman 59, Groove Tubes Soul O', Mesa Boogie Mark 1, Marshal JTM45, Matchless(often refered to as the Rolles Royce of guitar amps), Vox AC30 is also a contender along with the most expensive of them all the Dumble Overdrive Special.
Link to the Soul O' ua-cam.com/video/1i1Yndlzz2Y/v-deo.html
Yeah there are many classics
@@JohanSegeborn Have you tried the original Matchless amplifier? It is an all clean low wattage amp. Considered to be one of the best.
@@torarinvik4920 what is the original matchless ? does it have a title name? Or was it just the first matchless amp ever made so it's simply matchless !?
@@AuntAlnico4 Sorry I meant the DC-30.
The bassman has a sweeter rolloff...more rounded. The concert is sharper and "cleaner". I run ceramic speakers because I like the aggressive attack vs the more round sound of an alnico speaker
The concert has a lower headroom than the Bassman too which makes it break up earlier.
The concert with the Les Paul had a very Joe Walsh kinda tone.
I couldn't figure out which was which because the light was always on." It took me a minute what's the question again??
I love that no matter what country Rock is awesome!"
Thanks man
Yeah, we should have marked out the names. You can see which amp that’s played by where mic is positioned
To me, the Concert sounds like the Bassman with the treble turned down. The Bassman by itself can sound a bit harsh but if you put it in a mix I'm sure it would cut through very well. By the way I enjoyed the psychedelic light show. Next time maybe a smoke machine and some lasers
Hahaha! ;-)
Cool amp, love it. Maybe even more interesting than Bassman?
Thanks Dan! I preferred the concert for the high gain Strat part but the bassman otherwise. Cheers
Well it’s a Bassman for the Win
Both great! :-)
Thanks! :-)
I am a moron. Two minutes in and I'm frustrated that I can't tell which amp is getting played because it doesn't tell me on the screen...and then I realize that the mic position is telling me all I need to know. Is UA-cam making me stupid?
Killer tones.
Bassman wins overall. Much smoother, rounded tone. They'd sound great together.
While the Bassman does sound a little sweeter, I think both of these amps sound great. Another good comparison would be both through the same cab/speakers. I’m curious how much difference the newer Jensens in the Concert are making; my bet is the concert through the Bassman’s cab would sound pretty glorious.
Yeah that would definitely be interesting. Cheers
How do you get access to/own this stuff Johan? Admit it, you were part of the Västberga helicopter robbery in 2009!
I like Bassman.
Damn, the playing on this was intoxicating I didn’t compare the amp sounds!
Hahaha! ;-) Glad to hear it!
It depends ... I like that edgy Bassman sound but that brownface has something else. Probably prefer Les Paul + Bassman and Stratocaster + Concert. That sound of Concert is probably influenced/affected by changed speakers (not sure but maybe there's a better option with replacement speakers) but it still sounds great. Bassman sounds edgy and Concert sounds more settled thats the difference and the question is what option the guitar player prefers more.
The preamp is nothing like a Bassman(5F6/5E6). The Concert has more in common with a Super Reverb. Not saying either is better or worse, tone is 100% subjective. Pick what you like best for the music you’re playing.
I have both a 5F6A and AB763 Super Reverb, both running at the same time is the best to me.
We had a 65 Super Reverb around, we should have included it too. Sound wise I think the concert is closer to the bassman though. Even with replaced speakers, like here.
Johan Segeborn I should have stated that the Concert is a very great sounding amp. Some even used the same choke and output transformers as the 5F6A.
Yes! A three way comparison between the Concert/Bassman/Super Reverb would be a perfect successor to the previous demos.
But the concert is a great amplifier it has abit more uump n muscle to it..... and a bit quicker to its sweet spot... definitely more touch sensitive than a bassman also because its 10 watts lower....the bassman is more even and the acoustics of your instrument really shine.... I'm my humble opinion a stratocaster sounds it absolute best through a tweed bassman nothing is better..... i say buy both the brown face concert & tweed bassman plus a super reverb n you got all the fender tones you need. 4x10s are the way to go. Great spread & more than enough volume
The Bassman to me sounds like it has a more fatter sound. I guess that's why it's called a bassman. The Marshall JCM800 is based on the circuitry of a bassman. Just more of what we call drive and sustain. Particularly when you use the low sensitivity input.
Thanks man, yeah it’s one big sounding amp
Bassman by a mile no doubt !
contrary to popular opinion - I think the combo is as easy winner here. Bassman sounds thin in comparison. lots of treble on the batsman.
Sounds like the other player might be into Little Barrie?
this is this is the closest weve seen to johan 'onstage'!!
Hahaha! Yeah that was a brutal light show 😉
if in all instances you guys are playing through the bassman first following it by playing through the pro the bassman sounds incredibly good the pro sound fine but the bassman kills it
Cheers Dan
THE GREATEST GUITAR AMP OF ALL TIME?! That sits in my living room. It's my Fender Blues Jr, fitted with a 12 inch Celestion Green Back, Loaded with Mesa Boogie tubes. It works for my stuff!
Am I the only person who thought the bassman didn't sound very good?
kyle saloka Yep, appears so! ;)
bassman ... no doubt
I bought a brand new brown faced Concert Amp,2 reverb units to match,and a new 62 Strat; All back in early 1963, and still have them all except the 62 Strat has been replaced by a 1965 Strat in 1965. I’m still playing on all of them and over all those years, I have played every kind of music with them,but when I bought them, I was playing Surfing Music Instrumentals But over the years they have played funk,jazz,blues,classic rock,swamp music,country,rockabilly,love songs and more and the right sound was always there for every venue,and I still remember what I paid for all of them,plus a hard shell guitar case and a shire 55s mic and stand and they all still work great but show a lot of road wear....but back then I paid cash for all of them and the total cost was $833.00 ,which was a big amount for then, but who knows what there all worth now?...........but probably the best deal and investment I could have ever made! LARRY WEBERG
Bassman for me, monster riffage throughout though!
Thanks! Glad to hear that!
Bassman is the clear winner. Concert sounds good, but not as good as the Bassman.
Yeah Bassman is the benchmark