If you will later charge her. U will not include her on your witness list. She maybe suspected to have planned the murder. As they have a witness that will come n link Kelly with accused Number 5. Then boom... she will be charged
You need to be strategic about such things guys. The state knew that the witness and evidence will lead them to her hence they did charge or call her as witness cause they knew that they will eventually arrest her cause of the evidence they have. It's not like they didn't have this cellphone record's. Lol
Why was Senzo left, with no assistance? Any human would try to help immedialy. Why was the crime scene cleaned. Have they been charged with destroying evidence.
As a concerned South African citizens in this case, may the court suboened every service providers of the cellphone contact numbers mentioned here because we want to see the real SMS conversations and hear the real call conversations here, simple 😢💔🙆⁉️z
Hahah oh Nthaby, I know you watched how they contort the law according to who you are ie Mkhwebane, H.E Zuma, rama. It can be clearly available to the court by every law feasible but they will still find a way to deny the pertinent evidence entry into court or they will fashion a questionable judgement who's appeal will be heard by an utterly partial judge. Give it up.
@@Ms_MankothamNot the ones between Zandi and Longwe. We want the real conversations with regard to: 1. Kelly's call to Chicco 2. Accused no.5 and Kelly before & after Senzo's murder 3. Tumelo Madlala's call to Sfiso Meyiwa
There are cases where the NPA will 1st go after the hitmen or co-conspirators to secure a conviction then make a stronger case against the main accused. It happened with the Shabir Sheik & Zuma case even though its not working out well for the state. They convicted Sheik & Zuma's case is still ongoing. Same could happen with Kelly. And they may be trying to get one of the suspects to confess& point Kelly out.
To me, it don't make sense to hire a hitman 2 do a hit ryt at the place whr u r at ur most vulnerable, I mean, at ur home wit ur children there including ur sibling n ur own mother aah ah
My question why did Kelly called the accused 5 few fays befote senzo was killed ? Cz in theirs statement they confesses that intruders came in but she called one of them
It now seems Senzo was killed by izinkabi.. it is normal for izinkabi to contact those known to be very close to their target .. Kelly never rang nkabi called her ..
Zikalala you are my hero on matters of justice. Senzo case is a mystery. The state continues to undermine us presenting false cellphone records in 2023, they always had access to these records, why they did not use it back then to prosecute these fellows if it was true. If it was genuine they would have prosecuted kelly as well. Why?😅😅😅😅
I think they are not bogus bcos that first judge maumela didnt want more evidence. That is why he was always postponing the trial. Maybe he didnt want this case solved. Maybe he was bought..
even if they can't prove whst was said on the phone records Stein got, the fact that she was involved with the accused can mean something , but twala they must not forget him and Kelly in this court case
I personally think that, the state has forsee how Kelly is connected to the whole issue, and they don't want her as a witness. Instead, they might just charge her as together with ready accussed men.
If the SAPS and the State are this efficient in cellphones, why are so many cellphone theft go unsolved even when reported? Maybe they need the same amount of time as it has taken for this case to come to trial?
"If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck". Something foul happened at MaKhumalo's house and it smells of 💩!
This Kelly khumalo Lady have a bad recipe for boyfriends makwaeba jub jub now Mr meyiwa there is something suspicious about her history police must look carefully
I'm reading the transcripts and it's so full of wrong spellings and some of the things that's been said isn't correct.maybe you should stop writing them because it is confusing.Thank you
Kelly made the state believe that she is a victim, they killed her boyfriend and the state decided to excecise empathy on her by not listing her as a witness or suspect. Little did they know that we will hear that the murder was apparently premeditated with all those calls between her and two of the accused. I disagree with Mpumelelo when he says the state felt she won't add value because Zandi and Tumelo testified
Given the gravity and time it has taken for this case, I feel like there is a role Orlando Pirates or SAFA or Dept of Sports should be playing. In my opinion, they should be sponsoring a proper commission of inquiry into the circumstances of Senzo’s death. The courts view is narrow, and seems to be focused on corroboratory witness testimonies, which imo, is a recipe for failure, in the event that the people in the house have agreed on a story to adopt. 2 different dockets in this case also does not help
But if it was Mandisa who hired the hitman, why wud they clean the crime scene, why wud Kelly call Chicco instead of calling the police, ambulance or Senzo's mother?
Senzo waa killed by mistake n not by Kelly or those gents. Thats what i think after seeing severals videos around this matter. Its gonna be difficult .but lets hope the Killer collaborate n tell the truth once for all.
The law itself is lawless. This case should have been done with a very long time ago.
I concur!
done in less than 2 days
They were BUSY COOKING this menumixmasala SOUP
You cannot limit the witness list by not calling the key witness like Kelly
If you will later charge her. U will not include her on your witness list.
She maybe suspected to have planned the murder. As they have a witness that will come n link Kelly with accused Number 5. Then boom... she will be charged
At this point! Let me forget about this case nkosiyam. Phumula Senzo ❤️🩹
There is definitely more than meets the eye in this case. Gerry Nel is right there is a Master Mind behind this murder.
And they are buying time to arrest this mastermind eixh 😢
She is not going to be arrested ,the law is scared of her she should be in jail by now
Why they are scared
Her inyanga is very strong.
You need to be strategic about such things guys. The state knew that the witness and evidence will lead them to her hence they did charge or call her as witness cause they knew that they will eventually arrest her cause of the evidence they have. It's not like they didn't have this cellphone record's. Lol
@@Tee-lady😂😂😂😂 ngathi angasilayela nathi
No such
Why was Senzo left, with no assistance? Any human would try to help immedialy.
Why was the crime scene cleaned. Have they been charged with destroying evidence.
SENZO left with no assistance because HE WAS DEAD
THAT IS WHY
This case seems to be, turning out to be interesting now 🤔 and I have a feeling that it will be wrapped up soon with people going to jail.
Kelly must be arrested immediately
She is linked but out.😅😅
Agreeee
May be they don't want I kheyos in Court hence they excluded Kelly in the whole investigation knowing she's going to be the last to be dealt with
The truth will prevail!
As a concerned South African citizens in this case, may the court suboened every service providers of the cellphone contact numbers mentioned here because we want to see the real SMS conversations and hear the real call conversations here, simple 😢💔🙆⁉️z
Sms they have, hence they were read during During Zandi’ testimony
Hahah oh Nthaby, I know you watched how they contort the law according to who you are ie Mkhwebane, H.E Zuma, rama.
It can be clearly available to the court by every law feasible but they will still find a way to deny the pertinent evidence entry into court or they will fashion a questionable judgement who's appeal will be heard by an utterly partial judge. Give it up.
Precisely
@@Ms_MankothamNot the ones between Zandi and Longwe. We want the real conversations with regard to:
1. Kelly's call to Chicco
2. Accused no.5 and Kelly before & after Senzo's murder
3. Tumelo Madlala's call to Sfiso Meyiwa
But guyz lets be honest. Why is kelly Khumalo not a witness or an accused. NPA is playing games
There are cases where the NPA will 1st go after the hitmen or co-conspirators to secure a conviction then make a stronger case against the main accused. It happened with the Shabir Sheik & Zuma case even though its not working out well for the state. They convicted Sheik & Zuma's case is still ongoing. Same could happen with Kelly. And they may be trying to get one of the suspects to confess& point Kelly out.
muthi
@@Tee-ladyhow she sleeps at night knowing that you have killed someone and the case is dragging bcos of you..
It's obviously premeditated murder
Why can't just arrest Kelly 😢
Because you can’t just arrest without evidence.
Asking myself the very same question
To me, it don't make sense to hire a hitman 2 do a hit ryt at the place whr u r at ur most vulnerable, I mean, at ur home wit ur children there including ur sibling n ur own mother aah ah
It doesn't make sense, vele. Especially with the kids there😢
Alibi
If it was a man he would’ve been jailed long time ago. The law doesn’t hold women accountable/responsible.
Law is too sotf when come to woman they just say we are equal before the law and it's not
Were is fikile mbalula he must apologise to zimbabweans the time he was police min he said senzo was killed by zimbabeeans and ran away to zimbabwe
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😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mxolele usis Fikile Mbaula....s/he is suffering from.erectile dysfunctional syndrome.....too much money but no erection is nd was his problem....
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My question why did Kelly called the accused 5 few fays befote senzo was killed ? Cz in theirs statement they confesses that intruders came in but she called one of them
Let there visitors list be checked kapha ejele sbone who visited the accused
🇿🇦🇿🇦 Killer Kelly Khumalo is Ntuthuko Shoba number 2 🇿🇦🇿🇦
It now seems Senzo was killed by izinkabi.. it is normal for izinkabi to contact those known to be very close to their target .. Kelly never rang nkabi called her ..
Can we wrap this up
Docket 375
Zikalala you are my hero on matters of justice. Senzo case is a mystery. The state continues to undermine us presenting false cellphone records in 2023, they always had access to these records, why they did not use it back then to prosecute these fellows if it was true. If it was genuine they would have prosecuted kelly as well. Why?😅😅😅😅
Because they are useless
My point exactly, these cellphone records are bogus🙄
I think they are not bogus bcos that first judge maumela didnt want more evidence. That is why he was always postponing the trial. Maybe he didnt want this case solved. Maybe he was bought..
So, in your view, the jnvestigator submitted false information under oath, right?
even if they can't prove whst was said on the phone records Stein got, the fact that she was involved with the accused can mean something , but twala they must not forget him and Kelly in this court case
And we want Justice for Senzo iningi kakhulu imali esichithekile la ngeke kuchithwe imali siphinde singalitholi iqiniso
Senzo rise
Baningi azothwala ngabo
She is the mastermind Kelly Khumalo along with Longwe case close.🤣😂😭😭
This lady must be arrest..why taking so long
I personally think that, the state has forsee how Kelly is connected to the whole issue, and they don't want her as a witness. Instead, they might just charge her as together with ready accussed men.
The first police men to arrive there knows the real suspect. But they hidding it n quite
Washonje kuleliculolakhe ukelly wathiwathwalangaye umufi
Indelelo esezingeni eliphezulu
these things are spiritual guys
Yes yes yes i felt it deeply in my spirit.
Kelly her mom and Longwe are treated by the court as if they were not in the house.Why
If the SAPS and the State are this efficient in cellphones, why are so many cellphone theft go unsolved even when reported? Maybe they need the same amount of time as it has taken for this case to come to trial?
Chicco is the master mind! It can be that he was at the scene that fateful night !
The state is pushing 5 accused in the corner giving them this case
Its up to the five to tell the truth once they get into the doc to implicate Kelly or to exonerate themselves.
I wonder if Kelly will also need an interpreter
😂😂😂😂😂yes she will need one
@mvuyimpithi8648 why? Delayed tactics.
@@veronicakarstel9126 problem is that English is not our first language,what then happens is that all the lies grow short legs when tested😁😁😁
"If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck". Something foul happened at MaKhumalo's house and it smells of 💩!
KELLY KHUMALO
Uchazekile no my lord ngalofakazi cha ngiyamvuma umsebenzi wakhe uwazi njengoba ezazi and ngisho ngamvusa ngobani uyokuphindela
Sis Kelly is very dangerous bakwethu buzani ku Jub jub no King Bhaka
Zikalala❤
usile kodwa uKelly
yha neh
This Kelly khumalo Lady have a bad recipe for boyfriends makwaeba jub jub now Mr meyiwa there is something suspicious about her history police must look carefully
Man eater
And Prosper Mkwaiwa
Lol😂she is hiding something..what a joke is this is
I think Senzo was involved in drags
I'm reading the transcripts and it's so full of wrong spellings and some of the things that's been said isn't correct.maybe you should stop writing them because it is confusing.Thank you
Idiots doing transcripts
Kelly made the state believe that she is a victim, they killed her boyfriend and the state decided to excecise empathy on her by not listing her as a witness or suspect. Little did they know that we will hear that the murder was apparently premeditated with all those calls between her and two of the accused. I disagree with Mpumelelo when he says the state felt she won't add value because Zandi and Tumelo testified
Given the gravity and time it has taken for this case, I feel like there is a role Orlando Pirates or SAFA or Dept of Sports should be playing.
In my opinion, they should be sponsoring a proper commission of inquiry into the circumstances of Senzo’s death.
The courts view is narrow, and seems to be focused on corroboratory witness testimonies, which imo, is a recipe for failure, in the event that the people in the house have agreed on a story to adopt. 2 different dockets in this case also does not help
Very wrong kelly anthe mother also should of been called up
mandisa might be the one who hired the hitman,the aim was to kill kelly but Senzo was at the wrong place at the wrong time,just saying
you need help
Yes everything is posible but kelly also communicted with accussed no.5 thats where the finger pointing too much to her side...
But if it was Mandisa who hired the hitman, why wud they clean the crime scene, why wud Kelly call Chicco instead of calling the police, ambulance or Senzo's mother?
I've been saying. In cases like this, both the wife and the girlfriend are suspects. Mandisa should have also been investigated.
Senzo waa killed by mistake n not by Kelly or those gents. Thats what i think after seeing severals videos around this matter.
Its gonna be difficult .but lets hope the Killer collaborate n tell the truth once for all.