This film is a masterpiece. And this scene, in its subtlety, nuance, and slow build is just heartbreaking and beautiful. Don't know that it has been surpassed. Wonderful!
@@musicloverlondon6070If anything the accent in the film is watered down a bit. In this scene Billy speaks with a genuine accent and manner of speech, but some of the other lads I’ve noticed don’t sound as natural.
This film saved my life. When I watched it as a boy (Living in the North), I felt understood for the first time. I have nothing but the deepest respect for all involved in this film. A true masterpiece based on a wonderful novel (A kestrel for a knave)
This has to be one of the all time classics,it encouraged my brother to get a kestrel and just like Billy said our kid trained the bird,we used to ask the local butcher for bits of meat,wat a feeling putting the glove on and shouting her that's when she wud fly to us and look so grateful for the meat.cannot explain how great a feeling it is to see a hawk sat on your glove looking into your eyes and seeing a HUMAN FRIEND 😊
Billy is a smart kid but being constantly belittled and talked down to by his teaches as being a dunce and not going to amount to anything in life. At home, he is constantly bullied by his elder brother Jud and his parents have written off as a nobody. No wonder he mentally and emotionally switches off at school and doesn't have the interest to pay attention.
State education is designed specifically to repress and destroy individuality and to instill order-following, obedience, to stay thinking. Only the ruling class receives traditional education, designed to nurture potential.
This was filmed near to where I grew up. The author of A Kestrel for a Knave went to my school. He interviewed our class in 1978 whilst researching for Looks and Smiles. Billy was me when I was growing up.
Must be 20 years since I saw the film but this scene always stuck with me. I find it sadder than any of the tragic bit that follow. Something about the wee boys passion shining through all that oppressive misery. Nothing captures School of that time better.
Colin Welland plays the role of school teacher absolutely spot on and David Bradleys acting is astounding given he had no previous experience....."Kes" was his first role. Ken Loach was interviewed on tv a few days ago and he said David (Billy Casper) struggled with remembering his lines but often ad libbed so naturally, Ken Loach left it in.
Watching this at age 7 started my journey into reading about birds egg collecting never did take an egg I would spend my dinner money and buy eggs from other lads ….. anyway at age 25 I purchased my first bird of prey a sparrow hawk then Merlin then peregrines and so forth all active bred this hobby got me at it for 40 years still going strong….. thanks kes.
Please watch it you won’t be disappointed! It encapsulates working class life in 1970’s Northern England, and believe me it is a very real depiction👍 It’s based on Barry Hines’ book ‘A Kestral For A knave’, which is also a masterpiece❤️
Absolutely superb scene. Takes me back to the awkwardness of being a loner at school. It's uncomfortable to watch, and thrilling at the same time. It's as if the teacher has gained his trust, much like Billy earned the trust of the hawk. By pure chance, I live about 50 yards from the ruins of Tankersley Old Hall, where Casper climbed up to the nest. I regularly see a Kestrel here, and it makes me smile every time.
I love this movie and watched it on UA-cam regularly until they yanked it off, forcing me to buy the dvd (haven’t done it yet), all the actors were locals, the Yorkshire dialect was hard to understand but I understood most of it, all the performances were terrific, felt so bad for Billy, the only time he was ever happy is when he was with Kes, you can see how animated he is just talking about his passion. It’s a shame more people don’t know about this classic film.
This film is a true masterpiece,shines a light on the the plight of the impoverished oop north,i can so relate to everything about this wonderful film,i was at a comprehensive school the same time as this film is set,just a beautiful piece of cinema history.👏👏👏🏴🏴🏴
What struck me was the tension between institutions and freedom. The teacher bosses Billy in class but is under Billy’s authority in the field. When Judd kills the bird we see it again. Money and institution clashing with something more beautiful. The film reminds me of childhood, bizarre schools and the urge for freedom. For me it was punk and heavy metal that suggested a way out. This is an important and beautiful film.
Farthing were great to Billy in book. Pure relationship between the two, Farthing like the dad Billy lost, both only faintly aware of the connection at best. Lovely
I can remember the same thing happening to me at school in 1981.was made to stand up in front of class for not listening.i was mad on training and hunting my ferrets lurchers and terrier's.after made my speech got a round of applause from the class and got given a can of Fanta from my teacher..what a great film..
We did this book when I was at school. The book is called "A Kestrel for a Knave" and it was by Barry Hines - though we still called it "Kes" because most of us had seen the movie. In the book the character of the kid is a lot more developed.
Feel sorry for Billy Casper, constantly belittled and talked down to by his teaches as being stupid and won't ever amount to anything in his life and comes from a toxic home. No wonder why he misbehaves most of the time and gets into mischief. The kestrel was the only comfort in his life where he felt at ease and at peace.
He had his moment to shine....to get some positive attention for himself.....yet it was selfless, it wasn't about him...he wanted to talk about the Kestrel. It is a beautiful moment in cinema.
That was so natural. It's ether your Mum being a very good actor or Loach knew *exactly* what he was doing. None of this scene feels forced or scripted.
Kes and 400 Blows are the two masterpieces in cinema about growing up. If he never makes another film to equal the legend of Kes, David (Dai) Bradley should know that no actor with an ounce of sense would dare even dreaming of doing a remake. Kes is and will always be Bradleys film, whilst taking nothing away from the great Loach.
Fully agreed. Kes and The 400 Blows are both masterpiece coming-of-age stories. Both are in the same rarefied company. I've yet to see an American film do this well. What we seem to get is adult nostalgia about growing up (Stand by Me), or lowest common denominator pandering (ET). But the the "real" experience of growing up, with all of its pain, confusion, ennui, energy and sorrow - is rarely seen, except in European films. I wish I knew the answer why.
To be fair, I feel like Todd Solondz, Gus van Sant, Noah Baumbach, Greta Gerwig and Richard Linklater -- to name a few -- have dealt with themes around growing up in the USA in a non-mawkish manner.
I highly recommend reading the book "A Kestrel for a Knave" by Barry Hines on which the film was based. The story runs slightly differently to the film and is a great little book.
I was lucky to have Barry Hines come to our school for a talk about Kes back in the day, our teacher was from the Barnsley area and knew him, wonderful film and what a privalige it was to have the author of the original book come to speak in our class.
Just over a minute and a half was cut from this scene. Who by and why I have no idea. The original version has not been seen in years. Thankfully, I have the missing bit from this scene in my collection. It should never have been cut.
Beautiful, and because its real. Billy isnt used to being centre of attention but overcomes his nerves to talk about a subject he knows about. Billys mates who give him a bad time normally are hanging on his every word. Just a pity the " cut" part of this scene, where Tibbut asks Billy about birds mating ( and Billy turns the qeustion back on him superbly, even Colin Welland is in stitches) isnt in this. Superbly done as is the rest of this film.
It's a joy to hear those rich Yorkshire accents that are sometimes difficult to understand. I think that's changing now & English regional accents are becoming homogenised or developing into ugly urban street slang like here in London.☹
The hawk that was used in the film actually belonged to captain Robert nairac the legendary guards captain murdered by the IRA who’s body was never found
We read this book at school. Our English teacher mr Jones was from Yorkshire. I love the football match with Brian Glover. Very sad when Judd kills Kes though. 😢
Look at Kes missing scene. If you can get the full version you will never go back. I cannot watch the dubbed watered down version. It is very rare and I think officially unavailable with the full length version of this scene it’s only a couple of mins but makes a difference. Look at Kes The Missing Scene on UA-cam. Also some versions have the voices dubbed by the original actors who do not speak that way. Yorkshire is a language as is Geordie etc.
This film should be shown in all universities up and down the country, it used to be studied when I was at school but for some reason now days white privilege seems to get banded around quite a lot, not a lot has changed.
Awesome film..but if anyone reads this comment please answer my question....The boy talking about the hawk...is this the same guy that starred in Aliens. I mean the 1st Film..older obviously....you the guy in the 1st Alien film where hes on hid back on the dinner table after eating what looked like noodles and a alien burst out of his chest and grew into a full adult alien and killed all the crew except Segorny weaver (cant spell her name)...so either that or he just looks the same but i think both films were early to mid 70's so actually maybe its not..
brooky bond No but it’s a good think as the two are similar and this was very perceptive of you. The guy in Alien is John Hurt, a famous actor. The young boy talking about the hawk is David Bradley, talking with a very broad Barnsley accent. If you you tube his name he doesn’t talk like that now. He’s very polite and softly spoken.
The PE teacher in Kes is Brian Glove who did star in the Alien movie. Type in Kes football scene and you will see Brian Glover as the PE teacher wearing the red tracksuit. The football scene is hillarious.
I read the book aged 11 and it broke my heart. The film is an absolute masterpiece.
I read the book at the same age , and that memory has never left me !
i left school in 72, and this film depicts my last few years perfectly, my favourite film of all time, with Whistle down the wind.
This film is a masterpiece. And this scene, in its subtlety, nuance, and slow build is just heartbreaking and beautiful. Don't know that it has been surpassed. Wonderful!
Beautifully put. It sums up how I feel about this film. It never fails to shake me to the core. A truly astonishing piece of art.
I’m reading this book with my year 7s and they absolutely love it. Can’t wait to show them the film.
A truly beautiful film. only people that have known real hardship will appreciate the beauty in this film.
Or pure Cinephiles.
Or both.
Explains why it flopped in America I guess.
One of the greatest scenes in cinema history. Thank you Mr. Loach, you are an institution.
Love this film I am Yorkshire born and bred and I love my Yorkshire accent I speak just like Casper
So am I 😊
Is the accent still as strong as in the film or is it more watered down these days? Hopefully, it won't be lost.
@@musicloverlondon6070 still very strong
tha knows!
@@musicloverlondon6070If anything the accent in the film is watered down a bit. In this scene Billy speaks with a genuine accent and manner of speech, but some of the other lads I’ve noticed don’t sound as natural.
This film saved my life. When I watched it as a boy (Living in the North), I felt understood for the first time. I have nothing but the deepest respect for all involved in this film. A true masterpiece based on a wonderful novel (A kestrel for a knave)
Thank you for sharing your experience mate. God bless you 🙏
A film never to be surpassed, truly a masterclass and icon in cinematic history.
This has to be one of the all time classics,it encouraged my brother to get a kestrel and just like Billy said our kid trained the bird,we used to ask the local butcher for bits of meat,wat a feeling putting the glove on and shouting her that's when she wud fly to us and look so grateful for the meat.cannot explain how great a feeling it is to see a hawk sat on your glove looking into your eyes and seeing a
HUMAN FRIEND 😊
there's a genius inside every child, they just need the chance to show it.
Billy is a smart kid but being constantly belittled and talked down to by his teaches as being a dunce and not going to amount to anything in life.
At home, he is constantly bullied by his elder brother Jud and his parents have written off as a nobody.
No wonder he mentally and emotionally switches off at school and doesn't have the interest to pay attention.
If you met a certain nephew of mine you really would take that comment back I'm not joking
@@oludotunjohnshowemimo434 Parent. His dad is absent.
Aye
State education is designed specifically to repress and destroy individuality and to instill order-following, obedience, to stay thinking.
Only the ruling class receives traditional education, designed to nurture potential.
Billy Casper teaching lessons. It was beautiful in Hynes' book, then Loach's film. But kids who watch this and get it, they're our flyers.
This was filmed near to where I grew up. The author of A Kestrel for a Knave went to my school. He interviewed our class in 1978 whilst researching for Looks and Smiles. Billy was me when I was growing up.
Must be 20 years since I saw the film but this scene always stuck with me. I find it sadder than any of the tragic bit that follow. Something about the wee boys passion shining through all that oppressive misery. Nothing captures School of that time better.
Colin Welland plays the role of school teacher absolutely spot on and David Bradleys acting is astounding given he had no previous experience....."Kes" was his first role. Ken Loach was interviewed on tv a few days ago and he said David (Billy Casper) struggled with remembering his lines but often ad libbed so naturally, Ken Loach left it in.
The only film that has made me bawl like a baby.... great film!
It's weird to hear this without Ricky laughing in the background.
Was you a camera man filming?
This is beautiful! What a legend of a scene
Watching this at age 7 started my journey into reading about birds egg collecting never did take an egg I would spend my dinner money and buy eggs from other lads ….. anyway at age 25 I purchased my first bird of prey a sparrow hawk then Merlin then peregrines and so forth all active bred this hobby got me at it for 40 years still going strong….. thanks kes.
Can't believe I have only just heard of this amazing film, just today!!!
Please watch it you won’t be disappointed! It encapsulates working class life in 1970’s Northern England, and believe me it is a very real depiction👍 It’s based on Barry Hines’ book ‘A Kestral For A knave’, which is also a masterpiece❤️
Absolutely beautiful, magnificent, heartbreaking, poetic and profound. Brilliance xx
my favourite scene from the film.
thanks for posting!
hopdac good movie I like it .
Absolutely superb scene. Takes me back to the awkwardness of being a loner at school. It's uncomfortable to watch, and thrilling at the same time. It's as if the teacher has gained his trust, much like Billy earned the trust of the hawk. By pure chance, I live about 50 yards from the ruins of Tankersley Old Hall, where Casper climbed up to the nest. I regularly see a Kestrel here, and it makes me smile every time.
A beautiful bitter sweet film and book
What a completely fucking beautiful scene this is
What a great film. I first watched it in school 40 years ago...still a masterpiece
A beautiful scene from a beautiful film.
I love this movie and watched it on UA-cam regularly until they yanked it off, forcing me to buy the dvd (haven’t done it yet), all the actors were locals, the Yorkshire dialect was hard to understand but I understood most of it, all the performances were terrific, felt so bad for Billy, the only time he was ever happy is when he was with Kes, you can see how animated he is just talking about his passion. It’s a shame more people don’t know about this classic film.
I’m from Barnsley where this is filmed, I was born early 80’s and to this day, we still talk like this 😊
I simply love the performance from the kid who plays the protagonist
This film is a true masterpiece,shines a light on the the plight of the impoverished oop north,i can so relate to everything about this wonderful film,i was at a comprehensive school the same time as this film is set,just a beautiful piece of cinema history.👏👏👏🏴🏴🏴
Makes me cry! 35 with 2 kids from the west midlands xxxx
Tipton bloke here, me too.
I was born in 1962 and we had this film shown in primary school. Naturally, the ending was a very sad one for an eight or nine year old.
What a performance from all in the class. Ive got it on VHS and am itching to dig out my machine....!
You can get it on DVD bud, as I have the movie on that format... I haven't watched it in years, but a really good film.
Fantastic film that stirred more than a few memories up in me, I can tell thee!!!
Just incredible acting from all in this scene❤️ Ken Loaches documentary style makes it feel real👍
This gets better with age if you take the time to watch it properly.
One of the finest British films made.
What struck me was the tension between institutions and freedom. The teacher bosses Billy in class but is under Billy’s authority in the field.
When Judd kills the bird we see it again. Money and institution clashing with something more beautiful.
The film reminds me of childhood, bizarre schools and the urge for freedom. For me it was punk and heavy metal that suggested a way out. This is an important and beautiful film.
Farthing were great to Billy in book. Pure relationship between the two, Farthing like the dad Billy lost, both only faintly aware of the connection at best. Lovely
Not like a film . Hard to appreciate they are actors . Just seems like a slice of life , a documentary even . Incredible film , incredible acting .
I can remember the same thing happening to me at school in 1981.was made to stand up in front of class for not listening.i was mad on training and hunting my ferrets lurchers and terrier's.after made my speech got a round of applause from the class and got given a can of Fanta from my teacher..what a great film..
We did this book when I was at school. The book is called "A Kestrel for a Knave" and it was by Barry Hines - though we still called it "Kes" because most of us had seen the movie. In the book the character of the kid is a lot more developed.
Best scene I've ever encountered in my whole life; includes: dreams, daily life and hallucinations.
Feel sorry for Billy Casper, constantly belittled and talked down to by his teaches as being stupid and won't ever amount to anything in his life and comes from a toxic home.
No wonder why he misbehaves most of the time and gets into mischief.
The kestrel was the only comfort in his life where he felt at ease and at peace.
Absolutely brilliant film a true classic 💯
Definitely is.. Time we're hard back then..
I have ordered this on DVD I cannot wait till it comes through the post
the best haircuts I saw in a movie and great performances of course :)
I like your film is the best in the world 🌎🌎
Very relatable scene. Excellent film.
SUPERB.
This is probably my favourite scene of the whole film. The whole classroom including the teacher are hanging on Billy’s every word
He had his moment to shine....to get some positive attention for himself.....yet it was selfless, it wasn't about him...he wanted to talk about the Kestrel.
It is a beautiful moment in cinema.
Bless him little angel ❤
god, that was pure art, it was full of emotion
Ha that's my mother at 2.45 asking Billy a question lol
Where's your mam now?, really interested !
no way, really? :) x wow :) so cool.... hehe
That was so natural. It's ether your Mum being a very good actor or Loach knew *exactly* what he was doing. None of this scene feels forced or scripted.
@@judithfurmston3731 They used a lot of real pupils rather than young actors.
If you're still there, ( twelve years later), tell me something of her life history, would you: and say hello.
Masterpiece
Kes and 400 Blows are the two masterpieces in cinema about growing up. If he never makes another film to equal the legend of Kes, David (Dai) Bradley should know that no actor with an ounce of sense would dare even dreaming of doing a remake. Kes is and will always be Bradleys film, whilst taking nothing away from the great Loach.
Other great films about kids include Pather Panchali, My Childhood (Bill Douglas), Spirit of the Beehive, Alice in the Cities...
Fully agreed. Kes and The 400 Blows are both masterpiece coming-of-age stories. Both are in the same rarefied company. I've yet to see an American film do this well. What we seem to get is adult nostalgia about growing up (Stand by Me), or lowest common denominator pandering (ET). But the the "real" experience of growing up, with all of its pain, confusion, ennui, energy and sorrow - is rarely seen, except in European films. I wish I knew the answer why.
To be fair, I feel like Todd Solondz, Gus van Sant, Noah Baumbach, Greta Gerwig and Richard Linklater -- to name a few -- have dealt with themes around growing up in the USA in a non-mawkish manner.
i never realized how much casper loved that bird 🦅
I highly recommend reading the book "A Kestrel for a Knave" by Barry Hines on which the film was based. The story runs slightly differently to the film and is a great little book.
I was lucky to have Barry Hines come to our school for a talk about Kes back in the day, our teacher was from the Barnsley area and knew him, wonderful film and what a privalige it was to have the author of the original book come to speak in our class.
Beautiful
Proper Yorkshire talk.. great film
What a masterpiece of a film.
Just over a minute and a half was cut from this scene. Who by and why I have no idea. The original version has not been seen in years. Thankfully, I have the missing bit from this scene in my collection. It should never have been cut.
Yes, I noticed that change as well, as they're showing this film currently on Channel 4. So frustrating when they cut scenes to pieces like that!
@@musicloverlondon6070 I have just uploaded the missing bit to UA-cam. It is from a betamax tape from when the film was shown uncut in the 1980's.
Beautiful, and because its real. Billy isnt used to being centre of attention but overcomes his nerves to talk about a subject he knows about. Billys mates who give him a bad time normally are hanging on his every word.
Just a pity the " cut" part of this scene, where Tibbut asks Billy about birds mating ( and Billy turns the qeustion back on him superbly, even Colin Welland is in stitches) isnt in this.
Superbly done as is the rest of this film.
brilliant
Great parody in League of Gentlemen where Dr Chinnery the Vet releases the Hawk and it flies straight into an Electricity Pylon 😂
It's a joy to hear those rich Yorkshire accents that are sometimes difficult to understand. I think that's changing now & English regional accents are becoming homogenised or developing into ugly urban street slang like here in London.☹
C'mon Kes!!!!....c'mon las.
The hawk that was used in the film actually belonged to captain Robert nairac the legendary guards captain murdered by the IRA who’s body was never found
We read this book at school. Our English teacher mr Jones was from Yorkshire. I love the football match with Brian Glover. Very sad when Judd kills Kes though. 😢
And they did actually kill the bird to get a reaction from Billy .
Classic film
Karl Pilkington brought me here.
How do you spell that?
D-i-l-k-i-n-g-t-o-n
Film 4 on Tuesday 17th September 2024 at 1.05am.
This boy reminds me of me
My very first job cane tester everyday six of the best
Look at Kes missing scene. If you can get the full version you will never go back. I cannot watch the dubbed watered down version. It is very rare and I think officially unavailable with the full length version of this scene it’s only a couple of mins but makes a difference. Look at Kes The Missing Scene on UA-cam. Also some versions have the voices dubbed by the original actors who do not speak that way. Yorkshire is a language as is Geordie etc.
Why they cut the scene out about does it lay eggs I don't know
This is filmed at my old secondary school that no longer exists now
Which school was it
"It's when... 'e gets me 'ead, 'e puts one 'and on the back and one on the front, and then 'e sort of swivels it."
"Swivel, write that down."
S Q U O Z E
I'm Doncaster . I have family in Barnsley . BARNSLEY FILM . only south Yorkshire truly get. Apart from Rotherham . There into young , but not birds .
I got reet mad wi mesen 😂 proper yorkshire
@Netherhallmedia It's better than thee anyroad!!
Craiiiig daaaavid
This film should be shown in all universities up and down the country, it used to be studied when I was at school but for some reason now days white privilege seems to get banded around quite a lot, not a lot has changed.
Brilliant movie but read the book .
He did it again, he squoze me ‘ed
KES THIS IN 1969
VERY GOOD
GREAT 10 OF 10
GEOFFREY REDDISH
STOCKPORT CHESHIRE
Well said mate. I was born in Reddish, live in Marple now.
Ist ein guter Film
If you can get the full length version. Thicker accent and this scene is longer and funnier.
better than the any ruard
Brilliant
I’m auditioning day after tomorrow for Billy. HELP HIW DO YOU DO THIS YORKSHIRE ACCENT?!
How'd it go?
@@Justanotherperson_01 got the role. Play then got cancelled due to covid.
Clever boy
Remove the kestrel and that was my childhood.
Squoze - that’s a new word to me!
4:55 and 5:15 for the win
megusta
Awesome film..but if anyone reads this comment please answer my question....The boy talking about the hawk...is this the same guy that starred in Aliens. I mean the 1st Film..older obviously....you the guy in the 1st Alien film where hes on hid back on the dinner table after eating what looked like noodles and a alien burst out of his chest and grew into a full adult alien and killed all the crew except Segorny weaver (cant spell her name)...so either that or he just looks the same but i think both films were early to mid 70's so actually maybe its not..
brooky bond No but it’s a good think as the two are similar and this was very perceptive of you. The guy in Alien is John Hurt, a famous actor. The young boy talking about the hawk is David Bradley, talking with a very broad Barnsley accent. If you you tube his name he doesn’t talk like that now. He’s very polite and softly spoken.
The PE teacher in Kes is Brian Glove who did star in the Alien movie.
Type in Kes football scene and you will see Brian Glover as the PE teacher wearing the red tracksuit. The football scene is hillarious.
When teachers were teachers
ayyy
erghhh GCSE English Literature 1986!!! Got a "B"
Can't had. GCSE was not a thing until 1987.
a ray of hope....then they SNATCH it away