We Got Mark Cavendish’s Power Data, Can We Keep Up?

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024

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  • @gcn
    @gcn  Рік тому +8

    Do you think you could survive a Tour de France stage? Let us know 👇

    • @FixedundFertig
      @FixedundFertig Рік тому +5

      ​@@erzhaideragreed 😅
      those wattage numbers didn't look that much... until you know how those numbers feel 😂
      And for 5 hours over 200 watts straight is REALLY HARD work for a "normal" Cyclist 😅
      I do that for max 2 Hours ( WITHOUT intervals ^^ ) and then my legs BURN 😂

    • @adiros9226
      @adiros9226 Рік тому +1

      on the couch with beer in my hand :)

    • @1269Dondude
      @1269Dondude Рік тому

      I would get dropped, which is a shame because I have a 934 watt 15 second sprint at 5’6 65 kilos. But I only have 250 watt 60 min power. I could complete any stage eventually though 🤣

    • @salamipitza
      @salamipitza Рік тому +1

      my power output is around 2.5w per kilo

    • @delivrance3961
      @delivrance3961 Рік тому +1

      if it's a prologue, no problem!!!

  • @tobiasbouma4071
    @tobiasbouma4071 Рік тому +115

    Would love to see van Aert's numbers, he's no small guy but climbing like a featherweight

    • @tadziu2400
      @tadziu2400 Рік тому +9

      Probably FTP close to 500

    • @chrisd6736
      @chrisd6736 Рік тому

      ⁠do we know FTP for TP or JV?

    • @markhumus-js7xz
      @markhumus-js7xz Рік тому +7

      @@tadziu2400 no way, he's 78kg, that'd put his FTP at 6.4 W/kg - he'd be demolishing Pog/Kuss/Jonas on the long climbs with that. More like 450-460W.

    • @tadziu2400
      @tadziu2400 Рік тому +3

      @@markhumus-js7xz Jonas is holding 7W/kg for the whole climb

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому +21

      We're not sure we want to see those numbers... it'll make us all feel bad 😂

  • @ClementAllen
    @ClementAllen Рік тому +88

    Missed a prime opportunity to title this "We Got Mark Cavendish's Power Data, Do We Have Watt it Takes to Keep Up?"

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому +9

      Bad dum Shhhh 🥁 A pun fit for Dan himself 🙌

    • @John-dh1gh
      @John-dh1gh 8 місяців тому +1

      Or can we lose the Kgs to even be relevant.

  • @Norm0770
    @Norm0770 Рік тому +37

    When talk of W/kg comes about I'm at a disadvantage by weight, at 100 kg, but it makes calculating my W/kg to two decimal places super easy!

  • @TheJanvicgwaps
    @TheJanvicgwaps Рік тому +9

    How about get the data of Jonas's TT run cause that one was so wild

  • @schaeferdev
    @schaeferdev Рік тому +33

    are you sure about the 310w threshhold? That doesn't seem right, even as a sprinter there is no way I would have expected him under 5w/kg especially considering he is one of the smaller guys

    • @edgarsk
      @edgarsk Рік тому +2

      Something clearly does not add up between screenshots and whats told, but his threshold is no way near 5w/kg

    • @romeeees
      @romeeees Рік тому +21

      You can get his threshold out of his data @2:00 . With an IF of 0.77 and a NP of 270 W his logged FTP in this file is 350 W.

    • @ellie0667
      @ellie0667 Рік тому +5

      Exactly this, the headline figure of 310 is a typo.
      If you then look at his NP of 270w odd for 5 hrs and use ftp of 353 then the TSS seen in training peaks tallies correctly. If his was lower, then the numbers don’t correlate correctly.

    • @schaeferdev
      @schaeferdev Рік тому +4

      ah yeah I didn't look at the TP data in detail, good catch! I was super confused when they said "310w threshhold" in the video.
      350w makes much more sense and would put him pretty much bang on 5w/kg :)

    • @philipk4475
      @philipk4475 Рік тому +3

      Does GCN have editors who do more than add funky music and actually check stuff?

  • @murtheblur33
    @murtheblur33 Рік тому +1

    Great video! The effort of the TDF riders is incredible. The thumbnail image for this video could even be "Watt does it take?" !

  • @Bluesman2509
    @Bluesman2509 Рік тому +1

    With regards to the comments below Cav's FTP MUST be at the 350w mark, I.e. 4.9-5 wkg. That is still absolutely ballistic speed uphill compared to 99% of amateurs.

  • @PixelVibe42
    @PixelVibe42 Рік тому +1

    IF (Intensity Factor) of 0.71 - so those 5 hours at race pace didn't really destroy him! Amazing.

    • @tobiasgreven254
      @tobiasgreven254 Рік тому

      I can be wrong, but I believe intensity factor is the normalized power of the ride as a percentage of your FTP. So rides over an hour are per definition at a lower intensity factor.

  • @annabelmills6519
    @annabelmills6519 Рік тому +6

    It would be great to get a similar video for a tour de France femmes stage!

  • @davidhughson189
    @davidhughson189 Рік тому

    What ~ putting Connors (Training Peaks, next to Marks?). ONE OF THE BEST REVIEWS!! A list of the climbs & who has the KOM’s in these particular climbs please

  • @tonmtbcomic9066
    @tonmtbcomic9066 Рік тому +1

    I just love Hanks glasses when he put them on lol

  • @julendelrio
    @julendelrio Рік тому

    You should have come to San Sebastian in person to film this vid. Maybe for the Klasika? 👀 you would be very welcome lads

  • @pcdude2394
    @pcdude2394 Рік тому +8

    Each of Mark Cavendish’s thigh is about the size of his torso. Nothing but pure power

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому +1

      A true legend of the sport 🙌

  • @williamsundkvist69
    @williamsundkvist69 Рік тому +1

    Try matching jonas TT numbers

  • @benoittheminerandgamer
    @benoittheminerandgamer Рік тому +1

    There something wrong with this DATA 5h09min at 270w NP for 2.33w/kg This is not true? That mean Mark weight is 115.88kg ( 270/2.33) is at 70kg for 1m75. Help me understand this DATA.

    • @benelumbaugh8928
      @benelumbaugh8928 Рік тому

      Average w/kg on TrainingPeaks is taken by dividing average power by weight, not normalized power

  • @shamendra.sakthivel
    @shamendra.sakthivel Рік тому

    9:52 Is it just me or is Connor going for some Tadej tuft looks🤔🤔

  • @Deepak19944
    @Deepak19944 Рік тому

    Why are the subtitles not working anymore? Please take a look at it

  • @davidhughson189
    @davidhughson189 Рік тому

    What was Connor’s wattage on final sprint?

  • @ynotnilknarf39
    @ynotnilknarf39 Рік тому +3

    Getting a puncture on tubeless, something you push to the max, yet get left to sort it so you can't complete the section, absolute comedy gold!

  • @timvanmonero2720
    @timvanmonero2720 Рік тому

    i'm so confused about this 250W for an hour to be hard. in races we (the faster ones) holed 270W+ for 2-2:15 hour splits and then run a half marathon 🤷🤷 :D

  • @Crowey72
    @Crowey72 Рік тому +1

    Hanks headset is half the size of Connors l😂

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому +2

      It's not all about size 😉

  • @Gouranga552
    @Gouranga552 Рік тому

    What happened to Hank?

  • @triscuitbiscuit
    @triscuitbiscuit Рік тому +2

    Can someone fix Hank’s helmet strap please? 😅

    • @yuumbaalam
      @yuumbaalam Рік тому

      That was also my thought

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому

      He just loves being different 😂

  • @chrismadge7292
    @chrismadge7292 Рік тому +1

    310w at threshold (FTP) - that isnt right, hes going to have a bigger ftp than that

    • @swites
      @swites Рік тому

      Yep, apparently its 350w or so which makes more sense.

  • @MrPeterfreeston
    @MrPeterfreeston Рік тому

    What going on where’s the subtitles?

  • @philadams9254
    @philadams9254 Рік тому

    9:32 - Is mark's fitness score only 22? I find that hard to believe

    • @cornishalps9870
      @cornishalps9870 Рік тому +2

      I'm pretty sure it's someone else's account as if you look at the 5s power it is a second best of the year/alltime which at 860w is highly unlikely considering his peak power is 1600w.

  • @toozydude2
    @toozydude2 Рік тому +2

    Cmon, Connor doing 289 W for 25min is easy... he is probably 80kg!

    • @Tommi462
      @Tommi462 Рік тому +1

      I was also wondering if that was another mistake like the Cavendish FTP one, because that didn't sound like it would be that tough for him. I'm a relative beginner cyclist and I did 280W average for a 90min ride the other day, with the best 20min average being 309W. And I wasn't really hurting myself doing that either. Going hard, yes. Granted, I'm much heavier than Conor at around 100kg, but still. Conor's an ex-pro and I'm an ex-fatso who got off the sofa 3 years ago.
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    • @alaefarmestatesllc
      @alaefarmestatesllc Рік тому

      He’s 100kg.

    • @toozydude2
      @toozydude2 Рік тому

      @@alaefarmestatesllc actually??

    • @alaefarmestatesllc
      @alaefarmestatesllc Рік тому

      @@toozydude2 he’s 6’8

  • @peterfireflylund
    @peterfireflylund Рік тому

    "No. The end." Shortest video ever.

  • @timvanmonero2720
    @timvanmonero2720 Рік тому

    206W/2.33W/KG = 88KG? 👀👀❓❓⁉⁉❓❓

  • @Gmh6477
    @Gmh6477 Рік тому

    Considering cavendish is well past it and has been declining for a few yrs it’s scary to think what The top 5 are doing

    • @imacfubu
      @imacfubu Рік тому +3

      He won 4 stages in 2021 and had the fastest top speed in two sprints this year

    • @stevemawer848
      @stevemawer848 Рік тому +1

      You need a dose of reality, mate. Philipsen only beat him because Cav's gears were slipping. Yeah, well past it. Fool.

  • @brentgaul2760
    @brentgaul2760 Рік тому +1

    No no no no. Nope. Global Cycling? Stop with this Cav BS. This show is clearly a British Cycling Network. Just stop.

  • @mbastos1000
    @mbastos1000 Рік тому

    BS!!!! He increased the size of the tip to make people spend extra lubricant and buy again sooner! Thief!

  • @douglasbooth6836
    @douglasbooth6836 Рік тому +1

    He’s not a living legend. Nobody outside of cycling knows who he is.

    • @alaefarmestatesllc
      @alaefarmestatesllc Рік тому +5

      That goes for most elite athletes. Michael Phelps/lance Armstrong are the minorities

    • @Morhaw
      @Morhaw Рік тому +2

      Apart from the fact that in the UK he’s quite well known because the BBC cream themselves over him

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому +6

      We disagree, Mark is one of the household names that go beyond our sport.

    • @douglasbooth6836
      @douglasbooth6836 Рік тому +1

      @@gcn nobody out of cycling knows his name. Sorry.

    • @douglasbooth6836
      @douglasbooth6836 Рік тому

      @@alaefarmestatesllc usian bolt, Muhammad Ali? Tyson?

  • @damiramilojevic9180
    @damiramilojevic9180 Рік тому

    ok

  • @ElouanGardon
    @ElouanGardon Рік тому

    Is this a joke?

  • @Smaug1
    @Smaug1 Рік тому +5

    You guys need some new topics. Comparing yourselves (keen cyclists though you are) to TDF athletes is always going to come out with the GCN staff woefully inadequate. Check your egos. Here are two TDF-themed ideas:
    1) What happens to the idiot spectators who clip riders and cause accidents in the TDF? What's the penalty?
    2) Why are the spectators allowed on the road itself? (seeing as how they cause accidents EVERY year)

    • @mace9770
      @mace9770 Рік тому +13

      Is everything ok at home?

    • @fabioqueiros9322
      @fabioqueiros9322 Рік тому +2

      @@mace9770clearly not

    • @cschmitz
      @cschmitz Рік тому

      "why are the spectators allowed on the road itself" think about how long the tour de France is distance wise and then think about how you'd possibly keep spectators off of that entire route. My guess is that it's not for a lack of desire or trying, it's just an impossible ask.

    • @High_Octane
      @High_Octane Рік тому

      I thought this was great, check your commenting worth…

  • @tankbirdfinder6219
    @tankbirdfinder6219 Рік тому +2

    Please clarify, Mark Cavendish agreed to this yes? Very simply, he owns that data, it's his, not training peaks. You did get permission? I'm confident you'd respect this basic respect requirement, but I'd like you to state it with no room for interpretation. Please.

    • @kingpinuk880
      @kingpinuk880 Рік тому +9

      Yes they clearly hacked his data illegally and made a video about it....c'mon man

    • @FoobsTon
      @FoobsTon Рік тому

      Why?

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому +3

      Hi there, we can assure you that all necessary permissions were gathered before creating this video. We hope you enjoyed it! Mark is a beast... we've got a new found respect for him 🥵

    • @edt6488
      @edt6488 Рік тому +1

      @tankbirdfinder6219 And where's your apology to GCN?

    • @stevemawer848
      @stevemawer848 Рік тому

      @@edt6488 No apology needed - he just asked GCN to confirm that nothiung underhand was going on, which they have. @kingpinuk880 is the one who should apologise before he gets sued for libel.

  • @SwanWillTearYouApart
    @SwanWillTearYouApart Рік тому

    would be cool to convert this to a . fit / .zwo file based on % of Marks FTP so we could try it

  • @billmccaffrey1977
    @billmccaffrey1977 Рік тому +7

    Here is a Tour question/problem that needs to be addressed: So far, so called fans have directly caused two accidents and some injuries, then today a dumb ass team car almost took out the leader causing him to lose critical secs in the middle of a tough climb. Fans have made it impossible for riders to pass as they barely leave enough room for single file. I don't know how the riders keep from wanting to drive the team bus through the lot of them. It is harassment to the riders and an embarrassment to the sport.

    • @peterfireflylund
      @peterfireflylund Рік тому +1

      The car couldn't move because there was a stopped motorcycle right in front of it... and the place was so packed with "fans" that it was hard to solve the situation.

    • @stevemawer848
      @stevemawer848 Рік тому

      @@peterfireflylund And it was an ASO car, not a "dumb ass team car". People should use their eyes instead of their fingers.

  • @cb6866
    @cb6866 Рік тому +6

    Thanks Conor , James , and crew.......yeah , good effort !!

  • @TiagoMorbusSa
    @TiagoMorbusSa Рік тому +5

    What two pals, great ride.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому

      Riding with pals is always great fun! 🙌

  • @stevemead6862
    @stevemead6862 Рік тому +1

    but cavendish is on the hot sauce 1000.000%

  • @xcskiing_universe
    @xcskiing_universe Рік тому

    310 w threshold is just ridiculously bad for being a pro. No doubt what Mark was made for: that is sprinting and not endurance. I wonder how low his absolute and relative vo2 max is as well. I believe right now it’s almost as bad as a football-player.

  • @alinapopescu872
    @alinapopescu872 Рік тому +6

    The only thing I understand is that we are roasting at 37-38 degrees Celsius 🥵 and you over there are nice and cool. 😇

    • @kanraku6129
      @kanraku6129 Рік тому

      11° when I went for a run this morning, that's not even cool it's bloody /cold/!

    • @alinapopescu872
      @alinapopescu872 Рік тому

      @@kanraku6129 🥶🥶🥶 True! My goodness....

  • @alanchorley
    @alanchorley Рік тому

    c'mon @gcn - a bit more accuracy with the data please. Cav's FTP stated at 310 W, yet the screenshots would allow FTP to be calculated at 350 W. So either the 310 W statement was wrong, or the displayed data was loaded onto somebody else's account with a different FTP. If that was the case the FTP needed to be set to Cav's 310 W to avoid the normalised power and TSS readings referred to being incorrect. Whilst on the subject of NP, it's not power "discounting the zero watts when you're not pedalling", it is an (unvalidated) mathematical estimate of what could have been done if a constant effort had been maintained.

  • @robertwaldren6206
    @robertwaldren6206 Рік тому

    Great video, but I sure wish you had closed captioning on all your videos. According to the World Health Organization, "...Currently more than 1.5 billion people (nearly 20% of the global population) live with hearing loss; 430 million of them have disabling hearing loss." I'm sure you have many viewers who would appreciate closed captioning on all of your content, whether on UA-cam or GCN+. Thanks for your consideration.

  • @Vokunos
    @Vokunos Рік тому

    well yeah... i could "survive" tour de france stages. i think i would even have an fun time... but would i also need atleast double the time ? yes haha.

  • @KorbensBum
    @KorbensBum Рік тому

    Bike vault this week was an absolute enjoyable shambles.

  • @rogersimmons8788
    @rogersimmons8788 Рік тому

    No.