Optimising a Trebuchet

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  • Trebuchets are pretty complex machines to get right! Having said that, this is a relatively basic design in comparison to many other modern designs (check out The Hurl wiki to see more thehurl.wikidot.com/trebuchet:....
    Basically my aim for this was to build the most efficient trebuchet whilst sticking to a basic fixed axle frame. There are more efficient trebuchets out there, such as the MURLIN style, but in terms of ease of build, this is the closest you will get to a traditional trebuchet!
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  • @rickhapstley3866
    @rickhapstley3866 5 років тому +1150

    Today, I discovered a man who builds trebuchets in his garden for fun.
    This is fantastic.

    • @blizzardstr
      @blizzardstr 4 роки тому +16

      His neighbours aren't that happy

    • @nissimtrifonov5314
      @nissimtrifonov5314 4 роки тому +18

      Well I'd be surprised if I discovered someone who's building these things for something other than fun

    • @blizzardstr
      @blizzardstr 4 роки тому +1

      Germans may be?

    • @McRoos
      @McRoos 4 роки тому

      Exactly my thought, one year later!

    • @dshanh5494
      @dshanh5494 3 роки тому

      @@nissimtrifonov5314 Wanna know something fun?I watch this video for my pathetic engineering project.

  • @Isaacreeper
    @Isaacreeper 4 роки тому +1725

    Imagine getting hit by a tennis ball at 104 miles per hour that was shot from a homemade trebuchet 300 meters away.

    • @David-vo1rl
      @David-vo1rl 4 роки тому +175

      Did you just use both metric and retarded system in one sentence?

    • @GielL96
      @GielL96 4 роки тому +52

      @@David-vo1rl 'retarded system' lmao

    • @frankzaffuto3670
      @frankzaffuto3670 4 роки тому +28

      @@GielL96 well it IS Imperial

    • @brandonbenjamin9452
      @brandonbenjamin9452 4 роки тому +25

      David the original comment is how many of us Canadians would talk too.. imperial is often used in dialogue and in construction, and then we use the more accurate system for real math

    • @Brooke-rw8rc
      @Brooke-rw8rc 4 роки тому +21

      @@David-vo1rl Please don't use that word. Besides, it's the British Imperial system, ergo from the British Royal Family. "Inbred system" would be far more accurate.

  • @a-drewg1716
    @a-drewg1716 4 роки тому +469

    You be talking some mad shit for being someone 300 meters from me.

    • @furinick
      @furinick 4 роки тому +11

      You talking mad shit for 90km projectile range of 300m

  • @dinorancher5560
    @dinorancher5560 5 років тому +912

    I am watching this with my dog. She is looking at me like I need to get to work building this superior fetch engine.

    • @heyhoe168
      @heyhoe168 5 років тому +12

      feed the poor thing.

    • @WelcomeToMyDream
      @WelcomeToMyDream 5 років тому +14

      LMAO @ "fetch engine" :)

    • @user-vp1yr2cv9g
      @user-vp1yr2cv9g 5 років тому +14

      Go fetch the 90kg projectile over 300m

    • @jonathanallard2128
      @jonathanallard2128 5 років тому

      The dog would lose sight of them.

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 5 років тому +12

      Launch the dog..... I bet there has never been a dog fetching a ball that fast... ever! xD

  • @vincentrobinette1507
    @vincentrobinette1507 5 років тому +64

    You've got one thing absolutely right. An ideal trebuchet launch would be where the machine came to a complete rest, upon the release of the projectile. That last throw looked like you sent 75% or better of the potential energy of the weight away with the tennis ball. It becomes more tricky, as the weight ratio between the counter weight and the projectile weight becomes greater. That looks like a great design for the World Punkin Chunkin Championship event in Sussex County, in Delaware. If you consider this, note that the pumpkins MUST weigh more than 8 pounds, but less than 10 pounds. (3.63 Kg to 4.54 Kg) The idea is to see who can throw a pumpkin the farthest. Trebuchet is one of the classes of launchers recognized by that event.

  • @ryanm.191
    @ryanm.191 6 років тому +3200

    Are you planning and equipping yourself for a crusade?
    Can I join?

    • @firebirdaviation5074
      @firebirdaviation5074 6 років тому +159

      Ryan M.
      Deus Vult

    • @peterbuckles2711
      @peterbuckles2711 6 років тому +44

      I’m in

    • @kobesedg23
      @kobesedg23 6 років тому +95

      we will take Jerusalem my friends

    • @christiangeiselmann
      @christiangeiselmann 6 років тому +57

      I think the idea is to take down those annoying, noisy airplanes that fly over his otherwise beautiful garden.

    • @zogworth
      @zogworth 6 років тому +32

      I think Tom's crusade may involve Wimbledon rather than Jerusalem

  • @markwalters2287
    @markwalters2287 4 роки тому +1611

    Unbelievable that a professional tennis player can serve faster than this.

    • @57thorns
      @57thorns 4 роки тому +246

      Tennis rackets are extremely efficient at sending energy into tennis balls, so effective that tennis rackets are strung "too hard" to improve accuracy over speed and they still achieve these speed.
      Also consider if you could lift 15 kg 1.5 meters in half a second? I am pretty sure you can, and without hurting yourself. Weight lifters doing snatch achieves speeds of about 2 m/s, so the lift from floor to above head would take about 1.5 seconds but those weight are far more than 15 kg.
      And if you use your legs, you can probably jump at least one meter into the air, which is a decent amount of energy applied in a very short time.

    • @mucpougaming6092
      @mucpougaming6092 4 роки тому +101

      @@57thorns basically,we just need some heavier counter weights.

    • @dicasdavida2315
      @dicasdavida2315 4 роки тому +2

      Fala direito porra

    • @LPHayes-pw1gv
      @LPHayes-pw1gv 4 роки тому +2

      @@dicasdavida2315 O povo aqui não sabe escrever. Parece que não aprenderam portugês na escola. Nossa educação é um lixo mesmo.

    • @1AmTheStig
      @1AmTheStig 4 роки тому +43

      @@57thorns I see the point you're trying to make but jump 1 meter into the air? Very VERY few people can jump one meter into the air.

  • @altimking
    @altimking 5 років тому +445

    nice!! I would like to know....
    1. Do you ever see any of the Tennis Balls again?
    2. how far do the Tennis Balls fly?
    3. how far would a heavy projectile fly?
    4. can you aim for my neighbor next time?

    • @thedude4795
      @thedude4795 5 років тому +14

      u need quick mafs

    • @MrMilitoso
      @MrMilitoso 4 роки тому +41

      You can launch your 90kg tennis balls 300m away

    • @digdigktn
      @digdigktn 4 роки тому +6

      this construct doesnt work with heavy weights/projectiles, because you'd have to get those weights on top of this bullshit construct with his bullshit method.

    • @p529.
      @p529. 4 роки тому +32

      @@digdigktn lol what? Just check the Colossal Thunder trebuchet. They have the same system and can charge it with a pulley

    • @matthewscarpetti1313
      @matthewscarpetti1313 4 роки тому +26

      @@digdigktn I'd like to see you do better. Realy.

  • @ReviewEdge
    @ReviewEdge 6 років тому +1488

    But can it launch a 90 kg projectile over 300 meters?

    • @lordvalen8133
      @lordvalen8133 5 років тому +216

      Projections Of course, it's the superior siege engine, after all.

    • @leopold7148
      @leopold7148 5 років тому +20

      I was looking for this 😂😂😂

    • @januzi2
      @januzi2 5 років тому +27

      Damn, Your gf is pretty heavy. Tell her that she should go on a diet or something ;)

    • @metheguy1232
      @metheguy1232 5 років тому +11

      It can launch a 95kg projectile over 305 meters

    • @czd0r
      @czd0r 5 років тому +18

      That is your weight with a parachute, isn't it?

  • @electromaniac03
    @electromaniac03 6 років тому +559

    Imagine having to get that ball after every launch

    • @marcusjoakimsen7078
      @marcusjoakimsen7078 6 років тому +151

      Get a dog.

    • @tin2001
      @tin2001 6 років тому +15

      Marcus Joakimsen
      Or a bulk discount at your local sports shop 😛

    • @TomStantonEngineering
      @TomStantonEngineering  6 років тому +120

      I have a bag of 12 balls, so only have to walk to collect every 12 launches and hope a dog walker hasn't picked them up whilst I'm not watching haha... disclaimer: there is only one guy that walks through that field and I always check before launching ;)

    • @electromaniac03
      @electromaniac03 6 років тому +14

      Ay the mad lad himself aswered

    • @kenhaley4
      @kenhaley4 5 років тому +10

      Why didn't you just put up a big net to catch the tennis balls? I know it's fun to watch how far they go, but chasing them must get old pretty quick.

  • @maf3434
    @maf3434 4 роки тому +404

    one thing is clear, throwing a grenade with this mechanism is dangerous.

    • @krusty6649
      @krusty6649 4 роки тому +22

      na it´s fine. he is doing from a distance relesing with a string.
      Now talking about cooking that grenade is another story

    • @d.m.515
      @d.m.515 4 роки тому +79

      As opposed to throwing a regular grenade, which is perfectly safe....

    • @ravensquote7206
      @ravensquote7206 4 роки тому +4

      -to passing aircraft.

    • @anwarnaveedali4412
      @anwarnaveedali4412 3 роки тому +4

      That's called artillery.

  • @GameCyborgCh
    @GameCyborgCh 4 роки тому +168

    imagine going to an airsoft match and one guy shows up with a trebuchet

  • @LeoFPV
    @LeoFPV 6 років тому +886

    More optimised than PUBG

    • @Arheisel
      @Arheisel 6 років тому +24

      LeoFPV This will hold true unless the trebuchet clipped into the ground and explode

    • @vystaz
      @vystaz 5 років тому +11

      everything is more optimised than PUBG

    • @Reach1335
      @Reach1335 5 років тому +2

      Arma 3 isn't sadly.

    • @MyWaifuNow
      @MyWaifuNow 5 років тому +1

      that bar glitched through the ground and fell all the way down

    • @leocurious9919
      @leocurious9919 5 років тому +1

      @@Reach1335 Now come on, Arma 3 might not be CPU-optimised but the game itself got fixed after the initial (beta?) release. There are hardly any bugs. They didnt keep "every" problem from Beta to 3 years later with lots of random crashes, cheaters etc.

  • @USWaterRockets
    @USWaterRockets 6 років тому +293

    Congratulations on 100K Subs!

    • @TomStantonEngineering
      @TomStantonEngineering  6 років тому +2

      Thanks mate!

    • @janriggert
      @janriggert 6 років тому

      You earned my subscribe with the "hovering rocket" video. Keep on rockin! :D

    • @Zplizor
      @Zplizor 6 років тому +1

      @Jay R check this guy: ua-cam.com/channels/ILl8ozWuxnFYXIe2svjHhg.html

  • @therealdemen247
    @therealdemen247 4 роки тому +137

    Imagine going on your morning walk when all of the sudden, a super sonic tennis ball comes out of nowhere and clocks you up side the head.

    • @blizzardstr
      @blizzardstr 4 роки тому +15

      "Oh, these russian spies again..."

    • @tablett4747
      @tablett4747 4 роки тому +3

      Sounds like instakill from Tennis. *Wii Sports intensifies*

  • @jacquesburger4103
    @jacquesburger4103 Рік тому +4

    I love coming back to your older videos. Seeing that you only had 100k subs vs your 1m subs now and still having the same kind of content is awesome. Keep being you man.

  • @speedrag0n12
    @speedrag0n12 6 років тому +306

    My girlfriend: "honey, why is that 300 kg stone 90 meters away?"
    Me: "uh no reason"

    • @plumpstery5199
      @plumpstery5199 5 років тому +35

      Other way around

    • @karlgiese6100
      @karlgiese6100 5 років тому +38

      It's a 90kg projectile over 300m, you imbecile

    • @RRKS
      @RRKS 5 років тому +7

      @@karlgiese6100 Not sure if it's a meme, or something random. But you can launch 300 kg 90 meters with the right device, i.e how large the trebuchet is.

    • @aspielm759
      @aspielm759 4 роки тому

      I still don’t get that reference.

    • @mamneo2
      @mamneo2 4 роки тому

      I dont get it gg izi

  • @z4zuse
    @z4zuse 6 років тому +111

    Add wheels and mount it on rails. It apparently makes it more efficient

    • @erik6690
      @erik6690 6 років тому +25

      z4zuse this is true. I tested it as a kid. Less energy is transferred to the rotational energy of the swing arm and more is transferred to the forward kinetic energy of the entire system right before the release. Awesome video!

    • @user-sw1vr9sn2g
      @user-sw1vr9sn2g 6 років тому +28

      wheels let the counterweight drop straight down and so you get all the energy without transferring any to the frame and hence the ground.
      [ added advantage . . . you don't mess with the length of the day (firing E/W) or the seasons (firing N/S) ]

    • @The1wsx10
      @The1wsx10 6 років тому +2

      what? that doesn't make sense. each action has an equal and opposite reaction. if there is no normal force, the frame should be moving the other direction.

    • @jasonyoung7705
      @jasonyoung7705 5 років тому +4

      @@The1wsx10 Ive seen this done in other documentaries (years ago), they were firing a trebuchet with the wheels locked and couldnt get decent range, range increases once you let the thing free wheel, since the counter movement of the arm pushed the whole machine forward.

    • @michaelbuckers
      @michaelbuckers 5 років тому +12

      @@The1wsx10 Notice how the frame rocks violently back and forth. This uses up energy. If you let the pivot slide back and forth freely, no energy is used to rock the frame, improving efficiency. The next best thing is letting the entire frame roll back and forth freely, then energy is still used up to move the entire frame, but it's not immediately dissipated as friction against the ground.

  • @akiramasashi9317
    @akiramasashi9317 4 роки тому +31

    Me: You can't improve upon perfection.
    Tom Stanton: Hold my counterweight.

  • @dec1137
    @dec1137 5 років тому +5

    Thanks so much for this video. it was a bit tough for an 8 year old cub scout to follow some of the stuff you said, but the video sure helped show a lot for me to follow along.
    You inspired me to upload video of a whipper trebuchet I built with my dad over the weekend. We use some of your ideas and it worked out well for our 1st little trebuchet project- which I will be using at my cub scout camping trip this weekend. We will be flinging soccer balls!

    • @NutjobwithaMachete
      @NutjobwithaMachete 2 роки тому +1

      I just watched your video. Great job! Made me want to make one too. Thanks for sharing!

  • @meetim2931
    @meetim2931 6 років тому +287

    The big question is, where did all the tennis balls go???

    • @DKTAz00
      @DKTAz00 6 років тому +13

      Without any drag or ball mass, about 220 meters away, at 104mph and 45 degres, but they probably bounced so.... :P *edit, maybe if you did the math for mass and drag it could go to 300 meters

    • @TomStantonEngineering
      @TomStantonEngineering  6 років тому +134

      Tennis balls have a LOT of drag and only land about 80-90m away... a golf ball on the other hand! I tried a golf ball once and it landed 181m away, even after releasing at a really high angle. I'll give it another go once I make a golf ball sized sling!

    • @billcodey1430
      @billcodey1430 6 років тому +19

      That sounds like more video content!

    • @coles8296
      @coles8296 6 років тому +17

      You should try baseballs too.

    • @rayanyounis4069
      @rayanyounis4069 6 років тому +7

      Yeah golf balls fly much further bc of the dimples and turbulent flow! But if dimples reduce drag, why not use them on cars for example? (At least at the back)

  • @christiaanm1900
    @christiaanm1900 6 років тому +178

    Launch a GoPro!!!!!
    Pls

    • @MrRevan991
      @MrRevan991 4 роки тому +9

      go pro and gps unit so it can be recovered

    • @ULinke
      @ULinke 4 роки тому +5

      or a 360 camera!

  • @schz2589
    @schz2589 4 роки тому +3

    I just wanted to say thank you for making such a great video for this! I'm doing a ball-launching project in high school and my group is going to use this design now.

  • @casonscarce978
    @casonscarce978 4 роки тому

    It's very rare ofind a channel that convinces me to subscribe in just 1 video. Congrats for the milestone and keep up the awesome work!

  • @kustomweb
    @kustomweb 6 років тому +15

    Love that whipping sound

  • @bashkillszombies
    @bashkillszombies 5 років тому +341

    I bet this pulls women like crazy.

    • @heyhoe168
      @heyhoe168 5 років тому +6

      Powder guns are more effective anyway.

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 5 років тому +2

      Considering he's a pimp with a dozen women under his spell... why yes, it does!! ;D

    • @belliott538
      @belliott538 4 роки тому +2

      Chicks Dig Long Poles...
      -Some Lonely Fisherman

    • @azz2
      @azz2 4 роки тому +2

      Hard to say, it's a pull/push sort of mechanism. I guess it's pulls them to begin with then pushes them away as efficiently as possible.

    • @SineEyed
      @SineEyed 4 роки тому

      Only the young ones..

  • @MightyFineMan
    @MightyFineMan Рік тому +12

    After seeing many of your videos over the years, I associate this channel being one of the engineering highlights of the internet.

  • @whoever6458
    @whoever6458 Рік тому

    And now you're over a million subs! Makes sense considering all the awesome videos! Keep up the good work!

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 6 років тому +5

    Amazing work, dude... Just... Fantastic! 😀
    And congrats for the 100k subscribers! Now let's get another 100k! 😊

  • @CNCKitchen
    @CNCKitchen 6 років тому +53

    Awesome work as always! Congrats on 100k subscribers!

    • @theheadone
      @theheadone 6 років тому +2

      I'm sure you'll get there as well with your fantastic content :)

    • @TomStantonEngineering
      @TomStantonEngineering  6 років тому +3

      Thanks man! You'll be at 100k soon for sure!!

  • @maxcaysey2844
    @maxcaysey2844 5 років тому

    This trebuchet project is the best! I really hope you plan on doing some more videos on this trebuchet! Its great!!!

  • @nuarius
    @nuarius 5 років тому +1

    Channels like this always make me jealous. I absolutely love this kind of stuff, I just do not have the resources required to support it (tools and materials).
    awesome video! and grats

  • @Scooot1972
    @Scooot1972 5 років тому +136

    If you put wheels on the bottom of the frame on all four corners facing the way the projectile is the wait only has to travel down and not backwards as well. It sounds counter intuitive but it works, most of the energy goes into throwing the projectiles rather than fighting with the frame. The wait goes straight down and the frame rocks back and fourth so less energy is wasted. Please try it and post the results. The ball will go higher, further and travel faster.

    • @kevinbaboolal4225
      @kevinbaboolal4225 4 роки тому +1

      Huh that sounds interesting

    • @mystic_tacos
      @mystic_tacos 4 роки тому +7

      Yes, this makes a lot of sense actually. Besides the transporting of them, cannons had wheels for a similar purpose I believe. It is akin to the recoil effect of guns. If a handgun/rifle/shotgun is not "allowed" to jump back the shot fires the projectile and, to use Scott's word, fights the gun frame. If the frame is allowed to free flow upon firing... Well. lol
      NOT a very good or scientific comparison there but it does make sense (if you are me I guess lol). In order for energy to perform proficiently, it can't (shouldn't?) be bound.

    • @bumpercoach
      @bumpercoach 4 роки тому +4

      proved it for my sons science project using
      a Kinex frame and motor wound up the same
      for throws 1- base held down 2- base not held
      and 3- base on wheels... as well as using
      the slide frames under the C2 rowing erg
      (and not) for blind power-10s

    • @joshua43214
      @joshua43214 4 роки тому +16

      @@mystic_tacos This is all wrong.
      Field cannon had wheels for moving. The draw tang would be set on the ground to prevent them from rolling under fire.
      Stationary and ship mounted cannon had wheels so they could be pulled back for reloading.
      Bullets do not "fight the gun frame." Any motion of the gun reduces the muzzle velocity. A gun will only have recoil damping if it is powerful enough to damage itself when used. Soft gripping a semi-automatic handgun will actually cause it to jamb. handguns and rifles are always gripped as tightly and as rigidly as possible. Artillery will often have recoil damping to protect the frame.

    • @coachvolpato
      @coachvolpato 4 роки тому +8

      Weight. Not wait.

  • @MatthijsvanDuin
    @MatthijsvanDuin 5 років тому +18

    2:20 Energy is proportional to velocity squared, so your energy transfer efficiency here is only 26%, not 51%
    If you want to see a _really_ optimized trebuchet, look up the video "Development of a Dynamically Tuned MURLIN Trebuchet"

  • @aquaholich2051
    @aquaholich2051 2 роки тому

    Tom, just found this off the back off Tods recent vlogs . Absolute pleasure to watch, something deeply satisfying in Trebuchets and tinkering 👌

  • @flyingark173
    @flyingark173 4 роки тому

    Tom, I doubt you'll see this on such an old video, but I just have to say that I'm newer to your work and looking through old videos and just thought it was great to hear your enthusiasm at having 100k subs now that you have over 350k. You so deserve it, these videos are just awesome!

  • @iamkian
    @iamkian 6 років тому +32

    Congratulations with you 100K.
    You are a big inspiration to me.
    I'm only 10, but hope to do things like you do when I am older.
    Best regards - Kian 👍

    • @flagship1701e
      @flagship1701e 5 років тому +1

      Jesus,? Yeah sure, whatever.

    • @matthijsreus9656
      @matthijsreus9656 5 років тому +1

      I hope you will one day Kian

    • @merlinklink3872
      @merlinklink3872 5 років тому +3

      When a ten year old has better grammar than you. Haha.

  • @umbra1016
    @umbra1016 6 років тому +3

    Seeing that tennis ball fly as fast as it did was very satisfying. Great job!

  • @dabj9546
    @dabj9546 5 років тому +1

    Absolutely fantastic video! Really interesting topic and very well executed.

  • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
    @rightwingsafetysquad9872 4 роки тому +19

    You need to talk to Joerge Sprave about making this semi-automatic.

    • @iant419
      @iant419 4 роки тому +1

      Full-auto trebuchet???

  • @AndreBandarra1
    @AndreBandarra1 6 років тому +29

    Huge congrats on the 100k Tom, well deserved! Also, trebuchet powered 100mph tennis ball? what's not to love about that?! :D two thumbs up mate :)

    • @TomStantonEngineering
      @TomStantonEngineering  6 років тому +1

      Thanks mate!!

    • @NINacide
      @NINacide 4 роки тому +1

      @@TomStantonEngineering This is VERY important for optimizing a trebuchet: Do you see how the platform rocks during the swing? A trebuchet MUST be on wheels and allowed to roll forwards and backwards, so that from the perspective of the weight, it is falling straight down. A terrible amount of energy is wasted by being transferred to the frame and rocking it. You will DEFINITELY increase your efficiency by putting it on wheels and allowing it to roll forwards and backwards during the throw.

    • @NINacide
      @NINacide 4 роки тому

      P.S. Source: "Medieval Siege" by Nova, "Secrets of Lost Empires II"

  • @GunwantBhambra
    @GunwantBhambra 6 років тому +3

    Never I have ever waited like this before every week WOW

  • @JohnThomas-wi3dl
    @JohnThomas-wi3dl 4 роки тому

    That was just awesome! Loved every second of that vid!

  • @MilanKarakas
    @MilanKarakas 5 років тому

    Wow, you are now close to 200 k subscribers. Congrats!

  • @jamesgoodwin2450
    @jamesgoodwin2450 6 років тому +4

    If I need to storm a castle you’re my man,great work love it

  • @danielsmith667
    @danielsmith667 4 роки тому +9

    Adding wheels to your treb also optimses the kinetic energy at the end of the curve

  • @MrClickbang357
    @MrClickbang357 5 років тому

    That was a fantastic build and the maths to get there was pretty cool too. In what little study I have done on "regular" trebuchets, there was a theory that putting the whole thing on wheels allowed it to conserve even more energy - kind of letting the whole thing counter-move with the forces lost during the flight. Okay that was a lousy description as it's been quite a while!!!
    Some food for thought. Congratulations on blowing past 100 mph!!!

  • @Thundermuffin93
    @Thundermuffin93 Рік тому

    Watching this for a second tome four years later and you are now 10x the number of subs, lol. Way to go Tom!

  • @nddragoon
    @nddragoon 5 років тому +239

    you can't optimise a trebuchet, they're already perfect

    • @pkramer962
      @pkramer962 5 років тому +31

      The trebuchet is the superior siege machine after all.

    • @herrpension1280
      @herrpension1280 5 років тому +14

      the perfect version called schwerer gustav

    • @ptirus
      @ptirus 5 років тому +1

      @@herrpension1280yes

    • @RRKS
      @RRKS 5 років тому +18

      You can optimize any machine that is below 100% efficient. While you can never get 100% due to losses in energy transfer, friction etc.. you can always get that 0.001% closer to 100%. I'm pretty sure that the old engineers trebuchets had higher efficiency than Tom, as they had decades to improve them. However as Tom is doing calculations and using physics, i don't think he's too far behind. And what was it? 60%~ish efficiency. Quite a room for improvement.

    • @JumalaPlays
      @JumalaPlays 5 років тому +5

      @@RRKS you're the guy thats fun at parties, right?

  • @benrae6337
    @benrae6337 5 років тому +2

    The attention to detail is crazy, and I loved how well you explained all the physics. Thanks for the video! Just curious, did you use Tracker or some other physics video analysis software to figure out the speeds?

  • @ethanbarlow1804
    @ethanbarlow1804 5 років тому

    I built a trebuchet for school and came across this video while I was researching and trying to find ideas. My team and I decided to make a whipper and ended up winning a competition with it! Thanks for the vid, Tom!

  • @akiwak0382
    @akiwak0382 4 роки тому

    Great job! Really enjoyed this.

  • @Kate-Tea
    @Kate-Tea 5 років тому +142

    lmao stop terrorizing the neighbours

    • @DeathsHood
      @DeathsHood 4 роки тому +29

      He's not terrorizing his neighbors.
      He's terrorizing his neighbors, neighbors, neighbors, neighbors, neighbors, neighbors, neighbor.
      They'll never know it's him!
      The perfect crime!

    • @blizzardstr
      @blizzardstr 4 роки тому

      And where do you think he got these tennis balls from?

    • @grassblade2
      @grassblade2 4 роки тому

      ....and?....what significant idea!.....Fetch a BOX of grenades!

    • @bill0127
      @bill0127 4 роки тому +3

      @@DeathsHood Lol just walkin around one day wondering who smashed my window with a supersonic tennis ball and find a whip it trebuchet 5 blocks down

  • @HWPcville
    @HWPcville 5 років тому +8

    Nice workmanship. There was an episode of Mythbusters (I believe) a number of years ago where they built & tested a Trebuchet. They put 4 wheels on the legs and that allowed the machine to move forward & back a few feet during launch. I recall it increased the distance of the throw. Thanks for posting.

  • @meusana3681
    @meusana3681 5 років тому

    Great video man. The concept of a trebuchet is intended to ultimately transfer energy from the counter weight to the target, literally meaning the bigger the trebuchet the more energy you can punch into a wall. A true marvel of historic ingenuity.

  • @darrinwolf9083
    @darrinwolf9083 5 років тому

    I love this project - very nice walk thru. I would LOVE to have a CNC router like that!

  • @brk_can
    @brk_can 6 років тому +62

    Finally! I was worried about you thinking that you shot yourself with the trebuchet :D

    • @TomStantonEngineering
      @TomStantonEngineering  6 років тому +14

      Fortunately not haha! Trebuchet rule no1, always stand to the side ;)

  • @nicolasyoung8241
    @nicolasyoung8241 4 роки тому +17

    I just wonder where all the tennis balls are going. I mean imagine waking up from a afternoon nap and 20-30 tennis balls are just in your backyard.

    • @MouseGoat
      @MouseGoat 4 роки тому +1

      Looks like they going into orbit ┐( ̄ヮ ̄)┌

    • @robertgoss4842
      @robertgoss4842 4 роки тому +1

      I suggested he turn the tennis balls into flaming projectiles.

  • @honkynel
    @honkynel 3 роки тому

    Some lovely photography and problem solving.

  • @alextotheroh8071
    @alextotheroh8071 4 роки тому

    Awesome work. Definitely going to build a trebuchet one day, hopefully it turns out half as good as yours!

  • @ashscott6068
    @ashscott6068 4 роки тому +9

    Put it on wheels and it will be more efficient. The whole frame will roll forwards just prior to release, as the weight swings backwards

  • @JohnSmith-cx8co
    @JohnSmith-cx8co 5 років тому +8

    Watching that, and seeing how fast and efficient it was, it’s amazing to think that pro tennis players regularly serve 150mph.

    • @paulbedichek5177
      @paulbedichek5177 10 місяців тому

      Was wondering at the improvements, at Winbelton,50 years ago, they reached 130mph. Pretty impressive improvement. How much was the equipment and what percentage too the player?

  • @DanielButlergungfu1967
    @DanielButlergungfu1967 5 років тому

    A friend and I years ago made one entirely out of wood. Using a basic drop and also on wheels. That thing was awesome.

  • @slowcity9434
    @slowcity9434 2 роки тому

    Me and some friends for a school project used this design of a trebuchet and it worked very well. This design went the farthest distance so thanks for the idea.

  • @johnrubensaragi4125
    @johnrubensaragi4125 4 роки тому +4

    2:20 efficiency is not related linearly with speed, since KE=1/2 mV^2

  • @alessummer6265
    @alessummer6265 3 роки тому +6

    Hey Tom,
    just saw the new Colin Furze video and couldn't stop thinking about the fact that you could really give him a hand with his trebuchet, try and contact him!

  • @RaidsEpicly
    @RaidsEpicly 5 років тому

    That launch sound at 14:09 is amazing! Impressive that you broke 100 mph

  • @larryferrari7778
    @larryferrari7778 4 роки тому

    When I was a kid,(about 55 years ago) My Dad was a general contractor and built houses so there was always a surplus of scrap lumber in the back yard, which was adjacent to the electrical power line tower right of way and that gave me plenty of room to sling objects. I”m not sure what prompted me to do it, but for a number of years I built, what I called a catapult in the back yard that was similar to the one you are using only it was much more simple, using a skinny 20 foot tree trunk laying on the fulcrum and creating a receptacle to hold rocks on the weight end an another small cup shaped thing on the long end. We just pulled the long end down, loaded it with a rock and let it fly. Very primitive, but a hell of a lot of fun.

  • @PetesShredder
    @PetesShredder 6 років тому +30

    I built an air cannon for a BBC tv show years ago that apparently got a tennis ball over mach1, according to a chronograph. Apparently thats not possible, due to choked flow... I keep meaning to re build the canon and try again and measure the speed properly. I built this giant 100mm piston valve that used the air pressure in the storage chamber to open the valve really fast. It was absolutely terrifying, and nearly 4M long. Those were the days....

    • @crispymemes9114
      @crispymemes9114 6 років тому +1

      ... That was your cannon ?

    • @PetesShredder
      @PetesShredder 6 років тому +6

      Not sure which one you mean. It won't let me post a link, but if you search on youtube for hoarp001 and find the video 'Monster tennis ball launcher", you will find it. There are other videos of it shooting bars of soap and coke bottles. There is also a video with the chronograph. I was about 18 when I built it, about 12 years ago now. I feel old.

    • @muzzi5237
      @muzzi5237 6 років тому +1

      U know BBC has more than 1 meaning

    • @PetesShredder
      @PetesShredder 6 років тому +18

      Hmm, well I am pretty sure I was not commissioned to build an air canon for a TV show by a 'Big Black C**k."

    • @crispymemes9114
      @crispymemes9114 6 років тому +1

      I watched something about that air cannon ( on BBC ) long ago... fucking hell what a small world we live on

  • @meisenhut31
    @meisenhut31 6 років тому +4

    Dude, good job on all fronts! Now make it throw a 90kg projectile 300m! Also, nice vacuum nozzle on router, 3D printed? Try making a full shroud that catches chips out the front. I imagine the half shroud makes for better videos though.

  • @zetacon4
    @zetacon4 5 років тому

    Wow! I am impressed! That is one fast tennis ball. Math conquers all. Your mods are fantastic. That is so neat. This shows what one can do if progressive analysis is applied.

  • @jeffcameron3192
    @jeffcameron3192 5 років тому

    Hi there, Jeff from New Zealand, like your video, going to binge watch the rest now.

  • @themightiestofbooshes9443
    @themightiestofbooshes9443 4 роки тому +16

    i tried to build a whipper in Medieval Engineers but the technology just isn't there yet...

  • @happyhelpfulhoovy
    @happyhelpfulhoovy 6 років тому +20

    if the k in the sub number was kilograms, a normal trebuchet would not be able to launch your subcount over 300 metres

    • @raphrath8561
      @raphrath8561 6 років тому

      kilograms is k the sub count has 100K (capital)

  • @khomol
    @khomol 4 роки тому

    Well done. Looks fun

  • @odinallmight4481
    @odinallmight4481 5 років тому +1

    8:00 I now understand how this machine fires thank you!

  • @JohnHeska
    @JohnHeska Рік тому +6

    Hey Tom, I have a new passion for trebuchets. Being new at this hobby, I was wondering if you offer any plans or drawings with dimensions for your whipper trebuchet for sale?

  • @AndrewWolboldt
    @AndrewWolboldt 4 роки тому +6

    what about putting the whole thing on wheels? instead of the whole frame rocking it will roll forward and the weights will drop straighter down.

    • @57thorns
      @57thorns 4 роки тому +2

      You lose energy accelerating the frame.

  • @chikokishi7030
    @chikokishi7030 5 років тому

    You are a great inspiration for me. I have many of the same interests as you! My 3d printer is in my kitchen... i need a shop lol. Thanks for the great video

  • @Knex13
    @Knex13 5 років тому +1

    I wish I had done more research when it came to making my trebuchet in highschool, that whipper one is neat.

  • @TripleDDDD
    @TripleDDDD 5 років тому +8

    And somewhere is a guy, wondering about all the Tennis balls in his garden :-]

  • @davidblurton9081
    @davidblurton9081 4 роки тому +53

    I've been watching too much PewDiePie and this shows up on Recommended

  • @moritzk3004
    @moritzk3004 4 роки тому

    We have a project in Physics (school) and every group of 3 sudents has to build a catapult with some restrictions (max weight 250g, max height of the weight, 30cm), and your vid helped me a lot! Thx

  • @FingerAngle
    @FingerAngle 5 років тому +1

    Hey Tom, I don't think I've ever fully explained how and why I developed the curved hanger system. It was really to accommodate large diameter projectiles in small Whippers, or machines with narrow main axles. A straight, split rail hanger system will work just fine with small projectiles, like golf balls or baseballs, because they can fit between the rails, where softballs or pumpkins will not. I developed the Double Link hanger system first to make space for larger pojos. It worked and performed pretty well, but the configuration reduced the cocking height of the counterweight, reducing the PE. The two counterweight bars in the curved hanger allow me to load large amounts of counterweight and move the center of gravity around, effectively opening or closing the angle between the arm and the hanger without actually adjusting the Timing Prop. A Timing Prop is a mechanical adjusting device between the arm and the hanger. My big full size Whipper did not require the curved hanger because it's so huge that there's space between the hanger rails. Even though it has a mechanical timing prop, location of the CW center of mass was crucial in getting it timed.

  • @VillainInGlasses
    @VillainInGlasses 6 років тому +4

    try throwing a plain in it, and see if it gets destroyed by the G-force or glide through the air in a tremendous speed

    • @gth042
      @gth042 6 років тому +1

      My guess is that a glider or water filled 3d printed rocket were high on his long list of projectiles (along with a gopro and the cat). The rope and release doodad required to keep things aligned are probably a whole project in itself. Thank you for sharing this stuff, Tom!

  • @madzak9847
    @madzak9847 5 років тому +5

    Now you can bombard your neighbours with Molotov cocktails)

  • @mullinstech
    @mullinstech 3 роки тому

    excellent work!!

  • @Caronte4116
    @Caronte4116 5 років тому +1

    How did I end in here? And why did I like this video so much? Ton of memories about Age of Empires II, of course :D great job! Good device to play with your dog

  • @EchoErik
    @EchoErik 6 років тому +8

    What was the distance of the 104 mph ball?

    • @The1wsx10
      @The1wsx10 6 років тому +1

      well, measure the angle. then use newtons constant acceleration to get the time till vertical movement is 0. double that, then just approximate the horizontal velocity for that time.

    • @The1wsx10
      @The1wsx10 6 років тому +1

      ok, i just did the maths... assuming the camera is completely level, and the 2 frames the ball is in the air are representative of the angle it leaves, it goes 199 meters (654 feet)
      docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_UtC9ZjoW7aZw-X7mHikqZPpjg3d-9BvmxYfQhGdZYE/edit?usp=sharing

    • @1Hippo
      @1Hippo 5 років тому +5

      Interesting calculation. It will be lot less in reality though, because of the significant air resistance at that speed.

    • @peanut7712
      @peanut7712 5 років тому +2

      @@1Hippo it would also catch a lot more air than any normal object because of the fuzzes on it are made to
      cause air friction.

  • @Fede_uyz
    @Fede_uyz 5 років тому +240

    Alright, now lets re take jerusalem

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 5 років тому +3

      Or go to the Moon in a tennis ball.. tsk-tsk

    • @Fede_uyz
      @Fede_uyz 5 років тому +14

      @@BillAnt retaking Jerusalems seems better

    • @stupidperson9250
      @stupidperson9250 4 роки тому +1

      @@Fede_uyz we have it already lets take anatolia instead

    • @spartankongcountry6799
      @spartankongcountry6799 4 роки тому +1

      DEUS VULT!

    • @grassblade2
      @grassblade2 4 роки тому

      Nah....leave it....'Smells of wee in the corners! Why do you want anything that smells of wee?

  • @TonyKuzmin
    @TonyKuzmin 5 років тому

    great project!

  • @saiforos7928
    @saiforos7928 Рік тому

    You're almost at 1m now, good job

  • @MrAmalasan
    @MrAmalasan 6 років тому +112

    How far did they go?

    • @Jr-Programmer
      @Jr-Programmer 6 років тому +77

      Glen M a 90kg projectile can be slung(?) over 300 meters

    • @The1wsx10
      @The1wsx10 6 років тому +31

      assuming the camera is completely level, and the 2 frames the ball is in the air are representative of the angle it leaves, it goes 199 meters (654 feet)

    • @Pikmin88
      @Pikmin88 5 років тому +38

      1wsx10
      300m, if it were 90kg.

    • @The1wsx10
      @The1wsx10 5 років тому +14

      what? you aren't getting 300m with a 90kg projectile with this trebuchet. its frame is bolted together with plywood

    • @Pikmin88
      @Pikmin88 5 років тому +42

      1wsx10
      /r/trebuchetmemes

  • @stwch
    @stwch 6 років тому +36

    Will you enhance this trebuchet out of exotic material such as ceramic bearing, aerodynamicly sculpted carbon fiber for the arm, and lead block as the counterweight?

    • @Moraren
      @Moraren 6 років тому +6

      it would be cool to see this taken to the extreme!

    • @gabewrsewell
      @gabewrsewell 6 років тому +23

      i thought you said exotic materials... osmium counterweight

    • @jocaleb0236
      @jocaleb0236 6 років тому +4

      pizza_boy18 a tungsten cube would work 100x better

    • @jocaleb0236
      @jocaleb0236 6 років тому +2

      Gabe Sewell well osmium is extraordinarily expensive actually all dense materials are quite expensive like tungsten gold and osmium but tungsten would definitely be the easiest

    • @jocaleb0236
      @jocaleb0236 6 років тому +1

      Mercury would work as well but it is probably hard to get it also it as toxic as lead so as long as you don't have cuts on your hand you can mess with it because of it not absorbing through the skin

  • @eyeball3723
    @eyeball3723 5 років тому +2

    Hey thanks man you really helped me with my school project we had to build a smaller siege machine!! :)

    • @toastom
      @toastom 5 років тому

      How did it go?

  • @LukeyBThePhysicsG
    @LukeyBThePhysicsG 5 років тому

    Nice video! Something I noticed was that you were calculating efficiency as measured against a "black box" model where the trebuchet is a machine converting gravitational potential energy straight to kinetic energy. This is actually pretty unrealistic (but is a great first-approximation method), since it neglects important factors like arm rotational energy, counterweight ending potential energy, etc, which of course have to be present in some form for the machine to operate. If you factor those things in to your "expected" velocity, you'd find that your efficiency is actually much higher than what you found!
    Source: did a classical mechanics II class where we used Legrangian mechanics to calculate theoretical launch velocities of trebuchets we built, and ended up achieving ~85% efficiency.

    • @johnfrancisdoe1563
      @johnfrancisdoe1563 5 років тому +1

      Lukey B. The Physics G Excluding some losses (such as unwanted energy deposited in internal movement) just provides bogus marketing numbers. Losses are losses.

  • @NeverthePanda
    @NeverthePanda 5 років тому +3

    some dog somewhere back there now has a lot of toys

  • @aserta
    @aserta 6 років тому +44

    That motor is entirely far too down, you have to minimize flexing in a CNC, not increase it.

  • @jaimedelosrios2977
    @jaimedelosrios2977 Рік тому

    Thank you for keeping this video active. I think the expression for the kinetic energy needs V squared. Ke = 0.5 mass x velocity ^ 2. Velocity equation is incongruent otherwise.

  • @thefoodguycooking
    @thefoodguycooking Рік тому

    Diffinantly gonna be using some of your ideas for my projectile launcher school project