MAP GAS | FLUX | Smelting | Gold - ask Jeff Williams
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- Опубліковано 9 тра 2012
- Melting and Smelting of Gold requires the use of " Flux " to remove the impurities and to reduce or oxidize the base metals so you can have a purer gold that we can sell or use for Jewelery. .
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Thanks for sharing, you were a huge help! Been panning for years and finally made my first small ingot. Appreciated you showing techniques to get the gold to melt without losing material, it was a challenge keeping the small flakes in but the flux did the trick. Thank you.
Thank you very much for the demonstration and commentary. Looking forward to viewing all of your videos.
Its enjoyable to watch your older videos my friend,, you surely have changed over the years,,, good on ya
skeets
I haven't seen anything NEW??
It seems to be older than 2 years ...
Try an extension hose so you can leave the map bottle upright (they even make a holster to clip it to your belt) and make the whole process more comfortable. Also keeps from pulling liquid through the torch and surging the flame or even blowing it out.
Thanks for the knowledge your sharing with us. I wouldn't know where to start without your channel.
Thank you Jeff for writing me back! Your videos are the best!! I am learning a lot from you. Funny, educational and exciting!!! The very best to you!!! Thank you.
the torch is a harbor freight torch its around 20 bucks and sold as a welding torch and works great although im not sure its rated for map gas though, mine said nothing about any other fuel except propane but hey its working nicely with map for him. just thought id share where the torch is from im using mine as a small forge burner
I made a button of my own small pile gold flakes - used an ordinary propane torch with a little borax powder as flux. I pre-heated the crucible. Ended up with 2.1 DWT. (I use pennyweight rather than grams - so much easier to calculate. 20 penny makes an ounce.) So 2.1 penny is slightly over a 10th ounce.
going back and watching some your older videos. I have been learning a lot in the last few months. was in a very bad accident and have been in a wheelchair for 6 months.. was in a very bad accident and have been in a wheelchair for 6 months. I can't wait to get back out there in the desert. before my accident, I was not into looking for gold, but time in hospitals and stuck at home I've been watching UA-cam and ran into some your videos.
You're so cheerful and merry; I love it!
Thanks so much Jeff, I knew you would know. Will let you know what we find. Take Care and Keep up the Great videos....
$6,000 cross. That is love my man :) Love your videos. I've been soaking up all the inspiration and knowledge I can as I hit the Feather River and Butte areas. Nice finds btw, your enthusiasm is contagious!
Dude, you are the best! Great videos. My favorite UA-camr bar none.
hey man. i love ur channel. but this video is much better than most to me just cuz ur not being so ridculous.. its great some times but love this one man. refreshingly normal ☺
This why I love your videos Jeff because I learn something new every time like I did no gold could vaporizer. So what happens to it is it like steam ones it cools it rains gold or is just gone
It was costly and somewhat funny to see happen, but way back when I was up in Brekenridge Colorado decades ago, the local concrete and gravel plant would let us clean the sludge out of the run off trough of their washer plant. The material the plant used was from huge dredge tailing piles from gold mining many years before.
Well, over a month or so I would process out this mud and clean the gold up. We got a few ounces and split it up. One of the guys decides he wants to melt his down, so he tosses it in a metal pan and goes to town on it with a Mapp gas torch. None of us had done this before, so no flux and he just burns and burns and burns away on it. Finally he stops and no gold in the bottom of the pan. Just a bunch of slag. He is like, WTH happened to the gold! Tosses out the chunk of slag.
30 years latter after seeing this I am wondering if the gold was inside the slag, LOL.
Thanks, good info. Nice to see the cheaper way to do it.
Great video jeff keep up the good work.
I just discovered your site and really enjoyed it thanks a lot. I will be riding into the mountains soon with my gear looking for some gold even if I don't find some it is a great way to spend a day and maybe even make some money. It is like getting paid to have fun and everybody likes that right.
Did you make your crucible Jeff ?I Cant see one like it online,yours looks like a good one.
Thanks for all your work to make these informative videos.
Very educational. Thank you for this.
Thanks George our pleasure. Jeff
Thanks Jeff. Great stuff there. I've seen gold melted before but you make it a little easier. Did you time how long it took you to get it to melt? If so, how long was it?
Just starting watching your older videos. You were quite subdued. Glad to see you've came out of your shell!
Hey, thanks!
Nice work boss!
Great video. Exciting when it set the detector off!
I know huh. Jeff
Useful 411 ,I use natural gas from my house and an old medical oxygen generator aka (breathing machine) ,you can find the older type real cheap . i mix both gases via a simple two valve/ torch mixing barrel using a small orifice oxy /acty brazing tip . it will get hot enough to even braze or gas weld metal up to 1/8 " thick .
Hi Jeff...LOVE the videos. Dude, I used to run the furnaces at Dillon Gage Refining on Indian Trail in Dallas and melted millions of dollars worth of gold, silver, platinum and palladium from pawn shops, jewelers, dentists (gross melting teeth with blood still on em etc!) and literally walked around with 650 ounce ingots still warm from the furnace after vacuum tube sampling them and casting into foot long ingot molds. Point is, you live and die by flux...wrong flux, you lose gold. I always used anhydrous borax as a base and on the 3rd or 4th melt, casting into a conical shaped dore mole, thinned out the final melt with sodium nitrate. Since then, I've become an artist in raku pottery and glass and make all my furnaces, burners etc. to this day. That said. Get on Craigslist under the "art" section and buy a used 110V electric kiln and forget the torch. Go on ebay and buy a small graphite crucible. Use borax as a flux and at the end of stirring the mix at high melt, thin the whole thing by pouring in 10% of the borax weight of sodium nitrate and use a bit more to make it thinner if you want. Your work and efficiency will go WAY up. The ONLY time we used a torch was in small fireclay crucibles and it was an oxy/acetylene torch to burn dentist's teeth to get the palladium/gold melted into a button...didn't even use flux! Keep up the HILARIOUS videos...man you are the Red Green of UA-cam!
Thanks Russel for the great info. We will look into an electric furnace too. What are your thoughts on a propane furnace. Jeff
hey jeff would be awesome if you could do a updated video of this in HD :)
Dude! As always very informative video, glad you showed the TERMINATOR TORCH I used the inexpensive one finished one yellow tank and it was not hot enough. Got to get the TERMINATOR TORCH.
I'll BE BACK.
Thank you
thanks and you betcha ... get to the choppa ...ooops wrong movie
Get enough of those buttons and you can fancy up that buckskin shirt! Great video Jeff...as always I love your stuff...I learn so much!!
Jeff , I bought an older 02 concentrator (medical ) and use my natural gas from my house as my gas ,
made a diy torch from two old propane torch heads and valves , using the natural gas from my house and the 02 concentrator for my 02 , and I can do everything but cut with that flame , braze up to 1/8 inch even thicker and if I had a regular cutting torch mixing barrel and cutting head I could probably cut thin material with it if i had a higher pressure source to blow thru the metal , probably regular air compressor air would suffice for that but it is the perfect flame and it's almost free . I sold my big torch and bottles many years ago and i get by with this homemade rig and its all damn near free no more buying gas from welding supply or bottles of map from Meads Hardware store . Just food for thought for uyou or any of those on here interested
can you use borax or boric acid for flux ? Where did you get the crucible with a handle ? great videos thanks
Jeff what torch are you using here? I couldn't even get my silver to melt using my map gas and regular torch. I'm beginning to see the torch is everything when it comes to using map gas
good informative vid jeff keep up the good work
Thanks , we will. Jeff
Really great video!! Thanks.
you betcha my friend.
Jeff you're really informative. cheers.
+CPLD always our pleasure. Thanks for watching and for the comments too.
Cheers.
Jeff and Slim
Great short video !!! Thanks Jeff !! :) I've heard Borax can be used same as your "flux". Is this true?? Keep the good times rolling Buddy!
I melted about 1/3 of an ounce of my fine gold with a mapp gas torch, Borax and a really old crucible that was found at an old mine near Congress AZ. I was successful but all of the Borax vaporized before the gold melted. how can I glaze the crucible with borax if it disappears before the golds melting point?
pre heat crucible. use less flux, as metal melts impurities come to surface, now sprikle enough flux to brighten melt
Joseph Gronka Thanks Joseph for the info, always like to have people share their knowledge.
Jeff and Slim
Jeff, Great video. 11.9 grams not bad. I always wondered how to melt down gold with flux to make a button - economically in my (modest) garage. Thanks again.
our pleasure Steve. Jeff
Steve Mazzara Hi Steve !! I don’t know what flux is it and how to get it!! If u know pls tell me!!! 😊😊
hello there i love to pan for gold and im learing to smelt with a micro silver smelting bucket by candle and i love to pan for gold with a silver panning plate have any advise ?
Awesome! BTW I started watching videos where you melt gold into bars, ingots, or anything, yesterday when I found that video after watching someone pouring molten aluminum into a pool
WindowsFanMade Thanks for watching and we are really glad you like them.
Jeff and Slim
I mean the handle on the torch; specific make/model?
Appreciated.
HP!
hello where i can get all those stuff that you use to melt the gold and what was the black thing that you put on the gold before you melt it and if that thing also works on silver or if you have video that explains that stuff thanks ..
That's a pretty nice looking shop ya got there. I'm slightly jealous! Thanks for the video!
***** Thanks appreciate that.
Jeff and Slim
Trivia: Gold is created during the final stages of a supernova explosion that reaches a temperature of 100 billion degrees. Gold is so rare because the temperature that is needed for its creation (100 billion degrees) only lasts for about 15 seconds as the blast waves collide with the outer layers of the star.
Scott Martin was literally wondering this exact question on my way home from work today...
Is that Fahrenheit, celcius or Kelvin? 100 billion degrees? Really?
Wow! If you look up : indoctrinated, programmed individual, gullible, robot, sheeple, asleep in the dictionary, YOU Scott Martin, YOU WILL BE PICTURED NEXT TO THE DEFINITION! I'm speechless
YOoow JEFF AND SLIM !!!
THANX THIS EXCELLENT EPISODE & EXPERIENCE ,,,
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I LOVE MY PATREON MEMBERSHIP.
YOoow ADRIAN
All your videos are great and my wife and I just moved to the High Desert and wanted to ask where a first timer can go. We are near Hwy 138 and Hwy 18. Thanks and keep up the great work....
So is the black marks on the button impurities and how do those get removed?
Vintage Jeff Williams, non-shredding soundtrack. This might be worth something someday. :)
Hi Jeff!!!! Can you please help. We smelled some metal buttons the other day and they all dissolved into black sand. We were waiting until the next day to cupel them all but there were only piles of black sand. On the first few smelts we used Legend and the other smelts Chapman, both dust.8(
Hi Jeff, I have gold particles locked under layers of borax in a crusible, how do I get it back.? Cheers.
Yes I learned the hard way about vaporizing my gold
hi jeff its me jai again i was just wondering thos molds the black things that you said you would like to make a gold bar yer well um where can i get them and what are they called p.s i just love gold i have heaps of copper pennys wich im thinking of melting down for copper so yer. jai
please reply and help me jeff asap
William i ask about fluxe? What kind of fluxe the will use melting of gold..
hello nice video! so i wonna melt gold rings chains bracelets etc, but when they are different purities? i mean 585, 750 and 916, can i put them all together? and you suggest borax or flux?(for this case)Thanks a lot best from greece!!
how clean does the gold have to be to add flux and where do you get flux?
Hi Jeff, have to say I love the videos and find the very helpful. I was wondering if you would know what is the difference between soldering flux and the gold recovery flux? Also I live in a country where Borax is illegal for some crazy reason, and now I am looking into alternative fluxes to work with. Do you or anyone else have any advise on the mater?
I guess that you could use boric acid bought at the local drug store. It's a white powder. I tried it once and it works.
hi jeff , just asking what did u use as the poor man crus , an ash tray , if so what kind , we cant find one at all , but still looking , we will buy some map gas, thanks tim form the gpaa matthews group nc
Great Video!!
Hi Jeff can you tell me what type of flux powder you used and if there is other type`s,,Great vids and informative ,,thanks ,,,
Hi Jeff love your crucible, I checked Desert outfitters website but did not see one there
Try this web site cause I know the have them and tell that Jeff and Slim sent you.
www.makeyourowngoldbars.com/crucibles-tongs
How long did it take to melt the gold? Thanks for the videos, I am really enjoying them.
I'd like to know this too.
are you serious
Takes about 3 minutes.
That looks like fun.
Would you be willing to share them? Are any good for smelting gold from pyrite? Thanks
Hi Jeff. Great videos, really enjoyed them. I used to poke around in the hills and find cool rock specimens. Never knew you could actually vaporize gold, does it simply evaporate into the air? I saw on your one video with your dry washer it looked like you were using the same leaf blower motor for that too that you used for your vac-pack? Also which is the most productive method, 1) roasting pyrites/sulfides or 2) crushing and panning? I'm up in the Portland area but hoping to get out soon and do some panning. Don't let slim steal your gold!!
Doug Van Tassell yes it will boil at about 4700 degrees. Yes it is the same motor (Echo 210 ) I would say crushing and panning for us. We produce more Gold here with that method.
Jeff and Slim
Hey Jeff, do you think someone could use that flux to purify computer scrap gold? I have some, but i dont want to use acid for obvious reasons.
That would be a hell of a gold pan! All that shine hidden by a BOAT LOAD of black sand!
Great, now I want to head up to Gold Country.
hey jeff is it dangerous to inhale the burning mapp gas? even wearing a proper mask?
Thanks !!
Thanks, Jeff. (7/6/23) - Old Blooo
this video make it look easy.....I'm doing the low budget melt.
Trying to melt my gold bridge into a ring for my gal. I've made up a mold and trying to melt the bridge right into the mold. I'm using propane, can get the gold orange/red but it's not melting. what am I missing, flux, acid more heat?
Eric Wight you have to use MAP gas it has a higher burn temp. Gold melts at 1953 degrees.
Jeff and Slim
Many do not know, that the pure gold melting leaves a cavity in the center of the nugget.
Nice video :)
A tip : watch movies on Flixzone. I've been using them for watching a lot of movies these days.
@Santana Mayson Yea, I've been watching on flixzone} for months myself =)
Hey, Jeff & Slim! What was the ET of that melt? AND can I use straight BORAX?
Thanks, SMKNLZRD
about 5 minutes yes you can.
I like that torch. Where can I buy it? What model?
what is the difference between borax and flux as well as thinner kinda confused
Dear ghosttownhunter um where did you get the gold like did you find all of the gold or did you bye it I'm only 14 and I'm amazed with your videos i live in Australia so i don't know where to get the gold
Hello Jeff! Can you post a link to that map gas torch head? I use big Oxygen/Ace set up now. Its a pain in the butt draging out them big ole tanks. Thank you Jeff and God Bless you! I was wondering if maybe you could make another gold video of you and your dad!🙏
I lost my dad when i was 4 but i remember him everyday of my life!
we got them from Home Depot
Hey big fan Jeff . I was wondering should you wear a breathing mask when working with silver gold And borax? Just asking so I can do this at home
its not that bad to have to wear one
awesome video. I enjoyed it..
Thanks Jo Sutton , glad you liked it and I know you will like the rest of them too.....So C'mon Lets Go ! Jeff
Hi Ask Jeff.Can you tell me what's Flux.I translated the work to my language but still i didn't understand.And tell me plz whats borax?
I tied using borax but it coated my gold a dingy color and didn't resemble gold or melt to a button, I used map gas.. To be fair it was a 10k solid gold ring, seems like it was covered in a glass substance and wouldn't melt to a button rather just large chunks which would be great chunky gold, would borax be the culprit
What happens to the flux? Does it burn away? Does it reamin in the gold?
Hi i live in spain and i am trying to get some backing to get some land which is full of Mica do you know where i can get some backing for a progeject
HI JEFF
I WISH I HAD SEEN THIS BEFORE MY CRUCIBLE BLEW UP LOL
ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO I COULD WATCH THEM ALL DAY ,,, ACTUALLY I DO HAHA
KEEP EM COMIN
KEITH
Thanks Keith \and you betcha. Jeff
How does one go about separating said black glass from the button?
buddy that is super cool whole lot of fun
What kind of torch is that? It certainly gets the job done.
Hello ghosttownhunter for this weekend my mom turns 50 and I want to get her a gold sword with titanium and A diamond bottom P.S shes a huge fan of swords i was wondering you found the gold and how long it takes to melt it with the flux Thanks And Have A Lovely Weekend
Thanks again for instruction... Jeff is That Flux Called Chapman flux ?
Jeff,could you give me the name and model # of the tourch you are using in this video. Thanks alot, David
where do get the Flux? What is the Flux made from?
The black sand that is left over from panning, can it be heated like this with flux to release any hidden gold?
Use mercury!
So by adding the flux do you get pure Au?
Nice looking gold
Jeff can you make a video > how to properly use Chapman Flux for sulfides?
I remember you said to add a iron nail as it will pull sulfur away from the gold?
Tell slim I said hi!🙂
actually we have a special flux we have just for that
Just the "prettiest little button" I ever did see!
Hi Jeff, Great videos, thanks. I have some gold that was melted with aluminum. What is the best way to separate these metals so I have the 95% that you are getting. chemical?, torching? thanks.
Del Norte Chiropractic smelt the aluminium out with flux and use a cone mold to drop the Gold to the bottom.
Jeff and Slim
I'm guessing the extra on the top will easily crack away after it is heated. Is this correct? I love your videos, Thanks for your help.
Cool video enjoyed
your torch head have you got a model number for us down under.Me eyes getting blurry from searching.Regards edd
I found a little container that has a couple tiny prices of gold.about the size of crickets ear, I thought buy looking at the gold I hadin the container, I could compare to what ever I find in a couple buckets of dirt and mud that I brought home from my first prospecting trip . there is lots of shiny stuff,
So I figured I need to put the gold in a pan with the mud to see how gold really does or does not move.
I was surprised. I still don't know if I have any . I do know there is a lot here that isn't , so my question would be ,is the term ( concentrates ) meaning all this materiel cleaned and most of the floaty shiny stuff, removed,?
I mean, what does gold sand really look like wet and dry?
What does a pan with half cup of this look like? I'd like to see this so I know if ive waisted time and material.
I dont like looking ignorant going to the guy at the jewelry store . and I know they don't like waisting their time with me.
If your still reading this, I apologise for not keeping it short and simple. Thanks for making your vidieos.