Here’s the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you! DeWalt with 12 inch Shaft: amzn.to/3lQi5RJ Milwaukee 49-22-8510: amzn.to/3rUn47P Milwaukee 48-32-2390: amzn.to/3GBuW2u Milescraft: amzn.to/3rRh7c1 Yakamoz: amzn.to/3lQIcby Autotoolhome: amzn.to/3pSnlpw DEWALT (DWARA120): amzn.to/3IQhRnV Westward: amzn.to/3Gz6TB3
Hiya. Would you consider doing a test between 40v Makita angle drillvs 54v dewalt angle drill. These both seem like powerful tools but making a choice is difficult. Which tools do you recommend, Dewalt vs Makita? Thank you
As the sole designer/engineer/R&D employee of the Milescraft one I'm happy with how it held up. It was literally the first thing I designed in my career. *shrug* Love your videos. Keep it up.
Considering this was a torque test more than anything, I have to say that dewalt flex shaft is perfectly fine when it's general use, such as my last job where I worked on vehicle interiors. A lot easier to deal with a flex shaft over a static position right angle adapter to get hard to reach screws and bolts.
It's definitely more for light duty use than high torque. I blew mine apart trying to use it to drill 1/2 in holes in the top of a wall frame. If you've got it full speed and it's not perfectly aligned it likes to bind and spin like a pin wheel, with a sharp bit on the end!
@@RevelationAV They wear out and some die due to fatigue. Fatigue is not the same thing as push to fail. Push to fail is going way past the design limit. Fatigue is where the tool dies well within spec.
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Whenever Project Farm buys 2 of everything and says 'we're gonna test that' multiple times you know things are going to get spicy. He never disappoints.
Oh man, what would we do without you. The real life scenarios are what makes your testing so relevant to whoever need the test specific application. Thanks for the time and effort.
When I was an auto glass tech, these things were indispensable. I still have my Milwaukee angle driver from 10 years ago. Also, from watching many of your videos, both DeWalt and Milwaukee seem to really care about what their name gets attached to. Can't go wrong with either brand.
I think your right in most cases. Unfortunately though when they have their misses they are usually very bad which is confusing to me. It causes me to considering to look elsewhere sometimes. But hey that is why we love @Project Farm because he does all the testing for us so we don't have to guess at it lol.
@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r yeah I agree. But they tend to be smaller tools/less critical items. Like I had a Milwaukee utility knife that was a steaming turd. But their main line tools or specialty tools tend to be very good quality.
I got that Milwaukee $60 right angle drill bit about two decades ago when it was still only $29. And it still holds up very well today. With moderate to heavy use
Every time I'm shopping for tools/accessories, I just know Project Farm has a video to help. If a brand I'm considering isn't in a PF video I usually end up not getting it and choose one of the PF recommended products. This channel provides so much value, not just financially but also in entertainment. I am a hobbyist and independent motorcycle mechanic. These videos are a godsend and have helped me greatly in saving me time and money. I can't thank you enough for what you do.
Thank you for having the inset box with a picture of each tool as you went over the graphs! That saves going back for visual checks. I think build quality and the screw and bolt driving are the most useful tests here. The max torque tests are interesting, but you could almost always use a wrench or socket and breaker bar to loosen very tight bolts anywhere a right angle drive would fit.
I think it indicates how much headroom you have with the device. The more over spec it is, the longer it will likely last. This is where the whole test to failure concept comes from. Unless you break it you don't know where it's limits are.
There came a time where I had to use a drill, one of these adaptors, about (3) 12 inch extensions, and a 3/4 spade bit to drill holes through ceiling joists to run a wire for a recessed lighting. My flexible drill bit did nothing. A huge amount of torque was required. At one point, the shaft for the spade bit snapped. Still, the adaptor remained strong.
@@ProjectFarm do a review on brushless DeWalt and Craftsman tools... Since they are both owned by the same company. One is definitely cheaper than the other and is it all just branding that makes the difference??? Impact drivers, regular drills... I mean even their job site stacking tool boxes are interchangeable.... Including the radios? So is it over hype to buy DeWalt?
@@ProjectFarm Thanks for the videos! Any plans to find out which 3/8" socket set is best? Would love to see you putting non-impact socket sets to the test by looking at their max torque before they break, corrosion resistance, and ability to withstand impact use, etc. I'd like to see you compare Tekton, Milwaukee, and whichever others!
When Project Farm says, “We’re gonna test that!” He doesn’t mean just a little wear and tear, he’s gonna destroy it for the viewers to see what to spend their hard earned money on 👍
Thanks for the review! I have had the $59 Milwaukee for more than ten years now. It was quite pricey (for me), but I like sturdy tools with longevity. The adapter has helped me out of lots of (literally) tight spots, and continues to work flawlessly to this day! I have performed three flat renovations and a complete family house refurbishment with it during these years.
I've had mine since very first release which has to be nearly 20 years old now. The investment is so good that I won't think twice getting a new once mine finally gives up.
I've carried a Dewalt 60 in my tool bags for years after destroying numerous other brands while steel-stud framing. It's compact size and durability make it my best option. I found one at Home Depot on Black Friday this year with a set of tips for $10 I'm giving to a co-worker for Christmas.
The thoroughness of your tests are most impressive. And I venture to say you have saved people hundreds if not thousands watching your videos. Always enjoy watching them. And your sense of humor adds to that enjoyment.
Best channel on UA-cam. You don’t understand what kind of a hero you are. Finally someone putting brands to serious tests! We work too hard to blow our money on garbage.
I didn’t know these even existed 6 months ago, now I reach for these all the time. I’ve used them to drill holes in tight spaces (with hex keyed bits) tighten and loosen fasteners in places that would usually require an extensive amount of time to get to otherwise. Probably the most useful is the screws that hold on the wheel well of Chevy Silverados when we need to remove a bumper.
remember going gaga when saw/got a grandaddy of these 40 yrs ago...miss it a lot...lost in the housefire,along with the rest of the tools,last nov...it took the firetruck 30 min to go from the fire station at the top of the hill to my house at the bottom of the same hill, go figure...if this mechanic fixed cars the way these guys do their job, we'd all be walking...plus you cant sue the fire dept here in canuckstan
I've been using the Milwaukee 8510 for years now and it's a real workhorse. I have no fears throwing a 1-1/2-in spade bit in it and drilling through pine, poplar or oak joists or beams. The adjustable handle is prone to coming loose, so you have to be careful storing it in your pocket and walking around. I've lost parts on it that way when the screw handle came out and the adjustment pieces scattered around. This is definitely a case of "you get what you pay for."
@Ross Radford In soft studs you should be able to drill 3/4 inch holes all day long. The only thing you need to be careful of is hitting nails. That can cause the drill to twist in unexpected way and can be dangerous (I got my finger jammed really hard between a stud and the drill once when the whole thing twisted and locked up on my finger). It's actually safer to drill with an impact since it won't twist when the bit jams.
Thrilled that the Dewalt 60 made it through the showdown! I’ve used that model at work for a couple years now and it’s a great little tool. Great review as always!
Love the couple of small but super helpful improvements you made!! - testing multiple common models of each brand - showing the video in the corner of which model you're talking about when going through the chart. Before I always had trouble following the comparisons since they're not in the same order chart by chart. Thank you!
The Dewalt 60 (or similar) regularly comes as a bonus item in impact bit kits. I got mine in an impact drill & driver kit. It is good for what it is and I've had no issues with it. Since I needed the bits, I consider it a free bonus. And you can regularly find the bit kits with Dewalt 60 on sale for cheaper than the Dewalt 60 by itself. I use a Ryobi one+ HP impact driver (not with a HP battery) with this and it works great. I recommend the Dewalt 60.
I got that kit too near black Fri for $10. That's why I got it. Great deal for bits & adapter. Can't say I will b beating the crap out of it so I'm sure it'll b fine. Just a nice bonus item for hard to reach areas
@@Bremend Mine has a little hole in the back to poke the bit out with a #1 phillips or anything smaller than that. I do have an older version though (about 2012).
The flex shaft Dewalt can be a sketchy situation if you don't have a good hold on that head and you're drilling. I was using it to do electrical work and drill 1/2" holes in wall headers where the roof made it a hard to reach area. If you're not holding on to that head it will kink and spin the whole thing. The all metal fixed version is much easier to control in awkward positions where you're likely using these.
I'm a tradesman & this guy is one of the very best for the most thorough tool & accessory tests. Saves me a lot of money and wasted time. Very few other tool test channels even come close. The rapid fire no nonsense narrative is amazing. But Tool Torque Test is also excellent
Very impressive test. It is nice to see the increased amount of information including the pictures of the brand from the chart. I have used the Milescraft driver for about 5 years now, It has worked very well with no noticeable issues. I have used a off brand and still have it (It is at 45 deg angle, works well servicing candy machines, but has early proto technology-sloppy gears) The high priced Milwaukee seems to be made very well and if I need a long term HD 90 deg adapter that seems to be the one. Thank you again for the increased information and the many products you take to the extreme abuse limits.
If there is one thing to learn from your videos its that thier is no one set company many people get stuck on one brand and that all they will buy tools blades bits etc but your videos always prove that just because one brand has best tools doent mean they make the best blades bits etc as always great video and Merry Christmas project farm
I really like the thumbnails of the product being visible while you do the data recap. It makes it much easier for me to follow, thank so much for all your hard work.
I've used several brands over the years. The basic Dewalts have served me the best. For my application of mostly tek screws in sheet metal, or various wood screws, their balance of size and durability have worked the best.
Nice timely review of angle adapters, I was looking at them on Amazon and your review helped with my decision making. I love how you pushed them to breaking, since most of us won't have the time and budget to do so on our own.
Would love to see a comparison between carb cleaners or electronic cleaners in a can. I use them daily to clean almost anything not just carbs or electronics but glue on plastic that alcohol can't get of and acetone will destroy the plastic surface. Please consider this
I've abused the heck out of my Milwaukee (expensive one) for 10+ years for bolts and screws with impact drivers/wrenches. The adjustable handle has made it worth every penny especially when drilling holes at weird angles. Great video as always!
It used to amaze me how consistently the Milwaukee tools were at or near the top of each test. Now its come to be expected, and this one was no different. Great job as always!
I used to work for Milwaukee Power Tools as my first job out of college and they do make quality stuff. The major thing that I noticed is that they have field research teams that go out to jobsites and asks real contractors and laborers what could make their day easier or their tools work better and they take all that information to make the best tool the can for the price. The tools are still made in China but they really do put in a lot of real use research by asking the people who use the tools the most what they can improve.
@@walterbrunswick So technically they don't have any assembly workers similar to how Apple manufactures products. They hire a third-party assembly company similar to the likes of Foxconn (the manufacturer of all Apple products) to manufacture all their products overseas.
@@mOOOp42 that's cap. I've been doing construction for 5 years never been approached by a Milwaukee rep. My boss has been for 50+ says he's never been either.
These adapters are worth their weight in gold when you're working in cramped auto interiors. I own both the Milwaukee units, but Dewault looks like its a good choice as well. Great job, as always, Todd. P.S. - How are your forearms after the screw driver workout? Can you fold a frying pan yet? lol
Two years later still one of the best videos (if not the best) I have seen on the subject! The ONLY ONE that includes such important detail as the measurements of each device. Kudos and thank you guys!!!
Fantastic video! I was looking to get one of these in the next few days 0:24 Pic of all products used in test 5:27 Timed results chart (deck screw driving) 5:41 Weight of test products 5:56 Side to side measurements of products 6:06 Front to back measurements of products 9:50 Timed results chart (3 Lag bolts) 10:08 Temp increase chart (3 Lag bolts) 11:59 Temp increase chart (3 min of use) 13:36 Max Torque Test (in PSI) 14:42 Removing lug nuts (torqued to 100 ft lbs) 14:55 Test to failure (135 ft lbs and using Earthquake) 16:07 Overview
I was at the salvage yard removing a stereo off a Honda and needed a 90 degree driver to remove some bolts and a screw. I struggled using an offset screwdriver and a 1/4in ratchet in a tight space. Here I am again watching your videos to get phenomenal feedback on your test. Thanks!!
Having used these in a professional setting I can tell you that the full plastic Milwaukee and DeWalt impact rated ones are the only ones that will take abuse and keep on ticking Ive tried the full metal Matco ones and nearly broke my fingers when it locked up and the whole thing went to spinning. I replaced it many times until the Matco man gave me a metal Milwaukee that was significantly better but still broke about a year later. That's when I bought the plastic Milwaukee which has survived atleast 3 or 4 years of daily abuse and it is still ticking.
@@RadDadisRad if he is using Matco then he's in an environment where tools get a lot of use and some abuse. Much different than the average home or small jobs use.
perfect timing, I was just reading reviews to determine which one to get. Thanks for all the hard work you put into testing. Nothing worse than a tool that breaks on day 1 of the job.
A lot of different brands make flex shafts, i feel like that should be it's own video. whatever the case, i enjoyed this. i use the milwaukee (cheaper one) almost daily, it's worked great for years now.
@@ProjectFarm to add to this idea, I'd like to see which adapters have the least play (for example, turning carb adjustment screws in hard to reach places, which requires accuracy and little slop), and if there's any difference in ability to drive/remove hard to reach hardware (I break lots of exhaust manifold studs that are hard to reach). Drive some screws behind an obstacle and see which adapters are more likely to cause cam out?
This was great! Milwaukee has been my goto recently for power tools but their smaller tools seem to be hit and miss. Like the fact that they have a solidly built almost commercial grade product available for retail. Just to throw yet another idea on to the list, floor jacks might be interesting. There's a lot of weird brands, they vary greatly in price, some have major ergonomic issues, creep and clunky letdown. Would love to see the project farm pit stop...carry a 5 ton floor jack from the garage to the back of your truck and get the wheels off the ground haha.
I have trashed my fair share of floor jacks. The only on I've had hold up is a NAPA pro. I mean I get that people are prone to abuse floor jacks, but I've always oversized my lifting equipment and had a lot of brands fail.
did it surprise anyone else to see that a strong CCP/Chinese company like Milwaukee would have their best 90 degree angle tool built in Taiwan? Given all the political falderal between China and Taiwan, it just struck me as funny and ironic...
The Milwaukee ones which he tested are better than any commercial / professional versions which I have used. I use the fully plastic version daily in a professional setting and it takes some abuse and has been doing so for several years now.
I know these videos take so much time and money to do but they’re so satisfying to watch and extremely helpful in purchasing. I already pretty much knew I was going to get the Milwaukee 8510 but this video solidified my hunch. Thanks!
I recently bought the DeWalt DWARA 60 and this video has reassured me that I've bought a good angle adaptor. Seeing how much abuse it survived in the video it should certainly handle my use.
Bought mine in 2019. Use it occasionally. Works great. Is a must-have in a carpenter's tool box. I have noticed it heating up some but not to a level of concern. Only complaint in practical use is its thin and slippery, tubular form which can make it difficult to hold, causing it to turn and slip off the screw head in tight spaces. The Makita angle adapter seems to have a slightly better form in this regard but i haven't tested it.
I just had to do a 3.0 toyota valve cover job. Two back bank bolts broke off. Right up against the firewall. I bought a Dewalt 120 and it literally saved the day and drilled out the bolt, so I could retap. These things are amazing! What a lifesaver! I will probably grab an all metal Milwaukee one after seeing this test!
Love to see you test ratcheting wrenches, especially the flex head ones. Unfortunately I doubt you'll be done testing before I get a set, but always glad to see how my tools hold up to your tests anyway.
I’ve had plenty of experience with the DeWalt DWARAFS. It can take a bit of a beating but only lasted up to a week (I’ve owned a handful.) I’d use them for 3/8” bolts and torque them down. I definitely gave them a run for their money but I’d say I was pretty disappointed. They liked to freak out under torque and smack your hands and make you bleed.
I busted one of those plastic milwaukee angle drivers, teeth on the tapered gears sheered off. I believe it made about 20 or so 7/8 holes through wood with a diablo paddle bit over the course of several weeks. I wasn't upset, each of those holes wouldve been hell without it, didn't regret the 25 bucks. Replaced it the same day it broke, next day I saw the heavy duty milwaukee angle driver at a Ferguson in town, and it's been a life saver too. You put these things through more hell than I ever will, thanks for good science.
I was interested to see a comparison on circular saws (7-1/4"), hope that's on your radar! You've helped me make a lot of good choices on tools like impact bits, slip jaws, and tape measures :)
@@Cobyc5150 the rear handle/hypoid or the sidewinder/standard saw? Either way, both are great saws. The rear handle is more powerful but obviously heavier. The gears on the hypoid are basically a hybrid of a worm drive and sidewinder, hence being call a hypoid. Worm drive his more powerful than sidewinder, but sidewinders are more efficient. Hypoid you get the best of both worlds, just slightly less powerful than a worm drive.
90% of my use with them is hex drill bits with this tool run by a 3/8 snap on drill. I have found the cheap slim dewalt to hold the tightest circles with bits and handled far more abuse than my Milwaukee one. As always, awesome videos!
Bought the Dewalt 60 right before Black Friday with a bit kit for $15. Great deal. Last week I drilled three dozen holes (maybe 5-6 at a time) with a 1” self feeding paddle bit through 2x joists. No problem. It got warm and I was wondering how close I was taking it to it’s breaking point. Seems like I was ok.
@@UpInYourFeelings Half the trouble with admiring the ones that are 20 yrs old, is that "they don't make 'em like they used to". :) When I was in the market for a floor jack, I started with eBay and Craigslist, because I wanted one that was old and durable. I wound up just buying a new one that was rated for double the workload I needed it for, because everyone with a good old one is smart enough to hang on to it.
I own 2 of the DeFaulty models and 2 Milwaukee models and by far the Milwaukee 8510 is the best. The heavy and most expensive Milwaukee 8510 rad is unstoppable, I've had mine since it was first released which is gotta be around 20 years ago now and it's still going strong. I occasionally oil it in the small hole it has for oiling and has kept it going. If you're a person that can't justify paying the cost let me tell you it's a purchase you'll never regret. I prefer both the Milwaukee models but might use the Defaulty only for screws as they feel like toys and don't handle harder applications nearly as well. I've blown the Defaulty apart using spade bits in a double top plate in an attic but the Milwaukee 8510 didn't hesitate whatsoever. Whenever my 20 year old 8510 decides to die I will NOT hesitate to get another immediately and not think twice even though it might cost more now. It was $49 on original release.
Curious as to how much difference a generous helping of quality grease would make. That DW60 was quite impressive! I’d wager that the difference in thermal mass between each tool renders the temperature test to be almost useless. That huge chunk of steel on that Milwaukee would require a lot of heat to change much. The lug nut test told me all I need to know though! I’ve used an older version Milescraft for years, but it seems I have been treating it a lot more delicately than necessary. I’m going to have to get a DW60 and flog on it like it owes me money! I never dreamed those things could take that much abuse.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the temp test IS useful even with the thermal mass difference. I think this because it is showing off how well a tool can dissipate or transfer heat. A big thick piece of metal can absorb more energy or heat cooling down the gears even more. There is the downside of it holding all that heat longer, so it won't cool down as fast if you do get it too hot
I'll tell you from experience... I bought two of the Milwaukee 8510 for the nominal price here in Canada, but I regret my decision - it is overweight and bulky for its designed purpose..... when do you need to drive in 50+ 3/8" lags at 90deg in under 30 mins???? As an HVAC contractor I would much have rather bought the 2390 had it been offered...... Now I'm pretty much giving away "useless weight" to whoever wants it ..
I don't need to be lugging around that extra useless metal, especially up and down on commercial rooftop ladders, in the middle of a winter storm!! I like Milwaukee power tools, but some of their stuff is useless/overbuilt/crap
Any flex shaft tool has a very limited application, when you need them they might just save your project. I guess the same could be said about all these adapters, but you definitely proved that spending a bit more for these is worth it if you are doing anything heavy-duty. Very well made tests as always.
This channel has become a staple before I buy tools and accessories. I recently watched your video on impact bits before purchasing a set.. best set of bits I’ve ever owned. Thank you!!
Awesome video. Perhaps a video on knee pad inserts would be good. Finding a good set can be tough. Comfort is subjective, but there are a lot of objective tests that could be done too.
"I purchased 2 of each brand because we'll definitely be causing a lot of damage" Oh yeah! You are the best! BTW, Who would have thought doing small engine fuel and oil tests would bring you here!
@@ProjectFarm yep, I always get a kick out of the smiley cup on that one! delivering destruction with a smile.... BTW great tests, truly pushed it to the limits... I laughed when the air impact came out. Gotta break em!
This was my first Project Farm video and I really liked it. The tests seemed fairly objective in nature. While the Dewalt DWAMRA was not the top finisher in any of the tests, it didn't do horribly in most of them either. I am intrigued with its ability to be used as a standard length, or a compact right angle tool. Unfortunately, this was not talked about in the video. I am wondering what Project Farm, or anybody else, thinks about this two in one capacity? Is getting this two in one capacity of sufficient value to buy this right angle tool instead of one of the similarly priced ones that may have scored a bit better? Going further, is a compact right angle tool even that useful? Thanks!
a good flexible shaft extension is important to have but that wasn't the test here and it seldom turns out that you get a 2 for 1 with good tools. That dwarma may work for 70% of your applications but often enough you'll be left saying "I should have got the other tool!" - which is something we've all said to often to ever want to say it again. Oh, and with it you still only have two hands so one to hold the driver/drill, one to stabilize the flexible shaft and one to put pressure on the head... ooops, I'm bad at math, too.
Welcome to The Farm, you're going to love it here. Seriously though... Todd is my number one who to for consumer product testing, but usually I find myself just watching because I find the tests interesting.
I actually have the DeWalt kit with all the pieces, and while it may not be as strong as the Milwaukee, I really like its modularity. I have used it several times and have needed to swap pieces for different screws, where the modularity of it really came in handy. I would never use it to the abusive levels done here, so it should hold up fine. While the Milwaukee is clearly the most robust unit, it doesn't have the modularity of the DeWalt, which certainly was a factor in its strength.
I just ordered the Milwaukee tool based on your test results. Thank you for all the tests. They have proved to be valuable to me a few times now. Very time consuming for you I’m sure. I would be interested in seeing a comparison on larger coolers for hunting/fishing/camping for an extended period of time. Are the newer ones worth the $$$ or traditional ones good enough? I would also like to see a comparison on torque wrenches if possible. Keep up the awesome videos!
Another awesome video! Though wondering if it would make more sense to use a corded tool instead of a battery tool when doing the comparisons, to ensure there isn’t any noticeable voltage loss throughout the tests. Or did you account for that?
Maybe he has multiple batteries and swaps batteries for recharge on a charging station? Have you considered that possibility? Also modern batteries are not like the batteries of the 90's.... they provide a steady charge until the end, not drop off steadily over time
I’ve come to like your tests and find them to be more meaningful and more scientifically designed than most I see on UA-cam. You’re one of the few channels to which I have subscribed. That being said, I would really like to comment on your voice and delivery. My gosh, you would make a good sportscaster or calling horse races or probably even an auctioneer. Very good and very fast delivery and clear and very understandable.
I’d really love to see some tests done comparing 1/2 drive to 1/4 hex adapters. To see which is really the best. There aren’t many videos out there comparing or even previewing them.
Your testing methods are always superb, I look forward to seeing your videos every sunday, and I always check your channel to see what you found to be the best before I make a purchase
Just seems like most of the tool tests with Milwaukee they either win, or do very well overall. You've made be a believer of their products after several of your videos!
In defense of cheap tools -- I have a little angle adapter like the Autohometool you tested. I've never used it with a power tool, but I've found it very hand for dealing with screws in awkward places, e.g., it was the only thing I had that could remove the screws from the rear deck speakers in one of my cars. A bigger tool wouldn't fit. I would expect it to self-destruct in short order if I were to use it with my CORDED Milwaukee impact drill! After seeing this video, however, I think I can drop $25 on a Milwaukee adapter that will ultimately prove more useful. Great video as always!
Great video as always! Timely, too. I just bought a right-angle adapter for my Dremel 400 series rotary tool, and I am loving it, so I suspect an RAA for my drill will not be far behind. Also, if you haven't done one on this tool already, I'd love to see a comparison of digital calipers!
I have the dewalt flex shaft and the 3 piece dewalt and they are life savers when your in a tight spot. To be fair I think the flex shaft set ups should have their own test. They are expected to be used for more lightweight duties. It was cool to see that it could hold up to the torture of that hydraulic test. Awesome as always.
Great testing as always, they’re very educational and beneficial to consumers. I’ve watched all of your films. How about doing a test with waterproof can or bottle sprays on just tents/ponchos natural fabric or light synthetic materials??? I’ve used them on my camping gears but very curious to know who’s best out there in the markets. Thx
Really good tests, one thing though, when removing the lug nuts, the nuts can become more difficult as other are removed, as the weight of the vehicle is being loaded on to the remaining nuts that are holding the wheel in place. But the final impact wrench test really showed who was boss! Great Vid.
Awesome test! I really loved the breakdown of the internals. Keep it up, plenty more like Makita, RyobI, and others to add to this test group. You really are my favorite channel. Keep up the amazing work! Every tradesperson I know watches your videos.
@@ProjectFarm - I am considering buying the "AUCO Durable Right Angle Drill Attachment Adapter, Impact Fit, Max Torque 500 in-lbs (56.5 Nm), All Tough Metal Body and Steel Gear" as available on Amazon. Looks to be similar to the Milwaukee 8510 for $20 less. Would be curious to see how it holds up!
The flex shaft dewalt might not be the strongest but that flexibility is just so convenient. I didn’t even know they had something like that, it’s honestly pretty amazing. Definitely going to get one. It doesn’t work for every application but for the ones it does work on, it just makes the job so much easier.
I bought the Milwaukee 49-22-8510 about 15 years ago for about $100. (Back then, it was sold under the AEG brand name.) At the time, I thought it was expensive, albeit of exceptional build quality. But since then, it has turned many impossible situations into easily doable ones, never letting me down. Excellent tool that I have never regretted buying.
Glad to see the Milscraft I chose on whim, because it was cheap, didn’t do too badly. Great video as always! When the Milscraft broke though, it looked like the shaft on the 1/4 hex to 1/2 drive adaptor broke instead of the Milscraft, or am I seeing that wrong?
Absolutely love your videos. Potential video idea for you: is it beneficial to run an engine off of propane rather than gasoline. I recently converted a 2000 W generator to propane after hearing several testimonials of how much cleaner the propane burns resulting in longer engine life and longer time in between oil changes. I like the convenience of not having to worry about gas going bad or buying ethanol free but I have noticed a few negatives; harder to start the engine (even with a spark plug upgrade), not as much power, and not as much runtime if I were to use an equivalent amount of gasoline. Would love to see your take!
Great video. What I'd really like to know based on my experience with a couple of these types of adapters that were not featured in this video is: How is the bit retention? The two I have used and ended up returning in short order had me chasing the driver bit on the floor every time I lifted it off the screw. Very irritating and time wasting.
I have owned my Dewalt for a while now. I thought I was going to burn it out once with drilling for an extended period of time, but it held up just fine. I was really impressed.
Hey do you get paid by UA-cam when they play their ridiculous ads for disney and or other BS ads? Just curious because I like your videos but the ads are getting super annoying.
Just a little appreciation. Thanks for your hard work! If you had to pick of the two Milwaukee's which you go with? I'm wondering if the price difference is justified of the $59 one.
For occasional use, I'd go with the less expensive option. The more expensive option is going to outlast. Thanks so much for your support to the channel.
The only minor complaint I could ever have for your channel is the speed of your delivery (talking). Perhaps you feel it's necessary or the video lengths will be too long? Of course, I suppose people like me can pause your video, and then try to think for a second - absorbing what you just said - then restarting, and so on, but it's not quite the same as receiving the info at a different, steady, but slightly slower rate. I sometimes miss facts due to the speed you present them. - And no, I don't have this trouble w/ any other UA-cam channel. Besides, your channel can be more than just a source of quick information - though it is a goldmine in that respect. Thanks for the great work!
Here’s the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you!
DeWalt with 12 inch Shaft: amzn.to/3lQi5RJ
Milwaukee 49-22-8510: amzn.to/3rUn47P
Milwaukee 48-32-2390: amzn.to/3GBuW2u
Milescraft: amzn.to/3rRh7c1
Yakamoz: amzn.to/3lQIcby
Autotoolhome: amzn.to/3pSnlpw
DEWALT (DWARA120): amzn.to/3IQhRnV
Westward: amzn.to/3Gz6TB3
Hiya. Would you consider doing a test between 40v Makita angle drillvs 54v dewalt angle drill.
These both seem like powerful tools but making a choice is difficult. Which tools do you recommend, Dewalt vs Makita? Thank you
As the sole designer/engineer/R&D employee of the Milescraft one I'm happy with how it held up. It was literally the first thing I designed in my career. *shrug*
Love your videos. Keep it up.
Thanks, will do!
Time to design a new version that is impact rated? :)
Be proud my man. How's your career now?
@@mihailo90 Great, still designing consumer products. Absolutely love my job.
@@DavidLarson15 loved reading this comment. Keep it up
I really appreciate how he uses practical tests on theses brands. He doesn’t show any kinda favoritism. Honestly 100% appreciate your work.
Considering this was a torque test more than anything, I have to say that dewalt flex shaft is perfectly fine when it's general use, such as my last job where I worked on vehicle interiors. A lot easier to deal with a flex shaft over a static position right angle adapter to get hard to reach screws and bolts.
Using the right tool for the job. Personally, I don't like these stress-to-fail tests. This is not really how most tools die.
It's definitely more for light duty use than high torque. I blew mine apart trying to use it to drill 1/2 in holes in the top of a wall frame. If you've got it full speed and it's not perfectly aligned it likes to bind and spin like a pin wheel, with a sharp bit on the end!
@@tarstarkusz how do most tools die?
As an electrician, the flex shaft is junk
@@RevelationAV They wear out and some die due to fatigue. Fatigue is not the same thing as push to fail. Push to fail is going way past the design limit. Fatigue is where the tool dies well within spec.
Such a good idea, and clever tests as always. Can't believe this content is free. You're doing the world a great service. Thank you.
Thank you very much! I absolutely love the freedom to test products without ANY pressure from manufacturers.
We are paying by watching the ads. I'm not bashing the channel, PF is awesome, just correcting the "free" part.
it's not free you pay for your phone plan. and home internet plus you have e to not look at commercials 10 times in a video and you waste your valuable time.
Very true. Great point.
It's not free. You're the product.
The words that strike fear into manufacturers: "we're gonna test that!"
Great test, thank you!
Thank you!
Whenever Project Farm buys 2 of everything and says 'we're gonna test that' multiple times you know things are going to get spicy. He never disappoints.
Lol, Thank you!
You ain't neva lie! Lol
I enjoy these videos
Never a truer statement
Exactly what I thought too
I took a shot every time the word screw was said... I'm now seeing double 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This guy is the king of unbiased product testing. A national treasure. You're doing gods work my man!
Thank you!
He gives UL laboratory a run for their money!.🤠👍
Oh man, what would we do without you. The real life scenarios are what makes your testing so relevant to whoever need the test specific application.
Thanks for the time and effort.
Thank you!
When I was an auto glass tech, these things were indispensable. I still have my Milwaukee angle driver from 10 years ago.
Also, from watching many of your videos, both DeWalt and Milwaukee seem to really care about what their name gets attached to. Can't go wrong with either brand.
Good Point! Thanks for watching!
I think your right in most cases. Unfortunately though when they have their misses they are usually very bad which is confusing to me. It causes me to considering to look elsewhere sometimes. But hey that is why we love @Project Farm because he does all the testing for us so we don't have to guess at it lol.
@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r yeah I agree. But they tend to be smaller tools/less critical items. Like I had a Milwaukee utility knife that was a steaming turd. But their main line tools or specialty tools tend to be very good quality.
@@not-a-raccoon Which knife did you get? Their fastbacks are amazing IMO.
@@TheHeadincharge I forget, but I didn't like it at all.
I got that Milwaukee $60 right angle drill bit about two decades ago when it was still only $29. And it still holds up very well today. With moderate to heavy use
Nice!
Very common Milwaukee W
Every time I'm shopping for tools/accessories, I just know Project Farm has a video to help. If a brand I'm considering isn't in a PF video I usually end up not getting it and choose one of the PF recommended products. This channel provides so much value, not just financially but also in entertainment. I am a hobbyist and independent motorcycle mechanic. These videos are a godsend and have helped me greatly in saving me time and money. I can't thank you enough for what you do.
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for having the inset box with a picture of each tool as you went over the graphs! That saves going back for visual checks. I think build quality and the screw and bolt driving are the most useful tests here. The max torque tests are interesting, but you could almost always use a wrench or socket and breaker bar to loosen very tight bolts anywhere a right angle drive would fit.
I think it indicates how much headroom you have with the device. The more over spec it is, the longer it will likely last.
This is where the whole test to failure concept comes from. Unless you break it you don't know where it's limits are.
Thank you!
There came a time where I had to use a drill, one of these adaptors, about (3) 12 inch extensions, and a 3/4 spade bit to drill holes through ceiling joists to run a wire for a recessed lighting. My flexible drill bit did nothing. A huge amount of torque was required. At one point, the shaft for the spade bit snapped. Still, the adaptor remained strong.
A very useful and low cost adapter to have on hand. Nothing like a good tool torture test. :-) Thanks for the great testing video! A++
You are welcome!
@@ProjectFarm do a review on brushless DeWalt and Craftsman tools... Since they are both owned by the same company. One is definitely cheaper than the other and is it all just branding that makes the difference??? Impact drivers, regular drills... I mean even their job site stacking tool boxes are interchangeable.... Including the radios? So is it over hype to buy DeWalt?
@@ProjectFarm Thanks for the videos! Any plans to find out which 3/8" socket set is best? Would love to see you putting non-impact socket sets to the test by looking at their max torque before they break, corrosion resistance, and ability to withstand impact use, etc. I'd like to see you compare Tekton, Milwaukee, and whichever others!
@@ProjectFarm thanks!
@@ProjectFarm you should do testing on space heaters.
When Project Farm says, “We’re gonna test that!” He doesn’t mean just a little wear and tear, he’s gonna destroy it for the viewers to see what to spend their hard earned money on 👍
Lol, Thank you!
Would be fun to see him test blenders and the like.
This helps him get rid of all those extra tools, break the crappy ones! ;)
Thanks for the review! I have had the $59 Milwaukee for more than ten years now. It was quite pricey (for me), but I like sturdy tools with longevity. The adapter has helped me out of lots of (literally) tight spots, and continues to work flawlessly to this day! I have performed three flat renovations and a complete family house refurbishment with it during these years.
I've had mine since very first release which has to be nearly 20 years old now. The investment is so good that I won't think twice getting a new once mine finally gives up.
Likewise former pool and spa technician, and I'll also have to say it's a game changer.
It’s the same one I own got it about 10 years ago and it works today
Have you used it to drill through wood with a paddle bit?
I've carried a Dewalt 60 in my tool bags for years after destroying numerous other brands while steel-stud framing. It's compact size and durability make it my best option. I found one at Home Depot on Black Friday this year with a set of tips for $10 I'm giving to a co-worker for Christmas.
I have bought several in a kit as well that had other bits and driver tips as well. 12.95 for me.
Thanks for sharing.
I bought that same set this year. Great deal considering they sell it alone for $20!
I had no idea such a tool existed, but it definitely looks like I need one now and know which one to buy. Thanks, Todd!
It's a "must have" tool at times. Thank you!
I picked up the dewalt one that came in free on a bit and drill kit that costed anywhere from 9.99- 14.99 at Home Depot for BlackFriday.
The two phrases guaranteed to make my day:
"We're going to test that!"
And
"Very impressive!"
Thanks as always for your videos!
You are welcome!
Don’t forget
“That’s a lot of damage!”
My girlfriend says it all the time now lol
The thoroughness of your tests are most impressive. And I venture to say you have saved people hundreds if not thousands watching your videos. Always enjoy watching them. And your sense of humor adds to that enjoyment.
Thank you!
Best channel on UA-cam. You don’t understand what kind of a hero you are. Finally someone putting brands to serious tests! We work too hard to blow our money on garbage.
Thanks!
I didn’t know these even existed 6 months ago, now I reach for these all the time. I’ve used them to drill holes in tight spaces (with hex keyed bits) tighten and loosen fasteners in places that would usually require an extensive amount of time to get to otherwise. Probably the most useful is the screws that hold on the wheel well of Chevy Silverados when we need to remove a bumper.
Thanks for sharing. Glad to hear!
remember going gaga when saw/got a grandaddy of these 40 yrs ago...miss it a lot...lost in the housefire,along with the rest of the tools,last nov...it took the firetruck 30 min to go from the fire station at the top of the hill to my house at the bottom of the same hill, go figure...if this mechanic fixed cars the way these guys do their job, we'd all be walking...plus you cant sue the fire dept here in canuckstan
I've been using the Milwaukee 8510 for years now and it's a real workhorse. I have no fears throwing a 1-1/2-in spade bit in it and drilling through pine, poplar or oak joists or beams. The adjustable handle is prone to coming loose, so you have to be careful storing it in your pocket and walking around. I've lost parts on it that way when the screw handle came out and the adjustment pieces scattered around. This is definitely a case of "you get what you pay for."
Thanks for the feedback.
@Ross Radford In soft studs you should be able to drill 3/4 inch holes all day long. The only thing you need to be careful of is hitting nails. That can cause the drill to twist in unexpected way and can be dangerous (I got my finger jammed really hard between a stud and the drill once when the whole thing twisted and locked up on my finger). It's actually safer to drill with an impact since it won't twist when the bit jams.
Thrilled that the Dewalt 60 made it through the showdown! I’ve used that model at work for a couple years now and it’s a great little tool. Great review as always!
Strange that it didn't get his nod for durability given it was the only one that didn't overtly fail.
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
I have said it before ,”You are the Man !” Its so great to have someone taking the time and effort to adequately test these products!
You are welcome!
Love the couple of small but super helpful improvements you made!!
- testing multiple common models of each brand
- showing the video in the corner of which model you're talking about when going through the chart. Before I always had trouble following the comparisons since they're not in the same order chart by chart.
Thank you!
Thanks!
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The Dewalt 60 (or similar) regularly comes as a bonus item in impact bit kits. I got mine in an impact drill & driver kit. It is good for what it is and I've had no issues with it. Since I needed the bits, I consider it a free bonus. And you can regularly find the bit kits with Dewalt 60 on sale for cheaper than the Dewalt 60 by itself. I use a Ryobi one+ HP impact driver (not with a HP battery) with this and it works great. I recommend the Dewalt 60.
Thanks for the feedback.
I got that kit too near black Fri for $10. That's why I got it. Great deal for bits & adapter. Can't say I will b beating the crap out of it so I'm sure it'll b fine. Just a nice bonus item for hard to reach areas
Only bad part is taking the bit out…only comes out with pliers. Its set in little to far
Same, I snagged that bundle for the right angle adapter with the bits as a bonus
@@Bremend Mine has a little hole in the back to poke the bit out with a #1 phillips or anything smaller than that. I do have an older version though (about 2012).
The flex shaft Dewalt can be a sketchy situation if you don't have a good hold on that head and you're drilling. I was using it to do electrical work and drill 1/2" holes in wall headers where the roof made it a hard to reach area. If you're not holding on to that head it will kink and spin the whole thing. The all metal fixed version is much easier to control in awkward positions where you're likely using these.
Thanks for the feedback.
I'm a tradesman & this guy is one of the very best for the most thorough tool & accessory tests.
Saves me a lot of money and wasted time. Very few other tool test channels even come close.
The rapid fire no nonsense narrative is amazing. But Tool Torque Test is also excellent
Thanks!
Oh wow, just noticed the corner shot of the item being talked about
That's a great addition 👍
Thank you for letting me know. I'll try to do that more often
I have had the $60 Milwaukee for about 8 years. It is a beast, still as good as when it was new. The little handle helps big time in many situations.
Thanks for the feedback.
so just as useless as the day you brought it? lol
@@frequenttuna4819 Ha Ha!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Very impressive test. It is nice to see the increased amount of information including the pictures of the brand from the chart. I have used the Milescraft driver for about 5 years now, It has worked very well with no noticeable issues.
I have used a off brand and still have it (It is at 45 deg angle, works well servicing candy machines, but has early proto technology-sloppy gears)
The high priced Milwaukee seems to be made very well and if I need a long term HD 90 deg adapter that seems to be the one.
Thank you again for the increased information and the many products you take to the extreme abuse limits.
Thank you!
If there is one thing to learn from your videos its that thier is no one set company many people get stuck on one brand and that all they will buy tools blades bits etc but your videos always prove that just because one brand has best tools doent mean they make the best blades bits etc as always great video and Merry Christmas project farm
Thanks! Merry Christmas.
Great comparisons. Well done 👍
Thank you!
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I really like the thumbnails of the product being visible while you do the data recap. It makes it much easier for me to follow, thank so much for all your hard work.
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
Always look forward to these Sunday tests and project farm never fails to deliver! Thank you so much for what you do
Thank you very much! The kind comments mean a LOT to me!!
I've used several brands over the years. The basic Dewalts have served me the best. For my application of mostly tek screws in sheet metal, or various wood screws, their balance of size and durability have worked the best.
Thanks for the feedback.
Nice timely review of angle adapters, I was looking at them on Amazon and your review helped with my decision making. I love how you pushed them to breaking, since most of us won't have the time and budget to do so on our own.
Thanks! Glad I could help.
Would love to see a comparison between carb cleaners or electronic cleaners in a can. I use them daily to clean almost anything not just carbs or electronics but glue on plastic that alcohol can't get of and acetone will destroy the plastic surface. Please consider this
Thank you for the video idea!
You can tell he tries his best not to be biased, but his love for Milwaukee peaks through a bit. Hard not to do with such a great and proven brand.
I've abused the heck out of my Milwaukee (expensive one) for 10+ years for bolts and screws with impact drivers/wrenches. The adjustable handle has made it worth every penny especially when drilling holes at weird angles. Great video as always!
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
It used to amaze me how consistently the Milwaukee tools were at or near the top of each test. Now its come to be expected, and this one was no different. Great job as always!
Thanks so much!
I used to work for Milwaukee Power Tools as my first job out of college and they do make quality stuff. The major thing that I noticed is that they have field research teams that go out to jobsites and asks real contractors and laborers what could make their day easier or their tools work better and they take all that information to make the best tool the can for the price. The tools are still made in China but they really do put in a lot of real use research by asking the people who use the tools the most what they can improve.
@@mOOOp42 as long as they pay their assembly workers fair wages...
@@walterbrunswick So technically they don't have any assembly workers similar to how Apple manufactures products. They hire a third-party assembly company similar to the likes of Foxconn (the manufacturer of all Apple products) to manufacture all their products overseas.
@@mOOOp42 that's cap. I've been doing construction for 5 years never been approached by a Milwaukee rep. My boss has been for 50+ says he's never been either.
These adapters are worth their weight in gold when you're working in cramped auto interiors. I own both the Milwaukee units, but Dewault looks like its a good choice as well. Great job, as always, Todd. P.S. - How are your forearms after the screw driver workout? Can you fold a frying pan yet? lol
I still don’t understand how he didn’t put himself out of action with the scissors test, I would’ve had an RSI for a month.
@@Jonathan_Doe_ Haha, no kidding, I'm sure he's still having nightmares about it.
Great video.
I've mentioned that I don't want to arm wrestle any time soon in one of his videos! Still true today!
Dewalt's have a discount right know at Homedepot, 14 dollars and comes with more impacts bits.
Two years later still one of the best videos (if not the best) I have seen on the subject! The ONLY ONE that includes such important detail as the measurements of each device. Kudos and thank you guys!!!
Thanks and you are welcome!
super cool video! you always put so much efford in your videos! you also compare and test them very well!
Thank you very much!
This is one of the most legit & useful channels on UA-cam!
Thanks!
Fantastic video!
I was looking to get one of these in the next few days
0:24 Pic of all products used in test
5:27 Timed results chart (deck screw driving)
5:41 Weight of test products
5:56 Side to side measurements of products
6:06 Front to back measurements of products
9:50 Timed results chart (3 Lag bolts)
10:08 Temp increase chart (3 Lag bolts)
11:59 Temp increase chart (3 min of use)
13:36 Max Torque Test (in PSI)
14:42 Removing lug nuts (torqued to 100 ft lbs)
14:55 Test to failure (135 ft lbs and using Earthquake)
16:07 Overview
I was at the salvage yard removing a stereo off a Honda and needed a 90 degree driver to remove some bolts and a screw. I struggled using an offset screwdriver and a 1/4in ratchet in a tight space. Here I am again watching your videos to get phenomenal feedback on your test. Thanks!!
You are welcome!
Having used these in a professional setting I can tell you that the full plastic Milwaukee and DeWalt impact rated ones are the only ones that will take abuse and keep on ticking
Ive tried the full metal Matco ones and nearly broke my fingers when it locked up and the whole thing went to spinning. I replaced it many times until the Matco man gave me a metal Milwaukee that was significantly better but still broke about a year later. That's when I bought the plastic Milwaukee which has survived atleast 3 or 4 years of daily abuse and it is still ticking.
I have the full metal Milwaukee and it’s lasted 15 years
Thanks for the feedback.
@@RadDadisRad if he is using Matco then he's in an environment where tools get a lot of use and some abuse. Much different than the average home or small jobs use.
Are you an automechanic? If so, is it true that the manufacturers provide you with special tools at a dealership only that can't be bought ?
Wow. Thanks for the info!
perfect timing, I was just reading reviews to determine which one to get. Thanks for all the hard work you put into testing. Nothing worse than a tool that breaks on day 1 of the job.
Thanks and you are welcome!
A lot of different brands make flex shafts, i feel like that should be it's own video. whatever the case, i enjoyed this. i use the milwaukee (cheaper one) almost daily, it's worked great for years now.
Great video idea!! Thank you
I second this idea! Would love to see the limits of those flex shaft versions
@@ProjectFarm to add to this idea, I'd like to see which adapters have the least play (for example, turning carb adjustment screws in hard to reach places, which requires accuracy and little slop), and if there's any difference in ability to drive/remove hard to reach hardware (I break lots of exhaust manifold studs that are hard to reach). Drive some screws behind an obstacle and see which adapters are more likely to cause cam out?
This is the channel us guys subscribe to while watching in their mancave/garage enjoying a cold one. Eat your heart out ladies!!!!
This was great! Milwaukee has been my goto recently for power tools but their smaller tools seem to be hit and miss. Like the fact that they have a solidly built almost commercial grade product available for retail.
Just to throw yet another idea on to the list, floor jacks might be interesting. There's a lot of weird brands, they vary greatly in price, some have major ergonomic issues, creep and clunky letdown. Would love to see the project farm pit stop...carry a 5 ton floor jack from the garage to the back of your truck and get the wheels off the ground haha.
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
I have trashed my fair share of floor jacks. The only on I've had hold up is a NAPA pro. I mean I get that people are prone to abuse floor jacks, but I've always oversized my lifting equipment and had a lot of brands fail.
Or maybe put the jack under the hydraulic press and see when they explode 😈
did it surprise anyone else to see that a strong CCP/Chinese company like Milwaukee would have their best 90 degree angle tool built in Taiwan? Given all the political falderal between China and Taiwan, it just struck me as funny and ironic...
The Milwaukee ones which he tested are better than any commercial / professional versions which I have used. I use the fully plastic version daily in a professional setting and it takes some abuse and has been doing so for several years now.
I know these videos take so much time and money to do but they’re so satisfying to watch and extremely helpful in purchasing. I already pretty much knew I was going to get the Milwaukee 8510 but this video solidified my hunch. Thanks!
Thank you!
I recently bought the DeWalt DWARA 60 and this video has reassured me that I've bought a good angle adaptor. Seeing how much abuse it survived in the video it should certainly handle my use.
Thanks for sharing.
Bought mine in 2019. Use it occasionally. Works great. Is a must-have in a carpenter's tool box. I have noticed it heating up some but not to a level of concern. Only complaint in practical use is its thin and slippery, tubular form which can make it difficult to hold, causing it to turn and slip off the screw head in tight spaces. The Makita angle adapter seems to have a slightly better form in this regard but i haven't tested it.
I just had to do a 3.0 toyota valve cover job. Two back bank bolts broke off. Right up against the firewall. I bought a Dewalt 120 and it literally saved the day and drilled out the bolt, so I could retap. These things are amazing! What a lifesaver! I will probably grab an all metal Milwaukee one after seeing this test!
Thanks for sharing.
I literally have been looking to get one of these the past couple visits to the store but haven't pulled the trigger, perfect timing! 👍🏼
Perfect timing!
Love to see you test ratcheting wrenches, especially the flex head ones. Unfortunately I doubt you'll be done testing before I get a set, but always glad to see how my tools hold up to your tests anyway.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I’ve had plenty of experience with the DeWalt DWARAFS. It can take a bit of a beating but only lasted up to a week (I’ve owned a handful.) I’d use them for 3/8” bolts and torque them down. I definitely gave them a run for their money but I’d say I was pretty disappointed. They liked to freak out under torque and smack your hands and make you bleed.
Thanks for sharing.
Buy the milwaukee 8510, you'll never regret it.
I busted one of those plastic milwaukee angle drivers, teeth on the tapered gears sheered off. I believe it made about 20 or so 7/8 holes through wood with a diablo paddle bit over the course of several weeks. I wasn't upset, each of those holes wouldve been hell without it, didn't regret the 25 bucks. Replaced it the same day it broke, next day I saw the heavy duty milwaukee angle driver at a Ferguson in town, and it's been a life saver too.
You put these things through more hell than I ever will, thanks for good science.
You aree welcome!
I was interested to see a comparison on circular saws (7-1/4"), hope that's on your radar! You've helped me make a lot of good choices on tools like impact bits, slip jaws, and tape measures :)
Thanks for the video idea.
I just bought a makita 36v 7-1/4, I really excited to see the results!!
@@Cobyc5150 the rear handle/hypoid or the sidewinder/standard saw? Either way, both are great saws. The rear handle is more powerful but obviously heavier. The gears on the hypoid are basically a hybrid of a worm drive and sidewinder, hence being call a hypoid. Worm drive his more powerful than sidewinder, but sidewinders are more efficient. Hypoid you get the best of both worlds, just slightly less powerful than a worm drive.
Andrej, i thought he did a comparison or circ saws. May have been the 61/2, but not 100% sure. I just remember seeing him test circ saws a while back
I've put a few of these through their paces with Ford exhaust manifold bolts and other jobs so I had to immediately click 👍
Great point! Only a couple of them can survive a hard hitting impact tool!
90% of my use with them is hex drill bits with this tool run by a 3/8 snap on drill. I have found the cheap slim dewalt to hold the tightest circles with bits and handled far more abuse than my Milwaukee one. As always, awesome videos!
Bought the Dewalt 60 right before Black Friday with a bit kit for $15. Great deal.
Last week I drilled three dozen holes (maybe 5-6 at a time) with a 1” self feeding paddle bit through 2x joists. No problem. It got warm and I was wondering how close I was taking it to it’s breaking point. Seems like I was ok.
I just picked up that same kit at HD about 6 hours ago. $15 bucks well spent!
Thanks for sharing.
I did too. - Surprisingly, the Dewalt 60 itself doesn't have the model # on it. I just got it out to look at it for these tests.
that's how I blew mine apart, I won't ever get another one. I'll stay with my 20 yo 8510 till it dies then replace it with another.
@@UpInYourFeelings Half the trouble with admiring the ones that are 20 yrs old, is that "they don't make 'em like they used to". :) When I was in the market for a floor jack, I started with eBay and Craigslist, because I wanted one that was old and durable. I wound up just buying a new one that was rated for double the workload I needed it for, because everyone with a good old one is smart enough to hang on to it.
I own 2 of the DeFaulty models and 2 Milwaukee models and by far the Milwaukee 8510 is the best. The heavy and most expensive Milwaukee 8510 rad is unstoppable, I've had mine since it was first released which is gotta be around 20 years ago now and it's still going strong. I occasionally oil it in the small hole it has for oiling and has kept it going. If you're a person that can't justify paying the cost let me tell you it's a purchase you'll never regret. I prefer both the Milwaukee models but might use the Defaulty only for screws as they feel like toys and don't handle harder applications nearly as well. I've blown the Defaulty apart using spade bits in a double top plate in an attic but the Milwaukee 8510 didn't hesitate whatsoever. Whenever my 20 year old 8510 decides to die I will NOT hesitate to get another immediately and not think twice even though it might cost more now. It was $49 on original release.
Was literally just looking at these hopping you’d post a video about them😂 love the videos man. Thanks for all the work you do!
Perfect timing! Thank you!
Curious as to how much difference a generous helping of quality grease would make. That DW60 was quite impressive! I’d wager that the difference in thermal mass between each tool renders the temperature test to be almost useless. That huge chunk of steel on that Milwaukee would require a lot of heat to change much. The lug nut test told me all I need to know though! I’ve used an older version Milescraft for years, but it seems I have been treating it a lot more delicately than necessary. I’m going to have to get a DW60 and flog on it like it owes me money! I never dreamed those things could take that much abuse.
Grease would of helped the ones with failed housing but only hurt the ones with failed gear teeth.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the temp test IS useful even with the thermal mass difference. I think this because it is showing off how well a tool can dissipate or transfer heat. A big thick piece of metal can absorb more energy or heat cooling down the gears even more. There is the downside of it holding all that heat longer, so it won't cool down as fast if you do get it too hot
Thanks for sharing.
I'll tell you from experience...
I bought two of the Milwaukee 8510 for the nominal price here in Canada, but I regret my decision - it is overweight and bulky for its designed purpose..... when do you need to drive in 50+ 3/8" lags at 90deg in under 30 mins????
As an HVAC contractor I would much have rather bought the 2390 had it been offered......
Now I'm pretty much giving away "useless weight" to whoever wants it ..
I don't need to be lugging around that extra useless metal, especially up and down on commercial rooftop ladders, in the middle of a winter storm!!
I like Milwaukee power tools, but some of their stuff is useless/overbuilt/crap
Any flex shaft tool has a very limited application, when you need them they might just save your project. I guess the same could be said about all these adapters, but you definitely proved that spending a bit more for these is worth it if you are doing anything heavy-duty. Very well made tests as always.
Thanks!
Agreed ..for flex shaft foredom tools always seemed the best to me. Battery powered I just got the best Dremel I could get
This channel has become a staple before I buy tools and accessories. I recently watched your video on impact bits before purchasing a set.. best set of bits I’ve ever owned. Thank you!!
Awesome video. Perhaps a video on knee pad inserts would be good. Finding a good set can be tough. Comfort is subjective, but there are a lot of objective tests that could be done too.
Thank you for the video idea!
Yeah I use kneepads almost daily. Would be great to see comparisons!
Yes, great suggestion 👍
"I purchased 2 of each brand because we'll definitely be causing a lot of damage"
Oh yeah! You are the best!
BTW, Who would have thought doing small engine fuel and oil tests would bring you here!
lol. I really miss the fun of the engine test. Remember the "sand eater" video?
@@ProjectFarm yep, I always get a kick out of the smiley cup on that one! delivering destruction with a smile....
BTW great tests, truly pushed it to the limits... I laughed when the air impact came out. Gotta break em!
This was my first Project Farm video and I really liked it. The tests seemed fairly objective in nature.
While the Dewalt DWAMRA was not the top finisher in any of the tests, it didn't do horribly in most of them either. I am intrigued with its ability to be used as a standard length, or a compact right angle tool. Unfortunately, this was not talked about in the video. I am wondering what Project Farm, or anybody else, thinks about this two in one capacity? Is getting this two in one capacity of sufficient value to buy this right angle tool instead of one of the similarly priced ones that may have scored a bit better? Going further, is a compact right angle tool even that useful?
Thanks!
a good flexible shaft extension is important to have but that wasn't the test here and it seldom turns out that you get a 2 for 1 with good tools. That dwarma may work for 70% of your applications but often enough you'll be left saying "I should have got the other tool!" - which is something we've all said to often to ever want to say it again. Oh, and with it you still only have two hands so one to hold the driver/drill, one to stabilize the flexible shaft and one to put pressure on the head... ooops, I'm bad at math, too.
Welcome to The Farm, you're going to love it here. Seriously though... Todd is my number one who to for consumer product testing, but usually I find myself just watching because I find the tests interesting.
I actually have the DeWalt kit with all the pieces, and while it may not be as strong as the Milwaukee, I really like its modularity. I have used it several times and have needed to swap pieces for different screws, where the modularity of it really came in handy. I would never use it to the abusive levels done here, so it should hold up fine. While the Milwaukee is clearly the most robust unit, it doesn't have the modularity of the DeWalt, which certainly was a factor in its strength.
I've had the 8510 for about 9 years now, it's one of my favorite tools. Saves me from working too hard
Thanks for the feedback.
It’s always a treat to see the tool you own being tested up against other brands.
Thanks Todd! 👍
You are welcome!
I just ordered the Milwaukee tool based on your test results. Thank you for all the tests. They have proved to be valuable to me a few times now. Very time consuming for you I’m sure. I would be interested in seeing a comparison on larger coolers for hunting/fishing/camping for an extended period of time. Are the newer ones worth the $$$ or traditional ones good enough? I would also like to see a comparison on torque wrenches if possible. Keep up the awesome videos!
Thanks, will do! Thanks for the suggestions.
Another awesome video! Though wondering if it would make more sense to use a corded tool instead of a battery tool when doing the comparisons, to ensure there isn’t any noticeable voltage loss throughout the tests. Or did you account for that?
Maybe he has multiple batteries and swaps batteries for recharge on a charging station?
Have you considered that possibility?
Also modern batteries are not like the batteries of the 90's.... they provide a steady charge until the end, not drop off steadily over time
@Mike S these are impact drivers, not drills
I’ve come to like your tests and find them to be more meaningful and more scientifically designed than most I see on UA-cam. You’re one of the few channels to which I have subscribed. That being said, I would really like to comment on your voice and delivery. My gosh, you would make a good sportscaster or calling horse races or probably even an auctioneer. Very good and very fast delivery and clear and very understandable.
Thanks! Thanks for being a subscriber!
I’d really love to see some tests done comparing 1/2 drive to 1/4 hex adapters. To see which is really the best. There aren’t many videos out there comparing or even previewing them.
Thanks for the suggestion.
@@ProjectFarm Also, add in 3/8's drive in there. And do that with how much torque each driver put per turn, if possible.
Your testing methods are always superb, I look forward to seeing your videos every sunday, and I always check your channel to see what you found to be the best before I make a purchase
Thank you very much!
Just seems like most of the tool tests with Milwaukee they either win, or do very well overall. You've made be a believer of their products after several of your videos!
Thanks for the feedback.
In defense of cheap tools -- I have a little angle adapter like the Autohometool you tested. I've never used it with a power tool, but I've found it very hand for dealing with screws in awkward places, e.g., it was the only thing I had that could remove the screws from the rear deck speakers in one of my cars. A bigger tool wouldn't fit. I would expect it to self-destruct in short order if I were to use it with my CORDED Milwaukee impact drill! After seeing this video, however, I think I can drop $25 on a Milwaukee adapter that will ultimately prove more useful.
Great video as always!
Great video as always! Timely, too. I just bought a right-angle adapter for my Dremel 400 series rotary tool, and I am loving it, so I suspect an RAA for my drill will not be far behind.
Also, if you haven't done one on this tool already, I'd love to see a comparison of digital calipers!
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
I have the dewalt flex shaft and the 3 piece dewalt and they are life savers when your in a tight spot.
To be fair I think the flex shaft set ups should have their own test. They are expected to be used for more lightweight duties. It was cool to see that it could hold up to the torture of that hydraulic test. Awesome as always.
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
Great testing as always, they’re very educational and beneficial to consumers. I’ve watched all of your films.
How about doing a test with waterproof can or bottle sprays on just tents/ponchos natural fabric or light synthetic materials??? I’ve used them on my camping gears but very curious to know who’s best out there in the markets.
Thx
Thanks so much! Thanks or he suggestion.
"we're gonna test that"
Hell YEAH.!!
Thanks for watching!
Really good tests, one thing though, when removing the lug nuts, the nuts can become more difficult as other are removed, as the weight of the vehicle is being loaded on to the remaining nuts that are holding the wheel in place. But the final impact wrench test really showed who was boss! Great Vid.
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
Awesome test! I really loved the breakdown of the internals. Keep it up, plenty more like Makita, RyobI, and others to add to this test group. You really are my favorite channel. Keep up the amazing work! Every tradesperson I know watches your videos.
Thank you!
@@ProjectFarm - I am considering buying the "AUCO Durable Right Angle Drill Attachment Adapter, Impact Fit, Max Torque 500 in-lbs (56.5 Nm), All Tough Metal Body and Steel Gear" as available on Amazon. Looks to be similar to the Milwaukee 8510 for $20 less. Would be curious to see how it holds up!
The flex shaft dewalt might not be the strongest but that flexibility is just so convenient. I didn’t even know they had something like that, it’s honestly pretty amazing. Definitely going to get one. It doesn’t work for every application but for the ones it does work on, it just makes the job so much easier.
Thanks for the feedback.
They got a new model now aswell too it's like an all in one right angle/flex shaft
I bought the Milwaukee 49-22-8510 about 15 years ago for about $100. (Back then, it was sold under the AEG brand name.) At the time, I thought it was expensive, albeit of exceptional build quality. But since then, it has turned many impossible situations into easily doable ones, never letting me down. Excellent tool that I have never regretted buying.
Thanks for sharing.
Glad to see the Milscraft I chose on whim, because it was cheap, didn’t do too badly. Great video as always! When the Milscraft broke though, it looked like the shaft on the 1/4 hex to 1/2 drive adaptor broke instead of the Milscraft, or am I seeing that wrong?
Absolutely love your videos. Potential video idea for you: is it beneficial to run an engine off of propane rather than gasoline.
I recently converted a 2000 W generator to propane after hearing several testimonials of how much cleaner the propane burns resulting in longer engine life and longer time in between oil changes. I like the convenience of not having to worry about gas going bad or buying ethanol free but I have noticed a few negatives; harder to start the engine (even with a spark plug upgrade), not as much power, and not as much runtime if I were to use an equivalent amount of gasoline.
Would love to see your take!
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
Great video. What I'd really like to know based on my experience with a couple of these types of adapters that were not featured in this video is: How is the bit retention? The two I have used and ended up returning in short order had me chasing the driver bit on the floor every time I lifted it off the screw. Very irritating and time wasting.
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
Me too. But u can always stick a magnet on it overnight and magnetize it
I have owned my Dewalt for a while now. I thought I was going to burn it out once with drilling for an extended period of time, but it held up just fine. I was really impressed.
Thanks for sharing.
Please do best brake parts cleaner. You use some in several of your videos. Thanks again for the great content!
Great suggestion! Thank you
Excellent video as usual. I have a video test suggestion. Test the pop-up portable canopies available from many stores and on line.
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
"We're gonna test that!" Inferior manufacturers start convulsing in fear. lol
lol. I hope it motivates manufacturers to improve poor quality products
Hey do you get paid by UA-cam when they play their ridiculous ads for disney and or other BS ads? Just curious because I like your videos but the ads are getting super annoying.
Yes he does as long as you don’t slip them
Of course is the only way for him to get money from the free videos he is giving us
Just a little appreciation. Thanks for your hard work!
If you had to pick of the two Milwaukee's which you go with? I'm wondering if the price difference is justified of the $59 one.
For occasional use, I'd go with the less expensive option. The more expensive option is going to outlast.
Thanks so much for your support to the channel.
sorry, what was that Locking Plier @12:55?
The only minor complaint I could ever have for your channel is the speed of your delivery (talking). Perhaps you feel it's necessary or the video lengths will be too long? Of course, I suppose people like me can pause your video, and then try to think for a second - absorbing what you just said - then restarting, and so on, but it's not quite the same as receiving the info at a different, steady, but slightly slower rate. I sometimes miss facts due to the speed you present them. - And no, I don't have this trouble w/ any other UA-cam channel. Besides, your channel can be more than just a source of quick information - though it is a goldmine in that respect. Thanks for the great work!
You are welcome! Thanks for the constructive feedback.
I would say exactly the same! Sometimes I have to replay a certain phrase to understand it.
I have the Dewalt “60” and and have been using it for a while now at work, so far it hasn’t let me down.
Thanks for the feedback.