I remember a script leaking for a RAW that was in 2000, and it was literally just bullet points. The most it told the wrestlers to do was look a certain way after another wrestler left the room.😄
That has always been the magic of wrestling. Improvisation. It's not a coincidence that the vast majority of larger-than-life greatest wrestlers did their promos while drunk, high, coked up, depressed or clinically angry.
I remember a few months ago when Aliyah got caught looking down at her script during a backstage promo but I can't even blame her with all they have to memorize.
I really hope one of the new changes is getting rid of scripted promos. Let the wrestlers talk for themselves and if they can't then get a manager/mouth piece or do your talking in the ring.
@@charlest5604 Hopefully it will stop those horrid moments when a promo just stops as they forgot the next line and are told they cant ad lib so it just DIES
People shit all over how TNA was run back in the day, but I remember enjoying how they did backstage segments like 10 years ago. It would be like the cameraperson was just roaming the backstage area looking for footage and they just so happen to come across something happening. They would film from a distance so they're not directly in the faces of the wrestlers and still pick up whatever is going on. That always felt more real than any of WWE's backstage segments. Like Jim has said on previous occasions, it's hard to take it seriously when you have heels planning nefarious schemes with a camera right in their faces and they're supposed to just ignore it.
I actually hated how they did their backstage filming. I understood the concept of what they were trying to do with filming it that way, but it didn’t work for me
Yeah I loved it too. It was sort of the naissance of reality TV at the time more generally, so it felt contemporary and youthful. And I agree that it made slightly more narrative sense, too. My favourite segments TNA taped were the Eye Spy/PCS content with Alex Shelley, which was sort of a candid-camera gonzo-style reporter gimmiclk
Vince clearly heard that movie and TV actors are told to not look at the camera during a performance, unless they are deliberately breaking the fourth wall, so he thinks his wrestlers will give an air of authenticity if they also don't look into the camera. However, that only works when people are meant to be watchign a scripted performance. If you want something scripted to look not staged, have them react to the camera. It's not rocket science.
Ok, I see your stance. However for example if your being interviewed by TMZ or another media source wouldn't you look at the interviewer instead of the camera?
@@andersonthespidersilva7174 That might make the most sense. Like I think it makes sense to glance at the camera but not necessarily talk to the camera or engage in looking at it for long periods of time.
@@oneperson9704 yeah you get what I'm saying. I guess in a wrestling way it makes sense to look at the camera since to get over you have to connect to the people but maybe its just a difference in style.
Unrelated - Is anyone else bugged by how much Jon Moxley relies on using the middle finger? Of course he has to bleed but I'm watching AEW last night and every 15 seconds he's giving someone the bird and it always reminds me of a teenagers idea of a badass.
Mox is the biggest cartoon in wrestling. My favorite part about Mox is how he railed against WWE’s creative vision for him, then when left to his own devices basically delivers the same character, but turned up a couple of notches. Seriously, what’s the difference between Ambrose and Moxley?
I think Rocky the Ramone could write and sing a brilliant song to the Dastardly & Muttley Stop the Pigeon song about Vince telling Jerry McDivitt to stop the legal dispositions.
There are some people who I think need their promos scripted and some who can just go off the cuff and I don't think a universal model makes much sense. I would guess if they have a more inexperienced production crew for this event you'd get longer production side scripts
I interned at wwe in 2013. The amount of scripts that came through on Monday were baffling at times. Also people would come out of creative meetings crying. Good times!
I seriously miss the format from the 80s. some promo with mean gene then a match and a promo then a match then a promo and a match then see you next week.
@@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma yes I think you can blame Mike Blackwell for that , he broke the jobber code in a time where fans were getting smart to the business
I remember fairly recently, John Cena was on Cris Van Vleit's show and he said something like: They don't give you word for word promos. It's always bullet points. I wonder if John was saying this as to not reveal how the company did stuff or if some superstars don't need to actually get full scripts because WWE decided to trust them and let them cut their own promos. I could see John having a lot more freedom than most of the rest of the roster.
BING BING BING....people have said that a few people like Cena, Jericho, Taker get freedom....but everyone else got them...so he technically wasnt lying in his own case but he was disingenious
I'll bet (***) was an audio cue to make sure there was enough crowd reaction noise (genuine or canned). I haven't been to a show live since the '90s but even back then when I went home and watched the tape there would be parts where they made it sound like the crowd was way more into it than they really were, and that was when the crowd was _really_ into it most of the time. These days I'd bet they actually have to plan for it.
Yes. When they'd come visit my hometown, Vancouver, Canada, the crowd only popped for heels, booed babyfaces and used to start rowdy local chants (kinda like a British crowd). I remember asking a friend to tape the PPV and it wasn't at all like it was in the stadium. Canned reactions were dubbed in.
@@mikemck4796 Yes, it does. They need to know to hold for the reaction even if it isn't there, otherwise there's no pause to fit it in. If they keep talking the timing is off. Lets you know just how hard they're scripting if they can't even count on their own punch-lines and don't trust the talent to know better.
Can they do the shot in the back again where a wrestler is being interviewed and suddenly another wrestler is standing next to them and they're surprised? Can they please do that again. It's so good. We need to see it a million times. Do they not have any periphery vision????
Its one of those instances where the other person does not exist until he's in the frame lol 😂 so he could literally be next to them but since he's not in the camera shot he does not exist and shall not be acknowledged 😂
@@xylsky1300 the best ones are the shots where the wrestler is at a bar or something and he has to pretend that a camera isn't right up in his face and a lighting crew most likely and of course they still manage to get jumped.
Also like Jim said why don't they look at the camera? Do they not know they're on tv? You'll have other wrestlers scheming and talking about how they're gonna sabotage this one or that one. All the other wrestler has to do is have a monitor playing RAW so he can see what his archenemies are planning. It's fucking ridiculous. I've always hate the dumb floating camera and they need to get rid of it.
Looking directly into the lens of the camera is called spiking the camera. It does look unnatural. It can break the fourth wall. I have seen some shots where an actor intentionally stares dead center into the lens. It can seam kind of surreal sometimes. Basically it means that the WWE is filming it’s episodes more like a TV show and less like a sport.
the thing is, this isn't a "fictional" setting with a "fourth wall"; these are meant to be actual fighters, and the cameraman and crew and everyone actually *do* exist in the same plane of reality as the "characters" that are the wresters and everyone else
I remember Jesse Ventura talking about some tv show, where someone outside the WWF wrote their own script for the announcers (like an executive from the stadium), and he looked at it and said, "What the fuck is this shit?" Jesse tells the guy he'll hit the big points, but don't worry about the actual quotes, he's a professional.
Mach would have tossed it, chopped a line and just cut a promo about the first random object he came across. And handing a script to Warrior probably wouldn’t matter because I seriously doubt his ability to read.
At least the best line Becky said about not letting a man define her but that she was The Man or - whatever was the exact quote - wasn’t scripted. Sounds like she added the best part of her promo on her own.
Did anyone compare this to the actual episode? From what I remember of Becky's promo, it sounded like she dropped most of what Jim read and did her own thing, and I distinctly remember it sounding much more real than any promo she's done in the last year. I think Bianca's kept more of the script, but she's greener at promos and not as natural on the mic as Becky. I sure wish that Jim had watched this episode because the whole thing felt night-and-day better than Raw has been all year. I know he thinks you can't "turn the Titanic on a dime" but this show almost did. This past Monday was better too but not as good as last monday.
It was roughly the same. Like you said: Becky made it somewhat more of a natural thing. And RAW was a lot more exciting than usual. or maybe I'm just jumping on the Trips Hype Train too soon. But I did feel like stuff made a bit more sense
Stop being a mark. Becky said the promo word for word as it was written in the script. She's not that good of a talker so she needs to. 95% of the roster needs to because modern day wrestlers have no natural instincts for the business
Or have it as someone recorded it backstage with their cellphone. Either security camera or cellphone footage would make it seem more real. If you went the cellphone route you could have someone post it to social media or something.
The 3rd hour of Raw is what's killing the show it needs to be 2-hours because watching Raw for 3-hours is impossible and it comes out that Triple H wants the 3rd hour removed.
10:58 FYI Becky's actual promo on the show wasn't anything like this shitty script. She just did it on her own, so all that written shit was pointless.
Hopefully Vince being ousted will mean the end of the stupid scripts and writers and choregraphed matches we can go back to real wrestling, with real, heartfelt promos and matches called in the ring.
I think scripts could work (to a point at least) if they were written by people that actually liked and watched wrestling. There's hundreds of writers waiting tables in LA, find the ones that are gonna go home and watch old wrestling when they clock out and give them a shot, because I don't think most of these guys (and girls) got the talent to pull it off on their own (the wrestlers, I mean). Not forcing them to ramble on for 15-20 minutes would help too. A one person promo shouldn't last longer than most Tool songs.
Idk, Stephanie is still there and the scripts became a thing mainly because of her joining creative in the 2000s. Maybe HHH being head of creative might loosen things up.
Travis' artwork is from "Dastardly & Muttley in their Flying Machines" (1969-1970 Hanna Barbera) a spinoff of "Wacky Races" (1968 Hanna Barbera) that just had Dick Dastardly & Muttley (no other racers) chasing Yankee Doodle Pigeon. Sorry; cartoon aficionado, just helping everyone that's too lazy to use their smartphone to use Google.
I've seen some guys on the indies writing dialog for wrestlers. It was cringy, but I've never seen anything as bad as that Becky promo, and there was still more for Bianca! I have some amateur bookers to apologize to. The closest I've come to writing dialog for wrestlers or announcers is when they didn't understand what they were supposed to say and just spoke my instructions.
@@mage1439 My problem is with the watering down of things and a loose decision-making process. If he truly misses something then he wouldn't express himself so casually. What troubles me is that what passes for 'missing' something must be at a very low standard if he does that. And then it reinforces itself, as you see people trying to sound relaxed or laid-back online, but it's only a cowardly bluff to make intensity and a sense of purpose seem uncalled for and we just need to "chill". In short, I am against propaganda in the guise of image and impressions and attitude. It is so easy to manipulate one's image and attitude to serve an underlying 'message'. We can see this all the time. People going out of their way to be something, as though it cannot be denied and it becomes real, a fact of life. No. It is a mechanism of social control.
Oooo Brother I never thought it would get that bad, These poor wrestlers can’t think for themselves. You can’t tell me that this isn’t the reason why anyone hasn’t got over naturally and become a real star
I wouldn’t do no promos my memory is not good they would have to give me paragraph. Otherwise I would alibi everything or they would give me a teleprompter with the word on a screen
I would hazard a guess that the (***) is meant to represent where music might kick in, or a pyro might go off, or smoke might roll in. An effects cue of some kind.
Say what you will about AEW but at least they aren’t scripted and do bullet points. I’ll take a shit promo over an overly scripted one any day of the week
I really can't wait to hear Jim rip that Darby vs Brody match, I've enjoyed AEW but in no world should Darby be even close to beat Brody much less a hard-core coffin match that had him get jumped by 3 other badasses
And even though he'll be glad Punk is back, he has to tear TK to shreds for not building that up to a humongous moment like when Triple H came back from tearing his quad.
Aew ln was awful. The garbage match opener, shit pomo after shit promo, mox AND jericho together, and a rediculous return of their world champ. Only good thing was ftr getting with wardlow
Speaking of WWE trying to sell shirts, ever since Vince left I've gotten daily marketing emails from WWE Shop, which I don't have a problem with but I wonder why didn't they do this back when I was actually watching the shows and a couple times a year actually buying merch?
I wish they would give those great on the mic a few points to make but let them also do their own promos. I get if they're green or not the best on the mic to use a script, but others have skill they don't need them to make a impact.
I worked at the ATT center in San Antonio, and I found a script in one of the bathrooms. I proceeded to make $150 That night by telling my co-workers "I bet I know what's going to happen"
💯 I once gave a stack of WCW and WWF magazines to my cousins in Europe in the 90's because the shows used to be 6 months behind over there. He proceeded to keep it a secret and take bets with the kids at school (because it was still kayfabe mid 90's and we were kids lol) and I'd update him with results periodically. 😂
So if I remember correctly while this was close to what we saw on the wall it was also a lot of the promo from Becky left out. Like there was nothing about the man in this.
Remembering off the top of my head, I think Becky did go off script for the most part. She tended to talk more and emphasize their women’s division in a new era in that promo than solely Bianca
Yeah besides the very first sentence, Becky used her own words (Unless the script was updated), she just stuck to the overall tone. Sounds like the "script" was still just bullet points.
@@CockyBalboa only the 1st half where she talking about Becky is. But everything after her talking about Becky isn’t. out of this whole “script” that is the only part that matches up word for word. Becky promo completely different, street profits & Seth was too.
If you'd have told me back in the mid 90s while watching Hunter Hearst Helmsley getting his ass kicked by a garbage man, that this guy would one day be running the show. My 12 yr old self would be like "Yeah that sounds about right actually"
Just watched this promo back and Becky was using her own words. Bianca was a little closer to the script but it is good to see they don’t recite it word for word.
Now I want a Botchamania segment where they splice Corny's monologue with the tv show, and see it match up.
Fake
I remember a script leaking for a RAW that was in 2000, and it was literally just bullet points. The most it told the wrestlers to do was look a certain way after another wrestler left the room.😄
I have a copy. Used it to write sample shows. Simple to understand, not much gaga. Wish the show were still that easy to write.
@@1983jcheat post it or you are lying
@@1983jcheat There was plenty of gaga on Raw in the year 2000. Not as much as in WCW, but still...
@@ciamciaramcia99 😃 😀 😄. Probably true.
That has always been the magic of wrestling. Improvisation. It's not a coincidence that the vast majority of larger-than-life greatest wrestlers did their promos while drunk, high, coked up, depressed or clinically angry.
I remember a few months ago when Aliyah got caught looking down at her script during a backstage promo but I can't even blame her with all they have to memorize.
I really hope one of the new changes is getting rid of scripted promos. Let the wrestlers talk for themselves and if they can't then get a manager/mouth piece or do your talking in the ring.
@@charlest5604 HHH has said h wants the wrestlers to have more freedom at leats for anyone who can talk
@@jfdrac
I didn't see that, thanks for letting me know.
@@charlest5604 Hopefully it will stop those horrid moments when a promo just stops as they forgot the next line and are told they cant ad lib so it just DIES
@@jfdrac
Exactly, plus it just sounds phony.
People shit all over how TNA was run back in the day, but I remember enjoying how they did backstage segments like 10 years ago. It would be like the cameraperson was just roaming the backstage area looking for footage and they just so happen to come across something happening. They would film from a distance so they're not directly in the faces of the wrestlers and still pick up whatever is going on. That always felt more real than any of WWE's backstage segments. Like Jim has said on previous occasions, it's hard to take it seriously when you have heels planning nefarious schemes with a camera right in their faces and they're supposed to just ignore it.
Those vignettes were some of the few good things Easy E brought to that company.
"Cameraperson?" Grow a pair, kid.
@@chriswilliams2697 I know, right? All these dumb soyboys thinking that women exist and can have the same jobs as men! What a preposterous concept. 🙄
I actually hated how they did their backstage filming.
I understood the concept of what they were trying to do with filming it that way, but it didn’t work for me
Yeah I loved it too. It was sort of the naissance of reality TV at the time more generally, so it felt contemporary and youthful. And I agree that it made slightly more narrative sense, too. My favourite segments TNA taped were the Eye Spy/PCS content with Alex Shelley, which was sort of a candid-camera gonzo-style reporter gimmiclk
Vince clearly heard that movie and TV actors are told to not look at the camera during a performance, unless they are deliberately breaking the fourth wall, so he thinks his wrestlers will give an air of authenticity if they also don't look into the camera. However, that only works when people are meant to be watchign a scripted performance. If you want something scripted to look not staged, have them react to the camera. It's not rocket science.
Lita in her book said she got reprimanded for looking at the camera.
Ok, I see your stance. However for example if your being interviewed by TMZ or another media source wouldn't you look at the interviewer instead of the camera?
@@andersonthespidersilva7174 That might make the most sense. Like I think it makes sense to glance at the camera but not necessarily talk to the camera or engage in looking at it for long periods of time.
@@oneperson9704 yeah you get what I'm saying. I guess in a wrestling way it makes sense to look at the camera since to get over you have to connect to the people but maybe its just a difference in style.
@@andersonthespidersilva7174 are you the real Anderson Silva bro
Unrelated - Is anyone else bugged by how much Jon Moxley relies on using the middle finger? Of course he has to bleed but I'm watching AEW last night and every 15 seconds he's giving someone the bird and it always reminds me of a teenagers idea of a badass.
yes it removes the shock value
He's thinks he's the modern day Steve Austin
@@gazb2740 More like modern day Steve Lombardi
He’s “Lukewarm” Jon Marksley.
Mox is the biggest cartoon in wrestling. My favorite part about Mox is how he railed against WWE’s creative vision for him, then when left to his own devices basically delivers the same character, but turned up a couple of notches. Seriously, what’s the difference between Ambrose and Moxley?
Good news!
I just rewatched the promos mentioned in the video and the script wasn’t followed (with the exception of a couple lines).
Every time I think that Travis can't top himself, he proves me wrong. Dastardly & Muttley trying to stop the pigeon! Pure gold
I can hear the laugh of Mutley from this picture :D
Stop the pigeon! Stop the pigeon!
I think Rocky the Ramone could write and sing a brilliant song to the Dastardly & Muttley Stop the Pigeon song about Vince telling Jerry McDivitt to stop the legal dispositions.
There are some people who I think need their promos scripted and some who can just go off the cuff and I don't think a universal model makes much sense. I would guess if they have a more inexperienced production crew for this event you'd get longer production side scripts
I know a lot of them go
off the script or a-lib everything I listened very closely and I be saying to myself who is writing this 🐎 crap
ByW go and look at the list of the WWE personnel and see who is writing this ? You would be in shock and the producers of both Raw and Smackdown
If you need your promos scripted then you shouldn’t be working at the top level in wrestling.
I interned at wwe in 2013. The amount of scripts that came through on Monday were baffling at times. Also people would come out of creative meetings crying. Good times!
Seth freakin Rollins promo: ha ha ha!
Might be my favorite Cornette reading ever
I seriously miss the format from the 80s. some promo with mean gene then a match and a promo then a match then a promo and a match then see you next week.
Back when the term "jobber" was an actual profession rather than an overused insult.
@@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma yes I think you can blame Mike Blackwell for that , he broke the jobber code in a time where fans were getting smart to the business
The "Makes it look phony" ship has long sailed, Vince.
I remember fairly recently, John Cena was on Cris Van Vleit's show and he said something like: They don't give you word for word promos. It's always bullet points. I wonder if John was saying this as to not reveal how the company did stuff or if some superstars don't need to actually get full scripts because WWE decided to trust them and let them cut their own promos. I could see John having a lot more freedom than most of the rest of the roster.
BING BING BING....people have said that a few people like Cena, Jericho, Taker get freedom....but everyone else got them...so he technically wasnt lying in his own case but he was disingenious
Well to be fair, Becky didn’t say her promo word for word …
@@richeyd12 Nope and that might be due to HHH saying she does not need to anymore as he trusts her more than Vince
But John Cena sucks
@@jfdrac there was a script leaked a few years ago and even Jericho’s promo was entirely scripted during a highlight reel segment.
This makes me miss Jim reading historical news clippings. Time for a new series of those.
We'd need a third podcast to have any time for that. Way too full up reviewing bad modern wrestling and running ad spots.
Don't look into the camera but akwardly stand in a line while in the ring or watching a TV screen in the back.
Now we know why they talk about their devious plans in the back as if there is no camera there.
Watch TV at such at angle that you couldn't possibly see the screen on an HD monitor.
"Make sure you look at the tv screen obliquely."
You know wrestling is in a bad place when South Park's WTF episode was closer to professional wrestling than hearing these WWE scripts lol
That was a good episode. I’m convinced it was a biography on Kurt Angle /s
I'll bet (***) was an audio cue to make sure there was enough crowd reaction noise (genuine or canned). I haven't been to a show live since the '90s but even back then when I went home and watched the tape there would be parts where they made it sound like the crowd was way more into it than they really were, and that was when the crowd was _really_ into it most of the time. These days I'd bet they actually have to plan for it.
Yes. When they'd come visit my hometown, Vancouver, Canada, the crowd only popped for heels, booed babyfaces and used to start rowdy local chants (kinda like a British crowd). I remember asking a friend to tape the PPV and it wasn't at all like it was in the stadium. Canned reactions were dubbed in.
AEW scripts have (*****) instead
Except that doesn’t make much sense on a talent script.
@@mikemck4796 Yes, it does. They need to know to hold for the reaction even if it isn't there, otherwise there's no pause to fit it in. If they keep talking the timing is off. Lets you know just how hard they're scripting if they can't even count on their own punch-lines and don't trust the talent to know better.
Can they do the shot in the back again where a wrestler is being interviewed and suddenly another wrestler is standing next to them and they're surprised? Can they please do that again. It's so good. We need to see it a million times. Do they not have any periphery vision????
Maybe they're blinded by the TV lights, haha.
Its one of those instances where the other person does not exist until he's in the frame lol 😂 so he could literally be next to them but since he's not in the camera shot he does not exist and shall not be acknowledged 😂
@@xylsky1300 the best ones are the shots where the wrestler is at a bar or something and he has to pretend that a camera isn't right up in his face and a lighting crew most likely and of course they still manage to get jumped.
Also like Jim said why don't they look at the camera? Do they not know they're on tv? You'll have other wrestlers scheming and talking about how they're gonna sabotage this one or that one. All the other wrestler has to do is have a monitor playing RAW so he can see what his archenemies are planning. It's fucking ridiculous. I've always hate the dumb floating camera and they need to get rid of it.
You Also blame every villan in film history telling the camera their plans? :-D
Someone found a Raw script format in the 2010s, and the title of it was "Grin and Barrett".
This has Vince written all over it.
He said this is new under HHH...
@@silxix2599 I heard what he said bruh.
@@hennypowers8319 So what do you mean? That even if creative is under HHH's watch, that Vince McMahon is still the one pulling the strings?
@@silxix2599 I'm saying Vince isn't the type to ride off into the sunset.
@@hennypowers8319 Are you being cryptic. 😂
Either way, I agree! 🙂
Dominik NOT automatically being cool with "friendly" Edge is ok continuity! Whether Edge truely went face or its a swerve has me curious.
That entire story this past Monday had actual solid psychology. It's maybe the first time I've cared about Dominik and what he's gonna do.
@@jasonmcgregor6089 still don't care
"I had two birthdays during that show" - Jim Cornette
Poor Buff Bagwell, the guy has literally EVERYTHING but he look at the camera.
For the sake of the "informant" jim should have waited 2 weeks and not named the building
Looking directly into the lens of the camera is called spiking the camera. It does look unnatural. It can break the fourth wall. I have seen some shots where an actor intentionally stares dead center into the lens. It can seam kind of surreal sometimes.
Basically it means that the WWE is filming it’s episodes more like a TV show and less like a sport.
the thing is, this isn't a "fictional" setting with a "fourth wall"; these are meant to be actual fighters, and the cameraman and crew and everyone actually *do* exist in the same plane of reality as the "characters" that are the wresters and everyone else
There was an episode of 'Night Court' where Bull became a professional wrestler. Someone broke out a script of the match for comic affect.
I'm trying to imagine Macho Man Randy Savage or the Ultimate Warrior being handed a script and being told to read this and stick to it.
I remember Jesse Ventura talking about some tv show, where someone outside the WWF wrote their own script for the announcers (like an executive from the stadium), and he looked at it and said, "What the fuck is this shit?" Jesse tells the guy he'll hit the big points, but don't worry about the actual quotes, he's a professional.
Mach would have tossed it, chopped a line and just cut a promo about the first random object he came across. And handing a script to Warrior probably wouldn’t matter because I seriously doubt his ability to read.
8:40 This is for Montez Ford every promo he sounds like he's singing or harmonizing. Kinda like the Usos they say the same thing every time
At least the best line Becky said about not letting a man define her but that she was The Man or - whatever was the exact quote - wasn’t scripted. Sounds like she added the best part of her promo on her own.
Did anyone compare this to the actual episode? From what I remember of Becky's promo, it sounded like she dropped most of what Jim read and did her own thing, and I distinctly remember it sounding much more real than any promo she's done in the last year. I think Bianca's kept more of the script, but she's greener at promos and not as natural on the mic as Becky. I sure wish that Jim had watched this episode because the whole thing felt night-and-day better than Raw has been all year. I know he thinks you can't "turn the Titanic on a dime" but this show almost did. This past Monday was better too but not as good as last monday.
It was roughly the same. Like you said: Becky made it somewhat more of a natural thing. And RAW was a lot more exciting than usual. or maybe I'm just jumping on the Trips Hype Train too soon. But I did feel like stuff made a bit more sense
Becky has been golden in promos for like 5 years.
Stop being a mark. Becky said the promo word for word as it was written in the script. She's not that good of a talker so she needs to. 95% of the roster needs to because modern day wrestlers have no natural instincts for the business
It's always fun, playing a game of Spot The Mark
@@GuyoftheStars w....no she didn't
Drew McIntyre calling Roman the Tribal Queef, popped 13 year old me.
Well... now we know what Vince will be doing with his time now that he's out of the WWE. Maybe Laurinaitis will be his Mutley lol
Its ok to have a wrestler break the "fourth wall," but, if you're going to jump to a fight backstage, shoot it like a security camera captured it.
That's why I couldn't do this my whole gimmick was about being paranoid and knowing I was being watched
@@randommay9219 Understandable.
Or have it as someone recorded it backstage with their cellphone. Either security camera or cellphone footage would make it seem more real. If you went the cellphone route you could have someone post it to social media or something.
@@charlest5604 Not to mention it costs exactly $0 to film something with a phone.
@@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma
Good point. I didn't even think about that.
Whoever writes "fam" into the script should be beaten.
Could you imagine handing Harley Race, Piper, Dusty, or Flair a 10 page promo? Or Hogan? (That doesn’t work for me, brother). Or Scott Steiner?!?
Anyone else only able to hear or think of "doesn't work for me, brother" in Kevin Nash's voice?
16:05 "The new Montez Ford Promo, now with all-wheel drive, and heated leather seats!"
I would love it if a wrestler just said oh and buy my tshirt at the end of a promo. To me it adds realism, them trying to sell their merch
Of course they are titling their shows, even their ppvs have headers below the name
"The horror show at Extreme Rules"
I'd like to see a whole lineup of Wacky Races with different wrestlers from Travis, haha.
We already know who will be Penelope Pitstop
I'd love to see Kevin Dunn as Prof. Pat Pending, but the car has a giant satellite dish on it instead of the propeller
This was actually a parody on a dick dastardly spinoff cartoon. I just remember the theme with him singing "stop the pigeon!"
@@andybunn5780 What was it called? I'll queue it up with my child lol. We love old limited cartoons and I didn't know of that one.
get that pigeon😁
I swear Vince watched that South Park episode W.T.F. and said this is good shit. DO THIS
The 3rd hour of Raw is what's killing the show it needs to be 2-hours because watching Raw for 3-hours is impossible and it comes out that Triple H wants the 3rd hour removed.
He said he wanted to remove the 3rd hour years ago.
USA wants 3 hours. It's not changing.
@@goodday2760 which is very interesting
Agreed. Three hours is overkill.
@@TomAndrews91 and Last month was the 10-year anniversary of Raw moving to three hours which is a dumb idea and Raw is losing viewers ever since.
Damn, why not just have those giant cue cards they use on SNL, because most people can't remember dialogue.
7:09 in movie that would make sense if the camera is not meant to be there.but in wrestling hell no!
10:58 FYI Becky's actual promo on the show wasn't anything like this shitty script. She just did it on her own, so all that written shit was pointless.
Since these promos are written word for word for the wrestlers no wonder no one has individuality.
Hopefully Vince being ousted will mean the end of the stupid scripts and writers and choregraphed matches we can go back to real wrestling, with real, heartfelt promos and matches called in the ring.
I think scripts could work (to a point at least) if they were written by people that actually liked and watched wrestling. There's hundreds of writers waiting tables in LA, find the ones that are gonna go home and watch old wrestling when they clock out and give them a shot, because I don't think most of these guys (and girls) got the talent to pull it off on their own (the wrestlers, I mean).
Not forcing them to ramble on for 15-20 minutes would help too. A one person promo shouldn't last longer than most Tool songs.
Idk, Stephanie is still there and the scripts became a thing mainly because of her joining creative in the 2000s. Maybe HHH being head of creative might loosen things up.
@@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma scripts never work
Nobody knows how to call shit
@@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma Most stories out of the WWE that i have heard say they dont want writers to be fans.
WWE not letting guys look into the camera is a missed opportunity. Kurt Angle screaming at the camera in TNA is meme royalty.
Travis' artwork is from "Dastardly & Muttley in their Flying Machines" (1969-1970 Hanna Barbera) a spinoff of "Wacky Races" (1968 Hanna Barbera) that just had Dick Dastardly & Muttley (no other racers) chasing Yankee Doodle Pigeon.
Sorry; cartoon aficionado, just helping everyone that's too lazy to use their smartphone to use Google.
I really hope HHH brings back some wrestling into this chaos, because it got to the point of being ridiculous.
I've seen some guys on the indies writing dialog for wrestlers. It was cringy, but I've never seen anything as bad as that Becky promo, and there was still more for Bianca! I have some amateur bookers to apologize to. The closest I've come to writing dialog for wrestlers or announcers is when they didn't understand what they were supposed to say and just spoke my instructions.
Three asterisks mean pause for audience reaction
Remember when the wrestling business was “Go out and cut a two minute promo on Randy Savage. The match is in three weeks.”?
I miss that shit so much.
@@robintst And it's vulgarity like yours that made it go away.
@@goodday2760 Tell me, please, how you're listening to Jim Cornette and have a problem with someone saying the word shit.
@@mage1439 My problem is with the watering down of things and a loose decision-making process. If he truly misses something then he wouldn't express himself so casually. What troubles me is that what passes for 'missing' something must be at a very low standard if he does that. And then it reinforces itself, as you see people trying to sound relaxed or laid-back online, but it's only a cowardly bluff to make intensity and a sense of purpose seem uncalled for and we just need to "chill". In short, I am against propaganda in the guise of image and impressions and attitude. It is so easy to manipulate one's image and attitude to serve an underlying 'message'. We can see this all the time. People going out of their way to be something, as though it cannot be denied and it becomes real, a fact of life. No. It is a mechanism of social control.
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Becky went a bit off script on her promo so it means Triple H is giving leaway to go off scrip.
Oooo Brother I never thought it would get that bad, These poor wrestlers can’t think for themselves.
You can’t tell me that this isn’t the reason why anyone hasn’t got over naturally and become a real star
What is Brian Last slurping on at 3:25?
Hahaha
My takeaway from this is HHH is taking the writer and producers back to 1st grade, and teach them all over.
I wouldn’t do no promos my memory is not good they would have to give me paragraph. Otherwise I would alibi everything or they would give me a teleprompter with the word on a screen
I give credit to Travis Henckel for even KNOWING about Dick Dastardly and Muttley.
I would hazard a guess that the (***) is meant to represent where music might kick in, or a pyro might go off, or smoke might roll in. An effects cue of some kind.
Jim saying he doesn't want to get anyone fired makes it clear it's not Kevin Dunn, anyway. There is no way he wouldn't revel in getting him fired.
Sonny Kiss is going to be on national television this Friday.
I bet Corny spontaneously combusts when he becomes aware of this fact.
Get outta here, no way!
@@wilcee238 Yup
"Make it real!" About 30 years too late for that 🤣
"Identify talent if the audience doesn't know them."
But the real problem is when the company isn't able to identify talent when they see it.
I thought the WWE network had episode titles for RAW? Maybe I’m crazy.
Idk about the network but there's no episode titles on hulu.
This explains why WWE doesn't call them wrestlers anymore.
This is one of the best thumbnails by Travis :D It's this or the one with The Flinstones :D
Vince McMahon's instructions: make sure the segment is good!..... Got it.
It's a miracle it didn't end with "or else...".
That goddamn trash heap of a company.
Wacky Races strikes again! 😆 I love it.
Stop that pigeon not wacky Racers but close
The person who delivered the note to Cornette was Charlie from Ballsack, Mississippi..
Carrier pigeon? I think you mean stool pigeon, which is apprpriate since the show is certainly full of stool.
PASSENGER PIGEON!
I can hear the laugh of Mutley from this picture :D
Well at least this script didn’t came from ShitStain himself knowing his spelling knowledge.
Ah Dastardly the original "Pockets" 🤣
Seth’s current character and promos are like nails on a chalkboard.
Is that Dick Dastardly in the plane with Cornette? If so where is Mutley?
Maybe the asterisks are a "hold for applause/boos/general fan reaction" cue?
Say what you will about AEW but at least they aren’t scripted and do bullet points. I’ll take a shit promo over an overly scripted one any day of the week
I really can't wait to hear Jim rip that Darby vs Brody match, I've enjoyed AEW but in no world should Darby be even close to beat Brody much less a hard-core coffin match that had him get jumped by 3 other badasses
And even though he'll be glad Punk is back, he has to tear TK to shreds for not building that up to a humongous moment like when Triple H came back from tearing his quad.
Aew ln was awful. The garbage match opener, shit pomo after shit promo, mox AND jericho together, and a rediculous return of their world champ. Only good thing was ftr getting with wardlow
In addition, Darby has been booked like a bitch recently. Didn't he JUST lose to King?..
@@Everson33 hobbs smashing the tv was cool but even the dialogue with the factory jobbers was mehhh
darby is better than brody king in every way the match should've never been booked in the first place
Speaking of WWE trying to sell shirts, ever since Vince left I've gotten daily marketing emails from WWE Shop, which I don't have a problem with but I wonder why didn't they do this back when I was actually watching the shows and a couple times a year actually buying merch?
Another one? The last one was hilarious Here we go 😀😃😂
First SmackDown dropping scripts, now Raw screwing up?
Muttley Do Something!
It should be said every episode of Raw has had an internal name for many, many years.
Yes it actually did
I wish they would give those great on the mic a few points to make but let them also do their own promos. I get if they're green or not the best on the mic to use a script, but others have skill they don't need them to make a impact.
The asterisks meant to pause for crowd reaction.
How can you have a connection with the viewer if you're algorithmically micro managed like a computer. Its too far
I worked at the ATT center in San Antonio, and I found a script in one of the bathrooms. I proceeded to make $150 That night by telling my co-workers "I bet I know what's going to happen"
💯 I once gave a stack of WCW and WWF magazines to my cousins in Europe in the 90's because the shows used to be 6 months behind over there. He proceeded to keep it a secret and take bets with the kids at school (because it was still kayfabe mid 90's and we were kids lol) and I'd update him with results periodically. 😂
Jim reading Becky Lynch's promo sounded like a failed Rocky movie script.
So if I remember correctly while this was close to what we saw on the wall it was also a lot of the promo from Becky left out. Like there was nothing about the man in this.
Gavin says : catch that pigeon? This artwork is top notch, Dick Cornette and Brian clunk!!!
"Let's Ride"
stop the pigeon! haven't heard the reference to it yet but I love it
Remembering off the top of my head, I think Becky did go off script for the most part. She tended to talk more and emphasize their women’s division in a new era in that promo than solely Bianca
Yeah besides the very first sentence, Becky used her own words (Unless the script was updated), she just stuck to the overall tone. Sounds like the "script" was still just bullet points.
All the promos were like that. I just went and watch everyone of them. Barely anything on this script was actually said or used
@@SuperbNProsper Bianca’s was word for word what she said on the show.
@@CockyBalboa only the 1st half where she talking about Becky is. But everything after her talking about Becky isn’t. out of this whole “script” that is the only part that matches up word for word. Becky promo completely different, street profits & Seth was too.
If you'd have told me back in the mid 90s while watching Hunter Hearst Helmsley getting his ass kicked by a garbage man, that this guy would one day be running the show. My 12 yr old self would be like "Yeah that sounds about right actually"
love the Artwork by Travis Heckel what a show catch a pigeon
cmon Jim, at least watch the show before or after crticizing the script. this is like "reviewing" the MITB ppv without watching it
Is the (***) possibly for them to pause for the crowd's reaction?
I've got a sickening feeling that the (***) at the end of the line means "pause for applause from the audience".
Just watched this promo back and Becky was using her own words. Bianca was a little closer to the script but it is good to see they don’t recite it word for word.