*Fun Fact:* In Legends Luke continued to use his X-Wing until the end of the War against the Empire in 19 ABY. Curiously, thanks to said ship Mara Jade was able to locate and capture Luke, so said ship is responsible for the first meeting between both Jedis and thus the continuity of the Skywalker lineage.
There’s no way Luke flew the same ship the whole time since the X-wing left behind on Cloud City was certainly lost to him. But I guess if Luuke can be cloned from Luke’s severed hand and the Youngling Killer was retrieved in both the EU and Disney Canon them SOMEHOW his X-wing can be saved from the Imperial garrison on Bespin. I guess.
@@russellharrell2747 well my guess would be that the rebels/new republic got it back when they liberated Bespin as one of their first military engagements after the battle of Endor
I actually wish he had not made this video. The Last Jedi movie angered me so much, I refused to watch anymore of Disney Star Wars. Of course, I learned a few things by accident, having many nerd friends and nerd social media channels I am subbed to, like this one. I already knew that Rey stole the Skywalker name, and ended up with the Falcon. It was only just now that I found out she got Luke's X-Wing too. Eff Kathleen Kennedy.
9:35 Looking back on the trench run, I can't help wonder if, or when, Darth Vader learned that the astromech he shot up in that trench run was his little buddy, R2-D2. How would he have felt about that?
@@kardona_3 It's also possible he didn't notice. Vader met C3PO when going to talk to some rock people. Because C3PO had a different leg he didn't notice that was the droid he built as a slave boy. And that was a relatively calm situation vs a space fighter battle.
C3P0 Also wasn't a friend, he was a refurbishment hobby project, so it isn't hard to see why he didn't notice one of the hundreds of protocol droids was one he had rebuilt as a kid. And after Anakin became Vader, he had grown to hate droids, he barely tolerated his medical droids and frequently destroyed them in his pain or rage. I doubt Vader would care much about R2D2 one way or the other.
The whole thing about the X-Wing being a compeditor for the Imperial starfighter contract WAS noted in the West End Games fuirst edition Star Wars The Role Playing Game (D6), long before even the Prequels were made. Disney probably took this idea and put it up front.
It's been so many years now, but wasn't it also a mission in one of the X-Wing series? I swear I recall being sent to steal the prototype X-Wings from a shipyard to use in the battle of Yavin.
In the novel, one of the Senior pilots/officers knew of Anakin and along with Biggs backing Luke up, the old guy said" if you fly half as good as your dad you'll be more than fine out there, or something like that. Haven't read it in years though.
Aircraft can be like this. They work their way into your life and are always there. I can still remember insane details about every aircraft I was assigned too. Still think of them often and have been able to see a couple since. They're like another person you served with and you learn to trust them just as much as the people you're with.
My cars are like that. I’ve rebuilt several over the years. The 1969 fast back I bought is the one that wormed its way into my heart. White with black stripes it was done as a boss 351 clone with a 351 Cleveland that I built specifically for it ( slight overbore pistons, good headers, nice crager ss wheels on white letter BFGs, and a 4 speed with a hurst shifter yeah it wasn’t cheap but it was a 5 year long labor of love ) I’ve had significantly high offers but I’m not selling. Looking forward to summer cruising of work Fridays and days off enjoying it. I know how pilots feel
BTW Many US Air Force fighters follow that Incom model. If you can fly a T-38, you can fly an F-15 or an F117 Stealth. They all even have the same landing gear. Of course, with fighters like the F-22 and the F-35 entering, and the F-15 and F-117's programs ended and being decommissioned, you no longer have this much uniformity.
Uniformity is bad for business. It's much better for the military to have to buy a bunch of unique, boutique parts for each piece of equipment. Even better if you make them so technically complex that you can artificially limit supply.
Not so much the "Incom model" as it is the "standard model". While almost all aircraft are different to a degree, after WW2 most aircraft started using the same layouts and controls. Kinda like how a Ford Model T was controlled vs how modern cars are controlled (Thankfully. Never drive a Model T if you don't have to) Look at the cockpits of the different fighters from WW2 vs the same nations fighters in the early 60's. So far, off the top of my head I've been in over a dozen different MDS of fighter, from American, to European to a couple Russian. Once you learn one, you can easily figure out the rest. ALso, the Air Force is currently planning on retiring the F-22 and will likely replace it with a new version of the F-15. Depending on the NGAD program.
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The Millennium Falcon isn't the only ship that's been fitted with copious amounts of Plot Armour. To be fair, after it's dunking in the Dagoba swamp, Luke probably had the ships refitted to make sure it could survive such water with some prep, so any repairs Rey needed to make would've been from the thing sitting for so long. Basically giving it a service, new battery, probably checking it with an OBD2 scan tool...
Yes, but like has been stated in many videos, the falcon was not a child of mere plot armor..the thing had LEGITIMATE tech and upgrades on its side practically the whole time!!!😉
Off Topic. Mention of Luthen’s antique shop makes me think that, “Y’know who would love this store? Grand Admiral Thrawn. That’s who.” The Narrative lines up for Andor S2, I do believe. I don’t know about y’all, but I would be delighted at a Skaarsgard/Mickelson interaction. Dope.
Thats what Mary Sues do. They come into your fiction and take everything over. She is like the Monopoly man. She is now savoir of the galaxy, killer of Palpatine, New leader of the Jedi order, owner of Anikin's Light saber, Lukes X-Wing, Han's Falcon, Best surrogate daughter of Leia and Han, Coached Luke, and replaced the entire og trilogy.
Yeah, I stopped watching after Last Jedi, wish I hadn't watched this video, I only just now found out she got Luke's Xwing. I so hate Kathleen Kennedy. Southpark didn't roast her enough.
As someone who grew up playing the old X-Wing / Tie Fighter PC games. I can assuredly tell you that the A-Wing was not a clone wars era craft. It was developed after the X-Wing early in the rebellion. On a side note the B-Wing was developed by Admiral Ackbar during the mid / late rebellion. The Y-Wing was a true clone wars era craft.
@@Leifthrasir Not really anything funny about its absence in those events, canon explanation is that the Massassi group didn't have any A-Wing at that time.
9:20 The stabilizer in legend also makes sense because you cut power to one engine and increase power to the other, then that will change the trajectory of the craft
Awesome video GenTech, please do more ship histories if possible. Question, shouldn't the Falcon belong to Chewie? He's been co-pilot for so long, I think he's earned the pilot seat.
Aa-5 is the r2d2 of ships next to the falcon. It’s seen almost every major battle for the rebels and helped progress other characters stories in brief appearances, sometimes even with R2 being on board
WW2 pilots LOVED flying the early marks of Spitfires. Most pilots who flew later marks said they were less fun and more tricky to fly. Newer isn’t always better.
Let's be honest. If "Rise of Skywalker" made 0,0000001% sense, Luke's X-Wing scene would have been this: Rey: "Will you let me have your ship, Luke?" 😃 Luke's spirit: "Honey, that thing has been submerged at the bottom of the sea for years. It must be as rusty as it is starved of fuel. By the way, I'm a ghost, so all the support I can give yoy is purely motivational." Rey: "So this is what having a flaw with consequences feels like..." 😢
Well Rey is established to be quite mechanically competent, and she would have the help of both R2-D2 AND BB-8, both quite brilliant repair droids, AND she is friends with Chewbacca...so if anyone can fix a starfighter that was buried at the bottom of a swamp for decades it would be her. Also worth noting that what better spacecraft to do that with than one that has been in that situation before and survived.
@@johnrickard8512 1. Rey was completely alone at the moment. She was literaly trapped here, with no one besides Luke being able to help her. 2. Realistically speaking, the X-Wing would be so deteriorated at this point, it would need a TON of new pieces to work again. Repair droids/wookies aren't enough
@@johnrickard8512 I don't know, ships are probably the part of Star Wars that is most realistically treated. Only the hyper-space stuff looks fsntastical to me
@@johnrickard8512 it operates on the physics that are established within the story. don't simp for Disney. Cold has issues as stated in Empire Strikes Back when they said the speeders were still being adapted to the cold.
Why do people keep referring to it as "Red-5?" Call signs are assigned to pilots, not planes or ships. This is why Luke was originally given that call sign, because the previous pilot with the call sign was killed in the Battle of Scarif, and I mean that ship was totally destroyed, so it's not like Luke was given that ship. Luke did not keep that call sign however, he was "Rogue Leader" in The Empire Strikes Back, and even if you assume that Rogue Squadron only referred to the snowspeeder squadron, Luke would've been "Red Leader" in his X-Wing (Wedge Antilles is Rogue 2 in Empire and Red Leader in ROTJ, so he clearly succeeded Luke as the head of that squadron once Luke joined the ground mission at Endor. The legends material I believe gives readers the idea that Rogue Squadron, which is referred to many other times, did include X-Wings and was only called "Red Squadron" at the Battle of Endor in honor of the original Red Squadron from the Battle of Yavin. Either way, Luke clearly did NOT keep using Red-5 as a call sign, so it makes no sense to refer to his ship by that designation.)
Ah, a man of good taste. My first car was a 64 1/2 coupe with a 289. My current daily driver is a 2006. But my baby is my '69 Mach I. I do love me some Mustangs! Great video on the T-65 X-Wing! She remains my absolute favorite tactical sci-fi ship. Nothing like her!
I owned a 1966 Mustang with a rare K-code 289 Hi-Po motor and I loved that car but I preferred my 1966 Ford F-100 truck with a 390 engine and 4 barrel Holly carb. That damn truck was fast. I plan on a 69 Mustang for my next one.
Yep, the classics. My first car was a ‘70 Mustang fastback, 302 that had been oversized .030 and taken to essentially Boss 302 specs. Always wanted a Boss 429, 1969 preferred but 1970 would be ok as well. Costs more than an X-Wing does now.
Cool beans bro. I just restored a 302 boss. With upgrades.. I'm trying to find a 351 Boss that needs attention. Don't care about making it original. Just period correct, more or less..
Rey really was a total criminal. She not only stole his lightsaber , but she also swiped his jedi books , his starfighter , his last name and his house on Tattouine . Not to mention she stole the Millennium Falcon . She stole everything that wasn't nailed down .
4:33 I’m not sure what the canon explanation would be, but a mobile factory would make much more sense. It seems to me that the modularity of the GR-75 would make it an ideal small-scale factory ship.
Probably a very decentralized series of mobile factories building different small parts that all go to one final assembly. The Germans tried it towards the end of WW2 with their aircraft and missiles. But it only works if you can get the components to that final assembly without .50cal holes. The modern equivalent would probably be the 787 from Boeing. Almost none of the aircraft is actually built in Everett or Charleston. They are built ALL over the world and all the parts come together at one place for final assembly. For extra interesting, several parts are made by Airbus, I believe in Italy. Have a few small factories making a few different parts each, and bring them all together on a ship or base. That also spreads out your supply chain for spare parts so one factory being destroyed doesn't mean you have no more engines or seat cushions.
My head Cannon is that the T-65A were built at the Incom factory and the T-65B was a simplified version produced at secret Rebel Facilities. The T-65C was a late war improved version. Original T-65 prototype. T-65A for initial production run that had more "polished" look. T-65B which was simplified and more rugged for Rebel use- included a Hyperdrive that was same model as Standard on Y-Wings to improve compatibility. (lots of Y-wing hyperdrives avaible for use) T-65C improved fire control and systems as well as improved shields. Standard T-65Bs could be upgraded to this model. Terms like "X-wing" "Y-Wing" and "A-Wing" are not technical designations but monikers (like an F-15E being known as a "Strike Eagle") Originally the Term "Wing" was a marketing term used by Koensayer for marketing the Y-Wing (the idea being that space frame was highly adaptable for multiple uses such as fighter, recon, bomber, attack, patrol etc.) Y-Wing was a modular ship that could be rebuilt with different parts for different mission types but using the same basic drive core and hyperdrive and frame. This was why the Rebels LOVED the Y-wing despite it being old. X-Wing was a term invented by Incom to follow the concept coined by Koensayer during the Clone Wars although the X-wing was not nearly as modular as the Y-Wing (Rebels for this reason did not modify X-wings as much as Y-wings mainly usesing their T-65s as space superiority and limited bombing work) Also X-wings were always built as single seaters while Y-wings would have a Varity of crew configurations. The A-wing was originally not ever called "A-wing" but "R-22 Spearhead" but rebels took their R-22 and heavily modified them into RZ-1 "A-wing" interceptors. the R-22 was a significantly less capable ship than the RZ-1 since it had a new more powerful drive core and updated avionics and fire control. Drive core is the "heart" of any Starwars ship with the basic equation being Drive core power-size-ships Mass= ship speed, maneuverability, hyperdrive speed. B-Wing followed suit after it was developed as an anti-Ship specialized fighter and the Rebels continued their tradition of giving ships a "Wing" name.
When I was a kid, watching A New Hope for the very first time, I knew that I was never going to become a Jedi. (I look terrible in a brown robe) But while every kid was "training" with their lightsabers and trying to "mind trick" the teacher into less homework, *I* was dreaming about being an X-wing pilot. The Boss 302 of the galaxy.😉 Thanks for the breakdown, Alan. Red-5 deserves major props.
Considering this is the Star Wars universe I'm actually not too surprised that Luke's X-Wing only needed a bit of repair after all that time underwater. This is a universe where long forgotten facilities still have functioning security systems and droids after thousands and thousands of years of neglect and disuse. Still think the Disney trilogy is hot shit though and not sure I'll ever forgive them for what they did to Luke's character
Good point, but the Spitfire was more like an interceptor especially in the early years of war, while the X- Wing is a multi role fighter. (I think the P-51 is more comparable to this role)
Generations Tech from a fan of Star Wars to a Star Wars UA-camr, a question in Star Wars Canon the origin of the force is where the wellspring of life Mortis or the force exist everywhere. In all of Star Wars please, my friend, explain to me anybody.
@@GenerationTech yeah but ice read and Star Wars Canon that the forest exist everywhere in all of Star Wars not just in one place is that true or not some say it is like Kenobi explained on episode four remember
@@GenerationTech like this, the force has a will of its own it works in mysterious ways it gave life to shimi Skywalker’s womb created by the midichlorians themselves and what we know and called Anakin Skywalker was born so yes, in Star Wars Canon, the force itself is the real and true creator, father of Anakin Skywalker fact
Hey Alan, talking about Mustangs... I've seen a review, yesterday, of a rc Mustang... It's called ZLL SG216 and it just rips balls! 😂 I'm going to get one as soon as I can! 😂
I imagine the info stated about who the first rebel pilot to be killed at the Battle of Yavin comes from some new(er) Disney cannon source, but in the actual film of "A New Hope" the first rebel pilot shown on screen to be killed is "Porkins." i.e., remember this?: "I've got a little problem here." "Eject!" "I can hold it! ........GWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
How fast was the hyperdrive aboard the X-wings? How quickly could they get from point A to point B ? Do those hyperlight-enabled starfighters have a full life- support system, with full connections available to the pilots when needed, if a flight needs to last more than 12 hours, being cooped up in those tiny pilot seats only?
@9:30 Unstable flow of fuel/energy to an engine would generate an unsteady amount of thrust from an engine. Given that spacecraft use their engines to steer rather than control surface, due to a lack of atmosphere, This would result in the same problems and damaged control surface would for an aircraft. Basically, Different terminology, same problem except the explanation works in a vacuum.
I always wondered what happened to his ship after he left it at Cloud City. Also, Luke constructs his new lightsaber on Tatooieen. Not just the deleted scene on Return of the Jedi, but the part when Vader is talking to him on the landing platform on Endor. "I see you have constructed a new lightsaber, now your training is complete." Palpatine says something similar in the throne room. "Ah much like your father's" Obi Wan left him some parts, some knowledge and a journal to find a Kyber Crystal. That's what Luke was missing. Normally it takes a Jedi about a month to put the parts together with the force alone, and do all the fine tuning so it doesn't blow up. They are very tempermental. Just ask Tenel Ka. Her first attempt cost her an arm. Obi Wan left instructions from the clone wars, and previous jedi wars with the sith and manalorians and stuff that taught them how to 'mass produce' a light saber in a few nights of meditation and, Luke also happens to be a fucking master mechanic, just like Anakin. So you see him putting one together with his hands, not his force powers is a big deal. That cut scene had a bit more too it. Read the book I, Jedi. Talks a lot about how a jedi passes their test of making a lightsaber and the faster method.
A super cool and printed spaceship for 20! (I wish, there were functional A-Wing for 20; TIE, Z-, and E-Wing for 30; B-,Y-, and X-Wing for 40. Okay, plus 10% SW-Tax)
Fun Fact: Red 5 was his call sign, not the number of the fighter he was in. It was called Red Squadron and they had numbers within that as their call sign so they could know who was talking, just like military pilots in the real world do, and no, his call sign is not the same as his nickname, such as "Iceman".
That may have been previously in Legends, but Disney changed it with the "Princess Leia" comic book series which is where the info that Generation Tech describes comes from. (I have the series myself.)
I never understood why Disney thought they needed to change certain EU things, like Incom defecting to the Rebellion. What was wrong with the original way they did it?
I remember reading in a comic how the Xwings R&D team defected and how a previous Red Squadron group had to escort them all to safety and how another Red 5 got blown to stardust during the escape... but i dont remember which where i read or which comic/issue it was to show my friends... anyone else know or remmeber the comic for it?
In the novel "Death Star" Over 120 X-Wings attacked the Death Star to try to damage it (this was before they found out the weak spot). All were lost plus their carrier. Then Disney took over and changed anything.
didn't another Red Squadron X-Wing survive Yavin 4? Because in the movie I saw three X-Wings (Luke's Wedge's and the one I'm Talking) about along with Ivon Verlaine's Y-Wing and the Falcon fly away from the death star who was piloting that unknown X-Wing?
Summarised. Built. Guy died in rogue one. Somehow luke gets same x wing. It destroys death star. Then acts as a taxi until Rey Sue owns it like every other fan service object.
Luke put his X-Wing underwater as to hide it from being on land to be spotted more easily. When Rey finds Luke, Luke was suffering from Despair (Despair - The voluntary and complete abandonment of all hope of saving one's soul and of having the means required for that end, Catholic Encyclopedia 1917) of having losing hope with his own self.
I'm not a huge fan. But it makes me sad to think of Rey inheritung both Red 5 AND the Falcon while doing nothing except swinging a lightsaber at a rock for 5 minutes as training. In fact it doesn't make me sad, it makes me sick.
Small single seat ships like the Luke Skywalker's T-65B were capable of interstellar travel and the layouts of their cockpits did not have access to a larger cabin. So what is a star pilot to do when it comes to long periods in one position? Are those "capsules" the ripest places? When USAF pilots ferry their fighters and strike aircrafts across oceans, the trip will take hours. When pilots in Star Wars transit, the trip could take days if not longer. So how does that work when their is no support logistics at weypoints? It's not like there is a random AM/PM floating an asteroid field. Is this where we as the audience suspend our beliefs?
Few points, .. a.) hyper drive makes travel between planets only one to three days depending on space sector region. b.) Early high-altitude bomber crews during the Cold War wore " depends/ urine tube " so sanitation gear is part of the flight suit. c.) Artificial gravity and stretch leg room of the cock pit. d.) Xwing novels, for Long flights, the pilot takes a long nap by slightly depressurize their cabin space and the Astrotech flight computer runs the spacecraft till destination time. Overall the Xwing is between 10ft to 20 ft longer than modern van motor homes. Overall the Xwings normally only spend a few 10's of minutes in hyperspace flight to make attack runs and the falcon could carry eight Xwings. Also you don't fly randomly in space when you should stick to know hyperspace lanes. Cloud City with a functional hyperdrive from Hoth in the Star Wars Atlas is only two days away with a class 1 military hyperdrive. Barely four days from Yoda swamp. Han had to run the Falcon's back up which made the trip take around a 30day month.
@GenerationTech Minor quibble really but "Red 5" doesn't refer to the ship itself. at 4 minutes you actually show a "Red 5" being shot down over scarif. "Red 5" refers to a member of Red Squadron not their fighter.
My dude, Porkins goes down first. Pour one out for my boy Jek. And pour another one out for Keyan Farlander, from whom Evaan Verlaine subsumed the distinction of 'only Y-wing to survive Yavin'.
Seeing the Imperial Gov't (propaganda) Advert for the TIE Fighter early in this vid and thinking of many others I've seen over multiple vids, I was wondering Allen if you might consider dedicating a video, to the multiple propaganda promotional displays that SW has provided us? Some are quite cool and hearing any historical facts associated with them (in-story and behind the scenes), I think would be quite interesting. :) Of course, thanks again for a great vid Buddy!
*Fun Fact:* In Legends Luke continued to use his X-Wing until the end of the War against the Empire in 19 ABY. Curiously, thanks to said ship Mara Jade was able to locate and capture Luke, so said ship is responsible for the first meeting between both Jedis and thus the continuity of the Skywalker lineage.
😂 there's some real Redfield energy in this post.
When Disney collapses what was canon will be legends, and what was legends will be canon once again.
Disneys trash will never be 'legends' we call it that because of its quality not becomes it got shelved
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There’s no way Luke flew the same ship the whole time since the X-wing left behind on Cloud City was certainly lost to him. But I guess if Luuke can be cloned from Luke’s severed hand and the Youngling Killer was retrieved in both the EU and Disney Canon them SOMEHOW his X-wing can be saved from the Imperial garrison on Bespin. I guess.
@@russellharrell2747 well my guess would be that the rebels/new republic got it back when they liberated Bespin as one of their first military engagements after the battle of Endor
Let's all appreciate how Allen is churning out all these new starwars videos without having a new starwars show playing, Thank you sir.
I actually wish he had not made this video. The Last Jedi movie angered me so much, I refused to watch anymore of Disney Star Wars. Of course, I learned a few things by accident, having many nerd friends and nerd social media channels I am subbed to, like this one. I already knew that Rey stole the Skywalker name, and ended up with the Falcon. It was only just now that I found out she got Luke's X-Wing too.
Eff Kathleen Kennedy.
@@johns9652 stop with these fanfictions
@@johns9652 so glad I'm not as miserable as you
9:35 Looking back on the trench run, I can't help wonder if, or when, Darth Vader learned that the astromech he shot up in that trench run was his little buddy, R2-D2. How would he have felt about that?
I don’t think he would have cared. He had killed Obi-Wan and attempted to kill Ahsoka.
@@kardona_3 It's also possible he didn't notice. Vader met C3PO when going to talk to some rock people. Because C3PO had a different leg he didn't notice that was the droid he built as a slave boy. And that was a relatively calm situation vs a space fighter battle.
Anger. That's the only emotion he feels a that point.
@@Kumimono The only emotion he feels... but the rest just feel cold...
C3P0 Also wasn't a friend, he was a refurbishment hobby project, so it isn't hard to see why he didn't notice one of the hundreds of protocol droids was one he had rebuilt as a kid.
And after Anakin became Vader, he had grown to hate droids, he barely tolerated his medical droids and frequently destroyed them in his pain or rage. I doubt Vader would care much about R2D2 one way or the other.
The whole thing about the X-Wing being a compeditor for the Imperial starfighter contract WAS noted in the West End Games fuirst edition Star Wars The Role Playing Game (D6), long before even the Prequels were made. Disney probably took this idea and put it up front.
It's been so many years now, but wasn't it also a mission in one of the X-Wing series? I swear I recall being sent to steal the prototype X-Wings from a shipyard to use in the battle of Yavin.
@@deadline8416I think that was Star Wars: Empire At War. You had to sneak in a group of fighter pilots into a shipyard.
In the novel, one of the Senior pilots/officers knew of Anakin and along with Biggs backing Luke up, the old guy said" if you fly half as good as your dad you'll be more than fine out there, or something like that. Haven't read it in years though.
It was actually a deleted scene in the movie too.
Aircraft can be like this. They work their way into your life and are always there. I can still remember insane details about every aircraft I was assigned too. Still think of them often and have been able to see a couple since. They're like another person you served with and you learn to trust them just as much as the people you're with.
My cars are like that. I’ve rebuilt several over the years. The 1969 fast back I bought is the one that wormed its way into my heart. White with black stripes it was done as a boss 351 clone with a 351 Cleveland that I built specifically for it ( slight overbore pistons, good headers, nice crager ss wheels on white letter BFGs, and a 4 speed with a hurst shifter yeah it wasn’t cheap but it was a 5 year long labor of love ) I’ve had significantly high offers but I’m not selling. Looking forward to summer cruising of work Fridays and days off enjoying it. I know how pilots feel
F15C, 78-480 will always be my girl.
BTW Many US Air Force fighters follow that Incom model. If you can fly a T-38, you can fly an F-15 or an F117 Stealth. They all even have the same landing gear. Of course, with fighters like the F-22 and the F-35 entering, and the F-15 and F-117's programs ended and being decommissioned, you no longer have this much uniformity.
Uniformity is bad for business. It's much better for the military to have to buy a bunch of unique, boutique parts for each piece of equipment. Even better if you make them so technically complex that you can artificially limit supply.
Not so much the "Incom model" as it is the "standard model". While almost all aircraft are different to a degree, after WW2 most aircraft started using the same layouts and controls. Kinda like how a Ford Model T was controlled vs how modern cars are controlled (Thankfully. Never drive a Model T if you don't have to) Look at the cockpits of the different fighters from WW2 vs the same nations fighters in the early 60's.
So far, off the top of my head I've been in over a dozen different MDS of fighter, from American, to European to a couple Russian. Once you learn one, you can easily figure out the rest.
ALso, the Air Force is currently planning on retiring the F-22 and will likely replace it with a new version of the F-15. Depending on the NGAD program.
@@Plaprad It's been a long time with ME too.
The F15 is being replaced by the F15EX for extended range use. Horsepower and gun powder is the American way
@@Ratkill9000the f15 will continue to live on to be the best fighter jet of all time
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On top of posting some of the best Starwars lore content, absolutely my favorite content creator.
A gentleman of refined taste.
Well met, sir.
The Millennium Falcon isn't the only ship that's been fitted with copious amounts of Plot Armour.
To be fair, after it's dunking in the Dagoba swamp, Luke probably had the ships refitted to make sure it could survive such water with some prep, so any repairs Rey needed to make would've been from the thing sitting for so long. Basically giving it a service, new battery, probably checking it with an OBD2 scan tool...
Yes, but like has been stated in many videos, the falcon was not a child of mere plot armor..the thing had LEGITIMATE tech and upgrades on its side practically the whole time!!!😉
Off Topic. Mention of Luthen’s antique shop makes me think that, “Y’know who would love this store? Grand Admiral Thrawn. That’s who.” The Narrative lines up for Andor S2, I do believe. I don’t know about y’all, but I would be delighted at a Skaarsgard/Mickelson interaction.
Dope.
They would talk like nords. Sophisticated nords…
@@cryptosporidium1375 a conversation that Thrawn would've enjoyed.
Man that line about rey inheriting both the falcon and the X wing just makes it seem like she inherited basically everything from the OT.
My head-canon says it's Chewie's Falcon now.
Thats what Mary Sues do. They come into your fiction and take everything over. She is like the Monopoly man. She is now savoir of the galaxy, killer of Palpatine, New leader of the Jedi order, owner of Anikin's Light saber, Lukes X-Wing, Han's Falcon, Best surrogate daughter of Leia and Han, Coached Luke, and replaced the entire og trilogy.
Yeah, I stopped watching after Last Jedi, wish I hadn't watched this video, I only just now found out she got Luke's Xwing. I so hate Kathleen Kennedy. Southpark didn't roast her enough.
As someone who grew up playing the old X-Wing / Tie Fighter PC games. I can assuredly tell you that the A-Wing was not a clone wars era craft. It was developed after the X-Wing early in the rebellion. On a side note the B-Wing was developed by Admiral Ackbar during the mid / late rebellion. The Y-Wing was a true clone wars era craft.
There’s actually a hidden comma there being “…clone wars era fighters, a wings…”
Also tbf the real clone wars a wing is the Delta 7 lol
Yep, it USED to be that way in Legends, that the A-Wing came after the X-Wing. But in the Disney canon it's very much no longer the case
@@RayShadow278 Funny that they seem to be missing in action in Rogue One and A New Hope...
Yet they show up in rebels, before both of the movies in the timeline
@@Leifthrasir Not really anything funny about its absence in those events, canon explanation is that the Massassi group didn't have any A-Wing at that time.
A Starfighter that is as iconic and famous as even the Millennium Falcon
9:20 The stabilizer in legend also makes sense because you cut power to one engine and increase power to the other, then that will change the trajectory of the craft
I've heard the T-65 MAX flies just like an ARC-170. Super smoooooth....
That 737 max drop was gold
I knew there was something more about way I watch your videos, late 60’s and early 70’s Mustangs are the best look cars out there.
Love you Allen ❤
Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
Merry Christmas!!
Awesome video GenTech, please do more ship histories if possible.
Question, shouldn't the Falcon belong to Chewie? He's been co-pilot for so long, I think he's earned the pilot seat.
Interesting movie idea:
"VADER"
Directed by Genndy Tartakovsky
Aa-5 is the r2d2 of ships next to the falcon. It’s seen almost every major battle for the rebels and helped progress other characters stories in brief appearances, sometimes even with R2 being on board
WW2 pilots LOVED flying the early marks of Spitfires. Most pilots who flew later marks said they were less fun and more tricky to fly. Newer isn’t always better.
Until the P-51 Mustang.
You know when a design gets copied and updated continuously... it's good! But also "there is no school, like old school!"
Just look at the F-15 and F-16, as well as the F/A-18. Completely different aircraft from forty years ago.
This was amazing 🤩 video Allen nice 👍 job I loved 💗 it was really good😊!!!!!!!!!
Big thanks, this is why I love this channel, the story on the model development and use in the movies is equally fascinating
Let's be honest. If "Rise of Skywalker" made 0,0000001% sense, Luke's X-Wing scene would have been this:
Rey: "Will you let me have your ship, Luke?" 😃
Luke's spirit: "Honey, that thing has been submerged at the bottom of the sea for years. It must be as rusty as it is starved of fuel. By the way, I'm a ghost, so all the support I can give yoy is purely motivational."
Rey: "So this is what having a flaw with consequences feels like..." 😢
Well Rey is established to be quite mechanically competent, and she would have the help of both R2-D2 AND BB-8, both quite brilliant repair droids, AND she is friends with Chewbacca...so if anyone can fix a starfighter that was buried at the bottom of a swamp for decades it would be her. Also worth noting that what better spacecraft to do that with than one that has been in that situation before and survived.
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1. Rey was completely alone at the moment. She was literaly trapped here, with no one besides Luke being able to help her.
2. Realistically speaking, the X-Wing would be so deteriorated at this point, it would need a TON of new pieces to work again. Repair droids/wookies aren't enough
@@TetsuShima thankfully this is Star Wars, a franchise which has long been established to not always operate on realistic physics.
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I don't know, ships are probably the part of Star Wars that is most realistically treated. Only the hyper-space stuff looks fsntastical to me
@@johnrickard8512 it operates on the physics that are established within the story. don't simp for Disney. Cold has issues as stated in Empire Strikes Back when they said the speeders were still being adapted to the cold.
Why do people keep referring to it as "Red-5?" Call signs are assigned to pilots, not planes or ships. This is why Luke was originally given that call sign, because the previous pilot with the call sign was killed in the Battle of Scarif, and I mean that ship was totally destroyed, so it's not like Luke was given that ship. Luke did not keep that call sign however, he was "Rogue Leader" in The Empire Strikes Back, and even if you assume that Rogue Squadron only referred to the snowspeeder squadron, Luke would've been "Red Leader" in his X-Wing (Wedge Antilles is Rogue 2 in Empire and Red Leader in ROTJ, so he clearly succeeded Luke as the head of that squadron once Luke joined the ground mission at Endor. The legends material I believe gives readers the idea that Rogue Squadron, which is referred to many other times, did include X-Wings and was only called "Red Squadron" at the Battle of Endor in honor of the original Red Squadron from the Battle of Yavin. Either way, Luke clearly did NOT keep using Red-5 as a call sign, so it makes no sense to refer to his ship by that designation.)
Fair point, but we all know what he's talkin' about in this vid. 👍
Coming in hot with a 737 max reference. Nice.
I have 1,000 flight hours logged on Microsoft Flight Simulator so I guess that I'm qualified to fly intercontinental flights.
Ah, a man of good taste. My first car was a 64 1/2 coupe with a 289. My current daily driver is a 2006. But my baby is my '69 Mach I. I do love me some Mustangs! Great video on the T-65 X-Wing! She remains my absolute favorite tactical sci-fi ship. Nothing like her!
I owned a 1966 Mustang with a rare K-code 289 Hi-Po motor and I loved that car but I preferred my 1966 Ford F-100 truck with a 390 engine and 4 barrel Holly carb. That damn truck was fast. I plan on a 69 Mustang for my next one.
Yep, the classics. My first car was a ‘70 Mustang fastback, 302 that had been oversized .030 and taken to essentially Boss 302 specs. Always wanted a Boss 429, 1969 preferred but 1970 would be ok as well. Costs more than an X-Wing does now.
Cool beans bro. I just restored a 302 boss. With upgrades.. I'm trying to find a 351 Boss that needs attention. Don't care about making it original. Just period correct, more or less..
Totally agree with the mustangs
Rey really was a total criminal.
She not only stole his lightsaber , but she also swiped his jedi books , his starfighter , his last name and his house on Tattouine .
Not to mention she stole the Millennium Falcon .
She stole everything that wasn't nailed down .
And not to mention, she BURIED ANAKIN’S LIGHTSABER IN SAND
Dude this video seriously made me appreciate the ot and star wars as a whole more. I love u thanks
Every time you introduce your name I picture a sudden close-up of a Jurassic-Park Raptor.
"A true classic never goes out of style."
THIS is the video I've been waiting for!! Thanx!
0:39
Where is that clip of the Z-95 from? It looks sick and well animated.
Jedi survivor
@@beaubugarin7551 Huh, thanks.
4:33 I’m not sure what the canon explanation would be, but a mobile factory would make much more sense. It seems to me that the modularity of the GR-75 would make it an ideal small-scale factory ship.
Probably a very decentralized series of mobile factories building different small parts that all go to one final assembly. The Germans tried it towards the end of WW2 with their aircraft and missiles. But it only works if you can get the components to that final assembly without .50cal holes.
The modern equivalent would probably be the 787 from Boeing. Almost none of the aircraft is actually built in Everett or Charleston. They are built ALL over the world and all the parts come together at one place for final assembly. For extra interesting, several parts are made by Airbus, I believe in Italy.
Have a few small factories making a few different parts each, and bring them all together on a ship or base. That also spreads out your supply chain for spare parts so one factory being destroyed doesn't mean you have no more engines or seat cushions.
My head Cannon is that the T-65A were built at the Incom factory and the T-65B was a simplified version produced at secret Rebel Facilities. The T-65C was a late war improved version. Original T-65 prototype. T-65A for initial production run that had more "polished" look. T-65B which was simplified and more rugged for Rebel use- included a Hyperdrive that was same model as Standard on Y-Wings to improve compatibility. (lots of Y-wing hyperdrives avaible for use) T-65C improved fire control and systems as well as improved shields. Standard T-65Bs could be upgraded to this model.
Terms like "X-wing" "Y-Wing" and "A-Wing" are not technical designations but monikers (like an F-15E being known as a "Strike Eagle")
Originally the Term "Wing" was a marketing term used by Koensayer for marketing the Y-Wing (the idea being that space frame was highly adaptable for multiple uses such as fighter, recon, bomber, attack, patrol etc.) Y-Wing was a modular ship that could be rebuilt with different parts for different mission types but using the same basic drive core and hyperdrive and frame. This was why the Rebels LOVED the Y-wing despite it being old.
X-Wing was a term invented by Incom to follow the concept coined by Koensayer during the Clone Wars although the X-wing was not nearly as modular as the Y-Wing (Rebels for this reason did not modify X-wings as much as Y-wings mainly usesing their T-65s as space superiority and limited bombing work) Also X-wings were always built as single seaters while Y-wings would have a Varity of crew configurations.
The A-wing was originally not ever called "A-wing" but "R-22 Spearhead" but rebels took their R-22 and heavily modified them into RZ-1 "A-wing" interceptors.
the R-22 was a significantly less capable ship than the RZ-1 since it had a new more powerful drive core and updated avionics and fire control.
Drive core is the "heart" of any Starwars ship with the basic equation being Drive core power-size-ships Mass= ship speed, maneuverability, hyperdrive speed.
B-Wing followed suit after it was developed as an anti-Ship specialized fighter and the Rebels continued their tradition of giving ships a "Wing" name.
Great video till the end
Womp womp
When I was a kid, watching A New Hope for the very first time, I knew that I was never going to become a Jedi. (I look terrible in a brown robe)
But while every kid was "training" with their lightsabers and trying to "mind trick" the teacher into less homework, *I* was dreaming about being an X-wing pilot. The Boss 302 of the galaxy.😉
Thanks for the breakdown, Alan. Red-5 deserves major props.
Considering this is the Star Wars universe I'm actually not too surprised that Luke's X-Wing only needed a bit of repair after all that time underwater. This is a universe where long forgotten facilities still have functioning security systems and droids after thousands and thousands of years of neglect and disuse. Still think the Disney trilogy is hot shit though and not sure I'll ever forgive them for what they did to Luke's character
Hot shit? More like splattered diahrrea.
The sequel trilogy is like poetry. It rhymes with the garbage of the prequels
@@hazb8026 Thats a spicy take right there.
I, personally, will NEVER forgive Disney for trashing my great memories of Luke!
dude…!?!…you know your shit and your deliverance is FLAWLESS!🤙🏼
Alan, can you make a video on the U-Wing?
Yes please, I love the U-wing, it reminds me of an Arwing from Starfox with the wings deployed.
Great vid. In my opinion, the X Wing was basically based on the UK Spitfire. The best fighter plane in the entire WW2 years
Good point, but the Spitfire was more like an interceptor especially in the early years of war, while the X- Wing is a multi role fighter. (I think the P-51 is more comparable to this role)
Mustang and Corsair would like a word with you.
@@pauka13 then would the Z-95 Headhunter be the Curtiss P-40 Warhawk?
There was a small snippet of a pair of z95's at 0:40. What was that from? I'd like to watch the original video.
Its a cutscene from the game Jedi Survivor
Excellent excellent videos thank you great idea great video
Generations Tech from a fan of Star Wars to a Star Wars UA-camr, a question in Star Wars Canon the origin of the force is where the wellspring of life Mortis or the force exist everywhere. In all of Star Wars please, my friend, explain to me anybody.
I think you could say that both are true, although the wellspring isn't on Mortis its on that mysterious planet Yoda visits during TCW
@@GenerationTech yeah but ice read and Star Wars Canon that the forest exist everywhere in all of Star Wars not just in one place is that true or not some say it is like Kenobi explained on episode four remember
@@GenerationTech like this, the force has a will of its own it works in mysterious ways it gave life to shimi Skywalker’s womb created by the midichlorians themselves and what we know and called Anakin Skywalker was born so yes, in Star Wars Canon, the force itself is the real and true creator, father of Anakin Skywalker fact
Hey Alan, talking about Mustangs... I've seen a review, yesterday, of a rc Mustang... It's called ZLL SG216 and it just rips balls! 😂
I'm going to get one as soon as I can! 😂
The Rebel Alliance sliding up into Incom's DMs.
I imagine the info stated about who the first rebel pilot to be killed at the Battle of Yavin comes from some new(er) Disney cannon source, but in the actual film of "A New Hope" the first rebel pilot shown on screen to be killed is "Porkins." i.e., remember this?:
"I've got a little problem here."
"Eject!"
"I can hold it! ........GWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
John was the first to be shot down by a TIE.
How fast was the hyperdrive aboard the X-wings? How quickly could they get from point A to point B ? Do those hyperlight-enabled starfighters have a full life- support system, with full connections available to the pilots when needed, if a flight needs to last more than 12 hours, being cooped up in those tiny pilot seats only?
@9:30 Unstable flow of fuel/energy to an engine would generate an unsteady amount of thrust from an engine. Given that spacecraft use their engines to steer rather than control surface, due to a lack of atmosphere, This would result in the same problems and damaged control surface would for an aircraft. Basically, Different terminology, same problem except the explanation works in a vacuum.
Allen, I think you’ll agree that the 351-Cleveland equipped 1969 Mustang Mach 1 rules!!!
Thanks for the info dude
I always wondered what happened to his ship after he left it at Cloud City. Also, Luke constructs his new lightsaber on Tatooieen. Not just the deleted scene on Return of the Jedi, but the part when Vader is talking to him on the landing platform on Endor. "I see you have constructed a new lightsaber, now your training is complete." Palpatine says something similar in the throne room. "Ah much like your father's"
Obi Wan left him some parts, some knowledge and a journal to find a Kyber Crystal. That's what Luke was missing. Normally it takes a Jedi about a month to put the parts together with the force alone, and do all the fine tuning so it doesn't blow up. They are very tempermental. Just ask Tenel Ka. Her first attempt cost her an arm. Obi Wan left instructions from the clone wars, and previous jedi wars with the sith and manalorians and stuff that taught them how to 'mass produce' a light saber in a few nights of meditation and, Luke also happens to be a fucking master mechanic, just like Anakin. So you see him putting one together with his hands, not his force powers is a big deal. That cut scene had a bit more too it. Read the book I, Jedi. Talks a lot about how a jedi passes their test of making a lightsaber and the faster method.
Something I had never thought of until now, but, New Hope must have the biggest body count in movie history. Between the Death Star and Alderon. PHEW!
A super cool and printed spaceship for 20!
(I wish, there were functional A-Wing for 20; TIE, Z-, and E-Wing for 30; B-,Y-, and X-Wing for 40. Okay, plus 10% SW-Tax)
Luke Skywalker the X-Wing pilot is not explored enough, especially in canon
I think that Rey should gift the X-Wing to R2 as they have known that X-Wing just as long as Luke
I love your idea for making a Vader movie including that sequence, that would be so cool.
Another excellent video. Watched till the very end. Keep up the great work!
You're crack'in me up Allan !!!
Fun Fact: Red 5 was his call sign, not the number of the fighter he was in. It was called Red Squadron and they had numbers within that as their call sign so they could know who was talking, just like military pilots in the real world do, and no, his call sign is not the same as his nickname, such as "Iceman".
@10:39 wasn't keyan Farlander the gold squad y-wing pilot that survived?
That may have been previously in Legends, but Disney changed it with the "Princess Leia" comic book series which is where the info that Generation Tech describes comes from. (I have the series myself.)
yeah I missed this video being about discanon until later in the video.@@skyden24195
I never understood why Disney thought they needed to change certain EU things, like Incom defecting to the Rebellion. What was wrong with the original way they did it?
Disney didn't change that, I remember hearing that explanation from some of the games way before disney had anything to do with star wars.
When you said Mustang, I thought you were talking about the P-51 not the car
Red 5, standing by!
That is it! A T-65 is the equivalent of a GT350 Mustang. :)
Day 324 PLEASE DO MORE TACTICS VIDEOS AND STRUCTURES LIKE THE CIS NAVY STRUCTURE AND RANKS
I remember reading in a comic how the Xwings R&D team defected and how a previous Red Squadron group had to escort them all to safety and how another Red 5 got blown to stardust during the escape... but i dont remember which where i read or which comic/issue it was to show my friends... anyone else know or remmeber the comic for it?
The X-Wing is my favorite fighter in Star Wars.
I Romberg when you where at 300k you have come so far!
Was any of the stuff from the Rogue Squadron games canon?
In the novel "Death Star" Over 120 X-Wings attacked the Death Star to try to damage it (this was before they found out the weak spot). All were lost plus their carrier. Then Disney took over and changed anything.
In referenc to the P-D Mustang you mentioned, me, I prefer the FF- Hellcat. Different tastes, I presume.
Me, I prefer the P-47 or F4F
didn't another Red Squadron X-Wing survive Yavin 4? Because in the movie I saw three X-Wings (Luke's Wedge's and the one I'm Talking) about along with Ivon Verlaine's Y-Wing and the Falcon fly away from the death star who was piloting that unknown X-Wing?
Incom factories?
I take that to mean in Disney canon, Incom didn't flee with the X-Wing plans just ahead of Imperial take over of the company?
How many times has Star Wars retconned the identity of the Y-Wing pilot who survive the Battle of Yavin?
AA-589 is probably in a museum I imagine. It got buried underwater I doubt it won't be in prime condition to fly any further after Exegol.
Summarised. Built. Guy died in rogue one. Somehow luke gets same x wing. It destroys death star. Then acts as a taxi until Rey Sue owns it like every other fan service object.
They should have made an entire movie about wedge as he was such a great pilot.
T-65s is where it's at. Poe can have his T-70. I'll take the classic
Would you do a old Republic star fighters. Sith star destroyers
i havent been this early since before Incom defected!
but seriously thank you Allen for providing us with consistently high quality Star Wars content, merry christmas man we love you
Luke put his X-Wing underwater as to hide it from being on land to be spotted more easily. When Rey finds Luke, Luke was suffering from Despair (Despair - The voluntary and complete abandonment of all hope of saving one's soul and of having the means required for that end, Catholic Encyclopedia 1917) of having losing hope with his own self.
The earliest Mustangs were pretty cool, but I agree with Ken Miles from Ford v Ferrari. The Chevelle was a much better engineered car.
Dude you should do one on the swoop bikes
I'm not a huge fan. But it makes me sad to think of Rey inheritung both Red 5 AND the Falcon while doing nothing except swinging a lightsaber at a rock for 5 minutes as training.
In fact it doesn't make me sad, it makes me sick.
I like you. You speak the facts.
When Luke points out the stabilizer issue, his X-Wing starts shaking more.
Small single seat ships like the Luke Skywalker's T-65B were capable of interstellar travel and the layouts of their cockpits did not have access to a larger cabin. So what is a star pilot to do when it comes to long periods in one position? Are those "capsules" the ripest places? When USAF pilots ferry their fighters and strike aircrafts across oceans, the trip will take hours. When pilots in Star Wars transit, the trip could take days if not longer. So how does that work when their is no support logistics at weypoints? It's not like there is a random AM/PM floating an asteroid field. Is this where we as the audience suspend our beliefs?
Few points, ..
a.) hyper drive makes travel between planets only one to three days depending on space sector region.
b.) Early high-altitude bomber crews during the Cold War wore " depends/ urine tube " so sanitation gear is part of the flight suit.
c.) Artificial gravity and stretch leg room of the cock pit.
d.) Xwing novels, for Long flights, the pilot takes a long nap by slightly depressurize their cabin space and the Astrotech flight computer runs the spacecraft till destination time.
Overall the Xwing is between 10ft to 20 ft longer than modern van motor homes.
Overall the Xwings normally only spend a few 10's of minutes in hyperspace flight to make attack runs and the falcon could carry eight Xwings.
Also you don't fly randomly in space when you should stick to know hyperspace lanes.
Cloud City with a functional hyperdrive from Hoth in the Star Wars Atlas is only two days away with a class 1 military hyperdrive. Barely four days from Yoda swamp. Han had to run the Falcon's back up which made the trip take around a 30day month.
@GenerationTech Minor quibble really but "Red 5" doesn't refer to the ship itself. at 4 minutes you actually show a "Red 5" being shot down over scarif. "Red 5" refers to a member of Red Squadron not their fighter.
omg someone that can pronounce biopic, gonna have to subscribe now lol
Wasn't Porkins the first Rebel Pilot to die during the attack on the Death Star?
Anyway... great video.
Edit: Remember... he had "a problem".
My dude, Porkins goes down first. Pour one out for my boy Jek.
And pour another one out for Keyan Farlander, from whom Evaan Verlaine subsumed the distinction of 'only Y-wing to survive Yavin'.
Did Vader know it wat R2 on Luke's X-Wing?
I would take the old bird and customize it. A customized t65 would be pretty sweet.
Seeing the Imperial Gov't (propaganda) Advert for the TIE Fighter early in this vid and thinking of many others I've seen over multiple vids, I was wondering Allen if you might consider dedicating a video, to the multiple propaganda promotional displays that SW has provided us? Some are quite cool and hearing any historical facts associated with them (in-story and behind the scenes), I think would be quite interesting. :)
Of course, thanks again for a great vid Buddy!
Per the new Dawn of Rebellion guide, Saw's X-wings were stolen from Incom.
I miss being reminded that I'm Generation Tech. 🎉