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@@pinnochiho.1 I like to think Raj eventually found his true love, he came so far on his journey so it makes sense he was still single by the end of TBBT but I'd like to think he continued to develop and eventually settled down.
I like to think that Stuart created a comic book that became a big hit and was eventually adapted into a TV series. It later turns out that it’s an over exaggerated adaptation of his friends.
What is strange about Stuart is that he starts off as a talented artist who perfectly draws Penny and he is quite confident and actually gets a date with Penny. But then he becomes a self-deprecating guy who ends up practically homeless
Like so many sitcoms over the years, the writers took one minor aspect of his character and decided to just make that their whole persona, because it's just easy to write jokes for that.
Jake Harper went from a cute, clever and engaging nephew to Charlie Harper to a lazy, stupid and self- degenerative nincompop on TAHM. Both shows were Chuck Lorre sitcoms. Both Stuart and Jake's characters were reduced to saps.
Your comment had me wondering, so I just rewatched all 3 episodes with Stephanie, and this was at least the 3rd time around that I have watched these episodes over the span of about 13 years. It never dawned on me that she just vanished after that 3rd episode, and we never officially saw the breakup. I figured out the reason for my forgetting what happened to her. The very next episode was one of my favorite episodes of all time on the show. The Bath Item Gift Hypothesis.
It was just bad writing. The same as when Priya Koothrappali was written off the show and then the guys needed a lawyer for the Guidance System that the government took from them.
In season 2 episode 18, Penny receives a shipment when she orders the flowers for her hair clips (Penny Blossoms). On the box you see her last name: Teller. Apparently it was said that the writers are big fans of Penn & Teller & as an ode to the comedic magician duo, since her first name already has "Penn" in it, her last name naturally would be Teller. Later on Teller ends up playing Amy's dad who seldom speaks! 😂
The producers and writers say that her last name is not Teller and that the props dept just put a label on the box - they were told it would not be visible in the shot.
I will never forgive the show for not giving raj the romantic comedy romance he's been wanting. Even stuart who isn't even apart of the original gang ended up with someone, but not raj. I hope they do a 10 episode special (cough HBO cough paramount plus cough) showing raj having his dream meet cute and wedding
yess and raj would've had the best wedding out of all the couples because he loves organising them i think it would've looked amazing. i would love to see his wedding sm it would make me so happy. also they could've easily made an entire episode on it
Also, it was an ongoing side gig, where one of the guys had to get to slap him, and I believe that moment was perfect. It was like the other guys' Nobel Prize. They couldn't end the show without it.
If there were two things that disappointed me about the show it's that Penny got pregnant in the final episode after being very clear that she didn't want kids, which was clearly a fan service thing (not sure if fans were actually happy with that, because I wasn't) and that Raj never got the happy ending he always wanted.
I'm glad she was pregnant. For everything Leonard has done for her this was the best gift she could give him. They will be great parents. Obviously role reversals as penny will be the cool parent and Leonard the grounded parent trying to be cool lol
To the question of the kind of dad Sheldon will make, I just want to say that one of the stand-out highlights of Young Sheldon for me has been watching just how deeply George Sr. really cares for each child, including Sheldon. I think Sheldon actually has a great role model in his dad.
I actually never realized he and Stephanie never had an on screen breakup until you guys pointed it out lol the last thing we heard was he was going to sleep with her again
The whole idea that Sheldon and Penny swapped apartments was ridiculous. Amy should have moved in with Sheldon and Leonard should have moved across the hall to live with Penny in her place.
I really wish they had Leonard's experiment prove Sheldon's and Amy's theory. It would have have been a good balance to Leonard disproving an early theory by Sheldon. They could have shared the Nobel Prize and Sheldon could have finally showed appreciation for Leonard as a scientist.
I like the whole Penny not being sure about kids, going back and forth with the decision and being happy in the end when it happened (it's kinda obvious it wasn't planned, like how many references to her checking pregnancy test in panic were there lol). She was young, focused on her looks, scared of commitment, let alone being a parent. She matured over those 12 years, started feeling better about herself, more secure in the relationship, more confident in her job. She only said that maybe she didn't want to have kids at all when someone pushed her - first Bernadette and Amy, then Leonard, show me something that screams defense more than that.
she does not go back and forth , she clearly does not want to . And no it was just for fan service or the society , cause how can a women not want kidss , right ??
I love this show but it also frustrates me to no end. Here are some of the reasons why: 1)Why did they regress Howard and Sheldon's relationship in the later seasons. After semi-making up, yhey had a fun dynamic and also quite a bit in common: fathers left/died when they were young, single mama and the troubles that has(seeing them move on with other ppl) , both consider themselves the alphas of their duos, etc 2) Why did it feel, in general, that they regressed the gang's friendship in the later seasons. To me, towards the end they barely felt like friends, like they cared for each other. They were hostile to each other in not a very funny way. 3) Sheldon should've cared more when he found out Penny was pregnant, regardless of what was going on in his life. They had a sibling like relationship,closer than his actual siblings, so he really should've cared more. Jokes could even have been made about how elated he was and how absurd that was for him. 4) Raj was done dirty. Left in limbo. Everyone developed, he didn't. He definitely deserved more, especially in the relationship sector, seeing as how much he'd always wanted to find true love. 5) Leonard and his mom's relationship always returned to square one each time she visited, no matter how much she'd change during each visit. 6) Pennh and Leonard seemed to be quite a missmatched couple by the end of the show. I feel a better direction to have taken them in was each discovering that they liked the idea of being together but it just wouldn't work out for them. Leonard realises he's chased Penny for years but being together isn't really working. Penny discovers she's with Leonard out of some feeling of pity or sth. They each then find a different better love interest and learn to be OK with it. Just a few thoughts 😅
I thought it was sweet finding out how well loved Carol Ann Susi was on the Big Bang set. They talked about how after she died it took them time to process it and how to explain it in the show. I personally thought it was very touching how they worked it in. By having her pass peacefully while away avoided a lot of potentially uncomfortable story ideas. Instead the phone call let us feel the effect without dealing with her personally. Howard's own reaction was gut wrenching for how real it felt. When he says he's never going to be able to talk to her again or how upset he was at himself for not driving her to the airport, the last time he would have seen her. Even Sheldon got some wonderful moments, like saying how when his own father died he didn't have any friends to support him but Howard does. Or that clip where he says her yelling was annoying but he's going to miss it. I'm tearing up a little just thinking about it.
You briefly see part of her when she in pulling Stuart back in the window. Youy can tell it is Carol Ann Susi if you look at a picture of her first. The scene in the kitchen you only see the dark hair but it could have been her.
There’s also a glimpse of her in the episode of Howard & Bernadette’s wedding on the roof. I believe she’s off to the side when they’re zooming out for the Google satellite pic
The alien pin on Howard's turtle neck is probably a reference to Star Trek. The characters from that show have little studs on their collar that probably indicate rank. & one thing that usually doesn’t get pointed out is that Bernadette's character changes early on. She's suddenly more confident & brash than first depicted.
Amy changed too, she was a Sheldon clone but slowly became more human and than eventually made him more so. It is clear that Sheldon is suppose to be autistic but the writers do not want to stigmatize the condition by ever declaring so, he is cartoon version unlike Shaun on The Good Doctor who acts like a human that is a savant with autism too.
Penny might be Penelope. That was what she named her video game character. Also I was curious to know what happened between Dr Gablehauser and Sheldon's mum!!
nothing long-term happened between Gablehauser and Mary. It was never referred to again after that ep. Mary remained single living in Texas. Sheldon visited her a few times in subsequent episodes.
Never understood why they chose to get Penny pregnant in those last episodes. She made it clear many times that she didn't want to have kids. She was okay with caring and loving her friends' kids, but she didn't want any of her own. It didn't even feel like she wanted to be a mother in those last episodes because she was so doubtful and scared about it. It felt more like she just accepted her fate rather than wanting to be a mother. I always felt like Penny getting pregnant was more to get Leonard a happy ending than for her.
Exactly. They did the same with Bernadette. She made it VERY clear that she hated kids and as Howard said himself- the feeling was mutual. And then she has two. It works for Sheldon and Amy because she wanted kids and she wanted to be a respected scientist AND a mother. Which was good to show people who feel pressured into one that they can be both. But making two successful women who are happy in their relationships and really don't want kids... Have kids... 🥴 it never sat right with me.
Penny makes a point to tell Sheldon that it's ok to accept change. That's why she sleeps with Leonard that night with no condom. She isn't afraid of the inevitability of change.
@@haywoodjoel Lol if this is true, the debate is over. Having s without a condom on purpose? Case closed. People on here acting like it's not possible for a human to change their mind.
@@kva5751 people assume that decision requires a massive shift in ideology. Those people don't have kids. Sometimes people go from no to... Why not, if it happens?
@@erurainon6842 Facts. Leonard and Penny had much more potential to look and be written as a much better couple than what we got. Can I recommend something to you in which Leonard and Penny have a much bette relationship than what the show gave, which was a very crappy and toxic portrayal of relationships/marriages, than had many stupid written moments?
This is one of the times I really felt for Howard. My dad ignored me most of my life and then, suddenly, started giving me attention. After a few days of being a loving father, he walked out of my life. So Howard's story about how his father abandoned him and left only a note really gets to me.
You are not alone which is probably why they wrote it in. I suspect someone on the show knows someone or is someone like that. Raj's selective muteness is based upon someone Bill Prady knows.
Penny doesn't go back & forth on whether or not she wants kids; she clearly doesn't. She's vocal about that, which Leonard, Bernadette & Amy respond to by biting her head off. She's bizarrely pleased when she discovers she's pregnant.
That’s because this show was GARBAGE in the last four seasons. The writing was trash, the acting was TERRIBLE, and overall…it just wasn’t pleasing to watch. The camera quality was the one thing that disappointed me a lot; it wasn’t like it used to be. Can I recommend something to you if you were disappointed the same way I was? I know you’ll LOVE IT. PS: you can’t really DEFEND, Penny. She stopped being a character to root for, and overall, became…unlikable; she became a TERRIBLE woman/person/wife (not completely unlike her actress in real life). She just…wasn’t the same likable character she once was and showed love and respect towards Leonard. Every time Penny was in camera, she gave off this…bad vibe. Her smile (more like an infuriating smug, she hat made me want to punch her) and her presence always made the scenes seem…dark and negative. Every time she delivered a line, it was bound to be mean, bitchy, and definitely NOT funny. 🤦♂️.
Raj doesn't have much character development. He has many clear & easily fixable faults which he & his friends are well are of. I expected him to improve & end up in a happy LTR. I don't know why the writers didn't bother with that, leaving him unhappily single.
@@albertelnen9144In that scene Howard tells Raj to go, but only if he truly loved her and couldn't be without her. He didn't want his friend to settle for a wife just because he was still single. I think that is the point, Raj isn't unhappily single in the end, he learns not to settle when it comes to love, and for a guy who started the series too nervous to talk to women unless drunk that is character development.
@@albertelnen9144 Because Raj & Anu were clearly unsuited & had both decided to rush into marriage because they wanted to be like their friends & please their families.
i feel like they cant make it like a scandal or a giant thing, otherwise sheldon would probably mention it, but if its too small it wouldnt make sense for such a friendship to just disappear, i feel like they need to be really careful what they write in
I think they sort of answer it, with Paige rejecting her brilliance after her parent's divorce. That could reinforce Sheldon's avoidance of relationships? She was the only one who could run circles around him.
I remember that there was an update regarding Sheldon's parenting in the latest young sheldon season. The episode showed her twin sister's rebellious phase, which sheldon narrated that his son is currently in that phase as well or somethin. I'm not sure if I remember it correctly though.
"In Leonard's defense it wasn't for a lack of trying." Sheldon never omits clarification. It would be an insult to science, and that's more important than insulting people in his world. Goes far to explaining why he's so alone, even around people he's alone.
As someone getting my PhD, I’m not any smarter than someone with a masters, I just have more experience in the academic Environment. I have not take taken any more classes than a master student in the same field of science, there’s no additional classroom learning, it’s just more time and responsibilities while being mentored in academia (5-7 years for a PhD vs 1-2 for a masters). Then the masters goes to have a career and gets experience that way, while the PhD gets continues to get experience at the university.
Nearing the end of earning my Masters, I had three different professors offering to write letters of recommendation, if I wanted to pursue my PhD. But I had one pull me aside and say, "Don't get your PhD unless you intend on teaching as a carrier. It will limit your employability." I took his advice and make a nice living. As I approach potential retirement, I have been approached by one of the local universities. It seems that they are having problems finding someone to teach differential and integral calculus. They are dangling an Associate Professorship. My thoughts are (1) that would be a nice, low stress, part time job, and (2) I hated my calculus professor, do I want to become my own worst enemy?
@@davidsandy5917maybe you could be a better teacher than your own teacher and make your students fall in love with math. I had great math students in college and they changed my perception of math
I concur with this statement, I have a BA Hons degree, and was going to study for my MA but couldn't get funding. I do not consider someone with an MA or PhD any more intelligent than myself and the subject matter is irrelevant. Intelligence can only be partially measured by educational attainment, there's other forms of intelligence like common sense, spatial, physical etc. Also IQ level. That's why Sheldon mildly annoys me the way he digs at Howard for having a Masters not a PhD, because it's just the amount of time spent in the education system that's different, not the intellectual ability.
It is his second love on TBBT. I tried watching Young Sheldon but it was too loud, the real Sheldon would have gone nuts. So I have only seen the premiere episode.,
16:13. Correction. Dr. B. Hostedter was proud of exactly one of Leonard's accomplishments: marrying Penny. Beverly said that she was less impressed by Leonard's sibling's choices of spouses.
I honestly feel sorry for Sheldon's kids. Not because I think he would be unable to become a good father, but because throughout the show it subtly becomes clear on numerous occasions that it's important to him his children are smart and well-educated. If they're interested in sciences etc., I'm sure he's a great dad. But if there's an average kid among them, I'm sure the relationship will be awful because he would have much too high expectations.
I disagree about any average kids. First, he has Amy to help guide him, and reminding him that he has a couple siblings who are not extraordinary. He will be with the child(ren) every single day from the beginning. They will all have changes based on each other, subtly, slowly over time. Sheldon proved his willingness to slowly adapt to new things. And, the children will have aunt Penny. The entire series demonstrated her patience and her heart, with the unique ability to accept anyone without judgment preventing her from giving them a chance. It helped them all grow and become capable of integrating all their worlds. So, I believe Sheldon and Amy's kid(s) will be ok.
In the young sheldon show (narrated by Sheldon) he mentions having to take his son Leonard to the skate park (despite hating parks) So I assume, he becomes the sort of father to accept and love his kids even if their interests aren't to his taste
Disagree. I think Sheldon had a lot of good character development due to his friends and Amy, they taught him how to be a better nicer person. So I don't think he would be too hard on his kids if they turned out average.
Maybe, because I share some of Sheldon's characteristics, I think Sheldon would make for a great Dad. He had his father as a role model and whether or not he would have admitted it, that influence would be passed down to the next generation. The only thing that I would complain about is, "Why my middle name couldn't have been Nimoy?" 😊
Sheldon will become the father that he wanted be and the one that his children needed. Howard and Raj will help him. Their children will trap them in a house using video games as a lure on a regular basis for a break from their parents. Penny will be become the Grand Dame that she was meant to become like Olenna Tyrell from GOT. Beverly will shock herself and become the pushover grandmother that lets Leonard and Penny’s kids get away with anything. Leonard’s father and Sheldon’s mother will be friends and they will fake a romantic relationship to torture Beverly and their respective sons. I know what the pins on Howard’s collar are…Star Trek officers have those on their collars which indicate rank (they are called pips). Howard is doing it to let any possible aliens know that he is a friend.
When zoomed in at the noble prize crowd, isn't that Sarah Michelle Gellar next to Raj? Next to her is Steven Spielberg correct? Pause at 09:44 to see them
#1 is Howard’s father, and it is not particularly close. Unlike most of these entries, Howard’s father abandoning his son was a major plot point that was spotlighted in multiple episodes, including arguably the best episode of the series.
When Howard's half-brother Josh visits, Howard still has no interest in finding out what's happened to their father. Howard doesn't want to know why he left, where he is, if he left Josh & his mother as well etc. Josh is only in one ep & is never mentioned again. Howard later says he has no siblings, despite knowing that to be untrue.
I didn’t like the way they initially spoke of Josh, like when Raj was getting ready to make him leave. It’s not Josh’s fault Howard’s father abandoned him. He should have been included more. There were a lot of rocks left unturned when the show ended, which was annoying.
@@StealthMode3924 You can't force people to have contact. I know someone who was abandoned by mother and father when very young. Sometimes his half siblings reach out, then there are one or two E-Mails and it dies down again. They didn't grow up together and have no common history. After the "accident" of the same parent, they simply had nothing in common.
@@i.b.640 then he could have said “I’m Sorry, I’m not ready for this right now.” Nobody forced them to invite him in, they did, and Raj was rude to him from the get go, and when going to tell him to leave, he wasn’t exactly polite about that either. I’m saying the show should have brought him back because he and Howard eventually realized they had a bit in common and ended on a good note, and he seemed like an interesting character. Again, it’s not Josh’s fault Howard’s father left, he was born after. The only one to blame for leaving is Howard’s father.
@@StealthMode3924 I didn't get angry vibes at all, don't worry, just a well illustrated point. My point was, that even if you have something in common, if you didn't grow up together it can just peter out naturally, without any residual anger left. It happend with the most people I know who met their half siblings way later. I agree, that your version would have been more satisfying and more complete writing, and chances are, the authors just forgot about him. In my experience, meeting once, having wild emotions, ending on a nice note and then never meet again is relativly realistic.
Raj becomes more curious as a character. Understated culturally searching for his soulmate. Raj will go to extremes to hide his shyness but goes overboard to display the opposite.
It isn't. If you watch the actual episode there is absolutely no point in the show where a clear shot of the package label is ever clearly shown on screen. The supposed screen shot from that episode is photoshopped, a fake label that was mocked up to make it appear like it came from that episode.
Good point! And I think that his store ran very well after the episode in which Neil Gaiman tweets about it, so maybe he later opened more stores and got really big.
@@KwatschkramTV Man, Neil has sure aged from when I saw him. It was probably the weirdest encounter I have had, 3 people showed up. I was unprepared for a 1 on 1 as such. I only brought 1 Sandman for him so sign expecting a crowd. So I asked him "what if I brought the entire series, what would you do?" Can you guess his answer ...
One of my favourite sitcoms ❤️. You know, I've never spotted the pins on Howard's turtle neck shirts .... 🤔. Now I'm going to see them whenever I see Howard 😁.
I have I Love Lucy, Seinfeld and TBBT on my DVR. I will watch each until I remember the entire episode and stop, I am close on Seinfeld, I finished Enterprise and am getting close on the original Star Trek.
I wish that they'd let Penny be content with not having children, especially since not all women are maternal, or see kids in their future. Instead, it seems like a cop out when the finale reveals her to be pregnant anyway. Same goes for Bernadette, who was also vocal about staying Child free, yet ended up having two back to back.
Glad I'm not the only one who felt that way. I know it was wish-fulfillment for a lot of fans, but I feel like the writers really rushed that storyline. Penny goes from not wanting to have kids to suddenly being ok with it. As a child free woman I was really disappointed. It was cool to see a character child-free be confident with that choice and then they did a complete 180 on it.
With Bernardeette she was really having one In real life look it up why she was pregnant a long time n they didn't want drop her from the show until she had it so they put her the same in the show n sometimes ppl changes their mind some of my family members did
Referring to Stuart's artistic talent, which we can observe both at the beginning of the series (he sketched in the store) and at the end (he did the illustrations for the story of the besieged astronaut), I was sure that at the end of the TBBT series there might be a plot in which Stuart created a comic book about his friends, and a popular TV station wants to make a series out of it, also paying him big money for his work on the set. And that the final episode will include a casting call for a future Nobel Prize winner, when Stuar says CUT!
I always thought the alien pin was a reference to Howards fathers absence. Him being alien.. in and episode Howard asks Alf to bring his father back, so the alien thing seems to be Howards way of always having a piece of his father with him
I think the Pin thing for Howard on the turtleneck is an ode to Star Trek Next Gen, where in that show the characters wore their ranks on their collar of the uniforms
It should have been a better written story arc that took up a lot of screen time and spanned seasons. Instead, it lasted in the background of the final season and was just an ex machina acting as fan service.
@@clapepez True, it's not all genetic. If you don't eat a healthy diet and exercise you probably won't be beautiful. And if you don't work hard in school applying yourself and studying hard, you probably won't be smart. It can take work to develop those traits.
This series desperately needs a reunion limited series (at least) where we see Raj get his romantic love story, and how everyone else is doing! But we all need to see Raj find true love.
One of the fun things about this show is that the characters actually do grow as people, which is hard to do find in long running comedies. Even side characters are allowed some growth, and it makes them all feel more real
Ha! Good one. No one grows and that’s one of the things that made me dislike the show. The last four seasons are GARBAGE. They RUINED the show. Leonard and Penny were my fav characters/relationship, and they were RUINED. I hated how the writers portrayed them seasons nine to twelve. Can I recommend something to you that I think you’ll like?
@@No_ConferenceThey didn't ruin L and P. They just sidelined them for Sheldon and Amy in S9, 10, 11. They have a lot more screentime in S12 in the Halloween episode, the 2 episodes where Zack wants Leonard to be his baby's father, Penny initially not wanting the baby but getting jealous because Leonard agreed to be father to Zack's baby. She rented Leonard a Batmobile😂. Lots of developments on that front in the last season.
@@dvornikovalexei NO, that’s all lazy. The show should’ve ended MUCH sooner. They DID ruin them. Penny doesn’t love Leonard throughout those last four seasons; she treats Leonard like shit, and became the slut she was in “The Bath Item Gift Hypothesis”, by pretending to like something she doesn’t like (D&D’s) to hang out with a married man. I wish Sofia Vergada had been there to beat the shit out of Penny for what she did to Leonard (you know, back when her and Joe were still together). The finale was also GARBAGE. Can I recommend something to you that fixes the problems the show had regarding them, and also makes both of them better for each other as well as better themselves as people? In it, Leonard does something that makes a genuine impact on Penny’s life that makes her love him more.
@@dvornikovalexei I never said you had to read my comment, just to look up the recommendation. It fixes the problems their relationship had. It also omits stupid writing that ruined the show like the stupid season eight finale, with Leonard’s confession.
For people saying Penny didn’t want kids, it’s just lazy writing honestly, throughout the series before the introduction of “Penny doesn’t want kids” she said she wanted kids, thought what kind of mom she would be...The “Penny doesn’t want kids” “storyline” was introduced for drama, it wasn’t something thought out and stated compared to like Robin from HIMYM
Forcing Penny to have kids was the lazy writing. It would have been more original for her to remain childfree and happy. Having Leonard accept this would have been better writing. Most TV shows force couples who do not want children to have them.
Yeah, the pregnancy arc was so unfair to Penny as everyone talks about how 'great' Leonard was to her (despite him cheating, insulting her intelligence, only wanting to sleep with her etc) but that's not a reason to have a kid with someone if you don't want to and it sucks that Penny was judged and criticised for it (as even Leonard got angry and threw her under the bus and told her Dad and left her to deal with it and initially left her when she got him a literal batmobile and his favourite dinner and of course, Sheldon was so insulting and inconsiderate when she did get pregnant and Leonard just spoke for Penny rather than asking how she felt about it). The way the show disregards what Penny wanted over (not wanting kids, giving up acting and being unhappy in her sales job) to make sure it's a happy ending for the men is so gross.
Yeah, I always kinda thought that she maybe assumed they'd have kids at some point but then when she thought about it a bit more, she realised that it wasn't what she actually wanted.
I always thought Sheldon and Penny were a better match (as in opposites attract and are compliments for each other), and I thought Leonard and Amy were a much better couple also. Love is strange sometimes that way.
Considering Sheldon's fascination with Beverly's parenting theories, Amy has her hands full keeping him in check and back towards decency, despite her upbringing. I worry for their kids.
I can't believe how asleep I was mentally when I realized that there are people with letters from parents that left them but have not yet opened up those letters because they want to but can't open the letters for fear of the letter's truth(s) and that's why Howard still kept his dad's letter.
With how many jokes they made alluding to Raj's sexuality throughout the show, I kinda wish that they actually made him gay (or bi) and all those jokes were just little stepping stones to him finally accepting it. It would have been a cute little story arc with him maybe finding another gay guy that has a lot in common with him (maybe a new hire at the university or they meet at the comic book store) that at first they become friends who hang out (purely platonically, though the gang will poke fun at him playfully of course) until one day he actually realizes he likes the other guy, and then there could be a sub-plot of him needing to tell his parents about it, and it could have just been a really cool story with the penultimate outcome being one (or both) of his parents finally accepting him. They could even throw in a funny bit where Priya gave them an ultimatum or something because I feel like Priya would be very supportive of him lol
Penny's maiden name? Hennessy...Believe it or not. In the early part of the show, Executive Producer Chuck Lorre came into her dressing room and found her (Kaley Cuoco) crying. She was in remembrance of her former TV dad , the late John Ritter. she said she owed him so much for getting her career to this point. After cheering her up and making her realize that he would've wanted her to continue on with her career, she finally worked up the courage to go out there and shoot the episode. Finally, when the question of Penny's maiden name came up, Chuck Lorre found himself remembering how sad she was in Remembering him (John Ritter). He began researching all past roles that he played to adapt them as Penny's maiden name. Finally he came across the name of the show she was on before TBBT. But instead of telling her and risking making her sad all over again, Mr. Lorre decided to keep it to himself. But given that Penny's mom is played by Katy Segal (As it was before in 8 simple rules), that was Mr. Lorre's way of giving us a clue as to what her maiden name was. Penny's maiden name is Hennessy, now married to Dr. Leonard Hofstader, one could say her name is Mrs. Penny Hofstader or Mrs. Penny Hennessy-Hofstader. Hey, it could've been worse. Penny Hooperman, Penny Tripper, Penny Hutton, Penny Healy, or Penny Cunningham.
None of these are cannon, but I found four theories for Penny's last name. One was, as has already been pointed out in the comments, Teller as it was on the shipping box in season 2, because of Penn and Teller. It was apparently just a place filler though, and the show runners didn't think anyone would actually be able to see what was written. Then there's Barrington, as Chuck Lorre suggested it once. Others say it's Wyatt, because she talks about her father as Bob in earlier seasons, and people (especially Americans in TV shows) are sometimes referred to by their last name as a nickname, even sometimes by partners, and this would make the Bob thing less of a plot hole. Lastly, there's Cali Cuoco's own favourite, which is that her name was actually Penny Penny (remember, it's implied her full first name is pennelope so it would sound less ridiculous if it was actually Pennelope Penny) and that gives Sheldon's knock an additional layer of meaning, like maybe he knew her last name, even if he does it with other characters for the reasons he reveals. I obviously like Barrington, because it's close to my last name (Berrington), and also if her full name is Pennelope Barrington it would make her sound like a princess. I must admit that Teller or Wyatt are probably better though, because we can find reasons to pretend they're cannon.
He does it three times and by your theory Amy Farrah Fowler's real name would then be Amy Amelia Fowler since he has done it to her too. Her name is Kaley and Amy is portrayed by Mayim Bialik not Mari Beeuhleek.
My guess for Penny's future is, that she works at the company for a while, but one day someone hears her voice and gives her acting career another try and she goes on to be Harley Quinn.
Yeah, hardly equivalent, he was not purposely hurting her which is why he likes Leonard so much, he just wanted her to not waste her time with the losers he had seen her date. He wanted her to be with a person she deserved. Leonard's mom was acting like a sociopath and treating him like specimen not a human.
I always wanted to see an episode where Penny breaks up with her latest boyfriend & tried to reconcile with Leonard & he refuses. She seems so “cocky“ in the episode where they pretended to be back together for Penney‘s father‘s sake. And she actually even mentions that she whistled, and he came running. I would have loved to have seen an episode where she says she wanted to get back with him and he replies something to the effect of. “ I’ve been chasing after you for years, and I’m just tired.“ Leonard had his run of several women during the course of the show. There was Leslie, Stephanie, Priya, Joyce Kim, not to mention the rich lady who gave him the money for the laser. I would have just liked to have seen Penny “humbled“ at least once. I actually wanted to see him with Alex, Sheldon’s assistant. She really liked him.
Amy's apartment would likely be leased to another but I don't think it would have a significance to the show whether we knew what happened to it. Raj's love life was also put on hold because I think they were planning on making another show just for him like Joey in Friends but I haven't heard any updates of it
I always thought they should have given Stuart his own off shoot series; he and his new-found girlfriend running the comic book store, I think it could be funny.
Chuck is too cheap to pay then what those roles would demand. With Young Sheldon he can hire unknowns and pay them less. Gene Roddenberry was a legendary cheapskate, he would cut or rewrite scenes solely to save money. Now, Lucille Ball was a true genius, she bought the entire RKO studios, props and footage and turned it into a money maker. Star Trek would not have existed if it were not for her. The list of Desilu shows is long and many were shot on film and are thus HD ready, or even UHD ready.
@@toriless Desi was the real brain, although Lucy is notably responsible for Star Trek getting on and staying on as long as it did, Desi would spend BIG Money, all that he was allowed, in making the pilots, (pilots were normally made then everything tossed out ) he could justify the shows' budget by the cost of the pilot, but then save all the props and scenery from the pilot for series' use, then only use the budgetary money as needed for each show, by the end of the season he had money to spare where others would be looking to cut corners, that's why so many shows had one or two room episodes late in their seasons to minimize costs.
Being my fourth favorite Chastain in the show, with Wallowitz my guess is the alien pins represent how many individuals in that episode had their dialogue done post recording like ADR or similarly did their scenes away from the core/ primary sound stage. Our is referring to command pins similar to Star Trek The Next generation uniforms.
Howard's refusal to read that letter was a missed opportunity for the audience and for Howard. That could have been a revelation. It could have changed his opinion of his father. Some of the six stories suggested that Howard would have been wise to read his letter. He should have given his dad a chance, but he chose to keep his hate and resentment.
Dude, his father was an ass who never came back to his son. The resentment is justified. LOL. Just because you ejeculated into a women doesn't mean you're a good father.
@@TheRiordane Yes, but it's puzzling that Howard doesn't want to know why his father left, nor what he's done since - especially when Josh turns up unexpectedly.
I have a sister who is 3 years older than me. She got to know our father and lived with him. I found out my father died when I stumbled across my grandfather's obituary where it said predeceased by his son Wayne my father. The only words he ever spoke to me were hello Joshua put your mother on the phone. So I hung up. I can understand how Howard felt.
I don't know why Young Sheldon would give us hint about the outcome of Mary and Alfred's relationship. It's set in the past, long before the events of TBBT.
I imagine Howard calculated the days between his birth and when his father left then on the same number of days, plus one, has a celebration about how he lasted longer than his father.
I was okay with penny being pregnant. I get that it would be nice to see someone not have kids who doesn’t want kids, but I felt like it brought us back to penny’s inability to say “I love you”. She couldn’t say it or possibly even feel it as it seemed, but she was able to in the end. Her not wanting children seemed to be similar, like it scared her but like with “I love you” it seemed to be a “just not ready, and I’m scared” situation.
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Can you do the same list for friends please?
I just rewatched tbbt
@@Showtunediva❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
what is penny's last name?
@@pinnochiho.1 I like to think Raj eventually found his true love, he came so far on his journey so it makes sense he was still single by the end of TBBT but I'd like to think he continued to develop and eventually settled down.
I like to think that Stuart created a comic book that became a big hit and was eventually adapted into a TV series. It later turns out that it’s an over exaggerated adaptation of his friends.
and that how Bigbang theory was made
What a great idea !
What is strange about Stuart is that he starts off as a talented artist who perfectly draws Penny and he is quite confident and actually gets a date with Penny. But then he becomes a self-deprecating guy who ends up practically homeless
Like so many sitcoms over the years, the writers took one minor aspect of his character and decided to just make that their whole persona, because it's just easy to write jokes for that.
He made Leonard look bad hence the change in writing. It's a miracle Penny and Leonard's marriage last.
Jake Harper went from a cute, clever and engaging nephew to Charlie Harper to a lazy, stupid and self- degenerative nincompop on TAHM. Both shows were Chuck Lorre sitcoms. Both Stuart and Jake's characters were reduced to saps.
@@azure52You got it right
well one can argue that the "incident" with Penny actually broke him
I always hated how Stephanie just disappeared in the show. Of course I wanted Leonard to end up with Penny, but she was my favorite of his exes
Your comment had me wondering, so I just rewatched all 3 episodes with Stephanie, and this was at least the 3rd time around that I have watched these episodes over the span of about 13 years. It never dawned on me that she just vanished after that 3rd episode, and we never officially saw the breakup. I figured out the reason for my forgetting what happened to her. The very next episode was one of my favorite episodes of all time on the show. The Bath Item Gift Hypothesis.
I really liked Stephanie too!
It was just bad writing. The same as when Priya Koothrappali was written off the show and then the guys needed a lawyer for the Guidance System that the government took from them.
In season 2 episode 18, Penny receives a shipment when she orders the flowers for her hair clips (Penny Blossoms). On the box you see her last name: Teller. Apparently it was said that the writers are big fans of Penn & Teller & as an ode to the comedic magician duo, since her first name already has "Penn" in it, her last name naturally would be Teller. Later on Teller ends up playing Amy's dad who seldom speaks! 😂
It's strange to not hear her surname even on her wedding day.
Mind blown!
went and looked bam mind blown
The producers and writers say that her last name is not Teller and that the props dept just put a label on the box - they were told it would not be visible in the shot.
I bet they have been begging him for years, I would if playing opposite Kathy Bates was used to tempt him further??
I will never forgive the show for not giving raj the romantic comedy romance he's been wanting. Even stuart who isn't even apart of the original gang ended up with someone, but not raj. I hope they do a 10 episode special (cough HBO cough paramount plus cough) showing raj having his dream meet cute and wedding
yess and raj would've had the best wedding out of all the couples because he loves organising them i think it would've looked amazing. i would love to see his wedding sm it would make me so happy. also they could've easily made an entire episode on it
With Buffy 😂
Raj and Howard forever!
Even Bernadette knew it.
Agreed!!
Raj deserved a much better ending.
Maybe he hit it off with Sarah Michelle Geller (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) after all
It’s like Joey from Friends.
@@OJK9That's my head cannon! He ended up with Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Sarah and Rahj forever!
Raj deserved Missy
@@ColeAndPhoebeForeverits Raj. Not Rahj
That slap was definitely more for Leonard than it was to bring back Sheldon from the disbelief spiral 🤣🤣
He did earn the right to slap him.
@@TheMrCC21 He put him through a lot and some of the stuff he did to him were honestly diabolical, and he calls him his best friend!
And I bet it would have been super satisfying
Just for that red sweater alone.
Also, it was an ongoing side gig, where one of the guys had to get to slap him, and I believe that moment was perfect. It was like the other guys' Nobel Prize. They couldn't end the show without it.
If there were two things that disappointed me about the show it's that Penny got pregnant in the final episode after being very clear that she didn't want kids, which was clearly a fan service thing (not sure if fans were actually happy with that, because I wasn't) and that Raj never got the happy ending he always wanted.
Can I recommend something to you if this show disappointed you the way it disappointed me? I know you’ll love it.
She reminds me of me. I was scared to death to be a parent. But really glad when I became pregnant.
@@JFH-te4lu Can I recommend something to you that I think you’ll like?
I'm glad she was pregnant. For everything Leonard has done for her this was the best gift she could give him. They will be great parents. Obviously role reversals as penny will be the cool parent and Leonard the grounded parent trying to be cool lol
Actually it wasn't that clear. She said she did eventually but wasn't in a hurry.
Penny has a way of *grounding the guys. Keeping things real and down-to-earth.*
The original title was quite different and had her name in it.
Even if she's sometimes a freeloader, she's got her virtues apart from pretty privilege
To the question of the kind of dad Sheldon will make, I just want to say that one of the stand-out highlights of Young Sheldon for me has been watching just how deeply George Sr. really cares for each child, including Sheldon. I think Sheldon actually has a great role model in his dad.
George Sr. is actually my favourite character in that show...
His dad does die unlike Howard's dad who just left them. No reason he needs to be a bad father for the show to be realistic.
The Dad in Young Sheldon is NOTHING like the dad the BBT Sheldon talked about. The drinking and marital fighting is nowhere to be seen in YS.
The fact he had children is illogical. I couldn't mentally deal with that since I'm so often referred by his name since I'm much like him in person.
And I want grown Sheldon to finally come to realize his father wasn’t cheating on his mother. George deserves better.
I actually never realized he and Stephanie never had an on screen breakup until you guys pointed it out lol the last thing we heard was he was going to sleep with her again
I just saw that episode today a few hours ago 😂 it's weird
9:18 I think we can all agree Leonard had been holding that slap for Sheldon in for 12 seasons😂😂😂
I think that slap was specified in the roommate agreement.
Well deserved
I wish they had mixed Amy's, Penny's and the guys furniture, after they had moved around.
It would have been so cool to see new apartment designs
The whole idea that Sheldon and Penny swapped apartments was ridiculous. Amy should have moved in with Sheldon and Leonard should have moved across the hall to live with Penny in her place.
@@bagcpaExactly
I really wish they had Leonard's experiment prove Sheldon's and Amy's theory. It would have have been a good balance to Leonard disproving an early theory by Sheldon. They could have shared the Nobel Prize and Sheldon could have finally showed appreciation for Leonard as a scientist.
exactly thisss!! or maybe something that raj , howard , sheldon and leanoard came with together .
I like the whole Penny not being sure about kids, going back and forth with the decision and being happy in the end when it happened (it's kinda obvious it wasn't planned, like how many references to her checking pregnancy test in panic were there lol). She was young, focused on her looks, scared of commitment, let alone being a parent. She matured over those 12 years, started feeling better about herself, more secure in the relationship, more confident in her job.
She only said that maybe she didn't want to have kids at all when someone pushed her - first Bernadette and Amy, then Leonard, show me something that screams defense more than that.
she does not go back and forth , she clearly does not want to . And no it was just for fan service or the society , cause how can a women not want kidss , right ??
I love this show but it also frustrates me to no end. Here are some of the reasons why:
1)Why did they regress Howard and Sheldon's relationship in the later seasons. After semi-making up, yhey had a fun dynamic and also quite a bit in common: fathers left/died when they were young, single mama and the troubles that has(seeing them move on with other ppl) , both consider themselves the alphas of their duos, etc
2) Why did it feel, in general, that they regressed the gang's friendship in the later seasons. To me, towards the end they barely felt like friends, like they cared for each other. They were hostile to each other in not a very funny way.
3) Sheldon should've cared more when he found out Penny was pregnant, regardless of what was going on in his life. They had a sibling like relationship,closer than his actual siblings, so he really should've cared more. Jokes could even have been made about how elated he was and how absurd that was for him.
4) Raj was done dirty. Left in limbo. Everyone developed, he didn't. He definitely deserved more, especially in the relationship sector, seeing as how much he'd always wanted to find true love.
5) Leonard and his mom's relationship always returned to square one each time she visited, no matter how much she'd change during each visit.
6) Pennh and Leonard seemed to be quite a missmatched couple by the end of the show. I feel a better direction to have taken them in was each discovering that they liked the idea of being together but it just wouldn't work out for them. Leonard realises he's chased Penny for years but being together isn't really working. Penny discovers she's with Leonard out of some feeling of pity or sth. They each then find a different better love interest and learn to be OK with it.
Just a few thoughts 😅
I thought it was sweet finding out how well loved Carol Ann Susi was on the Big Bang set. They talked about how after she died it took them time to process it and how to explain it in the show. I personally thought it was very touching how they worked it in. By having her pass peacefully while away avoided a lot of potentially uncomfortable story ideas. Instead the phone call let us feel the effect without dealing with her personally. Howard's own reaction was gut wrenching for how real it felt. When he says he's never going to be able to talk to her again or how upset he was at himself for not driving her to the airport, the last time he would have seen her. Even Sheldon got some wonderful moments, like saying how when his own father died he didn't have any friends to support him but Howard does. Or that clip where he says her yelling was annoying but he's going to miss it. I'm tearing up a little just thinking about it.
You briefly see part of her when she in pulling Stuart back in the window. Youy can tell it is Carol Ann Susi if you look at a picture of her first. The scene in the kitchen you only see the dark hair but it could have been her.
There’s also a glimpse of her in the episode of Howard & Bernadette’s wedding on the roof. I believe she’s off to the side when they’re zooming out for the Google satellite pic
The alien pin on Howard's turtle neck is probably a reference to Star Trek. The characters from that show have little studs on their collar that probably indicate rank.
& one thing that usually doesn’t get pointed out is that Bernadette's character changes early on. She's suddenly more confident & brash than first depicted.
I was thinking it's because aliens are so often featured in science-fiction media.
The studs DO signify rank. 1 being ensign, the highest: 4, signifying captain.
I never noticed it lol 😆
the bernadette thing actually really bothered me, her character in her first few episodes was completely different
Amy changed too, she was a Sheldon clone but slowly became more human and than eventually made him more so. It is clear that Sheldon is suppose to be autistic but the writers do not want to stigmatize the condition by ever declaring so, he is cartoon version unlike Shaun on The Good Doctor who acts like a human that is a savant with autism too.
Penny might be Penelope. That was what she named her video game character. Also I was curious to know what happened between Dr Gablehauser and Sheldon's mum!!
Penny is short for Penelope. That's probably her full first name.
nothing long-term happened between Gablehauser and Mary. It was never referred to again after that ep. Mary remained single living in Texas. Sheldon visited her a few times in subsequent episodes.
Penny was a mean girl
Raj not having a partner and a daughter he can spoil. He was so excited when Halle came along.
At least he had Cinnamon to spoil
He would finally have someone to watch movies with.
Never understood why they chose to get Penny pregnant in those last episodes. She made it clear many times that she didn't want to have kids. She was okay with caring and loving her friends' kids, but she didn't want any of her own.
It didn't even feel like she wanted to be a mother in those last episodes because she was so doubtful and scared about it. It felt more like she just accepted her fate rather than wanting to be a mother.
I always felt like Penny getting pregnant was more to get Leonard a happy ending than for her.
Possibly
Exactly. They did the same with Bernadette. She made it VERY clear that she hated kids and as Howard said himself- the feeling was mutual. And then she has two. It works for Sheldon and Amy because she wanted kids and she wanted to be a respected scientist AND a mother. Which was good to show people who feel pressured into one that they can be both. But making two successful women who are happy in their relationships and really don't want kids... Have kids... 🥴 it never sat right with me.
Penny makes a point to tell Sheldon that it's ok to accept change. That's why she sleeps with Leonard that night with no condom. She isn't afraid of the inevitability of change.
@@haywoodjoel Lol if this is true, the debate is over. Having s without a condom on purpose? Case closed. People on here acting like it's not possible for a human to change their mind.
@@kva5751 people assume that decision requires a massive shift in ideology. Those people don't have kids. Sometimes people go from no to... Why not, if it happens?
Stuart & Denise are the most suited couple in TBBT.
Facts. Can I recommend something to you that I think you’ll LOVE?
You stupid pop tart continues to be the sweetest line
@crimsonblack9774 it funny thing she ever said to me
Bar is not very high tbh :D
@@erurainon6842 Facts. Leonard and Penny had much more potential to look and be written as a much better couple than what we got. Can I recommend something to you in which Leonard and Penny have a much bette relationship than what the show gave, which was a very crappy and toxic portrayal of relationships/marriages, than had many stupid written moments?
This is one of the times I really felt for Howard. My dad ignored me most of my life and then, suddenly, started giving me attention. After a few days of being a loving father, he walked out of my life. So Howard's story about how his father abandoned him and left only a note really gets to me.
You are not alone which is probably why they wrote it in. I suspect someone on the show knows someone or is someone like that. Raj's selective muteness is based upon someone Bill Prady knows.
Reminds me of that episode in The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. It's a similar thing.
@@sunshine1110 I haven’t seen Fresh Prince, so I wouldn’t know.
@@toriless Or maybe it’s something the writer themselves actually went through. Who knows?
Penny doesn't go back & forth on whether or not she wants kids; she clearly doesn't. She's vocal about that, which Leonard, Bernadette & Amy respond to by biting her head off. She's bizarrely pleased when she discovers she's pregnant.
That’s because this show was GARBAGE in the last four seasons. The writing was trash, the acting was TERRIBLE, and overall…it just wasn’t pleasing to watch. The camera quality was the one thing that disappointed me a lot; it wasn’t like it used to be. Can I recommend something to you if you were disappointed the same way I was? I know you’ll LOVE IT.
PS: you can’t really DEFEND, Penny. She stopped being a character to root for, and overall, became…unlikable; she became a TERRIBLE woman/person/wife (not completely unlike her actress in real life). She just…wasn’t the same likable character she once was and showed love and respect towards Leonard. Every time Penny was in camera, she gave off this…bad vibe. Her smile (more like an infuriating smug, she hat made me want to punch her) and her presence always made the scenes seem…dark and negative. Every time she delivered a line, it was bound to be mean, bitchy, and definitely NOT funny. 🤦♂️.
There was an episode where she said she wanted kids. But wasn't in a hurry. Which seems odd. Cause by the end of the show she was in. Her early 30'#.
The writers seem to never let couples be happy without kids. This is a problem for most TV shows. The baby's name is Cousin Oliver.
@@josefk7437 can I recommend something to you, that I think you’ll like?
@@albertelnen9144 She says that - in a clearly half-hearted way - to avoid an argument.
Stuart & Denise should have their own show
Raj doesn't have much character development. He has many clear & easily fixable faults which he & his friends are well are of. I expected him to improve & end up in a happy LTR. I don't know why the writers didn't bother with that, leaving him unhappily single.
He was going to London to be with that girl. Howard stopped him. For the life of me I don't know why. Howard had his family.
His lack of character development could have been his reason for staying unhappily single.
@@albertelnen9144In that scene Howard tells Raj to go, but only if he truly loved her and couldn't be without her. He didn't want his friend to settle for a wife just because he was still single. I think that is the point, Raj isn't unhappily single in the end, he learns not to settle when it comes to love, and for a guy who started the series too nervous to talk to women unless drunk that is character development.
@@albertelnen9144 Because Raj & Anu were clearly unsuited & had both decided to rush into marriage because they wanted to be like their friends & please their families.
@@josefk7437 It is, but why didn't the writers improve him?
That slap after teh nobel phone is amazing...
I dread to find out what will happen to Paige on Young Sheldon to explain why adult Paige was never mentioned on Big Bang Theory.
She probably moved away from Texas and didn't have contact with the Coopers.
i feel like they cant make it like a scandal or a giant thing, otherwise sheldon would probably mention it, but if its too small it wouldnt make sense for such a friendship to just disappear, i feel like they need to be really careful what they write in
Maybe she died before becoming an adult which could be the reason why adult Sheldon never mentioned her. It hurts to remember a deceased friend.
I think they sort of answer it, with Paige rejecting her brilliance after her parent's divorce. That could reinforce Sheldon's avoidance of relationships? She was the only one who could run circles around him.
@@mikep490 Good point... KDM
I think penny and Leonard treat their child same way they like to treat sheldon😂
Yeah, Sheldon was often treated like either a child or a pet dog.
As they say, he is their practice child xD
I remember that there was an update regarding Sheldon's parenting in the latest young sheldon season. The episode showed her twin sister's rebellious phase, which sheldon narrated that his son is currently in that phase as well or somethin. I'm not sure if I remember it correctly though.
They cut before Sheldon's line
Leonard: I never slept with her, I swear.
Sheldon: It wasn't for lack of trying.
That is good line
"In Leonard's defense it wasn't for a lack of trying." Sheldon never omits clarification. It would be an insult to science, and that's more important than insulting people in his world. Goes far to explaining why he's so alone, even around people he's alone.
As someone getting my PhD, I’m not any smarter than someone with a masters, I just have more experience in the academic Environment. I have not take taken any more classes than a master student in the same field of science, there’s no additional classroom learning, it’s just more time and responsibilities while being mentored in academia (5-7 years for a PhD vs 1-2 for a masters). Then the masters goes to have a career and gets experience that way, while the PhD gets continues to get experience at the university.
Nearing the end of earning my Masters, I had three different professors offering to write letters of recommendation, if I wanted to pursue my PhD. But I had one pull me aside and say, "Don't get your PhD unless you intend on teaching as a carrier. It will limit your employability." I took his advice and make a nice living. As I approach potential retirement, I have been approached by one of the local universities. It seems that they are having problems finding someone to teach differential and integral calculus. They are dangling an Associate Professorship. My thoughts are (1) that would be a nice, low stress, part time job, and (2) I hated my calculus professor, do I want to become my own worst enemy?
@@davidsandy5917maybe you could be a better teacher than your own teacher and make your students fall in love with math. I had great math students in college and they changed my perception of math
I concur with this statement, I have a BA Hons degree, and was going to study for my MA but couldn't get funding. I do not consider someone with an MA or PhD any more intelligent than myself and the subject matter is irrelevant. Intelligence can only be partially measured by educational attainment, there's other forms of intelligence like common sense, spatial, physical etc. Also IQ level.
That's why Sheldon mildly annoys me the way he digs at Howard for having a Masters not a PhD, because it's just the amount of time spent in the education system that's different, not the intellectual ability.
Sheldon becomes a train conductor after the Nobel Prize. Only outcome I am willing to accept
It is his second love on TBBT. I tried watching Young Sheldon but it was too loud, the real Sheldon would have gone nuts. So I have only seen the premiere episode.,
@@toriless you really should give Young Sheldon a chance. It is a terrific show. Great characters and interactions.
16:13. Correction. Dr. B. Hostedter was proud of exactly one of Leonard's accomplishments: marrying Penny. Beverly said that she was less impressed by Leonard's sibling's choices of spouses.
I honestly feel sorry for Sheldon's kids. Not because I think he would be unable to become a good father, but because throughout the show it subtly becomes clear on numerous occasions that it's important to him his children are smart and well-educated. If they're interested in sciences etc., I'm sure he's a great dad. But if there's an average kid among them, I'm sure the relationship will be awful because he would have much too high expectations.
I disagree about any average kids. First, he has Amy to help guide him, and reminding him that he has a couple siblings who are not extraordinary. He will be with the child(ren) every single day from the beginning. They will all have changes based on each other, subtly, slowly over time. Sheldon proved his willingness to slowly adapt to new things. And, the children will have aunt Penny. The entire series demonstrated her patience and her heart, with the unique ability to accept anyone without judgment preventing her from giving them a chance. It helped them all grow and become capable of integrating all their worlds. So, I believe Sheldon and Amy's kid(s) will be ok.
In the young sheldon show (narrated by Sheldon) he mentions having to take his son Leonard to the skate park (despite hating parks) So I assume, he becomes the sort of father to accept and love his kids even if their interests aren't to his taste
Probably tell them they are so dumb they will end up being an engineer.
Disagree. I think Sheldon had a lot of good character development due to his friends and Amy, they taught him how to be a better nicer person. So I don't think he would be too hard on his kids if they turned out average.
Maybe, because I share some of Sheldon's characteristics, I think Sheldon would make for a great Dad. He had his father as a role model and whether or not he would have admitted it, that influence would be passed down to the next generation. The only thing that I would complain about is, "Why my middle name couldn't have been Nimoy?" 😊
Sheldon will become the father that he wanted be and the one that his children needed. Howard and Raj will help him. Their children will trap them in a house using video games as a lure on a regular basis for a break from their parents. Penny will be become the Grand Dame that she was meant to become like Olenna Tyrell from GOT. Beverly will shock herself and become the pushover grandmother that lets Leonard and Penny’s kids get away with anything. Leonard’s father and Sheldon’s mother will be friends and they will fake a romantic relationship to torture Beverly and their respective sons.
I know what the pins on Howard’s collar are…Star Trek officers have those on their collars which indicate rank (they are called pips). Howard is doing it to let any possible aliens know that he is a friend.
When zoomed in at the noble prize crowd, isn't that Sarah Michelle Gellar next to Raj?
Next to her is Steven Spielberg correct?
Pause at 09:44 to see them
Penny's last name was Teller
It was see on label when Sheldon drops off a package that he signed for her
Penn and Teller! LOL
#1 is Howard’s father, and it is not particularly close.
Unlike most of these entries, Howard’s father abandoning his son was a major plot point that was spotlighted in multiple episodes, including arguably the best episode of the series.
Yeah, the answer to many questions is obviously NO
One of my favorite moments in the series is when Sheldon referred to Howard as Astronaut Howard Wolowitz.
When Howard's half-brother Josh visits, Howard still has no interest in finding out what's happened to their father. Howard doesn't want to know why he left, where he is, if he left Josh & his mother as well etc. Josh is only in one ep & is never mentioned again. Howard later says he has no siblings, despite knowing that to be untrue.
I didn’t like the way they initially spoke of Josh, like when Raj was getting ready to make him leave. It’s not Josh’s fault Howard’s father abandoned him. He should have been included more. There were a lot of rocks left unturned when the show ended, which was annoying.
@@StealthMode3924 You can't force people to have contact. I know someone who was abandoned by mother and father when very young. Sometimes his half siblings reach out, then there are one or two E-Mails and it dies down again. They didn't grow up together and have no common history. After the "accident" of the same parent, they simply had nothing in common.
@@i.b.640 then he could have said “I’m
Sorry, I’m not ready for this right now.” Nobody forced them to invite him in, they did, and Raj was rude to him from the get go, and when going to tell him to leave, he wasn’t exactly polite about that either. I’m saying the show should have brought him back because he and Howard eventually realized they had a bit in common and ended on a good note, and he seemed like an interesting character. Again, it’s not Josh’s fault Howard’s father left, he was born after. The only one to blame for leaving is Howard’s father.
I’m not getting angry, I’m just trying to make a point and state my opinion on what the show should have done.
@@StealthMode3924 I didn't get angry vibes at all, don't worry, just a well illustrated point. My point was, that even if you have something in common, if you didn't grow up together it can just peter out naturally, without any residual anger left. It happend with the most people I know who met their half siblings way later. I agree, that your version would have been more satisfying and more complete writing, and chances are, the authors just forgot about him. In my experience, meeting once, having wild emotions, ending on a nice note and then never meet again is relativly realistic.
Raj becomes more curious as a character. Understated culturally searching for his soulmate. Raj will go to extremes to hide his shyness but goes overboard to display the opposite.
With number 12, I have to believe that Nobel prize night is the night Sheldon and Amy conceived their son
Sheldon would DEFINITELY do that
Yes you stupid pop tart continues to be the sweetest and funniest line if you ask me
That's how *I* want someone to reference ME when I ask them " then what would make you happy ? " ♑️✍️🇸🇯🇦🇺
I have not idea what it means though.
I really hope they have a reunion show 10 years down the road!! That would be amazing!!
yes but, like the characters came back not the acters like friends so we can see what the characters lives are like 10 years later!
Wasn't there an episode where they all agree to meet in front of the building ten years from now ? I think Stewart was the only one that showed up.
I'd like to see a Raj spinoff, featuring his attempts to end u married.
Kinda reminds me to Joey Friends situation, leaving his story quite open for spinoff
Just leaving Raj like that without spin off is not nice
Quite frankly, the Raj character is not strong enough and could not support a show about him.
Penny received a package for Penny Teller in one episode, but the writers insist this isn't her last name.
It isn't. If you watch the actual episode there is absolutely no point in the show where a clear shot of the package label is ever clearly shown on screen. The supposed screen shot from that episode is photoshopped, a fake label that was mocked up to make it appear like it came from that episode.
Actually, in the mommy observation, they agreed to meet 20 years later and Stuart shows up looking affluently dressed like he's a big success.
Good point! And I think that his store ran very well after the episode in which Neil Gaiman tweets about it, so maybe he later opened more stores and got really big.
@@KwatschkramTV Man, Neil has sure aged from when I saw him. It was probably the weirdest encounter I have had, 3 people showed up. I was unprepared for a 1 on 1 as such. I only brought 1 Sandman for him so sign expecting a crowd. So I asked him "what if I brought the entire series, what would you do?" Can you guess his answer ...
You really didn't expect anything else, did you?
I cannot believe one of the biggest mysteries in the whole show is at 20, that should have been top 5 imo
They essentially wrote it again at #2, and it was still too low.
One of my favourite sitcoms ❤️. You know, I've never spotted the pins on Howard's turtle neck shirts .... 🤔. Now I'm going to see them whenever I see Howard 😁.
First time seeing a big bang theory video in my suggestions! I am rewatching the series rn. I'm on season 3.
I have I Love Lucy, Seinfeld and TBBT on my DVR. I will watch each until I remember the entire episode and stop, I am close on Seinfeld, I finished Enterprise and am getting close on the original Star Trek.
I wish that they'd let Penny be content with not having children, especially since not all women are maternal, or see kids in their future. Instead, it seems like a cop out when the finale reveals her to be pregnant anyway. Same goes for Bernadette, who was also vocal about staying Child free, yet ended up having two back to back.
100% As a child free person, this made me so angry.
Glad I'm not the only one who felt that way. I know it was wish-fulfillment for a lot of fans, but I feel like the writers really rushed that storyline. Penny goes from not wanting to have kids to suddenly being ok with it. As a child free woman I was really disappointed. It was cool to see a character child-free be confident with that choice and then they did a complete 180 on it.
Well, it's also okay to change your mind.
With Bernardeette she was really having one In real life look it up why she was pregnant a long time n they didn't want drop her from the show until she had it so they put her the same in the show n sometimes ppl changes their mind some of my family members did
@@sarahvenable4710 She suddenly changes her mind after discovering she's pregnant.
Referring to Stuart's artistic talent, which we can observe both at the beginning of the series (he sketched in the store) and at the end (he did the illustrations for the story of the besieged astronaut), I was sure that at the end of the TBBT series there might be a plot in which Stuart created a comic book about his friends, and a popular TV station wants to make a series out of it, also paying him big money for his work on the set. And that the final episode will include a casting call for a future Nobel Prize winner, when Stuar says CUT!
I always thought the alien pin was a reference to Howards fathers absence. Him being alien.. in and episode Howard asks Alf to bring his father back, so the alien thing seems to be Howards way of always having a piece of his father with him
I think the Pin thing for Howard on the turtleneck is an ode to Star Trek Next Gen, where in that show the characters wore their ranks on their collar of the uniforms
Leonard has been waiting for that slap for YEARS.
12 to 15
I cried so much watching the last 2 episodes. This show is my life!!!!
So did your life end five years ago?
@@bagcpa every day. 😉
Well, we do know that Leonard and Penny's children are smart and beautiful.
It should have been a better written story arc that took up a lot of screen time and spanned seasons. Instead, it lasted in the background of the final season and was just an ex machina acting as fan service.
I wish that were to be true, but reality is sometimes parental plans don't work out.
@@clapepez True, it's not all genetic. If you don't eat a healthy diet and exercise you probably won't be beautiful. And if you don't work hard in school applying yourself and studying hard, you probably won't be smart. It can take work to develop those traits.
and imaginary. ;)
This series desperately needs a reunion limited series (at least) where we see Raj get his romantic love story, and how everyone else is doing! But we all need to see Raj find true love.
Vera from Cheers wasn’t the first TV character we never got to see. That honour went to Carleton the doorman from the series Rhoda.
One of the fun things about this show is that the characters actually do grow as people, which is hard to do find in long running comedies. Even side characters are allowed some growth, and it makes them all feel more real
Ha! Good one. No one grows and that’s one of the things that made me dislike the show. The last four seasons are GARBAGE. They RUINED the show. Leonard and Penny were my fav characters/relationship, and they were RUINED. I hated how the writers portrayed them seasons nine to twelve. Can I recommend something to you that I think you’ll like?
@@No_ConferenceThey didn't ruin L and P. They just sidelined them for Sheldon and Amy in S9, 10, 11. They have a lot more screentime in S12 in the Halloween episode, the 2 episodes where Zack wants Leonard to be his baby's father, Penny initially not wanting the baby but getting jealous because Leonard agreed to be father to Zack's baby. She rented Leonard a Batmobile😂. Lots of developments on that front in the last season.
@@dvornikovalexei NO, that’s all lazy. The show should’ve ended MUCH sooner. They DID ruin them. Penny doesn’t love Leonard throughout those last four seasons; she treats Leonard like shit, and became the slut she was in “The Bath Item Gift Hypothesis”, by pretending to like something she doesn’t like (D&D’s) to hang out with a married man.
I wish Sofia Vergada had been there to beat the shit out of Penny for what she did to Leonard (you know, back when her and Joe were still together). The finale was also GARBAGE.
Can I recommend something to you that fixes the problems the show had regarding them, and also makes both of them better for each other as well as better themselves as people? In it, Leonard does something that makes a genuine impact on Penny’s life that makes her love him more.
@@No_Conference I'm not reading all that. I'd rather rewatch the show again. Would take less time.
@@dvornikovalexei I never said you had to read my comment, just to look up the recommendation. It fixes the problems their relationship had. It also omits stupid writing that ruined the show like the stupid season eight finale, with Leonard’s confession.
For people saying Penny didn’t want kids, it’s just lazy writing honestly, throughout the series before the introduction of “Penny doesn’t want kids” she said she wanted kids, thought what kind of mom she would be...The “Penny doesn’t want kids” “storyline” was introduced for drama, it wasn’t something thought out and stated compared to like Robin from HIMYM
Forcing Penny to have kids was the lazy writing. It would have been more original for her to remain childfree and happy. Having Leonard accept this would have been better writing. Most TV shows force couples who do not want children to have them.
I liked that sheldon not automatically assumed she has to be happy about being pregnant because there are women who are not.
Yeah, the pregnancy arc was so unfair to Penny as everyone talks about how 'great' Leonard was to her (despite him cheating, insulting her intelligence, only wanting to sleep with her etc) but that's not a reason to have a kid with someone if you don't want to and it sucks that Penny was judged and criticised for it (as even Leonard got angry and threw her under the bus and told her Dad and left her to deal with it and initially left her when she got him a literal batmobile and his favourite dinner and of course, Sheldon was so insulting and inconsiderate when she did get pregnant and Leonard just spoke for Penny rather than asking how she felt about it). The way the show disregards what Penny wanted over (not wanting kids, giving up acting and being unhappy in her sales job) to make sure it's a happy ending for the men is so gross.
Penny never honestly says she wants kids. She says many times that she doesn't.
Yeah, I always kinda thought that she maybe assumed they'd have kids at some point but then when she thought about it a bit more, she realised that it wasn't what she actually wanted.
Her: if you haven’t watched the show in it’s entirety-
Me: I have spent SO MUCH time watching this over and over again I think I’m fine
I always thought Sheldon and Penny were a better match (as in opposites attract and are compliments for each other), and I thought Leonard and Amy were a much better couple also. Love is strange sometimes that way.
Maybe watch the show again
Considering Sheldon's fascination with Beverly's parenting theories, Amy has her hands full keeping him in check and back towards decency, despite her upbringing.
I worry for their kids.
I can't believe how asleep I was mentally when I realized that there are people with letters from parents that left them but have not yet opened up those letters because they want to but can't open the letters for fear of the letter's truth(s) and that's why Howard still kept his dad's letter.
With how many jokes they made alluding to Raj's sexuality throughout the show, I kinda wish that they actually made him gay (or bi) and all those jokes were just little stepping stones to him finally accepting it. It would have been a cute little story arc with him maybe finding another gay guy that has a lot in common with him (maybe a new hire at the university or they meet at the comic book store) that at first they become friends who hang out (purely platonically, though the gang will poke fun at him playfully of course) until one day he actually realizes he likes the other guy, and then there could be a sub-plot of him needing to tell his parents about it, and it could have just been a really cool story with the penultimate outcome being one (or both) of his parents finally accepting him. They could even throw in a funny bit where Priya gave them an ultimatum or something because I feel like Priya would be very supportive of him lol
Imagine if Sheldon kid becomes a Missy or Georgie
There's always a chance of that. Many people are more like one of their aunts, uncles, grandparents etc. than they are their parents.
@@davidz3879 but I want to see his reaction
That Stefani part is so true. I wondered where she had gone....
Howard doesn't wear turtlenecks. He wears dickies.
Penny's maiden name? Hennessy...Believe it or not. In the early part of the show, Executive Producer Chuck Lorre came into her dressing room and found her (Kaley Cuoco) crying. She was in remembrance of her former TV dad , the late John Ritter. she said she owed him so much for getting her career to this point. After cheering her up and making her realize that he would've wanted her to continue on with her career, she finally worked up the courage to go out there and shoot the episode. Finally, when the question of Penny's maiden name came up, Chuck Lorre found himself remembering how sad she was in Remembering him (John Ritter). He began researching all past roles that he played to adapt them as Penny's maiden name. Finally he came across the name of the show she was on before TBBT. But instead of telling her and risking making her sad all over again, Mr. Lorre decided to keep it to himself. But given that Penny's mom is played by Katy Segal (As it was before in 8 simple rules), that was Mr. Lorre's way of giving us a clue as to what her maiden name was. Penny's maiden name is Hennessy, now married to Dr. Leonard Hofstader, one could say her name is Mrs. Penny Hofstader or Mrs. Penny Hennessy-Hofstader. Hey, it could've been worse. Penny Hooperman, Penny Tripper, Penny Hutton, Penny Healy, or Penny Cunningham.
Penny seems to be that relative we all have who just accepted their life course as it was, and that's it 🤷♀️
❤️ Big Bang Theory.
I think it would be interesting if Leonard’s mom became an affectionate grandmother
I heard that Kunal actually chose to keep Raj single because it just fit with his character
None of these are cannon, but I found four theories for Penny's last name. One was, as has already been pointed out in the comments, Teller as it was on the shipping box in season 2, because of Penn and Teller. It was apparently just a place filler though, and the show runners didn't think anyone would actually be able to see what was written. Then there's Barrington, as Chuck Lorre suggested it once. Others say it's Wyatt, because she talks about her father as Bob in earlier seasons, and people (especially Americans in TV shows) are sometimes referred to by their last name as a nickname, even sometimes by partners, and this would make the Bob thing less of a plot hole. Lastly, there's Cali Cuoco's own favourite, which is that her name was actually Penny Penny (remember, it's implied her full first name is pennelope so it would sound less ridiculous if it was actually Pennelope Penny) and that gives Sheldon's knock an additional layer of meaning, like maybe he knew her last name, even if he does it with other characters for the reasons he reveals. I obviously like Barrington, because it's close to my last name (Berrington), and also if her full name is Pennelope Barrington it would make her sound like a princess. I must admit that Teller or Wyatt are probably better though, because we can find reasons to pretend they're cannon.
KALEY !!!!!!
He does it three times and by your theory Amy Farrah Fowler's real name would then be Amy Amelia Fowler since he has done it to her too. Her name is Kaley and Amy is portrayed by Mayim Bialik not Mari Beeuhleek.
My guess for Penny's future is, that she works at the company for a while, but one day someone hears her voice and gives her acting career another try and she goes on to be Harley Quinn.
21:04 I saw an article recently with a still shot of Penny receiving a package with the last name Teller.
Penny relationship with dad was better then lenerod relation with mom
Yeah, hardly equivalent, he was not purposely hurting her which is why he likes Leonard so much, he just wanted her to not waste her time with the losers he had seen her date. He wanted her to be with a person she deserved. Leonard's mom was acting like a sociopath and treating him like specimen not a human.
Always felt Leonard loved Penny more than she did and deserved someone who loved him equally.
fans know that Sheldon can’t lie. So it’s pretty easy to know which story is real.
Who says he can't lie. He's not a Vulcan. And even they lie if it suits their purpose.
Sheldon's story about Howard's father is a film plot, so we know that's not true.
That's not entirely true. If he can dictate every detail of the ruse he can stick to it pretty well, remember his "Cousin Leopald" (sp)?
Hmm, you do have a point. I will have to rewatch it now. It was also obvious which one were not real.
@@albertelnen9144 They lie a LOT, watch Enterprise, almost always lying
I always wanted to see an episode where Penny breaks up with her latest boyfriend & tried to reconcile with Leonard & he refuses. She seems so “cocky“ in the episode where they pretended to be back together for Penney‘s father‘s sake. And she actually even mentions that she whistled, and he came running. I would have loved to have seen an episode where she says she wanted to get back with him and he replies something to the effect of. “ I’ve been chasing after you for years, and I’m just tired.“ Leonard had his run of several women during the course of the show. There was Leslie, Stephanie, Priya, Joyce Kim, not to mention the rich lady who gave him the money for the laser. I would have just liked to have seen Penny “humbled“ at least once. I actually wanted to see him with Alex, Sheldon’s assistant. She really liked him.
Its my all time favorite show.....I want and yet also dont want a reboot/new season of the whole cast 5 -10 years down the track from the finale
Amy's apartment would likely be leased to another but I don't think it would have a significance to the show whether we knew what happened to it.
Raj's love life was also put on hold because I think they were planning on making another show just for him like Joey in Friends but I haven't heard any updates of it
People often just sell their furniture. Maybe she got a storage unit for the personal items. She obviously moved her clothing.
Leonard should've pursued relationships with Alice & Alex.
For Howard i think all the characters say a true different part of the letter of his dad except Sheldon
we need a sequel series. this could be a great trilogy especially if as much care was give to the sequel as the prequel.
There are some different things I would have put in there but I very much enjoyed your video.
I always thought they should have given Stuart his own off shoot series; he and his new-found girlfriend running the comic book store, I think it could be funny.
Chuck is too cheap to pay then what those roles would demand. With Young Sheldon he can hire unknowns and pay them less. Gene Roddenberry was a legendary cheapskate, he would cut or rewrite scenes solely to save money. Now, Lucille Ball was a true genius, she bought the entire RKO studios, props and footage and turned it into a money maker. Star Trek would not have existed if it were not for her. The list of Desilu shows is long and many were shot on film and are thus HD ready, or even UHD ready.
@@toriless Desi was the real brain, although Lucy is notably responsible for Star Trek getting on and staying on as long as it did,
Desi would spend BIG Money, all that he was allowed, in making the pilots, (pilots were normally made then everything tossed out ) he could justify the shows' budget by the cost of the pilot, but then save all the props and scenery from the pilot for series' use, then only use the budgetary money as needed for each show, by the end of the season he had money to spare where others would be looking to cut corners, that's why so many shows had one or two room episodes late in their seasons to minimize costs.
Being my fourth favorite Chastain in the show, with Wallowitz my guess is the alien pins represent how many individuals in that episode had their dialogue done post recording like ADR or similarly did their scenes away from the core/ primary sound stage. Our is referring to command pins similar to Star Trek The Next generation uniforms.
Id love a spin off worh Amy and Sheldon struggling to raise a kid who is popular and sporty of average intelligence, with no interest in science 😂
Ooohhh smart!
Poor Sheldon
Penny's maiden name was "Teller". It was spotted by a fan on a shipping label.
Howard's refusal to read that letter was a missed opportunity for the audience and for Howard. That could have been a revelation. It could have changed his opinion of his father. Some of the six stories suggested that Howard would have been wise to read his letter. He should have given his dad a chance, but he chose to keep his hate and resentment.
I mean, he couldn't read it anymore anyway since iirc, he burned the letter.
Dude, his father was an ass who never came back to his son. The resentment is justified. LOL. Just because you ejeculated into a women doesn't mean you're a good father.
@@TheRiordane Yes, but it's puzzling that Howard doesn't want to know why his father left, nor what he's done since - especially when Josh turns up unexpectedly.
@@dlmbs But Sheldon remembered exactly what it said...and told the others.
I have a sister who is 3 years older than me.
She got to know our father and lived with him.
I found out my father died when I stumbled across my grandfather's obituary where it said predeceased by his son Wayne my father.
The only words he ever spoke to me were hello Joshua put your mother on the phone. So I hung up.
I can understand how Howard felt.
I don't know why Young Sheldon would give us hint about the outcome of Mary and Alfred's relationship. It's set in the past, long before the events of TBBT.
Yes but the narrator is Sheldon after the events of the original show.
I imagine Howard calculated the days between his birth and when his father left then on the same number of days, plus one, has a celebration about how he lasted longer than his father.
I think Penny and Leonard are happy.
02:27 I got major Empire Records vibes from that staircase.
I was okay with penny being pregnant. I get that it would be nice to see someone not have kids who doesn’t want kids, but I felt like it brought us back to penny’s inability to say “I love you”. She couldn’t say it or possibly even feel it as it seemed, but she was able to in the end. Her not wanting children seemed to be similar, like it scared her but like with “I love you” it seemed to be a “just not ready, and I’m scared” situation.