Violent nature of uncontacted tribes in the Amazon jungle | Paul Rosolie and Lex Fridman
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Guest bio: Paul Rosolie is a naturalist, explorer, author, and founder of Junglekeepers, dedicating his life to protecting the Amazon rainforest. Support his efforts at junglekeepers.org
Is he wearing a suit and tie in the jungle??
You should be a detective. Your critical thinking skills are second to none.
Part of his show I guess
No
Hey! Captain Obvious is over here folks!
I think so
“The Wizard of the Upper Amazon” Is a great book about this. It’s the autobiography of a rubber worker in the early 1900s that got kidnapped by an Amazon tribe, ended up becoming a member of the tribe, and living out most of his life with them.
Theres something similar on Voices of the Past, here on YT, also recommend.
cool thanks for the recommendation, going to look it up! My friend is herpetologist and works in PNG, I'm sure he'll want to know about it too.
‘We picked that up yesterday!’
‘Was that yesterday?!’
‘I don’t know’
‘…I don’t know’
Loved this
Deep.
Native Americans tribes were constantly at war with each other long before industrialization. That could be a strong contributing factor in the Amazon, but is not an adequate general explanation.
Honestly dude, I think violence is just an inherent part of our nature.
Lex is iconic, sitting in the jungle in his suit... as you would!
he picked a bad day to wear a suit. This was one of those ideas that seemed like a great idea on paper, but then....the bugs came
Wouldn't a suit protect more against bugs ?
@@theboxingbikeryeah but he’s probably sweating like a dog
My goal in life is to say, "was that yesterday". What a life these two people live.
Lex Fridman wearing a suit in the jungle is epic af
You know the English men that mapped out Africa also wore the same attire, with less accommodations in the 1800s. Same as Teddy Roosevelt when hebexplored the amazon. Lex Friedman is in no way impressive
Sounds like a weekend in St. Louis.
Lexington looking like someone who went on a week long acid trip with me in 97
Lex looks exhausted! What an adventure. Extremely interesting!
Yea he walked all the way there, road a horse then took a riverboat and hiked from there. Definitely didn't get a plane, a truck, a camper and sleep in AC with an entire crew at his beck and call. Total madman
As a Brazilian who follows developments of indigenous peoples issues, I can say that this is utter BS . Uncontacted peoples are suffering attacks from illegal miners, loggers and drug dealers TODAY. That's the simple and easy explanation for their reactions.
He is full of 💩. He says a lot of things that are just flat out wrong/lies.
So you think they weren't violent before we showed up? That's a pretty naive view of history and also contains an excessive sense of self-importance. Most cultures have been violent throughout history. It's the norm not the exception. The exception is cultures who aren't violent bec most of them got wiped out by other cultures who were.
I think the point is how violent and resistant they are to the outside world. I don’t think the claim is what you’ve expressed.
Had a great campfire vibe! Great story too!
They had to have something to keep the bugs away. Bet it was one of those propane type bug repellents . And with the bright light? It’s amazing it worked as well as it did
The amazon has much fewer flying pests than northern Canada, especially northern Quebec and Labrador. If you don't believe me just ask anyone whose been to both places.
The ultimate rubber barron was king Leopold of Belgium. He owned the entire Belgian Congo as personal property and exploited it with absolute disregard for the people.
And you and everyone you know has benefited in some way from that exploitation.
The entire modern reputation of Leopold and the Belgian Congo comes from one book that took extreme liberties with the facts. The author, Hochschild, admits as much. There's good reason everybody says it reads like a riveting novel-- it's basically historical fiction.
@@larrydanadavid2435 So where do we go from here?
@@mmhoss except for the fact that close to 12million people died under his brutal rule . Its crazy how you people will defend extreme evil. Guess it a European thing
@@larrydanadavid2435 that doesn't excuse the atrocities Jesus you people are something else
There’s parts of Miami I’m scared to go in such as what you’re describing here
lol g
Lex wearing that shows such a great commitment
Does anyone know what tribe this story pertains to?
Only asking because I’ve heard many of the tribes in the Amazon are not violent at all and are somewhat friendly to outsiders.
They were violent long before the rubber tree thing.
How did they not get eaten alive by insects interviewing in the jungle??
Who are the insects interviewing?
First of all, the term "jungle" typically refers to the dense vegetation that grows back temporarily after you cut down the trees in a tropical rainforest, while a well-established rainforest is typically quite spacious.
Secondly, there's no inherent reason why insects would be eating you up, just like they typically don't in forests elsewhere.
@@outisnemo8443 wellllll actually In the jungle (yes the jungle.. a word we all understand and picture in our head) so in a tropical rainforest there is extremely high humidity and heat and water..and sooo many different insects..in the night they come out and especially go towards the light...it's extremely weird that they are not swatting away insects every 5 seconds
Insect repellant.
@@outisnemo8443 ???????? are you rarted
Great clip one thing tho. A shotgun slug will still shoot pretty accurate at 200 meters. Done it at the range. But they probably weren't using those.
'Pretty accurate' is a far cry from how precise longbow archers are. You can probably hit your target with the shotgun. Archers can hit a dime at that distance.
@@EvilChiIdthose long bows are anything but precise, he is full of bs. Most archers aren't very good past 25-30 yards.
@@EvilChiId hit a dime at 200 meters? show me.
@@Steve-ev6vx Yeah, and There's barely even any place in the jungle you could even see longer than 30 meters anyway, only dense forest. So a shotgun is superior in that environment anyway
@@ricardo3760 Yeah, visibility in most places is probably about ten feet/3 or 4 meters 😂 Probably have to get on the banks of a river to get out in the open.
Lex making sure he blends into the jungle... with a suit lol
It is interesting to note how an ancient weapon, maybe hundreds of thousands of year old, can be more deadly than some modern weapons.
A shotgun is much more deadly close range, it simply wasn't built for close range. If they brought rifled slugs they would perform well at the same distance as an arrow.
How does he know who shot first between the loggers and the tribesmen?
As someone who shoots compound bows, DO NOT under estimate bows at all especially with broad heads, but compared to a 12 gauge yea not even close.
No one actually thinks that a bow is more powerful than a shotgun, what's being taken into account is the longer range of the bows combined with visibility (or lack) of the dense jungles.
@@Kaptain_Torrent_a stick bow doesn't have a longer range than a shotgun slug. Especially a 7 foot arrow. He is soooo wrong. They aren't hitting anything at several hundred meters with a long bow, not in one shot, maybe a huge volley. And rifles do exist.
I don't think their bows are longbows in the sense we think of them
Highly recommend the novel "The Vortex" by Jose Estasio Rivera Salas.
What a great adventure and learning experience
I don’t know
Amazing stuff 👏 👌
These guys need to read more anthropology. Viveiros de Castro for a start. David Kopenawa another.
What happened to lex’s big trip?
Paul looks like a young Serj Tankian
CW didnt want to tell the true story i see Oliver Queen really learned how to shoot the Bow from them
Now the loggers are going to have generational trauma from the tribes.
Constant war was the state of the world before civilization somewhat tempered that flaw in mankind
4:40 reminds me of the first Indiana Jones movie.
One of my examples as to why violence is just part of our nature. We are the most dangerous animal. It has been that way and will be that way forever.
That’s right, we are hunter/warriors
The Most Dangerous Game. ever read that book? i think you would like that book.
Every one of these shorts makes me more anxious than the last. I bet this guys mom lives in a constant state of anxiety.
rubber tappers were disciplined by chopping feet and hands off.
I know that from Terence Mckeena
Sadly, sometimes the punishment was meted out to their children. I don't think humanity is worthy of existence.
Are we outside?
I’m itchy just watching this
*what is it*
Lex looking greasy and strung out 😂
He knows we'd forgive him for not wearing the suit right?
Not everything is about y'all
Lex actually looks a lot healthier here than usual, a ruddy and healthy complexion, probably from the sunlight and physical activity.
@@outisnemo8443 it's a seldom known fact that Lex's shirt and jacket are fused to his skin using nanothreads.
but manlier than in any other videos before, so there's that
Your skin Lex, after sweating your body weight out, in that suit, must be amazing.
Humans are hunter/warriors. Its our oldest occupation. Only about 40% of men have sired children throughout history and that is because of warfare. The mortality rate of the Yanomami was about 60% due to constant warfare
it'd be cool to learn their myths.
long bow accurate to 200 meters?!?!?!
Not a chance 😅
Don’t mess with the ancients.
2A says I can.
@@illbet4589doesn’t apply in the Amazon dumbass lmao 😊
I will if you get me an attack helicopter
Wait 7 feet arrows wtf
I picked up on that as well. Don’t think it’s possible to shoot a 7 foot arrow
I'm brazilian i've been to the amazon. not sure if they're exactly seven feet but some tribes there shoot arrows that are indeed the size of a person and they do it by shooting the bow with their entire body. its not the typical two handed bow, they use their feet to stablize the bow and use both arms to pull it back, something like that. its been a while since i thought about it so my memory is a little rusty.
A 7 foot arrow isn't shooting several hundred meters out of a stick bow. Those are for much closer range and they aren't as accurate as he is trying to portray.
Are you guys outside 😂
Just leave them alone. They are like part of the rainforest now
What’s with the suit? Isn’t that concerning?
They're right to reject our gifts. There is no gift we can give them that would justify introducing our diseases into their world.
Who is this 'our' you speak of?
By that logic, there's no excuse for their human sacrifice.
Smallpox killed over 90% of all Native Americans and it killed many from the blankets and clothing the settlers gave them. By "our diseases" they mean diseases that were carried with the settlers across the ocean and into North America, eventually spreading across the entire continent and wiping out thousands of different indigenous cultures. For more information and stats, check out Douglas Preston's The Lost City of the Monkey God.
@@randomuser6306members of western society in specific
@@shentanomoroy7361 no one I know introduced any diseases, except Fauci and his team in conjunction with the WIV when then made covid.
Oh you're talking about what happened 50p years ago when no one on earth knew the first thing about the existence of viruses? My, how virtuous you are, judging people with knowledge of the future they didn't know! What an enlightened soul you are. You're better than them because you weren't born back then. Wow. Good job! I'm impressed.
I've never understood this logic. The vast majority of people absolutely do not wander off into the forest and become hunter gatherers again. In most countries this would be possible to do. Therefore why assume that these people wouldn't make a choice to know more and be more than they are, being a member of society at large.
You can't imagine one of the children from one of these tribes sitting at night by the fire and looking up at the stars, wondering if there's more. Wanting to know more?
Longbow rang is not a couple hundred meters........
If you aim it like a mortar it is.
Max arrow range is achieved at an incline angle of 45 degrees (as with mortars, which are generally angled at 45 to 85 degrees). Medieval longbowman could achieve 150-300 meters with a single shot, but due to strength involved in drawing the bow, not many shots at that range in actual combat. I doubt whether these tribes use that strong of a longbow for hunting, so their ranges are probably much less. The point 😅 is that at maximum bow/arrow range you don’t have much accuracy, especially given the primitive technology which varies widely and with environmental factors like wind. Their skill, via hunting, is obviously going to be great, but they get lethal at much closer range, which is I think your point. Let’s call it “effective longbow range.” I do think Rosolie was exaggerating here. Just my two cents…
@@tommyrq180 Yeah SCIENCE!!!
@@tommyrq180Yeah you are right, there is no accuracy when shooting like that. They launched volleys off arrows like that hit the target.
_Self Protection_ is not "violence".
*Freedom is not free.*
#RulesWithoutRulers
Free Palestine
Shotgun slugs can accurately hit at 300 yards regularly. Your being ridiculous.
*You're
50-100 yards MAX. You can hit something accurately 3 football fields long?
I don't hear some things talked about, including violence to protect the forest. Indigenous peoples I know have never seen Nature the same way as modern peoples: as a resource to exploit. If you see your community, your home, disrespected and attacked, would you not attack back to protect the place (is Ukraine not doing this as foreigners enter)?
Well isn't that what Hamas is doing?
@@tonyr3090 some overlap in context, but only some.
@@GB-ws8zx If Hamas didn't kill innocent people, the world would be on their side. Make me wonder if some of these Hamas guys purposely killing innocent people are staged Mossad ops.
Are saying Ukrainian's aren't modern humans? 😂
@@Steve-ev6vx My Ukrainian friends wouldn't waste time with such jokes, and I agree with them.
Lex aged like 20 years from going on this holiday.
Imagine what kind of stuff they put on the spikes that got him😮
More like 25 years
mountain lions
I don't blame them for being violent.
Lex looks hungover and tired
Is this the same ding dong who was “eaten alive”?
Why does that make you mad lmao
@@ismashurmom1123 you’re wrong to assume I’m mad 😂 it was a hilarious train wreck
Great it was released eight seconds ago
That's how fast it takes these tribal guys to violently steal you girl.
Let them be.
Ruling BS on “a couple hundred meters.” At best those arrows might be indirect fire at that range.
You think they can't hit those? They have to hunt daily with those arrows to survive. Some of them probably shot them more time than days you've spent on earth
The bow is their tool of choice and they have no distractions in life. I'm sure they are experts at insane distances. Imagine if all your spare time went towards shooting arrows how great you would be at it.
@@KoNViiKz
Not likely. I’ve been around a while. And I shoot a lot of things. Including bows.
I have no doubt they are effective hunting tools and weapons. But “a couple hundred meters” is an exaggeration for accurate fire with any bow, much less primitive.
Not to mention it is a jungle. I’ve been in those, too. Good luck seeing “a couple hundred meters.”
I will say that within 100 meters, I would not want to engage a pissed off tribe with a shotgun. Their ground, their advantage.
Maybe s couple hundred meters if you're on a football field. A couple hundred feet through the densest vegetation on the planet probably gets in the way of a lot of those shots.
@@untilvalhalla7854 You should watch the tribes on Sentinel Islands. There are recorded videos of them shooting arrows at incoming boats at 100+ meters accurately. We're talking as primitive as the tribes in the Amazon. Don't underestimate practice with a tool, no matter what it is
Send in the clowns!
Are they naturally violent? Or are they just defending their way of life from what they see as a disease ridden warmongering culture?
I dont see indiginous tribes killing millions every year in war.
Many tribal people have long histories of violence. No need for romanticism. We are all humans
@@richardfraser7024 Fair enough.
All life on Earth is naturally violent. Earth is an inherently violent and hostile place.
plot twist - theyre not violent they jus know the truth
4:01 bullshit, 12g slug will go way farther and hit way harder than a fucking arrow
On what expertise about these people and their arrows are you basing this bs on.
A Long bow has a similar effective range to a slug. Impacts are obviously different but your mini meltdown is off base
@joerose8702 the "long bows" those native use are nothing like the English longbow, their bush bows arnt even 65lb draw strength and less than 27 inches in draw length, so the arrows are less than 30 inches
Wow how did you find the time to see every now these uncontacted people have?
@@alexsetterington3142 English?
Good discussion. Thanks. The deal is, how to befriend them. Its like dealing with an abused dog. They are as we are…language is so important…a mental bridge.
The only problem is you are the one who did it to the abused dog. You'll never be able to get discussion going.
@@richawoman discussion? You might be correct. resolving what a woman is, is a bit beneath me. But this is an important issue. We’r not good at mixing paradigms.
Sounds like this inspired Avatar's plot
All these fascinating topics, covered by the least, entertaining, podcast host any of us have ever seen.
“At the turn of the century in the Industrial Revolution” - that was enough for me. Industrial Revolution started in about 1750.
The Brits smuggled seeds of the rubber tree to S.E Asia & destroyed the local rubber industry in Brazil.
FFS leave these isolated tribes alone. They are protecting their heritage. Sentinelese of Andaman Islands are protected legally by India. We should afford all isolated tribes the same protection.
Ignorance is a bliss. They are already happy the way they are. I wish I can forget all this modern bullshit and live like them.
I know he boiling alive in that suit
You know he’s naked below the waist right
Of course there going to be aggressive 🤦🏻♂️
Apocalypto takes place in NORTH AMERICA / Mexico, for God's sake.
No it doesn't? The ending is Cortez landing. That's south america. Either way, back then they were the same people. Look up how Mexicans came into existence
I don’t see his evidence that they have a culture of violence, violence is just a tool they use to protect their culture (whatever that might be, no one knows)
They literally carved out human hearts to make it rain.
Mmmm, sweaty Lex…
Richard Evan Schultes
FREE NORTH SENTINEL ISLAND
Remember during the pandemic, when they sent convoys to vaccinate the uncontacted tribes in the Amazon?
That was one of those moments where you go: "Ohhhhhhhhhh! This whole thing is a political hoax..."
jungle boogie
No, you are not shooting a 7 foot arrow a couple hundred meters. Just stop exaggerating.
Only an idiot would wear a suit in the Amazon rainforest. People still asking why he's sweating buckets...
Poor Lex looks like he's so hot in that suit but he is committed to his look!
Its funny being one of the first people here and seeing the early comment section. I see a bunch of comments being left by pictures of butts.
Yes, they're all over the net.......🤣🤣🤣🤣🤔
All those smelly butts stinking up the comment section
This shows who we really are, the destroyer that cut down his own rubber tree's already, and now needs to become his worst self to take what he needs from others.
"The range of a shotgun is way shorter than the range on a long bow...."
No. No, it's not. That is an absolutely absurd claim.
There are so many podcast hosts that just sit back & listen to their guest spew horseshit instead of being like "What? No. You're out of your mind." Lmaooo
The range of each depends on the conditions.
@@neutrino1543 if you take a long bow arrow & get the most skilled archer on the planet to shoot it?
And then I take the same arrow & load it into a shotgun?
The archer loses 100% of the time.
They were hunted for sport or converts, most of all the slavery
I love these jungle people, and because of that I will leave them be
It's not 'their ' nature, its HUMAN nature
Surprised Lex gave this fake air-time 😳
“They are violent because of Generational trauma” lol😂
Bad thumbail. Ancient Mayan Civilization has nothing to do with the Amazon Rainforest.
Same shit tbh
my guys are somewhere in a luxury hotel pretending to be deep in the jungle... funny