Goodman Sean on your explanation of the merger. I remember a neighbour complaining about the contamination with a Rake, either it was set incorrectly or the ground was uneven not sure, but he was not impressed. I saw these machines operating in America and Europe and thought, this could work here in Ireland!! I wish Sean and his company the very best for the future 🚜🚜
It looks like a pretty cool machine but I’d like to have a seen the same pickup teeth on the lower pickup and the rotor up top. I can see these being a little more reliable than a rotary rake but the skids on the bottom look a little sketchy to me if you’re in rough ground. I’m used to fields full of rock though so it’s probably a different story there in Ireland and I’m definitely jealous. There’s no doubt that a merger would make cleaner forage as well because the grass is basically being picked straight up and placed rather than being dragged across the ground. I have to wonder though, with the forward leaning tines, how it does in thin grass because it seems as though it would need a decent amount of grass pushing against the tines to pick it up.
Thought the presentation and explanation of how it all works was great, the guy obviously knows his onions. The one area where this machine will score over a tined rake is its flexibility in terms of either merging into the middle or to one side or the other - not sure if you can do that with a tined rake. What will undoubtedly go against it, is its price, first and foremost, and its comparative complexity compared to a tined rotor machine, plus the power and size of tractor required to pull it versus a tined machine. Very well engineered piece of kit from what I can see though, and think large scale contractors will certainly be willing to give it a shot.
Sooner or later farm kit is going to have to get simpler the tech and the cost of tractors keep going up and up and people keep buying things like this but a bale of silage or hay is still worth exactly the same
Lovley machine, but your up against the rotary rake which is cheap, reliable and requires less hp to run.. Dont think this will work in ireland.. Probably better suited to places like the states and Australia with massive flat fields where you can drive it on...
Do machinery designers just get drunk and start scrawling machinery ideas onto paper. What's the point in this, why is it better than a rake??? I have seen many wet fields raked with a 30 foot class rake and it never left a mark nor lifted a sod. I wouldnt like to see this thing coming in
It'd be worth it to me in alfalfa hay. Be able to go with less worry about leaf shatter and less dirt. Rotary rakes just do not work well for alfalfa, wheel rakes work but they drag too much dirt on our sandy land, and parallel bar rakes have always been high maintenance for me. It would also be nice to be able to adjust for cuttings, heavy yields you use the center delivery, light yields swing the mergers together and double up, but you keep the baler full. My only real complaint is I would have to run the front merger as well to keep from running over swaths as much as I can and causing leaf shatter from the tires. Still, it'd be cheaper than the new Ploeger mergers.
It gets on my nerves when he said its a expensive machine, why for once in my life can a sales man say this machine is the same price as the previous model or cheaper 🎉🎉🎉🤩🤑 when are manufacturers goung to stop hiking the prices up? one day they will wake up and realise they have driven their customers out of bissnes. You have basicly the same gearbox as you did 20 years ago and you are paying 3 times the price for it. Everyone is moaning about the price of tractors and the machinery, contractors are moaning that they need to put their prices up, but they can't because the farmer can't afford to pay them any more. This downward spiral started about 13 years ago.
@@grizzz6884 the difference is the value of housing has risen with the cost of building. Agriculture the costs have quadrupled and the value of our products are the same or less. I was talking to my uncle and aunt last night and they haven't had a milk cheque from Freshways since June I think he said. Daylight robbery that is.
Think they're missing a trick with the marketing here. I can't imagine you can convince the contractors to spend the extra money when you can get rakes that cover a wider distance for cheaper and a more proven concept. Where I can see these machines being used is in straw, where you generally lose material with a standard rake in the stubble, and in alfalfa/lucerne where the brittle leaves are easily damaged. Personally, if I were in the market, I'd go for the front mounted single version.
This is what is called 'over engineered' . They try to sell it with the benefit that it brings less dirt in the grass while several tests have shown that it doesn't. I don't see any benefits comparing to a normal swader.
Goodman Sean on your explanation of the merger. I remember a neighbour complaining about the contamination with a Rake, either it was set incorrectly or the ground was uneven not sure, but he was not impressed.
I saw these machines operating in America and Europe and thought, this could work here in Ireland!!
I wish Sean and his company the very best for the future 🚜🚜
Looks like one of the better merges from a engineering point of view, good video & very informative!
Over designed for what it does. Like trying to reinvent the wheel. More to go wrong and more expensive. Why??
Very well said Kieran
why because the corporates that run this place constantly want u spending money! only good tractors an old tractor
Shocking price and a big rake does the same job. Do you know the price of one of those,.
WOW!
Now that's an Awesome bit of kit 👌🏻
Keep up the great work guy's 🙂
Stay Safe out there,
All the best,
Mark 👍🏻
Still see no advantage over a 30ft rake an the price difference
Contamination?
It looks like a pretty cool machine but I’d like to have a seen the same pickup teeth on the lower pickup and the rotor up top. I can see these being a little more reliable than a rotary rake but the skids on the bottom look a little sketchy to me if you’re in rough ground. I’m used to fields full of rock though so it’s probably a different story there in Ireland and I’m definitely jealous. There’s no doubt that a merger would make cleaner forage as well because the grass is basically being picked straight up and placed rather than being dragged across the ground. I have to wonder though, with the forward leaning tines, how it does in thin grass because it seems as though it would need a decent amount of grass pushing against the tines to pick it up.
They should try do a controlled test of how much more is baled up using one versus a standard rake.
Real class bit of kit. Looks mint on that Massey.
Thought the presentation and explanation of how it all works was great, the guy obviously knows his onions.
The one area where this machine will score over a tined rake is its flexibility in terms of either merging into the middle or to one side or the other - not sure if you can do that with a tined rake. What will undoubtedly go against it, is its price, first and foremost, and its comparative complexity compared to a tined rotor machine, plus the power and size of tractor required to pull it versus a tined machine.
Very well engineered piece of kit from what I can see though, and think large scale contractors will certainly be willing to give it a shot.
I'm a John deere fan and owner but that Massey is sweet looking
Massey' are seriously beautiful tractors
Sooner or later farm kit is going to have to get simpler the tech and the cost of tractors keep going up and up and people keep buying things like this but a bale of silage or hay is still worth exactly the same
Love the massey ferguson you've got
same
If it’s red leave it in the shed
When will the agri is our cultures jumpers be back in stock
Interesting machine👍😉 the massey is a perfect match to it👍😁
I turn hay with a 135 and a rotor rake. I sure takes a wee while
Lovley machine, but your up against the rotary rake which is cheap, reliable and requires less hp to run.. Dont think this will work in ireland.. Probably better suited to places like the states and Australia with massive flat fields where you can drive it on...
Its enough of a job to change the pick up reel tines on the forager.
Do machinery designers just get drunk and start scrawling machinery ideas onto paper. What's the point in this, why is it better than a rake??? I have seen many wet fields raked with a 30 foot class rake and it never left a mark nor lifted a sod. I wouldnt like to see this thing coming in
the point is that you pick up less sand with the grass, and the swath size is variable. In my eyes its way to expensive only for that.
It'd be worth it to me in alfalfa hay. Be able to go with less worry about leaf shatter and less dirt. Rotary rakes just do not work well for alfalfa, wheel rakes work but they drag too much dirt on our sandy land, and parallel bar rakes have always been high maintenance for me. It would also be nice to be able to adjust for cuttings, heavy yields you use the center delivery, light yields swing the mergers together and double up, but you keep the baler full. My only real complaint is I would have to run the front merger as well to keep from running over swaths as much as I can and causing leaf shatter from the tires. Still, it'd be cheaper than the new Ploeger mergers.
Middle row doesn't get moved
Good job but how would it fair out when it meets a stone 🧐
Monster… but very impressive.
It has its place for sure.
Thats Nice!!🚜
Expensive over complicated situation to a problem that didn't exist. And a ropped lumpy swath
I this will be a couple of grand so I'll just stick to the normal rake fine machine
I think they're about 80 grand list price.. you'd buy 3 krone tc760s for that money..
Just bought the USA dvd. Never been so disappointed in my life ! Worst £18 I have ever spent . Just boring talking and no action throughout.
Cool looking machine, great consept, but not my cup of tea.
Imagine how long your going to spend greasing that thing
I would estimate between three and ten minutes, depending on how accessible the grease points are.
@@gkloepper no shit and by looks of how many bareings and moving parts there will be a few
Van looks like an expensive waste of money when you can do it cheaper
First
It gets on my nerves when he said its a expensive machine, why for once in my life can a sales man say this machine is the same price as the previous model or cheaper 🎉🎉🎉🤩🤑 when are manufacturers goung to stop hiking the prices up? one day they will wake up and realise they have driven their customers out of bissnes. You have basicly the same gearbox as you did 20 years ago and you are paying 3 times the price for it. Everyone is moaning about the price of tractors and the machinery, contractors are moaning that they need to put their prices up, but they can't because the farmer can't afford to pay them any more. This downward spiral started about 13 years ago.
25 years ago , and its not just farming , try building a house today over building a house twenty years ago
Well said
@@grizzz6884 the difference is the value of housing has risen with the cost of building. Agriculture the costs have quadrupled and the value of our products are the same or less. I was talking to my uncle and aunt last night and they haven't had a milk cheque from Freshways since June I think he said. Daylight robbery that is.
Think they're missing a trick with the marketing here. I can't imagine you can convince the contractors to spend the extra money when you can get rakes that cover a wider distance for cheaper and a more proven concept. Where I can see these machines being used is in straw, where you generally lose material with a standard rake in the stubble, and in alfalfa/lucerne where the brittle leaves are easily damaged. Personally, if I were in the market, I'd go for the front mounted single version.
This is what is called 'over engineered' . They try to sell it with the benefit that it brings less dirt in the grass while several tests have shown that it doesn't. I don't see any benefits comparing to a normal swader.
I just can’t understand the need for something THIS expensive in comparison to a rake....
One simple question, Will it ever pay for itself?
How does the price compare to a rake? Rakes go on pretty much forever, fairly cheap to replace tines.
You can think of at least double the price for the same width.
That is some kit
You can get a mower that will do all this
This isn’t for mowing......
Yes, but no.... actually not.
Love the title ahaha 😂
Probably costs 1 testicle and 1 kidney to buy + vat for Hogan's pension. . Haybob 360's yer man.
So can i buy it with a sold merger? I put 5 windows together to chop
So it’s just a fancy rake
I got a big crush..
He's keen ain't he
Can you only merge to the middle not to the side
You can merge to either side!
First
Im sorry when I heard plastic I had no more interest to be honest..
Why not?🤔