Marteen Lake When english speakers try to pronounce swedish words they are usually impossible to understand. Like when Stephen Fry tried to say Surströmming on QI. Better to usee whatever word you would call it in english unless there really isnt an english word. Gravad Lax for example means Burried Salmon in english but if they called it that maybe it wouldnt sell so well. Same when swedish people spell the name Kevin, Cewin how the hell is that supposed to be pronounced?
rimmersbryggeri Im not talking about translations, im talking about when you get a word and read it out how it is. But yea probably a few words might sound indistiguishable but if people speak english they still have their accent not put on ours, english speaking people are literal the only ones that do it. im sure in a resturant in England it would not be a problem at all not pronoucing in the accent.
Not usually but thsi dish would not be served in england though. It's not even served in most of sweden. But I think these things are a little bit like when news people interview burmese people and the news people call in myanmar while the burmese people call it Burma since that's its name in english. I think people should say words as they say them translitterated to local pronounciation but I guiess that's a problem when we use the same alphabet but extended with letters you don't have. Personally I always say the number on the menu in restaurants because that's what the number is for.
+Marteen Lake English speaking people are not the only ones who do it, some of my fellow Serbians (mostly girls) tend to pronounce English words with a full on poncey accent and it annoys me - and I studied English linguistics and literature at the University! I have a pretty distinct British accent, when I speak whole sentences you might mistake me for a Brit, but when English words are interjected into Serbian I kind of adapt it to the rest of the sentence, because an over the top accent just sounds unnatural and fake. My point is - it's a worldwide thing and it solely depends on a person''s amount of cringeworthy ponceyness.
There was a series of American Express commercials in America in the 70s that featured people who weren't necessarily celebrities but were somewhat well known, people who you might have known their name, but wouldn't have recognized on the street. They all started out with the person asking "Do you know who I am?"
Mel hit the nail on the head. I thought I was the only one! I knew someone who did that, it was so annoying and pretentious, she sounded so daft and it was Italian she over pronounced.
BemusedExpression And to think that he satirized those upper middle class git types when he was young ... that man has become a caricature of toffee nosed intelligentsia.
@@QuiznosBear It´s because they speak Italian at home and the accent comes naturally with the words to anyone who speaks a language, you should try it.
I was taught french by a man that spoke french with an extremely thick accent, and to this day when I speak french I still have whatever accent he had. I can tell you given how much shit I get from french friends it wasn't a french accent.
I like to check out those, 'Rudest celebrities you've ever met' sites. One name crops up over and over. Someone who treated people like dirt, was incredibly rude and was always saying ; "don't you know who I am?''......................Cilla Black!
I have heard similar. In fact she is unconsciously doing it here. The anecdote about the shop assistant for example And the way she has to name drop all the time ´When I was in Libertys´ then tells us how posh Libertys is! Who cares?
The first person that popped into my head was Tara Palmer-Tomkinson. Sounds like the sort of thing she'd do, but she'd have enough money to buy a first class ticket to begin with.
But why spend the money buying a first class ticket, when you can buy a cheap ticket and then throw a tantrum to get a free upgrade That's how you save money
I'm lost as to what kind of accident can happen where cutting your underwear out of your jeans wouldn't at best be pointless and possibly make it worse. ??
I reckon the person Cilla wouldn't name was Joan Collins. I agree with Hugh, I hate cards at work. I also agree with Mel with the over pronunciation thing.
As an American I agree with Cilla. There are some down to earth friendly celebrities who don’t expect special treatment at all, and those are the folks I like. The ones who think they deserve to have their backsides kissed simply because they’re famous and have used the, “do you know who I am?” line are absolutely horrendous. Yet, people keep feeding their egos and they just get worse. I absolutely understand looking up to someone if they’ve accomplished something that you really admire or think is great, but I’m appalled that the public puts celebrities on pedestals simply because they’re famous. I wish it would stop.
Back when dinosaurs ruled the earth I worked the door on a popular nightclub. One night a famous footballer waltzed past the line and demanded entry. I said "No, you pushed in, and you don't meet the dress code." Of course the "don't you know who I am?" followed. I said "haven't a clue. even if I did you still aren't coming in" (I knew exactly who he was) I'm a big guy, he looked me up and down and sulked off with his entourage. The funniest part was the irate crowd he'd pushed in front of, some of the lads near the front had heard the who conversation and started chanting at him "Who are ya? Who are ya?" the rest promptly joined in. One of the lads said "you know that was XXXXXXX?" I grinned and said "Yes I know"
That TV chef is actually from an Italian family though... XD Not even sure if she was born in the UK herself or if they moved there when she was little, but she talks about her Italian family and their traditions a lot in the show. I am guessing it would be more weird and fake for her to put on a British accent for Italian words, when she is bilingual. :P
For some reason it really ticked me off that that woman (forgot her name) gets ticked off by talking about dreams. I find it hilarious to listen to other people's dreams, because they can be so wacky.
12:31 . Sorry this us very pedantic but this is not a Chinese cheque. The symbol is for yen and anyone who's done any reading in Japanese can tell that's Japanese writing
It is Chinese. 中国 is the Chinese for China (People’s Republic of). The two countries somehow share the same currency symbol, as they do some Kanji, but other than that they are quite easy to tell apart if you are pedantic. In this case, even if you haven’t done much reading in either language, the telltale sign is the difference between the kanji Chinese Yuan 元 and the Japanese Yen 円 after the numerical amount. Whatever your opinions about it are, this is still the BBC. They don’t have a perfect record on portraying either culture or language, but rest assured they can afford access to researchers who actually have the knowledge, instead of assuming they do.
Jocelyn Atkinson Same. My daughter is 8 years old now, but went to a few when she was a baby/toddler and if I have anymore kids, I definitely won't be going again. Most of the other moms are exactly as she described -- annoying and self important. "What, your baby hasn't rolled over, yet? Mine did last week all by himself." Yeah, that's probably because your baby is two months older than mine, you saggy, shriveled uterus.
...By all accounts Cilla is a fairly revolting woman when it comes to interactions with Joe Public - terribly stuck-up...sounds like the person she is describing!
I’m totally with Mel on the Italian one ... however, Frank was wrong about Chinese ... it’s not the same thing because you’re just doing a false Impression of Chinese speaking English, NOT actually speaking the Chinese language.
I agree with Mel but in my case it's people who don't speak a word of Hungarian and insist on pronouncing Budapest "Budapesht". It's so pretentious and makes me want to scream.
Poor old Cilla she was lovely and natural but she had her face pulled back so tight she just made the teeth stick out more. Why with her money when she had so much money, she didn't have braces in her younger years. But she was lovely.
But why do Brits purposefully mispronounce French words? For ballet, they won't say "bal-LAY" but always "BAL-eh". For "Marie" they say "MAH-ree." For "eclair" they say "AY-clair". Is it just that they can't bear the French?
No it's because, in English, 2-syllable nouns are usually stressed on the 1st syllable but, in French, 2-syllable nouns are usually stressed on the 2nd syllable. As French words are adopted into the English language, the undergo a stress shift from 2nd to 1st. The reverse is true of French speakers pronouncing English 2-syllable nouns, of course . So you get 'le parKING' and 'le buisNESS'.
I didn't think Cilla was rude or obnoxious. She wasn't funny, which was irritating, but that's because she was so out-of-touch. She just seemed sad to me.
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as my mother once put it, "if you have to ask someone if they know who you are...you already know the answer"
Cilla was great.
Anyone see her hosting Never Mind The Buzzcocks?
Bloody awesome!
I agree with Mel, you don't need to do an accent everytime you pronounce a word in another language.
Marteen Lake When english speakers try to pronounce swedish words they are usually impossible to understand. Like when Stephen Fry tried to say Surströmming on QI. Better to usee whatever word you would call it in english unless there really isnt an english word. Gravad Lax for example means Burried Salmon in english but if they called it that maybe it wouldnt sell so well. Same when swedish people spell the name Kevin, Cewin how the hell is that supposed to be pronounced?
rimmersbryggeri Im not talking about translations, im talking about when you get a word and read it out how it is. But yea probably a few words might sound indistiguishable but if people speak english they still have their accent not put on ours, english speaking people are literal the only ones that do it. im sure in a resturant in England it would not be a problem at all not pronoucing in the accent.
Not usually but thsi dish would not be served in england though. It's not even served in most of sweden. But I think these things are a little bit like when news people interview burmese people and the news people call in myanmar while the burmese people call it Burma since that's its name in english. I think people should say words as they say them translitterated to local pronounciation but I guiess that's a problem when we use the same alphabet but extended with letters you don't have. Personally I always say the number on the menu in restaurants because that's what the number is for.
rimmersbryggeri it is not the translation that is the problem, im talking about no need to put on a full blown accent
+Marteen Lake
English speaking people are not the only ones who do it, some of my fellow Serbians (mostly girls) tend to pronounce English words with a full on poncey accent and it annoys me - and I studied English linguistics and literature at the University! I have a pretty distinct British accent, when I speak whole sentences you might mistake me for a Brit, but when English words are interjected into Serbian I kind of adapt it to the rest of the sentence, because an over the top accent just sounds unnatural and fake.
My point is - it's a worldwide thing and it solely depends on a person''s amount of cringeworthy ponceyness.
Surely those large checks were symbolic for publicity shots. That's not what would be taken to the bank.
It's a joke
There was a series of American Express commercials in America in the 70s that featured people who weren't necessarily celebrities but were somewhat well known, people who you might have known their name, but wouldn't have recognized on the street. They all started out with the person asking "Do you know who I am?"
Mel hit the nail on the head. I thought I was the only one! I knew someone who did that, it was so annoying and pretentious, she sounded so daft and it was Italian she over pronounced.
Stephen Fry.
BemusedExpression And to think that he satirized those upper middle class git types when he was young ... that man has become a caricature of toffee nosed intelligentsia.
Yes, whats worse is when they dont actually speak the language. So they insist on over pronouncing certian words but can't actually form sentences.
Specifically 4th gen american Italians that have never even been to Italy.
@@QuiznosBear It´s because they speak Italian at home and the accent comes naturally with the words to anyone who speaks a language, you should try it.
I came here for Hugh Dennis but freaked out over Mel Giedroyc. Great episode!
Desky and Mel, Tv's favorite double act.
@@katie4496 They were great on Taskmaster!
Mel is a force of nature.
Jesus Frank,you cant put ladies knickers into room 101! They have ladies in them!
haha i love that, that's hilarious!
I love talking about dreams and that sorta stuff because sometimes they can be real funny
R.I.P cilla black
4:49 Awe, what a wonderful throwback video to get to see. She’s always been gorgeous and funny.
Thanks for the ul. That dude breaking his bottom was hilarious
Always loved Cilla. Saw her live a couple of times and she was tremendous.
Cilla is a awful awful person
Hey! Mel has a classic Casio watch - best watch ever made! Design icon!
F-91W?
r. I.P cilla
"I was rather afraid you were going to say that"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I usually try do the accent of the language I'm speaking. But that's mostly because I find it funny.
I was taught french by a man that spoke french with an extremely thick accent, and to this day when I speak french I still have whatever accent he had.
I can tell you given how much shit I get from french friends it wasn't a french accent.
yes I love Hugh from outnumber and mock the week lol
I like to check out those, 'Rudest celebrities you've ever met' sites. One name crops up over and over. Someone who treated people like dirt, was incredibly rude and was always saying ; "don't you know who I am?''......................Cilla Black!
I have heard similar. In fact she is unconsciously doing it here. The anecdote about the shop assistant for example And the way she has to name drop all the time ´When I was in Libertys´ then tells us how posh Libertys is! Who cares?
17:26. I'll never sleep again.
I love Cilla Black. May she rest in peace... and may St. Peter know who she is.
Anna Tsyplakova I love her too,
The first person that popped into my head was Tara Palmer-Tomkinson. Sounds like the sort of thing she'd do, but she'd have enough money to buy a first class ticket to begin with.
But why spend the money buying a first class ticket, when you can buy a cheap ticket and then throw a tantrum to get a free upgrade
That's how you save money
Oh, Cilla! Step inside, love!
2 people could not handle our Cilla being turned on.
Hugh is so right. The No. of times I've written "all the best" and don't know who the flying fuck the person was or what it was for.
hahah yes. straight from the pub :)
I'm lost as to what kind of accident can happen where cutting your underwear out of your jeans wouldn't at best be pointless and possibly make it worse. ??
Back to the GameCube I go then.
great panel
You have to show up for the checks in the US as well.
whats wrong with a door knob? hhahahhahhaha
15:40
Wow. That laptop is the same one I own.
Everyone on earth has spaghetti with bolonese
I reckon the person Cilla wouldn't name was Joan Collins. I agree with Hugh, I hate cards at work. I also agree with Mel with the over pronunciation thing.
Collins was my first thought too
I love room lol
never go to ASDA, "Hey ASDA, I aint gonna be your bitch"
As an American I agree with Cilla. There are some down to earth friendly celebrities who don’t expect special treatment at all, and those are the folks I like. The ones who think they deserve to have their backsides kissed simply because they’re famous and have used the, “do you know who I am?” line are absolutely horrendous. Yet, people keep feeding their egos and they just get worse. I absolutely understand looking up to someone if they’ve accomplished something that you really admire or think is great, but I’m appalled that the public puts celebrities on pedestals simply because they’re famous. I wish it would stop.
Back when dinosaurs ruled the earth I worked the door on a popular nightclub.
One night a famous footballer waltzed past the line and demanded entry. I said "No, you pushed in, and you don't meet the dress code."
Of course the "don't you know who I am?" followed.
I said "haven't a clue. even if I did you still aren't coming in" (I knew exactly who he was)
I'm a big guy, he looked me up and down and sulked off with his entourage.
The funniest part was the irate crowd he'd pushed in front of, some of the lads near the front had heard the who conversation and started chanting at him "Who are ya? Who are ya?" the rest promptly joined in.
One of the lads said "you know that was XXXXXXX?"
I grinned and said "Yes I know"
That TV chef is actually from an Italian family though... XD Not even sure if she was born in the UK herself or if they moved there when she was little, but she talks about her Italian family and their traditions a lot in the show.
I am guessing it would be more weird and fake for her to put on a British accent for Italian words, when she is bilingual. :P
17:25 Well that was disturbing
For some reason it really ticked me off that that woman (forgot her name) gets ticked off by talking about dreams. I find it hilarious to listen to other people's dreams, because they can be so wacky.
Cinedragon 🙄🙄
Obviously, you'll have to type in the other parts of the link yourself (UA-cam won't let me post the entire thing).
0:45 that is LIVING legend, don't you know who she is?
4:32~4:53😊😅😂❤❤❤
12:31 . Sorry this us very pedantic but this is not a Chinese cheque. The symbol is for yen and anyone who's done any reading in Japanese can tell that's Japanese writing
It is Chinese. 中国 is the Chinese for China (People’s Republic of). The two countries somehow share the same currency symbol, as they do some Kanji, but other than that they are quite easy to tell apart if you are pedantic. In this case, even if you haven’t done much reading in either language, the telltale sign is the difference between the kanji Chinese Yuan 元 and the Japanese Yen 円 after the numerical amount. Whatever your opinions about it are, this is still the BBC. They don’t have a perfect record on portraying either culture or language, but rest assured they can afford access to researchers who actually have the knowledge, instead of assuming they do.
I love Cilla forever
I find it odd no-one ever selected 'people'.
I agree with Mel, one needs to get one's freak on.
Yey Mel. Parent toddler Nightmare Groups
Kerryann Alleway I completely agree. I avoid them.
Jocelyn Atkinson Same. My daughter is 8 years old now, but went to a few when she was a baby/toddler and if I have anymore kids, I definitely won't be going again. Most of the other moms are exactly as she described -- annoying and self important.
"What, your baby hasn't rolled over, yet? Mine did last week all by himself."
Yeah, that's probably because your baby is two months older than mine, you saggy, shriveled uterus.
I think Cilla is losing her memory because she put the "People who say Do you know who I am" in Room 101 the first time she was on it!!!!
Would be interesting to find out what cilla thoought of savile...
They were Bessie Mates!
9:44 - She was finally defeated by "bolognese" (didn't even try).
RIP Cilla Black
...By all accounts Cilla is a fairly revolting woman when it comes to interactions with Joe Public - terribly stuck-up...sounds like the person she is describing!
Cilla Black what a treasure she was. Not one ounce of pretensions no airs and graces, just a girl done good.
What kind of an accident?!?!?!?!
But, but I can't go outside and kill the metroid prime.
Wtf did he think Vegas was gonna be about?
I have actually seen Hugh Dennis at Euston Station, but I did know who he was and I didn't speak to him.
How the hell did this crăp get 13 seasons?
its this or shite 90's remakes 🤷
Who thinks Vegas is a proper place for a family holiday when you have young kids?
In the words of Eddie Izzard, "This is not a game of Who the Fuck are You..."
"modern" technology for her...so like the wheel
I don't get the whole cutting of the pants? What was the accident?
pooped herself and didnt want to drag it down her legs taking the pants off
Cilla Black used to have amazing legs!
lallies
23:37
Often very american "people"
So what was the accident ? begs the question.
I think she may have shit herself
Are you dim?
I’m totally with Mel on the Italian one ... however, Frank was wrong about Chinese ... it’s not the same thing because you’re just doing a false Impression of Chinese speaking English, NOT actually speaking the Chinese language.
27:00 this is a complete lie.
I think cilla came across as fake and a little self obsessed, hiding behind false modesty
Joanna Lumley doesn't seem like the type.
I agree with Mel but in my case it's people who don't speak a word of Hungarian and insist on pronouncing Budapest "Budapesht". It's so pretentious and makes me want to scream.
I went to Barphelona in May.
is it as nice as Pariii?
They must have asked her to come on and pick the same things she did on the last time!
i ate that, i absolutely ate that
The check/cheque thing was just stupid...obviously they are not paid into the bank....
Poor old Cilla she was lovely and natural but she had her face pulled back so tight she just made the teeth stick out more. Why with her money when she had so much money, she didn't have braces in her younger years. But she was lovely.
But why do Brits purposefully mispronounce French words? For ballet, they won't say "bal-LAY" but always "BAL-eh". For "Marie" they say "MAH-ree." For "eclair" they say "AY-clair". Is it just that they can't bear the French?
BemusedExpression very ignorant comment.
No it's because, in English, 2-syllable nouns are usually stressed on the 1st syllable but, in French, 2-syllable nouns are usually stressed on the 2nd syllable. As French words are adopted into the English language, the undergo a stress shift from 2nd to 1st. The reverse is true of French speakers pronouncing English 2-syllable nouns, of course . So you get 'le parKING' and 'le buisNESS'.
The Welsh girl is half Italian and speaks Italian.....
I didn't think Cilla was rude or obnoxious. She wasn't funny, which was irritating, but that's because she was so out-of-touch. She just seemed sad to me.
Cilla has done the same bit on Room 101 before. watch?v=TZ9mlvjB-6Y
Seen this loads of times and its now boring
Alex Harrison You could stop watching it?
+Alex Harrison What annoys me is that every single time I swim in a pool - I get wet! Life's a bitch, init?
Alex Harrison I bet this guy goes around licking windows.
I think Hugh Dennis is drunk.
Dull episode..
Don't like the blonde chick.
dont like anyone named "kelly".
This is unwatchable.
Mel and Cilla. Ugh.