Thank you! A very good demonstration of the curb and Shluter installation. You are an artist and truly care about the quality of your work. Very helpful.
Joseph your work is awesome, ignore all these people that comment like if they are the experts. I would like to see them post videos so we can criticize their work.
You are one of the few contractors that I see install a shower pan without penetrating it on the inside and/or top. It seems most of the other tilers on youtube drill through it, although they do use waterproofing techniques. Another observation; you don't have comments in any of the videos, that I've seen anyway, say, " You are doing this wrong." Most of the other videos have comments saying something about code violations, poor waterproofing, or a number of other things. I am in the process of remodeling my bathroom starting from the studs. I'll use your methods for my guidance. Thank you so much for spending the time to make videos to help us DIYers save money and get beautiful results (I hope I will anyway).
The proper way to do it is by floating the curb using a metal mesh. Penetrating the liner is unaccepted because water will eventually penetrate the liner after couple of years . If a shower curb is constructed from wood studs mold will start growing on the curb. Penetrate the liner is a short cut contractors are using and it is against code.
Following are related videos for building shower curb: How To Build A Shower Curb - Part 1 - Prep and Build the Curb Frame. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNGnZ... How to Build shower Curb - Part 2 - Pouring The Concrete And Creating The Curb www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRNW-... How To Build and Float A Shower Curb - Part 1 - Step by Step www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eQHF...
Good job. Why do you cut the tiles a shorter length for the curb rather than leaving them the same length and cutting small tiles on the ends of the curb? Is it just uniformity?
I've worked with the pail but I prefer a big square dish basin the rubberier the better, i like getting the trowel in there sideways.. Its an idea, if you never saw it you might not think to change, but getting the trowel in & working without scooping with a 2nd trowel saves time & cleaning.
Very nice video. I like how you explained everything. I'm doing my first DIY bathroom tile job and thanks for mentioning the threshold since I was wondering what to put in the corners. 2 questions. 1. Did you put a threshold also on the inside of the shower step? 2. I see you are using a thin set already pre mixed. I like that, which kind is it and did you use it for the whole bathroom?
Thank you. I did not use threshold inside of the shower step. I did not use a pre mix thin set . I use Mapei rich in polymer thin set that is recommended to use in shower and water environment.
@@josephk9182 Great workmanship! Much appreciated of you to give away old tried and tested secrets and tricks of the trade. We were over to Italy a few years ago, and while most of our group was admiring the churches, as was I, I couldn,t help but see so much manhours of artisans and labourers combined. I saw yesterday, a two part epoxy grout mortar combination. Sounds handy in shower areas. What is your opinion. Thank you. From Canada
1. No. Inside I used bull nose tiles. I installed them after I installed mosaic tiles on the shower floor. 2. I did not use a pre mixed thin set. I used Laticrete 254 .
if you are asking regarding the diamond mesh metal please look at this video: ua-cam.com/video/7eQHFXKqN2c/v-deo.html If not please let me know. Thanks
shouldn't the top tile be slopped into the shower itself? this way any water on the surface of that tiel would then simply run into the drain, if its level the water can and will seep onto the bathroom floor.
I run out of this tile size and it was a special order from Home Depot . I had to order 1 box of 8 tiles 24x12 inches. I use instead 12x12 tiles for that. But, you are correct, it would be better and easier to use the same tile size.
Waterproof is not needed because the curb is concrete and the way I install the liner. Please look at the videos below . It doesn't matter how the way you spread the thinset. The most important is that 90% of the tile area will be covered wi th thinset.
I just had my shower done and I was somewhat disappointed that they used metal strips like you used instead of bullnose tile. I'm having to get use to the metal when I was expecting a total tile job. Is the metal stripping common? My contractor said the tile I picked out did not have bullnose. But he should have explained that and I may have picked out a tile that had bullnose pieces.
The metal is commonly used as a threshold in tile when a bull-nose tile is not available. It will be very difficult to find 2 sides bull nose tile that will fit your shower curbs. The tiles I used on the curbs are bull nose but only one side bull nose.
@@josephk9182my contractor explained that he doesn't like bull-nose because you have to use too much grout and the metal gives a cleaner look. Still I would have liked for him to have explained that first.
There is no need to use red guard or any other waterproof paint because my curb is constructed from concrete not stud or wood. I used hydro ban water proof when needed as you see the green color on the sides.
You should NEVER EVER USE REDGUARD IN A SHOWER!!!!!!!!!! REDGUARD REQUIRES THAT YOU USE A MODIFIED THINSET FOR THE TILES. MODIFIED THINSET IS FORTIFIED WITH LATEX WHICH IS ORGANIC AND IS A FOOD SOURCE FOR MOLD GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!! UNMODIFIED THINSET ONLY IN A SHOWER!!!!
As a tile installer, what i see wrong here, is that he did not waterproofed the shower floor and walls. and that space between the floor and wall, all the inside and outside corners had to be patched and waterproofed. my opinion.
Wrong. I waterproof the shower floor with PVC liner under the quick - slope. You should not waterproof the quick slope by painting the quick-slope. The work is done according to Tile Council of North America (TCNA).
what about the water getting in between the mud bed and the liner? Is that according to TCNA? Even if the liner is sloped to the drain, the water will still remain under. I had the chance to redo a lot of showers done this way, and i know why Im asking you this.
They can not because the liner s going 8 inches above the floor and bside I water proof the wall here needed using aticrete hydro ban which is better than red guard.
George Grigoras isn’t that why there are weep holes in the drain assembly? From what I’ve learned you do not waterproof the top of the mud pan except around the edges
The manufacturer of Oatey actually recommends NOT waterproofing the top of the mud pan. The reason for this is because when the water gets in between the pan liner and the red guard membrane (which it will) it will create mold since there will be no ventilation in between the two impervious membranes.
I used 1/8". I did not use 1/4" !! On the shower floor I used mesh tile 1/16" space between but on the walls and curve I used 1/8". The white spacer I bought from Low's and it is 1/8" spacer.
Please look at this video: ua-cam.com/video/YvMjiM-Od3Q/v-deo.html Or this ua-cam.com/video/1TnlbLDaBq4/v-deo.html Or ua-cam.com/video/b8hsBzAQQiI/v-deo.html
ese nivel no es confiable solo para dos o tres trabajos se pandean no saben cómo proteger en las terminaciones. por eso inventan e inventan productos a cada rato
No base waterproofing? Hm.. I think mankind already tried and failed this many times in the past, right? Just google for engineering tile installation would help.
Please look at the following videos and you can see that the curb is built from concrete so you do not need to use waterproof paint such as red guard. Following are related videos for building shower curb: How To Build A Shower Curb - Part 1 - Prep and Build the Curb Frame. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNGnZ... How to Build shower Curb - Part 2 - Pouring The Concrete And Creating The Curb www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRNW-... How To Build and Float A Shower Curb - Part 1 - Step by Step www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eQHF...
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Thank you! A very good demonstration of the curb and Shluter installation. You are an artist and truly care about the quality of your work. Very helpful.
Any time.
This is master craftsmanship! Amazing accuracy and attention to detail!
Thank You.
Thank you 🙏🏾 you are the only one that shows how to slope the curb.
Any time.
Joseph your work is awesome, ignore all these people that comment like if they are the experts. I would like to see them post videos so we can criticize their work.
Thank You
You are one of the few contractors that I see install a shower pan without penetrating it on the inside and/or top. It seems most of the other tilers on youtube drill through it, although they do use waterproofing techniques. Another observation; you don't have comments in any of the videos, that I've seen anyway, say, " You are doing this wrong." Most of the other videos have comments saying something about code violations, poor waterproofing, or a number of other things. I am in the process of remodeling my bathroom starting from the studs. I'll use your methods for my guidance. Thank you so much for spending the time to make videos to help us DIYers save money and get beautiful results (I hope I will anyway).
The proper way to do it is by floating the curb using a metal mesh. Penetrating the liner is unaccepted because water will eventually penetrate the liner after couple of years . If a shower curb is constructed from wood studs mold will start growing on the curb. Penetrate the liner is a short cut contractors are using and it is against code.
Has Angelo Turner been done with the DIY remodeling ? How did it turn out?
You are very precise,good work ,you sure take pride Buddy.
Thank You.
Following are related videos for building shower curb:
How To Build A Shower Curb - Part 1 - Prep and Build the Curb Frame.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNGnZ...
How to Build shower Curb - Part 2 - Pouring The Concrete And Creating The Curb
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRNW-...
How To Build and Float A Shower Curb - Part 1 - Step by Step
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eQHF...
Thank you for this video
Any time.
Good job. Why do you cut the tiles a shorter length for the curb rather than leaving them the same length and cutting small tiles on the ends of the curb? Is it just uniformity?
The small tiles I cut from 12x12 tiles. I did not have enough 12x24 tiles for it . Yes you can do it also.
I've worked with the pail but I prefer a big square dish basin the rubberier the better, i like getting the trowel in there sideways.. Its an idea, if you never saw it you might not think to change, but getting the trowel in & working without scooping with a 2nd trowel saves time & cleaning.
Thank you for the tip.
Very nice video. I like how you explained everything. I'm doing my first DIY bathroom tile job and thanks for mentioning the threshold since I was wondering what to put in the corners. 2 questions.
1. Did you put a threshold also on the inside of the shower step?
2. I see you are using a thin set already pre mixed. I like that, which kind is it and did you use it for the whole bathroom?
Thank you. I did not use threshold inside of the shower step. I did not use a pre mix thin set . I use Mapei rich in polymer thin set that is recommended to use in shower and water environment.
@@josephk9182 Great workmanship! Much appreciated of you to give away old tried and tested secrets and tricks of the trade. We were over to Italy a few years ago, and while most of our group was admiring the churches, as was I, I couldn,t help but see so much manhours of artisans and labourers combined. I saw yesterday, a two part epoxy grout mortar combination. Sounds handy in shower areas. What is your opinion. Thank you. From Canada
1. No. Inside I used bull nose tiles. I installed them after I installed mosaic tiles on the shower floor.
2. I did not use a pre mixed thin set. I used Laticrete 254 .
thank you but i could not hardly hear you at all.what was the metal strip made of you used on the curb.did you remove it and then add grout? thanks
if you are asking regarding the diamond mesh metal please look at this video:
ua-cam.com/video/7eQHFXKqN2c/v-deo.html
If not please let me know. Thanks
shouldn't the top tile be slopped into the shower itself? this way any water on the surface of that tiel would then simply run into the drain, if its level the water can and will seep onto the bathroom floor.
He did slope it. Before he started to install it he showed us how he slopes it. That’s why he is putting the top on first and the inside last.
Very nice, Joseph! This helped me a lot!
Thank You
just confirming: you did not grout in-between tile and curb before tiling the curb. I was wondering if I needed to do this.
I grout after II installed all the tiles. So the answer is yes.
Why not use same size tile on top of curb as on the side and the floor?
I run out of this tile size and it was a special order from Home Depot . I had to order 1 box of 8 tiles 24x12 inches. I use instead 12x12 tiles for that. But, you are correct, it would be better and easier to use the same tile size.
You buttered the tile horizontally but the curb is vertical. Why did you do it this way? And no waterproofing??
Waterproof is not needed because the curb is concrete and the way I install the liner. Please look at the videos below . It doesn't matter how the way you spread the thinset. The most important is that 90% of the tile area will be covered wi th thinset.
I just had my shower done and I was somewhat disappointed that they used metal strips like you used instead of bullnose tile. I'm having to get use to the metal when I was expecting a total tile job. Is the metal stripping common? My contractor said the tile I picked out did not have bullnose. But he should have explained that and I may have picked out a tile that had bullnose pieces.
The metal is commonly used as a threshold in tile when a bull-nose tile is not available. It will be very difficult to find 2 sides bull nose tile that will fit your shower curbs. The tiles I used on the curbs are bull nose but only one side bull nose.
@@josephk9182my contractor explained that he doesn't like bull-nose because you have to use too much grout and the metal gives a cleaner look. Still I would have liked for him to have explained that first.
Bull nose does not need much grout and you are right the contractor need to inform you before he used metal trim instead of bull nose.
@@josephk9182which do you prefer? The shower does look great. It is growing on me.
Jay G. metal bullnose looks way better
good job
back butter grooves should be in the same direction as the wall grooves... NOT criss-cross.
Thank for the correction.
is that drywall you using behind the tile on the shower?
It is Hardie backer board. I never use drywall in shower. I also never tile on drywall unless it is fiberglass drywall
Joseph K cool!
Why didnt u use red gaurd
i didnt see ANY water proofing???? LOL
There is no need to use red guard or any other waterproof paint because my curb is constructed from concrete not stud or wood. I used hydro ban water proof when needed as you see the green color on the sides.
You should NEVER EVER USE REDGUARD IN A SHOWER!!!!!!!!!! REDGUARD REQUIRES THAT YOU USE A MODIFIED THINSET FOR THE TILES. MODIFIED THINSET IS FORTIFIED WITH LATEX WHICH IS ORGANIC AND IS A FOOD SOURCE FOR MOLD GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!! UNMODIFIED THINSET ONLY IN A SHOWER!!!!
OMG please stop yelling@@michaelhorn9114
As a tile installer, what i see wrong here, is that he did not waterproofed the shower floor and walls. and that space between the floor and wall, all the inside and outside corners had to be patched and waterproofed. my opinion.
Wrong. I waterproof the shower floor with PVC liner under the quick - slope. You should not waterproof the quick slope by painting the quick-slope. The work is done according to Tile Council of North America (TCNA).
what about the water getting in between the mud bed and the liner? Is that according to TCNA? Even if the liner is sloped to the drain, the water will still remain under. I had the chance to redo a lot of showers done this way, and i know why Im asking you this.
They can not because the liner s going 8 inches above the floor and bside I water proof the wall here needed using aticrete hydro ban which is better than red guard.
George Grigoras isn’t that why there are weep holes in the drain assembly? From what I’ve learned you do not waterproof the top of the mud pan except around the edges
The manufacturer of Oatey actually recommends NOT waterproofing the top of the mud pan. The reason for this is because when the water gets in between the pan liner and the red guard membrane (which it will) it will create mold since there will be no ventilation in between the two impervious membranes.
Why does every time guy in these videos have a Eastern European accent?
Sorry, but many of your grout lines are way off! What is going on there?
Optical illusions. My grout lines are perfectly in order.
OMG ..bro c'mon man. Finished maybe looks good, But efficiency is amatuer at best
why 1/4" spacing in a shower...whyyyyyyyy?
I used 1/8". I did not use 1/4" !! On the shower floor I used mesh tile 1/16" space between but on the walls and curve I used 1/8". The white spacer I bought from Low's and it is 1/8" spacer.
@@josephk9182 I read your information wrong in the video.
@@professorkaos2781 Okay thank you.
Your work is commercial.
Show what ? You says show you show but you do not show how to put edge on?
Please look at this video: ua-cam.com/video/YvMjiM-Od3Q/v-deo.html Or this ua-cam.com/video/1TnlbLDaBq4/v-deo.html Or ua-cam.com/video/b8hsBzAQQiI/v-deo.html
ese nivel no es confiable solo para dos o tres trabajos se pandean no saben cómo proteger en las terminaciones. por eso inventan e inventan productos a cada rato
Estás en lo correcto. Gracias por el comentario.
No base waterproofing? Hm.. I think mankind already tried and failed this many times in the past, right? Just google for engineering tile installation would help.
Please look at the following videos and you can see that the curb is built from concrete so you do not need to use waterproof paint such as red guard.
Following are related videos for building shower curb:
How To Build A Shower Curb - Part 1 - Prep and Build the Curb Frame.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNGnZ...
How to Build shower Curb - Part 2 - Pouring The Concrete And Creating The Curb
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRNW-...
How To Build and Float A Shower Curb - Part 1 - Step by Step
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eQHF...