Everything gone! I had to remove all solar 5/5
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- So, this took me a lot longer than I expected, almost the whole day. I had to remove the old solar system before the new one comes in. Including all cable and rail system. I also found a burn mark on one of the Canadian Solar panels. Not good! We will keep this panel and see if we can make some testing with it...
So, one more sleep until Christmas. Aeh, almost...
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Andy! Your battery is almost empty and we are all chomping at the bit to see your next videos!
Yes, I know and still no solar connected... 🙄
I never would have thought that you're one of those leaf blower guys. 😯😂
That was a big mistake to use this on the roof. The garage looked like sh!t afterwards as all the dust came in through these gaps. That took me almost 2h to clean up again. It's in the next video...
Oh!!! Mrs. Andy is way way much better than Andy 2, no complaints,just work. Peaceful, got the job done easy
We're a good team! It was a lot easier to just let the panels down as pulling them all up.
Sorry I couldn't make it down your way help, I had to stay home all day to make sure my air conditioner was working properly!
Luckily you have a good off sider on site to help.
Sad to see your old system dismantled.
Looking forward to the next episode.
Right at the end even the Cockatoo's are laughing.
It thought the same. They are always laughing at me. Kookaburras they are...
Ha Andy, it may seem sad.........
But look forward to what your getting......
We are all always improving and adjusting our set ups...you are just taking the next HUGE step.
Yes, that's how I see it as well. We have all learned a lot from setting up the solar on my roof, so it is time to move on.
Andy... You really need to address the Shadowing !! JMO
I believe he is, the answer is more panels.
I believe we've discussed this already...
@@OffGridGarageAustralia sorry, not everyone follows every video you post... PS: I have almost 2KW of Solar on my Camper roof because I can move from the shadows. We Never put Solar on the House because we had a 80-100 foot Texas Umbrella Tree Blocking the roof.... It would have been too much shadowing for it to work..
Übung macht den Meister.
Anfangen ist leicht, Beharren ist Kunst.
Wer ernten will, muss säen.
Good progress! And early start!
Good luck today installing the new panels🍻
And it is raining....
That is satisfying, a good days work, and a ice cold SPAT, enjoy👍
It was pretty much needed after all this work 😉
I’m exited for you Andy ! Cheers !
Well deserved SPAT!!!! hope it goes well tomorrow
It didn't... 🌧🌧🌧
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Never mind bud, looking forward to seeing the completed install, hope you enjoyed a day off, was a lot of work you put in yesterday
Awesome sauce!
The hard work makes the ice-cold S.P.A.T. taste all the better! I hope the install is going smoothly.
It was very nice, indeed 🍺
Excited for you Andy
Yes, me too. A bit sad but also exciting...
Incroyable 2 ans d'installation et voilà... beau boulot et merci pour la suite de l'aventure avec ta nouvelle installation solaire ! à demain.👍
C`est seulement un boulot d` appoint pour notre ami Andy ... 🙂
Need Andy fix!😊
So sad, all that hard work, but it was a great journey to follow you on.
We will re-use these panels for future projects. I have a lot more coming up...
HUUUUGE UPGRADE!!!! Cant wait to see!!!!
It started raining today 🌧🌧🌧🌧
@@OffGridGarageAustralia As you predicted.... No Sun No Fun!!!
Really good video, and I certainly understand how much it hurts to see all the hard work and effort dissappear so quickly. But the good news is that all the effort is not in vain, but rather now is being sacrificed for bigger and better things.
Thank you, John. I was glad I did all this work to learn, understand and share. It was also good to see how far you could come with such used panels, how they perform in different situations and seasons. I've got some data now to compare to the new system.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Be mentally prepaired for bad days when the Photons just can't get through. On bad days there is no differance between my brand new Trina Solar Virtex S or my used gumtre panels. O.7kWh all day is my worst so far out of the 4kw of new Trina panels.
I nearly cryed!
Well at least it's stopped raining.
Andy, I still wonder, how you can enjoy Oettinger so much 🤣
It's a great beer! 🍺
Andy believe me i know that feeling and my customers too. ;-) But i still missing Andy 2.0
He'll be back soon. I hope so at least...
Big day, good job Andy, will be nice to see those roofs full of new panels again and pumping some real power
Yeah, the power will be epic, I think. Far more than I would need just for the garage.
You earned three spats Andy, as soon as I saw the thumbnail, I was sad too. Parting, is such sweet sorrow. I can’t wait for tomorrow, like a Phoenix from the ashes, east roof 2.0! Bumpenfisst!
And today it is raining again. Cannot believe it... ⛈⛈⛈
Nooooooo! Appointment cancelled?
I am checking the channel every hour now... I should check your weather...
Good luck Andy, hope it all goes well.
It's raining again today ⛈⛈⛈
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Raining here in the UK. Hope its going OK there.
Andy, your batteries are going down !
Only 14% left (NOT GOOD) and you have the courage to to still pull over 1kwh off them with only 72watts coming from the poolfence. Where is the update on the install ?
Well, in the mean time, good luck from late night in the Netherlands.
I'll have an ice cold very well calibrated S.P.A.T. On you, cheers !🍺
14% are still ~5-6kWh, so I'll go for it. As long as I don't hit 3V, it's all good.
Video is coming...working on it, mate!
Thanks to Mrs Andy for the help!
Heya, that is said to see work for months brenken down in just 2 days
All the best for the new installation. Regarding canadian solar what I heard from my friends is they too have the same problem with cracking. That's why I went with bifacial don't hv to worry at all about cracking. Lol.
Could have been a bad batch from 10 years ago. CS is usually pretty reliable.
1 change comes hard when you ve put so much calibration in it.
Nice progress, time for a couple of SPATs
Probably the only good aspect to do this task in such hot period is that the cables easily get out the pipes thanks to the added flexibility of nice warm copper...
The conduits are all short runs luckily, just through the roof in the combiner boxes. We will see if the sparky will use their own cable glands now for that.
Hell Yeah! Just had a Spat or few myself...😁
One or a few??? Makes a big difference 😊
@@OffGridGarageAustralia LOL, yes it does!
Good luck with the install Andy. Hope it goes smoothly for you. Great that the weather cleared up in time.
Yeah, nah, it started raining again. Installation is on hold...
Who needs Andy 2 around mucking up the operation when you have Andy 1, the One-Andy army? Andy 2 does send his regards from up top with a weather report: 'Pure gunk, rain and 2.5kw from the old coal plant to knock off the chills.
Yeah, I'm sure Andy2 comes back when there is free beer 😂
@@OffGridGarageAustralia He's been away too long.
The suspense! Excited for you, can't wait to see all the power you get with the new solar
Yeah, me too but it is raining again ⛈⛈⛈ No installation today...
Hi Andy from South Africa so I'm also changing my system but still using lead acid batterys added bigger panels but I have never been sorry to doy my unit good luck with the new system and wish you good health
Thank you very much. All the best to SA.
I cant wait to see the new Solar Panel arrays ! It will be exciting ! I would love to have more myself. But need to Jump to 48 Volt before I do that.
Yeah, can't wait either. I left the two Hyundai panels ant the pool fence system connected to get some solar at least but now it is raining again⛈⛈⛈ no installation today...
Make it 3 S.P.A.T.S & CHEERS!!
I had only one. fresh calibrated for the new panels.
I like the bunnings hat :) :) Good work and cant wait to see the new system running !! I used to live pretty close to where you are (western subs Brisbane) and worked even closer (west Ipswpich, Toongarra Rd) and if still there, would have liked to have a beer or two :)
I can see a public EV charger in your setup and air conditioning for the garage coming.
Ok, now returning to Germany!
Hahaha, yeah, it looks like this 😄
So much good work undone... So much good memories ☀️🤩 Ps. Where's the other Andy when you need him? That slacker 🙄
Yeah, but for a good reason, right? I'm glad I discovered this hotspot before summer hits us. Cannot imagine what could have happened.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia maybe it's prudent to put additional fireproofing under the new panels? Now you have a chance.
Andy that is mild temperature... Try 47-50 C in Phoenix
Wow, that is high, I have seen those temps at Dirranbandi (western Queensland) one year I did a trip out there for work, it was over 40oC for 3 weeks of December that year.
@@evil17 we get over 100 days in a row of this....
@@michaeld4502 Bugger that!
Spring has just started. Give it a few more weeks...
@@OffGridGarageAustralia is your site spamming me?
You should put the cables in through the side of the building not through the roof and if you want to use same holes it was easier for the electrician to use the old cables to pull the new ones through but i still enjoy to see your video. You are a star the way you are :)
They will use their own glands to go through the roof, I believe.
Much as I like trees, I would do some pruning before adding the new panels. Then plant some trees away from the house and garage.
We had this discussion before...
What about all the old holes in the roof?
He mainly used existing bolt holes, so just put the original bolt back with sealing washer.
Yes, all screws went back in. The roof is now in its original shape again. Apart from the conduit holes...
I wondered this too.
Our journeys have been similar. Battery build and Victron setups and I’ve been running second hand panels for around 2 years - along with some brand new panels - they out perform second hand older panels by a long way - and when roof space is at a premium it’s false e coming to use second hand. It will be interesting to see a sparky work on your system - getting it somewhere near compliant is something I’ve wanted to do but it’s next to impossible to find one that will work on the systems without paying cash :-)
Yeah, I'm glad I found the sparky in this area here who has some knowledge of this battery stuff. I have to pay him, true but it is worth it to keep it all safe and compliant. He will do more work for me in the future.
Those panels must have an affect on the temperature inside your garage.
Enjoy your big upgrade day.
Love Gaz
Oh, yes, absolutely, That was a big help in summer time and a lot cooler...
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Like a Space Capsule re-entry Heat Shield!
On the subject of heat, that panel of yours with the hot spot makes me happy I upgraded Mum & Dads roof when I did.
The photos I sent you were tiny fingure nail size hot spots and now obviously thanks to you it was the start of big troubles to come.
I have had really bad buyers remorse.
Thanks Andy
Shine on!
Good evening!
Hello 👋
Amen
Typical Murphy's law. Crap weather for the prior days until you need to go on the roof. That's when it gets bloody hot.
Looking at the VRM portal. Already two days without any solar (excepting pool fence and the singled pv). Batteries close to empty. Everything ok their Andy? Did the new solar installation got canceled?
Hows the new solar panel install going ?
cool
Is it better to have PVC conduits for the solar wires?
These are UV stabilised PVC pipes, conduits and ducts.
You could have left the cables in the conduit. I would be happy to pull the new cables threw with the existing cables 😅
I think they will use their own holes and conduits. As I said the conduit and silicon is apparently not as per code.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia I'm curious to see how it goes 😀
The upgrade will make you forget about ripping this all out. That hot spot on the one panel is scary... haven't seen one before. Now I understand how they could catch fire. Great video as always. I hope you'll get some footage of the upgrade even if you're not doing all the work.
Yeah, I was a bit surprised as well with the hot spot and that it went through already. More testing coming...
A few years ago I replaced 30 10 Year old Panels from a customer under warranty and they all that multiple hot spots.
The manufacturer was sun power.
You've forgotten the song "Only Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun"
What's needed is to add extra lyrics with the inclusion of a Handy Andy the Australian German and solar installers.
I don't know this song, hahaha. I was not in the mood to sing actually...
Actually I've been warming up to Andy number two so the way I see it is Andy one and two can work together!
All b******* aside, you are one hard-working son of a gun Andy!
I must admit, I have not been paying complete attention to your videos lately. Though I watch this one and it's entirety. And determined that Canadian solar is crap! I look forward to the next informative video. Thanks Andy, and though I'm in Fort Worth Texas I will be enjoying a spat with you!
Thank you. It was a lot of work getting it all done in one day.
And now it is raining, so no panels on the roof at all...
@@OffGridGarageAustralia I really have no idea where you get all the energy from. That said if I could acquire a quarter of that amount of energy that you exhibit. I will be one happy camper!
CHEERS MY FRIEND, CHEERS!
Three Days!
...not good... hahahah
Will be interesting to see the quality level of the new solar panel installation?
Will it meet your standards?
I'm sure it will meet my standard.
Hi, love your channel. I am learning ideas from your setup and doing similar(but I am far less experienced compared to your fantastic manufacturing ability).
I have a question. Relating to your busbar system, out of interest
1. what is the dimension of your busbar?
2. Do you think mounting horizontally is better than wall mounted?
3. Was/Is there any concern with weight, mounting the busbars on a wall vertical, or other benefits to doing as you did?
4. Did you buy your perspex already made?
Love your content, thanks!
Why are you using Canadian Solar panels in Sunny Hot Australia? It's obvious that they were meant to be used in cold weather northern climes! 🤣
Ahhhh, that is how it works 😂😂😂
But you could have gone over your roof with a mop! 😀
Looks a bit dirty. *flizzwech*
Today is pouring down so... 😊
@offgridgarage Sorry no Telegram here. 😞
stay charged 🚣🏼
You too, mate.
Is this the first time we have had a glimpse of the wife on the channel? Looking prepped now, hope the new install goes well.
Andy's wife has appeared erlier on their vacation. Mrs. Off Grid Garage. We iwe get quite a bit I believe!!!
She was in previous videos in the Off-Grid Garage. She's on my German channels a lot...
This video is showing the real cost of "free" electricity! :)
not sure I would have pulled out all the cable, they might want to use them as draw strings if they're using the existing ducting. But I suppose if they asked for it all stripped back. Are you doing anything about the old screw holes?
I thought about that, then remembered he used existing bolt holes in most cases.
Roof junctions should be Solodeck boxes and inside should be metal conduit for all dc wires. Combiners also are usually on roof so only 1 set of main cables runs down. Lets see what they will so. I doubt any of the old stuff could be used.
The sparky will use their own glands was my understanding, so not sure if they will use any of the existing conduits. And as they are short runs only, I believe, they have a cable feeder to get them back in easily...
So how much did you pay per kWh that you harvested from those panels+installation? That would be interesting numbers.
How do you calculate this. Very very hard to tell. All the data is in my VRM though, so 3.5MWh since I installed the logger, a few hundreds of $$$ for the panels, labour, other equipment...?
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Yes. It would take a lot time to list all the values that went into the system. I'm in process of installing solar on my boat and bought a lot of marine grade cables for all the electric - and I would not start to write separate lists for solar, water maker etc - understand that. But from your experience? Some rough numbers? Just because in the end it would be nice if all the doing even makes scene ;)
I'll hook you up. 18yr installer, Hawaii rep for Orient. Just fly me out 🤣
I'll let you know next time 😂
See you in 30 years 👍
What are you doing with the old panels and rails etc?
Future projects but I will also sell some of them (not the cracked ones though).
Hi Andy. How many years where these panels in use. This cracks and the hotspot are don't looking good! I'm a little bit afraid if this happens to my panels. 🙈 I've got brand new trina modules and i hope this will not happens to me till the next 15 years! 🙈
Greetings from Germany.
I have had 4 different brand of panels one the roof. So far only the Canadian Solar have shown these cracks and hotspot. They are used panels I picked up 2-3 years ago and are probably 8-10 years old. Could have been a bad batch as Canadian Solar is usually prety good. But I had one on my house as well with such a hotspot (Renesola)). All others are fine.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia ok, you took a little bit scare off me! Now I think I am fine for the next 10 till 15 years with my panels. But it is noticed, that I do have a look on the panels in 10-12 years, just for maintenance!
Thanks for your videos and answers!
Many greetings! 🤗
Oh dear: slow down a bit, Andy. The 60th birthday will come in sight...
Hahaha, that is still a bit away though... 😂
Canadian solar panels broken - What about warranty?
I got them used already. I'll get in touch with them and ask though...
Andy, do you think to use power optimizers with solar panels? when I see the videos I notice some of the panels have shadows over them... this will good chance to create hot spots issue. Do you planned to replace solar panels or use same panels from previous installation? It's better if you can use half-cut cells panel, it has good resistance to hot spot issue (bcz panel will contain 6 strings instead of 2)
No power optimisers! They don't do anything unless you have panels in different directions in one string.
I'm getting new panels installed as explained in this video here: ua-cam.com/video/obGwHrt08-k/v-deo.html
Yes video👍 ☀⚡🔌💡🔋
Don't expect one every single day now...
You have spoiled us.
And what is the lesson from all this? Pay someone else to put new panels on the roof? sad all that work and time. But wanted more power. Still love all your videos
I would still use used panels. I'll do some testing with the faulty panel and see if this would be visible with the IR camera. It was a bit scary to see all these cracks and the hotspot. It is also just this one batch of Canadian Solar panels. All the other 3 brands I had don't show any damage, cracks or hot spots...
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Dont worry,I have 8 second hand panels on my back shed with some batteries. But your system puts it to shame!!! Couldn't believe seeing sunshine threw the panels, I thought they would be in great shape till they stopped producing power. Must have some extra strong sunshine up there. Love all that you do, keep up the good work.P.S nothing but jealousy from me unlimited free power, free KM's for your Tesla all from the sun. Great Stuff.
How did you get the cerbo display to state the PV output of each MPPT?
It's in this video from last week: ua-cam.com/video/kAT5NDywgwk/v-deo.html
So for low voltage and low amperage strings they burnt really well. My inverter can take 500v VOC, that's a scary amount of volts. I've bought some MC inline fuses for the summer. All my panels are ground mounts, I refused to have then on the house. For cleaning etc. Once they catch fire how will you put them out on a sunny day on a roof. DC power is so dangerous as you can't let go until you're dead. 240v AC gives you a kick and you just shake that off. Also, this kinda takes the fun out of DIY Solar if you get someone else to do it.
Well your comment is a bit contradicting. You say Dc power is so dangerous and then want more DIY work with that. I think I explained the background of getting them installed in previous videos.
First😎😅
I hope I am proved wrong that this new panel upgrade is a mistake
Why should it be a mistake?
Yeah...FIRST comment.
Andy, get to work!
Andy2...a REAL SLACKER. NO Spat for Andy2!
No Jägermeister for Andy2, either.
BTW...tell those HYUNDAI people to SHIP the Shingled Panels to the US!
disconnecting strings by removing fuses, under load, is not good idea.
These fuse holders are made for that specific purpose since they are generally found in commercial combiner boxes. That is why the entire fuse swings so far out that it eliminates the problem of quenching a DC arc because the distance is so large and the disconnect happens so quickly. You are only talking about 80VDC and 8-9 amps under load since he has every string separated.
This maybe correct, however I have had problems trying to disconnect with this fuse type, not wanting to release properly for some reason, has anyone else had this problem?
@@kuhrd In datasheet of many of this fuse holders is: "cannot be used for switching under load". And yes, 80VDC could be safe. Especially if panels are in shade. But general people are watching. Someone could been do the same with 400V strings. Right way is: Disable charging on mppt and then i can get the fuses off. Or Switch of proper DC breaker and then the fuses.
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Not bad...
only one Question, was worth it to install such old used PV panels - but to push your channel ??
For all, which are not UA-camr, it would be absolutely stupid
Andy I used the right water proof boots on my roof. MC4 have the boots if you want to pull them on your website 😉. Lot of work to pull them down mate, beer and pool time.
Yes, it was a lot of work. Glad I did it and discovered this hotspot as well...