Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? | Michael Saylor and Lex Fridman
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i wish there was a part where Michael told us what is important
That's not important
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That Nakamoto owns 1mn bit ?
Yeah kinda important, but not mentioned by shareholders.
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@@-m4nGo- you confused. There is no shares. There is no shareholders. Yes he owns Bitcoin. The part the sh.tcoiners choose to ignore. Is that he didn't give it to himself. He had to mine it to help protect the network....Anyone else mining at the same time could have done the same i they had chosen to. Currently valued at $45billion (was $63billion) and it still has not move. How many other sh.tcoin leaders have we seen give themselves coins and then sell off when prices was high....But hey let's hear about your "better than bitcoin" sh.tcoin you want us to buy.
Just because an artists can create at a level most can’t comprehend doesn’t mean he would stop creating after a projects completed nor do they necessarily do it to satisfy the pocket or ego
It’s highly likely who ever created it is still creating today assuming they are still alive and smiling
A capable and complex mind doesn’t just stop working
The satisfaction of solving a paradox and moving to the next level is more than enough reward and then to see the solution utilised would be the icing imo
A logical place to look for someone at that level would be where ever the next evolution of the technology would take them because innovation in thinking lives on the fringes of the thought realm
Who’s on the leading edge?
Who’s capable of that level of complex thought?
What will you do when you find them and they don’t fit your fantasy of who they should be?
Bend the knee and accept my preconceived notions are wrong. Then dive head first into the socially perceived psychosis just to come out on the other side at the shores of objective reality. I haven't stopped walking inland since.
Is it you?
@@georgecarlin2097 🤣🤣
BTC is among the lesser things SN was involved with. After meeting regular people, he went to do his work solo again.
Thank you Brice. This is so enlightening ✨.
Satoshi is definitely one person. Let’s say it’s 3 people, definitely 1 of them would’ve spilled the beans or accessed the coins at this point
Satoshi was 3-5 people Hal Finney being the leader. He received the first BTC transfer and he also died a while back. Everyone with a brain is pretty sure he took the Satoshi keys to the grave with him. Much to Craig Wright's dismay (as I do think he was somewhat affiliated)
I agree with this, it's so unbelievably unlikely that even 1 person would be able to keep this shit under wraps, to the point that it might be more likely they're dead than alive at this point, but if they are alive, they might be the greatest humanitarian to ever live...so the idea that more than 1 person was in on it and able to keep it under wraps I just don't see as probable
@@icecoldchilipreppers6496 the thing is many people like Craig HAVE Spiller the beans. But noone believes it. So if someone else comes claiming to be Satoshi, still people would not believe it. Even after the piles and piles of real evidence Craig has showed, people still don't believe him... And that's hard to top.
Kleinman not craig IMO
@@ajyates_91 Adam didn't even own Bitcoin until 2014, hence why he still actively trades in hopes of getting richer.. Satoshi would have no reason to trade Bitcoin. Adam fundamentally did not understand key aspects of Bitcoin. Many things he has said in the past have been proved wrong over time by those that understand Bitcoin better. Adam heads Blockstrean which is owner of the lightning network... Basically a need that exists because Bitcoin can't scale. Satoshi wouldn't do that. Adam's goal with lightning is to profit from the lightning network. The more $$ transacting through lightning the more money Adam makes. Adam has simply milked very well the fact that he was mentioned in the whitepaper and has built his career and influence purely on that point.
Satoshi is the genius who lost his private keys 😂
lol i like this take, I'm just imagining him as just some avg joe who's going through a mental crisis on the daily trying to find/remember his keys so he can get a lambo while the rest of us are putting him on some pedestal haha
He burned them.
@Neil Miranda who told you that?..... Alex Jones? 😄
@Neil Miranda Well I don't like BTC as much as alts but this is clearly nonsense.
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This new set is nice!
What else is important? We could have a 10 hour podcast on this question
what's up with the finger's clasp?
It is time for you to approach everything you do during the day consciously. You should constantly control your thoughts and feelings. Any negative thought in your consciousness must be nipped in the bud. Protect yourself from everything that contributes to the existence of negative thoughts and feelings in your consciousness.
Saylors interview on the uponly channel was the best
This is an important clip.
The AI & Droids in this are amazing!
Lol saylor described Ethereum when he was saying how he'd scam people 😂😂
Bitcoin is gold, Ethereum is a payment system - they did more transactions that Visa last year.
@@FrankBullitt390 that's good and all but it doesn't change that the system saylor described is what Ethereum did
@@coreyford1755 Again, they did more transactions than VISA when barely anyone knows what they even are. You'd be dumb not to buy some ETH
@@FrankBullitt390 i didn't say not to buy some ETH. You can buy things as a decent financial play knowing that the fundamentals and way they operate is not ideologically consistent with the crypto vision prevalent to BTCers.
@@FrankBullitt390 eth isnt decentralized.... its the same as Fiat money why should i buy this scam. Vitalik can wipe the price to 5$ if he wishes so. Thats why bitcoin is superior. You are just a gambler with Ur shitcoins better go into the Casino...
It’s Hal Finney. All the OGs know this
Fair launch, fair distribution, great communities who help each other, sounds more like ERGO 🤔 as CH said spiritual successor of Bitcoin, yep its really true
my outside shot for satoshi is Paul le Roux
Organic is probably an adjective he could have used to describe the development. Implying free of influence.
yes
Adam back
All I know for sure is that Satoshi isn't Craig Wright or Hal Finney. Hal Finney was a crucial part, while CR is a scammer. That leaves an unknown or Adam Back.
Len Sassaman.
We don’t know it wasn’t Hal. I think he and Szabo could have likely teamed up on it. What we do know is whoever it is, its not Craig lol
It’s Adam Back
yup, adam sure does know who!
It's John Mcfee
Adam Back
Adam Back.
lol they do know but not allowed to say because there was € guys who made the code and also made the code to xrp too
It was released in January 2009 just 3 months before the bottom of the stock market and the release of Swine Flu. Coincidence?
I wish Michael saylor would interview himself for a couple of hours again....
The words "we" and "us" are mentioned many times in the whitepaper.
i like to think satoshi exists on or in a digital realm of some kind
Thanks I got a split but I will listen to this podcast later thank you very much information is very helpful
Its adam back. Since ive learned to accept this fact ive been less drawn to btc and into xmr.
Lmao, the way he said to undermine it sounds just like Hex 🤣👌
Man in the The Great Cabin Enjoy!!!
Shout out sound and fury
If he/they can go completely unfound, that will go down in history….
Seems more plausible that it was done by more than one person other than the writer(s) of “How to make a mint: The cryptography of anonymous electronic cash”. I wish you would’ve asked Saylor his opinion on that paper from 1996.
The focus on currency was supposed to be simply to show that it too was just a digital asset. Blockchain on the other hand, is a tool in the fight against sophistry. And is so brilliant it may be divine in nature.
sounds like something a Bitcoin zealot would say, cult behavior 101
Never seen Michael Saylor speak at length before - he is the real deal.
He sat down with Pat Bet David as well recently
This is my favorite Michael Saylor video. He's allowed to talk virtually uninterrupted. ua-cam.com/video/49FhysfWX1M/v-deo.html
Who said he walked away?
I'm Satoshi, We are all Satoshi
No I’m George
I'm drunk, we're all drunk
I'm Satodhi 😆
Agreed
Except for Craig Wright
-3:03 he says certainly there is a satoshi
So, who receives all this money when you buy Bitcoin? And shouldn't Bitcoin have value on its own and not directly related to any currency?
Would love Saylor's thoughts on Dan Pena's view of B-Coin's future.
Pena is a turd
Look at the smile, he knows.
Why don't you interview David Schwartz? LEX
What I found super interesting is that if you translate Satoshi Nakamoto in Japanese it closely resembles Central Intelligence Agency. Clever.
Yeah, that'd be the first clue as to why it would not be the CIA. No SAP/black project done by an intelligence service is going to have anything that could even remotely hint at attribution in its name, particularly something discoverable by someone using Google translate.
If anything, Satoshi Nakamoto translating to something resembling "Central Intelligence Agency" points more towards a foreign adversary intentionally trying to achieve false attribution to the CIA. Though, I don't think that's likely, either.
@@notyetbitch666 lends to the theory that Putin created it. Just saying…
cleary u dont understand japanese at all
0:31 "Aeeemm" -> Lex thinking: "Damn I didn't prepare for a no."
Do you think Yonatan Sompolinsky played a role in the development of Bitcoin?
But is the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto knowable/verifiable? (I.e. if someone comes forward claiming to be Nakomoto, is there a way we can verify? Would there be some digital evidence that we can scrutinize?)
He can withdraw some of his crypto which will be available for everyone to see
I guess the only proof would be to have them move some of the original coins that Satoshi mined
Yea.
He could move .000001 or .0069420 of btc from one of the original blocks.
Just come on Twitter, say “watch this…. (.000069420) and move from an ancient wallet.
You can verify. The original creator could sign the first block with their original private key or provide a copy of the first winning hash generated.
Move some BTC from the 1st block, often referred to as the Genesis Block.
Maybe there is no satoshi nakamoto maybe satoshi is the friends we met all along
Who is Satoshi Seeyaiayekamoto? 🤔
It's probably Hal Finney, who went into cryo at Alcor a few years ago.
More likely Adam Back. Satoshi used British English.
For sure Hal finney. He tweeted in 2009 running Bitcoin.
I suspect that Dr Craig S Wright was the Project lead & Hal Finney does look like the lead Coder.
Len Sassaman.
Hals wife recently came out claiming that Hal helped satoshi but was not satoshi.
Its likely a group of people. Adam Back, Hal Finney and/or Wei Dai…
Wei Dai and Adam Back were the first two people contacted by “Satoshi Nakamoto” as he was developing Bitcoin in 2008, and the ‘b-money’ paper was referenced in the subsequent Bitcoin whitepaper.
something tells me if you pulled the wrong book out of that bookcase lex would fall down a trap door.
lol
Is Saylor talking about BTC or Ergo here? Sounds the same!
People found out he is Adam Back quite awhile ago. It’s pretty much confirmed.
I think its interesting that there almost no people with the name Satoshi Nakamoto. I only know of one. I think its either him or Japan, Usa or Russia.
So much rationalizing
I believe I am certain who founded Bitcoin and why I am so certain.
Its Phil Zimmerman who worked with Hal Finney
it was probably hal finney, he had email communications with satoshi in 2009, he could have been emailing himself. he got als in 2012 and died a few years ago. none of satoshi coins have moved, he went off grid at a similar time to hal getting als.
Not likely he apparently sold all his btc for medical treatment
@@tokenomics1233 his head is cryogenically frozen, and my guess is he’s got a little btc stored for the day he hopes to wake back up. IMO Hal and Nick Szabo are a good guess for who Satoshi is.
going with Nick Szabo nik zaabo - nakamoodo
One of the emails from Satoshi to Hal was when Hal was in the middle of a race. Occam’s Razor says it was not Hal.
Satoshi Nakamoto is an extra-terrestrial. They are subtely helping the human race.
Why is it that when white ppl cant claim to invent/build something then it must be extraterrestrials?
Bitcion, the pyramids...
@@neverleverland5685 I think they see how ridiculous that 7.7 billion humans control less than 10 percent of currency and that 300,000 people control the 90 percent. That makes humanity a joke. I think it's humans in the future sending this tool to us using cyberspace.
It was just John Mcafee.
@@navigator1819 So its backed by cocaine?
@@navigator1819 not even that guy could come up with blockchain. He was a wild man.
He is Adam back from London…
adam back
You and Richard Hart would be a amazing conversation. I think you could speak with him in a way others cant.
ew no, richard hart is a scammer, and he comes off as a prick irregardless of said scamming
We've heard enough from Richard Heart. Yea he thinks he created a project greater than Bitcoin and he wants all the fame for it. But he didn't. He wishes he did...but he didn't
@@jamesbuttery3862 id like to hear lex ask him questions on BTC
The media has a vested interest in not telling us who Satoshi is, because it means a loss of money from the cessation of "Who Is Satoshi?" articles.
Damn the moment he said Ideaology, I thought he was talking about IDEA
It’s Michael
I know who he is and no the money will never move.
The Winklevos brothers
This guy is it.
When you step back and away from it all, all is clearly seen as absurd.
*What would happen if Craig Wright wins the Copa Case in coming Jan 2024?
What?
It’s 2024, Craig Wright is a loser. Satoshi could be you or me, it is definitively not Craig Wright.
Satoshi, I am sure you are listening. Do a podcast with lexi.
maybe lex is satoshi and he's just trolling everyone with this fucking question
Maybe he already has...
How do we know Satoshi isn’t a nation state behind bitcoin?
And you think it'd be under wraps still if more than 2 people were involved in creating it. Smart🙋♂️
SAtoshi was US FEd reserve. A well kept secret
I want to make an app where people just share stories about how they saw Bitcoin ads on their PC in 2010-2015 and thought about buying but didn't.
Michael Saylor has a lot to teach you about being a Bitcoin Maximalist. One of the things that resonated with me is Bitcoin can't be manipulated or excessively printed like Fiat.
Isn’t it draco the legislator?
Greed and power will raise its head regardles of the type of currency.
Yes but at least we’ll be able to SEE the greed
Who the hell had that much bitcoin to sell him? Some giant exchange? Sadly, these giant exchanges exist.
Why do we always Satoshi Nakamoto represents a single person? Its entirely possible an anonymous organization could have facilitated Bitcoin. Food for thought.
Edit: ok they addressed it lol, first I've heard publicly discussed
Or even a country
NSA
kkk
You describe anonymous organizations somewhat non-chalant. Curious, how many may potentially exist?
..this is a final riddle, the one who solves it dies.... as such well never know
Imagine real Satoshi watching this and smiling all along.
It's gotta be David Schwartz... he has a patent for blockchain technology in the 80s when he was in college.
CTO of Ripple? Doubt it, Satoshi hated the idea of centralisation and Ripple's goal is to bridge the gap which satoshi deffo didnt want.
@@kieronwiltshire1701 That doesn't take away the fact he had the patent for DLT in 1988. And if you check out the most recent Satoshi E-mails released from the last few days he was quite complimentary of Ripple/Xrp.
He has been weighing the possibility of really needing to fight a war over BTC. He is in a mostly Impossible position, so bear with us as these determinations are made.
The irony lies in the fact that while the world population remains unaware of Satoshi Nakamoto's identity, they also participate in a fiat system where the central controllers remain anonymous. This dual lack of transparency highlights the contrast between the decentralized nature of cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin and the opaque structures of traditional
What's the middle name?
Adam back..
No the only way it’s fare is if everyone only gets one if you sell it you’re screwed.
Everyone gets bitcoin at the price they deserve. Either you’ve done your research or you haven’t
I think it's crazy that nobody has given the name of Satoshi yet. So these other well known guys who worked on the project, communicated with him through emails and received the first BTCs basically never knew who they were dealing with and never cared to ask or weren't spooked when not being answered if they did ask.
Another thing is that we can't be sure that Satoshi can't access the 1M+ coins anymore. What if he does one day.
Satoshi is a very expensive and competent set of self aware AI algorithms.
Exactly. The matrix had it all wrong. They get us with the carrot, not the stick.
We didn't have self aware AI until recently. The idea that there was an algorithm capable of generating obscene amounts of advanced technology that was then turned off seems irrational.
@@mg0 your premise is false. AI has been around since the 30s. The public is always the last to find out about the advancement of technologies.
@@emanuelherrerias4082 The turing machine was 1936. You are idolizing technological progress that doesn't exist and ignoring the stuff that is actually happening.
@@mg0 ok bud. All the best to you.
Sergatoshi Nazamoto
The only thing comparable to Bitcoin is Kaspa.
My educated guess: Foghorn Balderson.
Like it or not Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto
The spark, was, solving the "prisoner dilemma or double spend problem"
Satoshi knew no coding. The #NAKAMOTO group did coding to solve various needs.
Yeah he stopped talking about it and he wanted to leave.
Homeland security knows. The director said as much in a video while being interviewed.
3:18
Funny how Nakamoto Satoshi translates to Agency of National Security ...
He knows. He said “it was one person.” With a lot of conviction. Saylor has the secrets
No he said " I think it was one person"
@@didactica9326 No he didn't he made stated it was one person with certainty.
@@Storebrand_ I do agree Saylor "has the secrets" 😆 but he mumbled "I think..." and Lex spoke over him, its barely discernable
Saylor definitely knows who it is.
Nah
How would Satoshi even begin to prove to others he is who he says he his at this point? Original source code? Blockchain authentication?
Making a transaction with the original 1 million BTC on Satoshi's wallet would prove without a doubt anyone claiming to be him. Unfortunately, if Satoshi did perform a transaction, you can expect that the BTC market would crash in response because it means that there is someone who still has the ability to control ~5% of the BTC market.
The fact that Satoshi's 1 Million BTC has never moved in the past 13 years gives those who believe in it a more unfettered faith in the technology and the idea that it was created for the benefit of all, and not for the benefit of Satoshi.
move the bitcoin associated with the keys that are thought to be his...sure, wouldn't be 100% proof, but would sure be pretty convincing.
Sending a specific amount of BTC with a specific message to a specific address from Satoshi’s wallet would be the best proof.
He would prove it in a court of law, as he is likely going to do later on this year in 2022.
@@BrockNelson lol it has to be embarrassing to still believe Craig is Satoshi.