I have to correct the Kaiser: The MG42 was bloody accurate. I know that not only from sources but as an former MG3 gunner of the Bundeswehr. It's use with a bipod wasn't as you might imagine or have seen in movies. The MG42 gunner of a regular infantry squad fired short bursts of bullets aiming at a selected target. Continuous fire wasn't the main porpose. This was done on short ranges in defence mainly ("Sturmabwehrscheßen"). For such a situation the bipod could latched to the middle of the main frame. (The name for this was "Mittelunterstützung", literally "middle support" because the bipod supported the MG in the middle of the frame). That leads to the german meaning of "schwer" (heavy) and "leicht" (light) when it comes to weaponery in WW2. It didn't refer to the weigth of a thing but to its tactical task. The best example for this is the "Panther" which was a "medium tank" offically. But its weight was 44,5 to! The "Churchill" was about 40 to and nobody would call it a "medium" tank. By the way: The word "mittlerer" (medium) was an offical one but was often not used. The word "Kampfpanzer" meant "mittlerer Kampfpanzer" (medium tank). It was used that way because a medium tank was the common thing. The heavy or light tank was the one which needed a special name because of its special tactical tasks. Don't get me wrong. All that does not mean I think this is a bad bad review!
The German military in WW2 must be the most written about military force in the world. Despite which persistent myths about its equipment, tactics and misunderstanding of its terminology continue, especially in wargaming.
@@andysykes4328 I agree with you. But I think it is important to mention that there's no evidence at all that the Kaiser spreads myths. That's absolutly clear when he asks about german Tigers in Normandy later in the video. The fact: Not all german heavy Tank Battaillons in Normandy were part of the Waffen-SS. i.e. during "Goodwood" the 503rd heavy Tank Battaillon fought the british forces. But many heavy SS-Tank Battailons fought in Normandy. He is right when he mentioned the german high commands were always concerned about the ammunition consumption of german Machine Guns (MG42 AND MG34). The problem was that the german army was short of ammo, always, not only in the second half of the war. It was a problem of production. Sometimes there was an ammo restruction even. This made sense from a higher perspective but could be deadly on the tactical level.
Always willing to change my views in the face of new evidence. In the great many books I have read I have never come across the idea that the MG42 is an accurate weapon - any chance you can point me in the direction of a reliable source that does?
@@ModellingforAdvantageYou could read the Wiki article. It says nothing about accuracy in general but about the tactical use of the MG42 and accuracy. That's why I mentioned that. The main issue is not the rate of fire. The MG42 is an air cooled MG. An air cooled MG is never that good in sustained fire (except if put into an aircraft because of the wind). Air cooled machine guns made for short burst of fire. All of them. In the other hand i.e. all Maxim Machine Guns (and Variants) are made for sustained fire. They are superb for that Because they are water cooled. But these weapons have wo major issues. 1.) The weight. The gun itself is much heavier because it is not only the gun but support parts and a water reservoir. 2.) This water reservoir is can become another issue. If you run low in water the gun will stop shooting. If I remember correctly it is an episode from "All quiet in the Western Front" (the book) that the germans were pushed back by an attack except a small number of man gathering around a water cooled machine gun position. And before it runs out of ammo it runs out of water. So every soldier urinates in the water reservoir because their lifes depends on this. Last but not least, it must be noted that water-cooled machine guns have completely disappeared from the modern battlefield. And the godfather of all modern air cooled machine guns (i.e.the american M60) is the MG42.
Thank you for another great unboxing video! The background information the Kaiser gives on different subjects is the reason i watch video’s from MFA! Keep it up!
What the Kaiser said about the prize of the Sturmgeschützs is absolutly right. According to german historian Roman Töppel the prize (in late war) of a Sturmgeschütz was about 80,000 Reichsmark. The prize of the Tiger I was 300,000 Reichsmark.
The Heer fielded 11 Heavy Panzer Battalions, the 501 through to the 511. The SS had 3 heavy Panzer Battalions, the 101, 102 and 103. The confusion occurs because in ‘44 the SS battalions are renumbered to 501, 502 and 503. The same as the Heer units.
Glad y'all talked about the Italeri versus Warlord Wargaming Kit. The Italeri kits are always slightly more complicated and annoying versus the other models. I noticed this when I just did my Panzer III.
I'd say there's probably enough a market for plastic AT/AA guns and howitzers, since Rubicon Models have quite a lovely range of German ones and have started making some allied ones. I particularly like that they often tend to have optional gunshields, or alternative builds. For instance their PaK 38 has the option of being built with a modified french gun to make the PaK 97/38, great for minor axis powers!
I have this set and really like it, the only problem I've found is that you can only field either the Tiger or the StuG, not both at the same time, please correct me if I'm wrong with that comment. My daughter did buy me the Puma armoured car for Xmas, so I can field this with either tank if this is the case, great review guys, really enjoyed it, cheers.
Don't use both, or play in a really big battle. This set feels like the 'advanced starter,' as if they're assuming you're not jumping into the game with the SS, and so you'll have a transport or light vehicle of some kind.
In the campaign books there are more formation options - there is probably one you can have more than one tank with. You can also always take a 2nd platoon if you want more armour.
You can make 2 MMG from the basic SS infantry set. One squad of assault riffles and one with Sub machine guns 💪 throw in some panzer fists. Best kits in the game probably the best army’s in my opinion. Lucky 🍀 for Germany 🇩🇪 in bolt action we have agreed matched up balanced points values lol 😂
The Warlord Pak 40 is terrible to build, not to mention the barrels often have more bends than the spaghetti junction. Also dont outright trust their plastic kit instructions, they often have errors usually regarding the tracks and variant mistakes.
Nice unboxing, the historical chatter that is. Around the 50th minute, That was a good example of the hypocrisy of such ideologies, applies very much today as well sadly, it also weakens their own arguments.
Great kit for modeling, not a great kit for game purposes. Pak-40s can be rough since they are a lot of points and only get one shot: Devastate whatever they hit, but with a few pins on them, they are quite useless. Same goes for the tiger. Awesome model, not worth the points in game
As soon as you add points to a game, it inevitably ends up on efficiency of unit Vs cost. That said, pricing heavies off the table in a skirmish game, like Tigers, is kinda fine with me really. That said, Paks are pretty commonplace so should, perhaps, be better value.
The mauser with a stock was also called a Peter The Painter. Peter Piatkov was Latvian anarchist and artist and the was the gun he and his gang used to try and rob a jewellers in London in late december 1910. It all went wrong- two coppers were killed and three injured. The gang were tracked down by the Met police to a house in Sidney Street. The anarchists had better weapons and held off the police for six hours. The army were bought in and concentrated fire set the house on fire. The home secretary, Winston Churchill turned up to try to direct operations and he received criticism for this. They never identified the body of Peter The Painter and some believe he escaped. My mate is of the firm belief that Peter is David Beckhams great grandfather- if you look up images of Peter The Painter he does look remarkably similar.
I have to correct the Kaiser: The MG42 was bloody accurate. I know that not only from sources but as an former MG3 gunner of the Bundeswehr.
It's use with a bipod wasn't as you might imagine or have seen in movies. The MG42 gunner of a regular infantry squad fired short bursts of bullets aiming at a selected target. Continuous fire wasn't the main porpose. This was done on short ranges in defence mainly ("Sturmabwehrscheßen"). For such a situation the bipod could latched to the middle of the main frame. (The name for this was "Mittelunterstützung", literally "middle support" because the bipod supported the MG in the middle of the frame).
That leads to the german meaning of "schwer" (heavy) and "leicht" (light) when it comes to weaponery in WW2. It didn't refer to the weigth of a thing but to its tactical task. The best example for this is the "Panther" which was a "medium tank" offically. But its weight was 44,5 to! The "Churchill" was about 40 to and nobody would call it a "medium" tank.
By the way: The word "mittlerer" (medium) was an offical one but was often not used. The word "Kampfpanzer" meant "mittlerer Kampfpanzer" (medium tank). It was used that way because a medium tank was the common thing. The heavy or light tank was the one which needed a special name because of its special tactical tasks.
Don't get me wrong. All that does not mean I think this is a bad bad review!
The German military in WW2 must be the most written about military force in the world. Despite which persistent myths about its equipment, tactics and misunderstanding of its terminology continue, especially in wargaming.
@@andysykes4328 I agree with you. But I think it is important to mention that there's no evidence at all that the Kaiser spreads myths. That's absolutly clear when he asks about german Tigers in Normandy later in the video. The fact: Not all german heavy Tank Battaillons in Normandy were part of the Waffen-SS. i.e. during "Goodwood" the 503rd heavy Tank Battaillon fought the british forces. But many heavy SS-Tank Battailons fought in Normandy.
He is right when he mentioned the german high commands were always concerned about the ammunition consumption of german Machine Guns (MG42 AND MG34). The problem was that the german army was short of ammo, always, not only in the second half of the war. It was a problem of production. Sometimes there was an ammo restruction even. This made sense from a higher perspective but could be deadly on the tactical level.
Always willing to change my views in the face of new evidence. In the great many books I have read I have never come across the idea that the MG42 is an accurate weapon - any chance you can point me in the direction of a reliable source that does?
@@ModellingforAdvantageYou could read the Wiki article. It says nothing about accuracy in general but about the tactical use of the MG42 and accuracy. That's why I mentioned that. The main issue is not the rate of fire. The MG42 is an air cooled MG. An air cooled MG is never that good in sustained fire (except if put into an aircraft because of the wind). Air cooled machine guns made for short burst of fire. All of them.
In the other hand i.e. all Maxim Machine Guns (and Variants) are made for sustained fire. They are superb for that Because they are water cooled. But these weapons have wo major issues. 1.) The weight. The gun itself is much heavier because it is not only the gun but support parts and a water reservoir. 2.) This water reservoir is can become another issue. If you run low in water the gun will stop shooting. If I remember correctly it is an episode from "All quiet in the Western Front" (the book) that the germans were pushed back by an attack except a small number of man gathering around a water cooled machine gun position. And before it runs out of ammo it runs out of water. So every soldier urinates in the water reservoir because their lifes depends on this.
Last but not least, it must be noted that water-cooled machine guns have completely disappeared from the modern battlefield. And the godfather of all modern air cooled machine guns (i.e.the american M60) is the MG42.
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Broke me with the Manfred von Carstein lol
Yeah, Jonny is always good for throwing in a random comment like that - caught me off-guard. I wonder how many people recognised the reference.
Thank you for another great unboxing video! The background information the Kaiser gives on different subjects is the reason i watch video’s from MFA! Keep it up!
Glad you like it mate, we hope it is what makes our reviews different from many others.
What the Kaiser said about the prize of the Sturmgeschützs is absolutly right. According to german historian Roman Töppel the prize (in late war) of a Sturmgeschütz was about 80,000 Reichsmark. The prize of the Tiger I was 300,000 Reichsmark.
The Heer fielded 11 Heavy Panzer Battalions, the 501 through to the 511. The SS had 3 heavy Panzer Battalions, the 101, 102 and 103. The confusion occurs because in ‘44 the SS battalions are renumbered to 501, 502 and 503. The same as the Heer units.
Another Cracking Unboxing!
Thanks again!
Glad y'all talked about the Italeri versus Warlord Wargaming Kit. The Italeri kits are always slightly more complicated and annoying versus the other models. I noticed this when I just did my Panzer III.
Definitely.
I'd say there's probably enough a market for plastic AT/AA guns and howitzers, since Rubicon Models have quite a lovely range of German ones and have started making some allied ones. I particularly like that they often tend to have optional gunshields, or alternative builds. For instance their PaK 38 has the option of being built with a modified french gun to make the PaK 97/38, great for minor axis powers!
Another excellent look guys
Thank you! Cheers!
The really cool thing about those broom handled Mausers was that the stock was hollow and could be used as a holster for the pistol.
Ah right, that makes sense.
Ah cool, a quick unboxing vid
*55 minutes*
Oh baby the Kaiser is going to go off on one, nice nice nice
You know it!
Good review 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
I have this set and really like it, the only problem I've found is that you can only field either the Tiger or the StuG, not both at the same time, please correct me if I'm wrong with that comment. My daughter did buy me the Puma armoured car for Xmas, so I can field this with either tank if this is the case, great review guys, really enjoyed it, cheers.
Don't use both, or play in a really big battle. This set feels like the 'advanced starter,' as if they're assuming you're not jumping into the game with the SS, and so you'll have a transport or light vehicle of some kind.
In the campaign books there are more formation options - there is probably one you can have more than one tank with. You can also always take a 2nd platoon if you want more armour.
You can make 2 MMG from the basic SS infantry set. One squad of assault riffles and one with Sub machine guns 💪 throw in some panzer fists. Best kits in the game probably the best army’s in my opinion. Lucky 🍀 for Germany 🇩🇪 in bolt action we have agreed matched up balanced points values lol 😂
They certainly get all the toys!
The Warlord Pak 40 is terrible to build, not to mention the barrels often have more bends than the spaghetti junction. Also dont outright trust their plastic kit instructions, they often have errors usually regarding the tracks and variant mistakes.
Nice unboxing, the historical chatter that is.
Around the 50th minute, That was a good example of the hypocrisy of such ideologies, applies very much today as well sadly, it also weakens their own arguments.
All too true.
Hmmm Waffle, you guys make me hungry
Indeed.
Great kit for modeling, not a great kit for game purposes. Pak-40s can be rough since they are a lot of points and only get one shot: Devastate whatever they hit, but with a few pins on them, they are quite useless. Same goes for the tiger. Awesome model, not worth the points in game
As soon as you add points to a game, it inevitably ends up on efficiency of unit Vs cost. That said, pricing heavies off the table in a skirmish game, like Tigers, is kinda fine with me really. That said, Paks are pretty commonplace so should, perhaps, be better value.
Silly Sausage units
Indeed.
The mauser with a stock was also called a Peter The Painter. Peter Piatkov was Latvian anarchist and artist and the was the gun he and his gang used to try and rob a jewellers in London in late december 1910. It all went wrong- two coppers were killed and three injured.
The gang were tracked down by the Met police to a house in Sidney Street. The anarchists had better weapons and held off the police for six hours. The army were bought in and concentrated fire set the house on fire. The home secretary, Winston Churchill turned up to try to direct operations and he received criticism for this.
They never identified the body of Peter The Painter and some believe he escaped. My mate is of the firm belief that Peter is David Beckhams great grandfather- if you look up images of Peter The Painter he does look remarkably similar.