@@ohnojojo19 I didn't call it a flex I called it a slight flex 🤔 are you just one of those people who loves to be contrarian cuz I love to be positive I hope you have a nice day
J cole stans went from "Kendrick gonna get murdered by cole 😂" and "Kendrick fans going through the 5 stages of grief lmaooo" to now like "this world loves drama. Jermaine has always been about unity and love." And "battling isnt for everyone. He still the goat."
I'm coming back after Kendrick's disses Cole wanted it to be friendly competition, but I wouldn't be surprised if Kendrick told him in advance to step out cuz it was gonna get real personal It got much much deeper than friendly feud fr
I mean, it's like he said though. He already knew everyone from Dreamville was telling Cole don't do that shit. Cole even said it himself during the apology
Mann as a diehard, day one Cole fan this was low-key heartbreaking 😭. Feel like I went through the stages of grief 5 different times and I’m going on another time. Don’t know when I’ll get over this one.
Nothing to get over. The world is hyping this up more than it needs to be. I have a better time listening to cole now because i know he’s a great rapper and can still listen to his music without giving into the bullshit like everyone else
@@BRANDONLV13 lots of clowns who only like people because others like them. "I can't listen to his music anymore" why? Do people really think Kendrick is so hard ass gangster with the tough shit he be rapping? He's like 5'5 in high heels.
@@NotFinancialAdviceLOL for real bro. Every person who drags cole’s name through the mud is some kendrick fan who wants a war 😂 meanwhile there is no beef between the two so the apology dont really mean anything like the world wants it to.
@@BRANDONLV13 exactly. J Cole could definitely go toe to toe with Kendrick. I think anyone who thinks otherwise is really silly. J Cole is not and never was the type of guy to talk mad trash about another rapper.
@@timy9197he’s fraudulent about what he raps about. No one disputes his talent. He been asking for smoke and calling himself the greatest in every song and then folds when it truly mattered. That’s why he’s being called a fraud
@@timy9197cole been rapping like he was waiting on someone to diss him and then when it just so happened to be kendrick, now he wanna apologize…for fighting back like whatttt💀
Not when there’s artistry at that level, drake and meek don’t love music the same way as Cole and Kendrick. Cole threatened to shoot Kendrick, those are things you just can’t take back even if you’re cool again. Even if Cole didn’t mean it, he still said it. Cole dissed Kendrick’s catalogue, that would make Kendrick not trust Cole ever again so I see why he apologized.
@@Godloveszazabc its a cover up he jus scared asf that's all he stated for months he want all the smoke and thru shots Kendrick for yrs then he got it then he ducked he was scared that's it
@@Godloveszazanah it’s because he switching up on multiple of his recent track or features he’s talking about how he the goat and no one can fuck with him and then he folds after someone finally challenges him.
@@Gunner9585 people do a lot when their scared and you don't apologize unless you want the heat to die down imagine if Nas apologized after droppin either or Em after he dropped nail in the coffin, or ice cube after no Vaseline bro yes cole responded but he couldn't handle it which is the saddest shii bc Cole definitely could of went toe toe wit Kdot but he showed the world he don't stand on shii and will avoid any type heat that comes at him
Could Cole not call Kendrick and say "Hey this is just rap competition, nothing personal we still cool and I respect you as an artist." They could even set some ground rules like ay don't talk about my kids. If these guys are friends, go get that bag and give the world a show.
This would have stayed rap beef. Ain’t no way I could see a world where Kendrick and Cole actually about to go try to kill each other or bring up some crazy shit. It was all about who the best rapper is, and Cole put down his belt with no fight sad to see
I like that thinking for the world’s sake, however, there just doesnt need to be a competition. It only started when everyone was gassing the kendrick verse, which was fake as hell calling out a friend when there’s no beef
@@smokinAce245he said their the big three but he’s feeling like Muhammad Ali…that was never a diss to Kendrick…he feels like he’s the best just like Kendrick or drake would…but he still has them at the top
@@Rody-zx9to It was a roundabout way of saying me and Drake are the best. Kdot be happy you get 3rd place. Might not be a diss to you but it def was to Kdot. Why do you think he called them out?
@@Rody-zx9to he said that and K. said "prove it". We're all here on April 10th following the apology and ALLLLLLL the subs over the past decade about being counted as 3rd in the "big 3".. I'm sure you'll stand on "he started it first", but there's several times in the past 8 years, I 4k I might add, that he's(Jermaine) gone on record talking about this. What's worse is that he got caught up by proxy, K. was spazzing on Aubrey roach ass most of that verse.
If I was Kendrick, I would actually feel disrespected that a worthy opponent (or so we thought) would drop out of the fight like that but that’s just me
He more than likely wanted Cole to get out the way or get hurt. Cole thought it was a light hearted diss. Drake and Kendrick ain’t tryna see who’s the best lyricist…
@ptpsananas2301 here is what I don't get from drake haters If he is corny, weak and heavily relies on ghostwriters, then why tf are people ganging up on him? Pusha was by himself so was meek. It makes drake seem like a strong opponent 😂
I tell y’all right now, he can rap he’s a top dawg. I’m telling y’all right now. He knew it was more than just chivalrous bout. He realized Kendrick and Drake beef was hella personal and he didn’t have any personal beef with none. It made sense. His apology aged better than any wine. Not because he ain’t a GOAT and he ain’t a lyricists that can battle. But because this Kendrick v Drake beef was an old school type of beef.
i just can’t take what cole say seriously after backing down. when he talks about being the best mc & actually backs out when tested is a throw off. but as long as he ain’t rapping about being the best mc it’s cool he can rap about everything else. but it’s just rapping ain’t nothing serious just rap back man
Yeah he needs to go back to rapping about civil rights and shit. “if I smoke a rapper it’s gon be legit.” Apparently not. Listen, I commend Cole for wanting to maintain peace, but you can’t talk big and then call for peace afterwards. It’s hypocritical. He got himself in this jam. Should’ve never talked like he was the big dog in the first place. Show us don’t tell us.
Y’all are forgetting the fact that Kendrick never really came at cole (no diddy)…k. beef was always with Drake…cole caught one stray on the mf the big 3 line but that was it…so it never really made sense for cole to diss k. in the first place. Now you can argue that once he fired the shot he gotta stand on it, but I respect him being the bigger man here and doing what could essentially be reputation suicide
Back down? Jcole literally says if kendrick feels some kind of way then he can come at him. he knows he cooked kendrick and felt bad about it. As would anyone if they knew they might lose a friend over some internet bullshit. It only takes one bar for cole or kendrick to take it personally. I have a better time listening to cole now because i know his songs are good and wont buy in to this whole war thing and whos number one. It really dont matter that much
I've heard someone use the perfect analogy. It's like 2 boxers claiming they're the best, eventually they will have to beat each other up to see who is really the best but afterwards it's all love and respect. Even the loser gets respect for putting up a fight. But j cole really hyped the fight just to back out the last minute.
That analogy don’t work because you don’t have to have a rap battle to see who’s number one. That goes to the people’s judgment on their views of cole and kendrick as individual artists.
@@BRANDONLV13 battling is one of the cornerstones of hiphop so imo, that is absolutely one of the boxes to check if you want to be the best. Especially when you have multiple bodies of work where you say you are the best and no one can touch you.
@@Tuftur that doesnt mean a rapper must be ruthless. Rap is defined on bars, this aint boxing. If cole says hes the best, it doesnt matter if cole smokes kendrick in the rap battle because people will still have their own opinion about it. People still thought mgk won against eminem…… so the fact that cole said this initially is smart because he’s thinking ahead. It only takes one bar for cole or kendrick to take it personally and their friendship is ruined over some internet bullshit.
@@BRANDONLV13 do you watch smack or kodt or any battle rap? They take each others head off lyrically and after the battle there is just more respect for both parties. I get what your saying but hiphop is not the place for this soft stuff. I know for a fact this battle could get disrespectful and they would shake hands afterwards. But hey we all know what would've happened. Just listen to black friday.
Listen man, I love Cole. But he’s been talking about murdering your favorite rapper in literally every verse he’s done the last 5 years. How am I supposed to listen to that music now?
Bruh, J cole literally been beggin people to come at him and challenge him as the "top dawg" in his tracks. You can't ask for something then turn tail midst the battle and still claim to be the best, also we cannot even rely on Drake to do anything cuz we know he ain't that good and to smart for that 😭
This is false. He literally said that if he got into a rap battle "I'd never beef with a nigga for nothing', if I smoke a rapper it's gone be legit. It won't be for clout, it won't be for fame, it won't be cause my shit ain't selling the same, it won't be to sell you my latest new sneakers it won't be cause some niggas slid in my lane.." That's literally him saying he won't beef or do a diss track over petty shit. He obviously realized this was petty shit.
@archjones8187 Then he should have stood in the fact that Kendrick was coming at him over petty shit and put him in his place. Not drop a diss back, then apologize about it.
@@bittasweet1605He was peer pressured by the fans and his friends which is understandable. And he said he just wanted to jab back at him but the way it came out made it seem like he actually had a problem with him. Which he didn’t like.
@@archjones8187he also was saying no MC was equal to him when it came to prove that he folded there is no way around the Cole was afraid to prove his pen
Is it me or its weird that he calls a mixtape "might delete later" then it lives up to its name then since hes deleting the diss track. Then calls an album "the fall off" and low key lives up to its name too since alot people claiming he went down a tier in their list. Whats going on?!
J. Cole can be an amazing MC, he can create amazing music, and he can have his own legacy, but he cant rap about having smoke for other rappers now, or he can, but we have evidence he's not really about it. The one time someone chooses to test him, he doubles back on it
J Fold really bugged me with that one. Had he not responded, I'd have been happier to see him stand ten toes on not having beef or drama. It was just the act of responding then backing down that has me like why? Now Kendrick looks like the Rap Boogeyman and while I'm not against it, it didn't have to come from the controversy that Cole now has with this.
I was feeling so bad today and been crying all day because of a break-up, its been a year but you guys can always put a smile on my face❤❤. Keep it up RDC yall are the joy of many people
Keep it pushing bro you got this, I was crumbled and tunnel visioned like crazy after my relationship of 2 and a half years ended but just stay busy and keep out the mind!!!
There you go people RDC, Joe Budden, Rory and Mal, AK plus the rest of the concensus all agree I don't see any of them talking about "Good for jcole this beef is wack" or "He is really mature and peaceful" Cole really let his fans and Hip-Hop down.
Nothing... and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING was going to happen other than rap... Kenny and Jermaine are not Beans and Jada... this aint Von and FBG Duck... YB and Durk... Yo Gotti and Dolph (RIP)
I love Cole anyways. That's the right move that he made for his own peace of mind. I give him mad respect for not letting the industry pull strings on him
He ain’t scared, he just blatantly lied 😂 you can’t say TPAB is boring then drop a similar album a year later. You can’t say Kendrick’s discography is weak/lacking quantity but then say you just now surpassed him… Cole was saying shit he didn’t believe himself on that song and that’s why he backtracked. All that peace shit was a cop out..
He went about going at Kendrick the wrong way. He should have never talked down on his catalogue, he should have focused on the lack of output over last 5+ years or so. Cole has been smoking features and been way more present in the game than Kendrick, he should have used that angle to his advantage instead. Coming for Kendrick’s catalogue was nothing short of ridiculous 🤦🏾♂️
@@dretheman123 I mean he tried to use that angle, but then he also said he just surpassed him. So it’s a moot point bc it’s like the saying, “quality over quantity.” Like yeah, Kendrick ain’t been dropping, but Cole still felt as if he was behind over that 5 year stretch.. but like you said, Cole has been killing features, so maybe he could’ve expanded on being the Ali of the 3 without capping on Kendrick’s discography. That was wild af lol
Y’all are forgetting the fact that Kendrick never really came at cole (no diddy)…k. beef was always with Drake…cole caught one stray on the mf the big 3 line but that was it…so it never really made sense for cole to diss k. in the first place. Now you can argue that once he fired the shot he gotta stand on it, but I respect him being the bigger man here and doing what could essentially be reputation suicide
@@Footballazz he still went at him tho.. he said they were teaming up (3 switches), the walking w a stick line was for Cole, and obviously the Big 3 line. You’re right, he definitely had it out for Drake mainly, but he still had bars for Cole. It made total sense for Cole to respond, considering he called himself Ali of the 3 and he was claiming that nobody can mess with him in the rap game. You gotta stand on that. He wasn’t being the bigger man, he dropped a song full of lies he didn’t believe. But I guess he was noble enough to admit he did some lame shit so I’ll give him that.
@@thewhitechocolateprinceLOL Kendrick destroyed Cole bar to bar and even called himself the best while Cole was just saying slick ish about his skill 😂. No doubt Kendrick destroyed it, and if he went second it would have been even worse for Cole.
The deflection Lee did to put the heat on Ben was S tier. Lmfao mark IMMEDIATELY forgot about they conversation and started T’in up on Ben whyyyite side
@@andrebryant5081 Ben did it to himself when he defended that white guy with the blue lives matter on his truck. Those signals would set off a knowledgeable black person if you know the history
the main thing that strikes me is he didn't really even believe the things he was saying in that track and his fans were parroting those talking points. he didn't seem to like seeing that and so people spent a couple days saying "TPAB is boring" just cuz their fave said it and he didn't wanna stand on that, it doesn't even make sense coming from cole because as a rapper that cares about being lyrical nd the culture it's an album he probably really appreciated and more than likely inspired his direction for 4YEO.
A cease fire / timeout would’ve been much more beneficial for his career other then bowing out and praising the other artist at the same time calling his own work lame in front of his own festival
Lmfaoooo couldnt wait to hear what mark had to say im glad to hear everyone wasnt feelin that TPAB comment that was crazy to hear cole say plus i felt like him doin takeover style was setting him up to get ethered 😂😂
Thank yall for acknowledging the the dynamic between Kendrick and Drake. There’s real animosity between Kendrick and Drake and if Cole can’t manufacture tension then step to the side.
We live in an world where people LOVE drama.. Mark answered the question With nothing but respect.. if he would of said anything different the fans would of been quick to tell J Cole what he said 😂😂💯
I ain't mad at Cole. He said some shit he didn't mean. That takes man to admit when you said some shit u didn't mean, very publically. I'm sure he knew this would happen, but he did the right thing anyway.
Now everyone apologizing to J Cole. No cap, i never listened to his music. I listened to his diss and apology and that’s the extent of my Cole knowledge 😂 to be fair I don’t listen to Kendrick either. I did listen to the latest disses to drake and the no big 3, just big me diss and i was late to it all. I’m the young old ninja that prefers to listen to the classics like the Manhattans, Ojays, Prince, Luther Vandross etc. basically the GTA Vice City playlist is my vibe. Yall put some respect on Johnnie Taylor’s name!!! I listen to 70s-00s rock too
Neither Kendrick or Cole said anything that could even be considered flagrant to each other yet. But as much of a good guy Cole is, I think he knows Drake has some shit coming and that Kendrick has some shit coming and that they’re both probably loading up with some foul shit to take this somewhere Cole just doesn’t want to go to.
"This watch came from Drizzy, he gave me a gift Back when the rap game was prayin' I'd diss They act like two legends cannot coexist But I'd never beef with a nigga for nothin' If I smoke a rapper, it's gon' be legit It won't be for clout, it won't be for fame It won't be 'cause my shit ain't sellin' the same It won't be to sell you my latest lil' sneakers It won't be 'cause some nigga slid in my lane Everything grows, it's destined to change" -Middle Child He didnt want to start a real beef with Kendrick over some rap diss. He just want to stay on his path inner peace, and it was disrupted by the way his diss was perceived and received.
In the age of the internet I think it’s best not to react to everything so fast . Get all the information first and let it play out before we react emotionally
Mark is J Cole lawyer
Better call Mark😂
“You better lawyer up ASSHOLE”🗣️🔥🔥
Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
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@@askredditstudios8055jesus couldn't raise j cole from this
“If I coulda called Cole- well, I coulda, but I didn’t”
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Slight flex 💪🏿
Had to sneak that flex in 😂
@@acejaaay98i wouldn't call it a flex. they is semi-famous now
@@ohnojojo19 I didn't call it a flex I called it a slight flex 🤔 are you just one of those people who loves to be contrarian cuz I love to be positive I hope you have a nice day
RDC - Reverent Disciples of Cole
😂😂😂 you are foul
Nahhhhhhh 😂😂
Yoo
Got young thug's lawyer in the comment section lmao
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Who else was waiting for a skit minutes after seeing the apology?
It's why I'm here😂
I was ...😂
Me
Not me cuz he respect Cole too much lol
Mark LET US DOWN lmao
All I know is RDC better not EVER apologize to AMP for NOTHNG! #ItsJustBigRDC
#AvoidMarkPhillips
#DylanAndMarkSittingInATreeK-I-S-S-I-N-G
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@@YSleepishmarks gna find ur IP adress for this 😂
Fanum done taxed your common sense@@YSleepish
J cole stans went from "Kendrick gonna get murdered by cole 😂" and "Kendrick fans going through the 5 stages of grief lmaooo" to now like "this world loves drama. Jermaine has always been about unity and love." And "battling isnt for everyone. He still the goat."
thats so real 😭😭
the switch up is mad
📍folded.🤣🤣🤣🤣
I saw nighas become Buddhist in real time 🤣
Well hell yea 😭 you described ME nigga 😭 if yall was in our shoes gang??? You’d be on the same timing you gotta respect it 😭
saying hiphop isn't mature but called TPAB trash 4 days ago i hate mfs lmaooo
“Maybe it was more than that”
*it was more than that*
I'm coming back after Kendrick's disses
Cole wanted it to be friendly competition, but I wouldn't be surprised if Kendrick told him in advance to step out cuz it was gonna get real personal
It got much much deeper than friendly feud fr
It had to be. Because Kendrick definitely seems like he has targets and J Cole wasn't on it.
The fact that Mark could have called Cole but didn't shows how heartbroken bro was in that moment😭
Naw it was just not his place to say anything he's just a fan
I mean, it's like he said though. He already knew everyone from Dreamville was telling Cole don't do that shit. Cole even said it himself during the apology
Mann as a diehard, day one Cole fan this was low-key heartbreaking 😭. Feel like I went through the stages of grief 5 different times and I’m going on another time. Don’t know when I’ll get over this one.
Get over it jcole was always trash
Nothing to get over. The world is hyping this up more than it needs to be. I have a better time listening to cole now because i know he’s a great rapper and can still listen to his music without giving into the bullshit like everyone else
@@BRANDONLV13 lots of clowns who only like people because others like them. "I can't listen to his music anymore" why? Do people really think Kendrick is so hard ass gangster with the tough shit he be rapping? He's like 5'5 in high heels.
@@NotFinancialAdviceLOL for real bro. Every person who drags cole’s name through the mud is some kendrick fan who wants a war 😂 meanwhile there is no beef between the two so the apology dont really mean anything like the world wants it to.
@@BRANDONLV13 exactly. J Cole could definitely go toe to toe with Kendrick. I think anyone who thinks otherwise is really silly. J Cole is not and never was the type of guy to talk mad trash about another rapper.
Mark gotta help J Cole lawyer up, because he gonna need it to beat the fraud allegations.
“ you better lawyer up asshoole “
That’s not a real allegation lol everybody knows he can rap. People don’t know what fraud means.
@@timy9197he’s fraudulent about what he raps about. No one disputes his talent. He been asking for smoke and calling himself the greatest in every song and then folds when it truly mattered. That’s why he’s being called a fraud
@@timy9197cole been rapping like he was waiting on someone to diss him and then when it just so happened to be kendrick, now he wanna apologize…for fighting back like whatttt💀
Allegations?
Next episode of Life is Strange: Life is Cole🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Life is Fold
Life is sold😂😂😂😂
it's a cole world 😢
@@artnok927 😂😂😂😂
Life is apologies😂😂
“J Cole apologized”
“Jermaine?…cole?”
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bruh i just love looking at the new comments right now lmao
LOL
3 weeks later and that shit aged like fine wine
how? he apologised cos he said top 3 like what?
@@kamikoto1558 Cole’s crib not getting shot up 🥴 acting like K dot and Drake don’t have real beef
1:51 Mark had to add that subtle flex 😂
no cap 😭
Like damn ok markkk
Mann if drake and Meek were straight after all that beefing then Kendrick and J Cole woulda definitely been straight💀
Facts
Jay and Nas and the list continues
Yeah not even exaggerating he coulda bounced back now he just look washed
@@86SentraIt's all drama, it will die off.
Not when there’s artistry at that level, drake and meek don’t love music the same way as Cole and Kendrick. Cole threatened to shoot Kendrick, those are things you just can’t take back even if you’re cool again. Even if Cole didn’t mean it, he still said it. Cole dissed Kendrick’s catalogue, that would make Kendrick not trust Cole ever again so I see why he apologized.
Seeing where Drake & KDot are now with this battle, Cole did the right thing. True friendship is hard to find, protect your friendship.
Cole was better off losing than apologizing
Cole contradicts himself alot but how can one be against realization. Him apologizing is better than him beefing for our entertainment.
@@Godloveszazabc its a cover up he jus scared asf that's all he stated for months he want all the smoke and thru shots Kendrick for yrs then he got it then he ducked he was scared that's it
@@dahoodie3158but if he was scared he wouldn’t have dropped 7min in the first place.
@@Godloveszazanah it’s because he switching up on multiple of his recent track or features he’s talking about how he the goat and no one can fuck with him and then he folds after someone finally challenges him.
@@Gunner9585 people do a lot when their scared and you don't apologize unless you want the heat to die down imagine if Nas apologized after droppin either or Em after he dropped nail in the coffin, or ice cube after no Vaseline bro yes cole responded but he couldn't handle it which is the saddest shii bc Cole definitely could of went toe toe wit Kdot but he showed the world he don't stand on shii and will avoid any type heat that comes at him
that 20/20 hindsight crazy man
Could Cole not call Kendrick and say "Hey this is just rap competition, nothing personal we still cool and I respect you as an artist." They could even set some ground rules like ay don't talk about my kids. If these guys are friends, go get that bag and give the world a show.
They to real for gimmicks
This would have stayed rap beef. Ain’t no way I could see a world where Kendrick and Cole actually about to go try to kill each other or bring up some crazy shit. It was all about who the best rapper is, and Cole put down his belt with no fight sad to see
@@Stinkfly300Cole got no beef with Kdot. Never did. Drake brought Cole into it.
They are and I heard that happened
I like that thinking for the world’s sake, however, there just doesnt need to be a competition. It only started when everyone was gassing the kendrick verse, which was fake as hell calling out a friend when there’s no beef
5:00-5:08 if Kendrick don’t sample this and put it at the beginning of a diss track man
fax
Like seriously
And call the track, "So Many Different Ways" 🔥
He don’t know this community dikk sukka
Whats funny about they "apology" is kendrick didnt gaf about going at you. Bro why you apologizing, he started it lmao
You must've skipped 1st person shooter..
@@smokinAce245he said their the big three but he’s feeling like Muhammad Ali…that was never a diss to Kendrick…he feels like he’s the best just like Kendrick or drake would…but he still has them at the top
Saying we the Big 3 but me and Drizzy the Superbowl is a BACKHANDED COMPLIMENT! "We top 3, Kenny, just not top 2! Lol@Rody-zx9to
@@Rody-zx9to It was a roundabout way of saying me and Drake are the best. Kdot be happy you get 3rd place.
Might not be a diss to you but it def was to Kdot. Why do you think he called them out?
@@Rody-zx9to he said that and K. said "prove it". We're all here on April 10th following the apology and ALLLLLLL the subs over the past decade about being counted as 3rd in the "big 3".. I'm sure you'll stand on "he started it first", but there's several times in the past 8 years, I 4k I might add, that he's(Jermaine) gone on record talking about this. What's worse is that he got caught up by proxy, K. was spazzing on Aubrey roach ass most of that verse.
How the fuck did that turn into a Ben stray 😂😂
Apology aged well af
no? all he said was top 3. Kendrick beating drake doesn't change that lol
He really dodged a nuclear missile
@@kamikoto1558nga what are you talking about
Bro went from Muhammad Ali to Mahatma Gandhi 💀
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂 u funny bro
Lmaooo
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Smartest decision cole ever made in his life
I come back to this vid after what has happened over the last couple days....yeah he made the right call.
Mark literally sounds like us right now, he wanna defend Cole but can’t. We all can’t. It’s rough..
That's the spirit of hip hop inside you preventing it
If I was Kendrick, I would actually feel disrespected that a worthy opponent (or so we thought) would drop out of the fight like that but that’s just me
Nah Kendrick meant it when he said "big me", he knew JCold Feet and Mr.Ghostwriter dont belong in a Big 3 conversation.
He more than likely wanted Cole to get out the way or get hurt. Cole thought it was a light hearted diss. Drake and Kendrick ain’t tryna see who’s the best lyricist…
@ptpsananas2301 here is what I don't get from drake haters
If he is corny, weak and heavily relies on ghostwriters, then why tf are people ganging up on him? Pusha was by himself so was meek. It makes drake seem like a strong opponent 😂
@WitchYuki22 it onlt made him a strong opponent because of his platform but the rest is flat line
Angry poem writers fussing at each other is the alphabet people
J fold let us down with this one 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
J fold is insane 💀
Aw man j fold is evil
Big time smh
He did what I figured he would, knowing the kind of guy that he is.
Folded.. like a samsung flip phone
Love how aware yall are bout hanging with rappers. It ain’t them retweeting it’s the people fr. Real as hell in every way
Mark: Now when you put J Cole's catalogue with Kendrick Lamar's catalogue then you realize that his apology was actually perpendicular-
Yall need to do a skit now of J cole just chilling
i can’t blame bro no more😭
I tell y’all right now, he can rap he’s a top dawg. I’m telling y’all right now. He knew it was more than just chivalrous bout. He realized Kendrick and Drake beef was hella personal and he didn’t have any personal beef with none. It made sense. His apology aged better than any wine. Not because he ain’t a GOAT and he ain’t a lyricists that can battle. But because this Kendrick v Drake beef was an old school type of beef.
i just can’t take what cole say seriously after backing down. when he talks about being the best mc & actually backs out when tested is a throw off. but as long as he ain’t rapping about being the best mc it’s cool he can rap about everything else. but it’s just rapping ain’t nothing serious just rap back man
Yeah he needs to go back to rapping about civil rights and shit. “if I smoke a rapper it’s gon be legit.” Apparently not. Listen, I commend Cole for wanting to maintain peace, but you can’t talk big and then call for peace afterwards. It’s hypocritical. He got himself in this jam. Should’ve never talked like he was the big dog in the first place. Show us don’t tell us.
@@philip7833it’s so hard to listen to his competitive tracks after this
@@PurpleG07 yeah it’s the same concept as when trash talk goes wrong. It’s just not the same anymore
Y’all are forgetting the fact that Kendrick never really came at cole (no diddy)…k. beef was always with Drake…cole caught one stray on the mf the big 3 line but that was it…so it never really made sense for cole to diss k. in the first place. Now you can argue that once he fired the shot he gotta stand on it, but I respect him being the bigger man here and doing what could essentially be reputation suicide
Back down? Jcole literally says if kendrick feels some kind of way then he can come at him. he knows he cooked kendrick and felt bad about it. As would anyone if they knew they might lose a friend over some internet bullshit. It only takes one bar for cole or kendrick to take it personally. I have a better time listening to cole now because i know his songs are good and wont buy in to this whole war thing and whos number one. It really dont matter that much
Who won the battle? Kendrick or Drake?
Me: Cole
Man, my Top 3 isn't Top 3, no mo. KDOT is Big One Now.
Ok now what
Meat rider
Meatrider, but not because of what you said, just cause I'm a hater.
The Goat
JID would’ve been better replying to Kendrick than J Cole tbh
Actually true.
Baby Keem bodies JID, Kdot bodies Cole.
not ready to go against a yonko.
@@Knigghtlybaby keem bodies jid??!?!?!?
@@4yahwey275😂😂😂 he gotta be smoking cigs backwards
It's a Fold World. Pleaville. The Born Quitter. 2024 Forest Hills Hide
I've heard someone use the perfect analogy. It's like 2 boxers claiming they're the best, eventually they will have to beat each other up to see who is really the best but afterwards it's all love and respect.
Even the loser gets respect for putting up a fight. But j cole really hyped the fight just to back out the last minute.
He didn't wanna end up like erroll
That analogy don’t work because you don’t have to have a rap battle to see who’s number one. That goes to the people’s judgment on their views of cole and kendrick as individual artists.
@@BRANDONLV13 battling is one of the cornerstones of hiphop so imo, that is absolutely one of the boxes to check if you want to be the best. Especially when you have multiple bodies of work where you say you are the best and no one can touch you.
@@Tuftur that doesnt mean a rapper must be ruthless. Rap is defined on bars, this aint boxing. If cole says hes the best, it doesnt matter if cole smokes kendrick in the rap battle because people will still have their own opinion about it. People still thought mgk won against eminem…… so the fact that cole said this initially is smart because he’s thinking ahead. It only takes one bar for cole or kendrick to take it personally and their friendship is ruined over some internet bullshit.
@@BRANDONLV13 do you watch smack or kodt or any battle rap? They take each others head off lyrically and after the battle there is just more respect for both parties. I get what your saying but hiphop is not the place for this soft stuff. I know for a fact this battle could get disrespectful and they would shake hands afterwards. But hey we all know what would've happened. Just listen to black friday.
Listen man, I love Cole. But he’s been talking about murdering your favorite rapper in literally every verse he’s done the last 5 years. How am I supposed to listen to that music now?
Bruh, J cole literally been beggin people to come at him and challenge him as the "top dawg" in his tracks. You can't ask for something then turn tail midst the battle and still claim to be the best, also we cannot even rely on Drake to do anything cuz we know he ain't that good and to smart for that 😭
This is false. He literally said that if he got into a rap battle "I'd never beef with a nigga for nothing', if I smoke a rapper it's gone be legit. It won't be for clout, it won't be for fame, it won't be cause my shit ain't selling the same, it won't be to sell you my latest new sneakers it won't be cause some niggas slid in my lane.."
That's literally him saying he won't beef or do a diss track over petty shit. He obviously realized this was petty shit.
@@archjones8187 True
@archjones8187 Then he should have stood in the fact that Kendrick was coming at him over petty shit and put him in his place. Not drop a diss back, then apologize about it.
@@bittasweet1605He was peer pressured by the fans and his friends which is understandable. And he said he just wanted to jab back at him but the way it came out made it seem like he actually had a problem with him. Which he didn’t like.
@@archjones8187he also was saying no MC was equal to him when it came to prove that he folded there is no way around the Cole was afraid to prove his pen
ppl were saying mark was caping for j cole, wholetime j cole a fucking genius
Damn retrospective this got it all right!!
Is it me or its weird that he calls a mixtape "might delete later" then it lives up to its name then since hes deleting the diss track. Then calls an album "the fall off" and low key lives up to its name too since alot people claiming he went down a tier in their list. Whats going on?!
aye hollon u might be cookin sum
He didn’t realize the power of manifestation…
And Kendrick saying you got till April 7th to get your ish together then 7 years later j cole apologized on April 7th....
The truth is out there 🤯
definitely sounds planned. He might be planning retirement. Kinda reminds me of Michael Jackson's last tour being called "this is it"
👃nah yall cookin' frfr
"I might bend a little bit, but i don't fold"-Jermaine Lamar Cole, 03' Adolescence, 2014 Forest Hills Drive.
This is a testament to the level of legend of Kdot
Facts!!
True but these other rap niggas just soft 😂😂😂
J. Cole can be an amazing MC, he can create amazing music, and he can have his own legacy, but he cant rap about having smoke for other rappers now, or he can, but we have evidence he's not really about it. The one time someone chooses to test him, he doubles back on it
Bro is the one that started it too 😭
Yeah this is my thoughts as well
I don't think I've ever seen a lyricist fumble this bad. Rap hasn't been this interesting since MGK vs Eminem imo.
@@blackogjesusfor you
Yes yea ok
Been WAITING on this one 😂 Cole really took himself out the goat discussion in 2 mins. It's crazy
He was never in it.
@@bofi1280 dayum...you gon do him like dat huh
@@bofi1280 true
Y’all are just overreacting
@timy9197 he still top 3 but he'll never be considered #1 again
Right I been waiting for skits and all that
J Fold really bugged me with that one. Had he not responded, I'd have been happier to see him stand ten toes on not having beef or drama. It was just the act of responding then backing down that has me like why? Now Kendrick looks like the Rap Boogeyman and while I'm not against it, it didn't have to come from the controversy that Cole now has with this.
I'm a Cole fan but I'm just irked right now
Facts they have a 5'5 man looking like the scariest thing in rap
@@andrebryant5081 Deadass
@@andrebryant5081that cant be real no way kendrick 5'5 bro deadass a goblin
@@geezerschrist3447 Kendrick is like 2 inches taller than my wife. lol Mf stopped growing at like 14 years old.
I was feeling so bad today and been crying all day because of a break-up, its been a year but you guys can always put a smile on my face❤❤.
Keep it up RDC yall are the joy of many people
Keep it pushing bro you got this, I was crumbled and tunnel visioned like crazy after my relationship of 2 and a half years ended but just stay busy and keep out the mind!!!
You gonna be stronger
1:45 after the way Kendrick came at Drake everyone let it go against JCole immediately
There you go people
RDC, Joe Budden, Rory and Mal, AK plus the rest of the concensus all agree I don't see any of them talking about "Good for jcole this beef is wack" or "He is really mature and peaceful" Cole really let his fans and Hip-Hop down.
5:20 no way Mark is having his own j Cole apology 😭🤣 that video was heat don't say you didn't wanna drop it now
Which video?
@@buunyyhopp They made a vid about the Cole diss and apology but never released it
@@ReaIities i thought they released the vid then deleted it or smthn from the og comment
@@buunyyhopp nah they never released a j cole vid about this situation
Why didn't he make a j Cole diss video lol
Went from ”it’s a personal album” to “it’s a personal discography”
J.Cole went from gloating his rap championship belt calling himself Muhammad Ali to folding turning into Roberto Duran saying “No Mas” 💀🤣
roberto duran is a goat tho put respect on his name he is top 5 at first
This aged so well damn 💀
no? all he said was top 3. Kendrick beating drake doesn't change that lol
Turns out J Cole made the right call
7:29 Illuminati got tired of Mark's yapping and told him "you did enough" 😂
This video has changed in retrospect now huh ?
This the first time in a while since Ive been clicking links fast as hell. Had to see wtf RDC had to say bout this shit 😂
PR trained
Nothing... and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING was going to happen other than rap... Kenny and Jermaine are not Beans and Jada... this aint Von and FBG Duck... YB and Durk... Yo Gotti and Dolph (RIP)
I love Cole anyways. That's the right move that he made for his own peace of mind. I give him mad respect for not letting the industry pull strings on him
That boy done turned into “Mr.Morale” himself .
Went from talking about how sorry J cole is to ben getting hoed. Classic
J Cole is out of the goat convo
J Cole: AHH , Im WAY OVER MY HEAD
Y’all meat ridin
Nah that convo is always revolving door. I would say more of Fall Off better be one of them ones.
If J Cole is out so is Drake for having writers
He ain’t scared, he just blatantly lied 😂 you can’t say TPAB is boring then drop a similar album a year later. You can’t say Kendrick’s discography is weak/lacking quantity but then say you just now surpassed him… Cole was saying shit he didn’t believe himself on that song and that’s why he backtracked. All that peace shit was a cop out..
These are the facts people are looking over.
He went about going at Kendrick the wrong way. He should have never talked down on his catalogue, he should have focused on the lack of output over last 5+ years or so. Cole has been smoking features and been way more present in the game than Kendrick, he should have used that angle to his advantage instead. Coming for Kendrick’s catalogue was nothing short of ridiculous 🤦🏾♂️
@@dretheman123 I mean he tried to use that angle, but then he also said he just surpassed him. So it’s a moot point bc it’s like the saying, “quality over quantity.” Like yeah, Kendrick ain’t been dropping, but Cole still felt as if he was behind over that 5 year stretch.. but like you said, Cole has been killing features, so maybe he could’ve expanded on being the Ali of the 3 without capping on Kendrick’s discography. That was wild af lol
Y’all are forgetting the fact that Kendrick never really came at cole (no diddy)…k. beef was always with Drake…cole caught one stray on the mf the big 3 line but that was it…so it never really made sense for cole to diss k. in the first place. Now you can argue that once he fired the shot he gotta stand on it, but I respect him being the bigger man here and doing what could essentially be reputation suicide
@@Footballazz he still went at him tho.. he said they were teaming up (3 switches), the walking w a stick line was for Cole, and obviously the Big 3 line. You’re right, he definitely had it out for Drake mainly, but he still had bars for Cole. It made total sense for Cole to respond, considering he called himself Ali of the 3 and he was claiming that nobody can mess with him in the rap game. You gotta stand on that. He wasn’t being the bigger man, he dropped a song full of lies he didn’t believe. But I guess he was noble enough to admit he did some lame shit so I’ll give him that.
Its kinda crazy looking at all these videos now after drake and kendrick beef and now drake's house got shot up
Kendrick turned Cole into a preacher, had him copping pleas, and giving a speech like MLK Jr
now y’all see cole is right, y’all all owe mans an apology
They changed the topic from J.Cole. mad quick for the rest of the video LOL
It was half the video
This is Hip Hop!
If you say you're the best, you have to stand on it.
Damn what's crazy it's good j Cole drop out he saw that shit was going to get messy and it did indeed get messy
Rdc is always dropping on time
J Cole folded crazy
You next
J Fold
@melu0o without a doubt j. cole murdered alright better than k. dot rapped on tale of two citiez
J Cole - Foldin clothes
@@thewhitechocolateprinceLOL Kendrick destroyed Cole bar to bar and even called himself the best while Cole was just saying slick ish about his skill 😂. No doubt Kendrick destroyed it, and if he went second it would have been even worse for Cole.
“Hell nah I’m 2/3rds black👿” “that don’t even sound right😒” bro I swear Leland be having me dead 😂😂😂
The deflection Lee did to put the heat on Ben was S tier. Lmfao mark IMMEDIATELY forgot about they conversation and started T’in up on Ben whyyyite side
Which is ironic because Mark would never mention J Cole white side
@@andrebryant5081 facts
@@andrebryant5081 Ben did it to himself when he defended that white guy with the blue lives matter on his truck. Those signals would set off a knowledgeable black person if you know the history
the main thing that strikes me is he didn't really even believe the things he was saying in that track and his fans were parroting those talking points. he didn't seem to like seeing that and so people spent a couple days saying "TPAB is boring" just cuz their fave said it and he didn't wanna stand on that, it doesn't even make sense coming from cole because as a rapper that cares about being lyrical nd the culture it's an album he probably really appreciated and more than likely inspired his direction for 4YEO.
bro was conflicted
Missusing his influence
A cease fire / timeout would’ve been much more beneficial for his career other then bowing out and praising the other artist at the same time calling his own work lame in front of his own festival
Lmfaoooo couldnt wait to hear what mark had to say im glad to hear everyone wasnt feelin that TPAB comment that was crazy to hear cole say plus i felt like him doin takeover style was setting him up to get ethered 😂😂
Thank yall for acknowledging the the dynamic between Kendrick and Drake. There’s real animosity between Kendrick and Drake and if Cole can’t manufacture tension then step to the side.
They Both Can Rap & We Know This. They Should Just Do The Joint Album & Let Us Decide Who's #1. 🤷🏾♂️
We live in an world where people LOVE drama.. Mark answered the question With nothing but respect.. if he would of said anything different the fans would of been quick to tell J Cole what he said 😂😂💯
We live in a world of soft people like yourself
dude predicted the future lol
I'm watching last night's Twitch stream right now. 😁
J Fold
I ain't mad at Cole. He said some shit he didn't mean. That takes man to admit when you said some shit u didn't mean, very publically. I'm sure he knew this would happen, but he did the right thing anyway.
Now everyone apologizing to J Cole. No cap, i never listened to his music. I listened to his diss and apology and that’s the extent of my Cole knowledge 😂 to be fair I don’t listen to Kendrick either. I did listen to the latest disses to drake and the no big 3, just big me diss and i was late to it all. I’m the young old ninja that prefers to listen to the classics like the Manhattans, Ojays, Prince, Luther Vandross etc. basically the GTA Vice City playlist is my vibe. Yall put some respect on Johnnie Taylor’s name!!! I listen to 70s-00s rock too
Way I see it is people are mad he didn't give them drama like they wanted, I think he's in the right
Neither Kendrick or Cole said anything that could even be considered flagrant to each other yet. But as much of a good guy Cole is, I think he knows Drake has some shit coming and that Kendrick has some shit coming and that they’re both probably loading up with some foul shit to take this somewhere Cole just doesn’t want to go to.
This comment aged like fine wine 🍷
Bro hiphopheads about to make a whole thread dedicated to this vid 😭
J COLES LAWYER:
"This watch came from Drizzy, he gave me a gift
Back when the rap game was prayin' I'd diss
They act like two legends cannot coexist
But I'd never beef with a nigga for nothin'
If I smoke a rapper, it's gon' be legit
It won't be for clout, it won't be for fame
It won't be 'cause my shit ain't sellin' the same
It won't be to sell you my latest lil' sneakers
It won't be 'cause some nigga slid in my lane
Everything grows, it's destined to change"
-Middle Child
He didnt want to start a real beef with Kendrick over some rap diss. He just want to stay on his path inner peace, and it was disrupted by the way his diss was perceived and received.
I would say Kdot and Drake beef is pretty serious 😅
In the age of the internet I think it’s best not to react to everything so fast . Get all the information first and let it play out before we react emotionally