How Blade Is OP Without Power Creeping The Game | Honkai: Star Rail
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2023
- With Version 1.2 update being released we now have access to our first widely accessible 5 star Destruction character: Blade, who revolves around sacrificing his own HP to inflict heavy damage. I wanted to go through his kit's design and how I think it's a great way to make another DPS unit on par with Seele without power creeping the game.
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*A year later*
Vars: why no one plays blade
Edit: Well. Cant believe it happened. Vars owes me a hundred bucks
If this happens, I'm giving you a hundred bucks.
xD
@@VarsIIno shot he isnt getting one eventually
Gonna come back here after a year lmao
@@razergarcia6323 marking my calenders rn pls remind me
Honkai Star Rail Characters Ranked by only their names
Arlan in a tier let’s go!
(Pela)geya Sergeyevna S-Tier baby let's goooo🎉🎉🎉
Asta and arlan being at the top
DanHENGGHHH 🥵 top tier
fr bro imagine being 'hook'ed on deez nuts. I propose a separate tier for names that can be used for deez nuts jokes
Keep in mind that he also makes use of the HP stat which means a lot of the pieces you farmed for other units (since the wind set is kinda broken and is really strong for most supports in the game) can go on him. Its usually the case for HP units, but still nice to find somewhere to put those pieces that were previously almost perfect.
No throw that out of your mind. While he can use 2p Wind 2p hp, 4p new set is just way better. Also u'll be farming the new domain bc of the speed set anyway
@@derbionatorstyle3421 Yes you are right that the set is optimal for Destruction characters and supports will be wanting the new set probably as well. However, up till right now that's what people have been doing. So new farming will convert over to that, but right now those that were focusing on the wind set will be able to use it for right now. The switch won't be instant and it will also depend on whether they want to optimize one character when they have a usable set ATM or if they want to get more character online. The latter is the likely case and people will circle back to this once they have rounded out rosters.
@@joshsolders5543 yes for immediate usage I agree
Nope, has his own set.
@@derbionatorstyle3421nope you people don’t understand I don’t know for sure if honkai relic work as the same of the artifacts or genshin but the probability of getting hp% is higher making him a easier character to build even if you have to build his own set
Honestly love blade's design its so cool and seems very interactive to play, pretty bad auto play wise but if you're controlling the game it feels fun. It's like always being on edge trying to manage his health but at the same time seeing big damage numbers in a flashy animation way. I'm actually curious on how they gonna deal with kafka now, I just realize how underwhelming she would be if her attack doesn't crit DOT damage after seeing blade
Auto is easy when you have Luocha hehe
he's got a really good auto, other than the universal issue of ulting 1hp enemies. His auto is prolly one of the best rn.
they gonna make kafka mid, coz they know she will sell regardless.
@@someoneinasiathis is so true LMFAO
Those who never use auto anywhere:
No doubt he's going to be a popular character to get both for gameplay meta and husbando reasons.
Now it remains to be seen how his sales would be affected by having Kafka just right around the corner.
In terms of gameplay he's way more useful but kafka is just too damn hot.
@@demilade3260exactly I hate dot it’s sucks but blades play style is cool af but I have to skip him for her(she’s hot)
@@bazah23 actually I've loved DoT ever since I used hook and sampo in the simulated universe. I know that SU makes everything easier but it still opened my eyes to how useful DoT can be. You should try a DoT focused team at least once just to be sure. There's no point in getting a hot character if you never use them.
@@demilade3260 I will force my self to use a dot team for her I get used to things easily so it’s not a big problem
Blade isn’t my type so I’m going for mommy. Plus I like dot team so she fits nicely in my team.
The thing I like about blade vs hu tao is that blade doesn’t suffer from healing and being at full HP like hu tao does, because his dmg is simply based on HP lost and not current HP which was making me unsure if I rather pull for him or kafka, I currently have seele and was looking for a multi target DPS so winning on 50/50 was a truly a blessing!!
Blade is definitely a character I'll be getting on his rerun (and also Silver Wolf). I wasn't too keen on his character at first since we barely saw him up until this update, but now he's slowly growing on me. If Kafka literally wasn't the next banner, I would've tried pulling, but I have been locked onto Kafka since first sight. The only reason I let myself get Jing Yuan was 'cause I knew I'd have time to save up for guaranteed Kafka.
Blade is what Dehya should be
I use blade as my tank/sub dps and add a hunt as my burst dmg it's suprisingly very effective cuz blade aoe is so nice to chunk summon while ny hunt can take out the main boss (i swap around depending on weakness)
Maaaan I wish we knew more about 5 star Dan Heng so I could know if it's worth it to grab Blade or keep saving for him. I've been saving for 5☆Dan Heng since he was leaked but I'm so tempted for Blade now
Give Honey Hunter a bit of time and then you should be able to look up his kit
both have different playstyles as blade barely uses skill points while IL uses a lot of skill points. Pull for whoever you like and make your decisions with your current characters in mind. IL is also imaginary and there is no imaginary dps atm so pulling him will also bring a lot of value.
Dan heng IL is very points hungry in order to do his maximum dmg (iirc he can consume up to 4 skill points on a single of his turn) so if you dont have a very skill point free team to use him with that's going to be his major drawback
Thanks for the advice everybody, I think I'll pull for him anyway because I've been excited for his release for a while and already have a lot of things saved for him. Thank you all!
just think of imaginary danheng as a bravery default unit, uses skill points to deal more dmg
May all blade wanters be blade havers !
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I really love how every character feels so mechanically distinct, even when sharing the same path. Hell, we got two preservation ice characters who even feel extremely different.
I can see future design space for other characters, like maybe a stance shifting destruction or more that give you an ult choice like the destruction trailblazer, or skill stack like qingque, or an HP draining destruction, and more
Maybe also another nihility that inflicts an omni-weakness, but with the catch of only for one or some other fixed number of attacks.
I adore the mechanical designs so far.
so glad i got him early pity so now i finally have 2 dps characters for moc especially being 2 good ones
I have a feeling this guys will be good in the long run considering how HP and DEF can help a ton since we cant dodge, and his self healing along with a healer will do wonders. This guy can take so many hits despite being so low on HP most of the time.
I'm saving for the quantum tank, will pull a little bit if I could snipe Kafka, even though I have no team for her.. Also I'm not doing moc, so not really pressured on getting meta units.. May all Blade wanters get him
Cannot wait to test him out today
i avoided all the leaks about his kit but now that he's out and i played his trial, I WANT HIM SO BAD ToT he seems so so fun to play and i need a good wind character and overall the character appeal too goddamn why did i try pulling for luocha's cone i would have saved so many tickets ToT
i have been saving for both blade and kafka and i haven't rolled since the very beginning. I was chilling on 230 summons by the time blade rolled around with guarantee on first 5 star. I will also get kafka cuz the chance of getting 70 more summons in half a month is pretty high.
@@konabos747 ahhhhh you're so lucky! i pulled jing yuan + his signature and luocha, i'm very happy with them and my e1 fully built welt (with his light cone) but i'm also falling into the gacha trap of wanting more characters hehe
@@nyakawaiidesu412 i wouldn't exactly say lucky cuz it still took like 80 summons to get blade. I just knew who I wanted and saved accordingly and ignored everyone else.
How did you avoid the kit of a character that was in beta for a year?
@@kirin1230 A lot of people, such as myself, had no contact with the footage from beta or informations about the game until it came out or until they saw Kafka.
I’m skipping Imbibitor Lunae but I get a feeling I will love destruction characters due to their unique mechanism and high damage.
I also get a feeling they will be expensive since they require specific teams to unlock their full potential 😂
Im personally hoping to hear your thoughts on Clara opposed to Blade with both being Destruction 5 stars who have decent tankiness
I feel clara doesnt really play the same role as blade, you can run her with another main dps and be fine because clara has her ult to attract attacks and damage reduction with the added bonus that her counter is very strong while blade would act more as a main dps. I dont have her but my brother does and id have to imagine she just synergizes with different characters
They're kinda similiar.
Main carry Clara? Yes here we go. Luocha Clara Yukong Tingyun, currently my go to team i can even auto last MoC 10 with 5 cycle.
i even try Duo Clara Luocha herta shop lightcone E1 and non signature luocha and still clear albeit it slow like 11 cycle.
Can also use sub dps/hybrid clara which i personally only use for farming as she just like blade is sp efficient even on auto.
He looks like an awesome and pretty fun character to play with, definitely the first i'll be looking for a rerun, sadly all my savings rn are going for kafka, gotta spend it all on the DOT queen
I'm with you brother, I'm doing my best to not spend on banners as long as possible
How I'd like to summarize Destruction Path
Not as Prone of getting killed like Hunt
Deals more damage than Erudition and sometimes even easier Follow Ups
While having almost the same durability like Preservation or Longevity of Abundance depending on the Unit
Proceeds to power creep jingyuan in aoe damage
"bruiser" or "juggernaut" fits well, though clara is the only one that really fits "juggernaut"
i wish there were more bruiser and defensive designs and less selfhurt designs, feels overdone with how many are coming now/soon
Erudition f'ing sucks right now, it's just a worse destruction.
@@hihigocatWhat's the point of a tanky DPS without self hurt though? If you just want a defensive character, we have preservation.
This video came out at the same time litterly the same time for the Genshin and Star Rail daily reset
I regret not getting Luocha. I wanted to get Blade, Kafka and IL Dan Heng, but well…that’s 3 5 stars in a row. I’ll definitely be saving for his rerun though, and then I’ll have an easier time mowing down enemies, the only difference being that I would now have serviceable artifacts.
Your videos butter My biscuits thank you
He's so fun to play.
He is 100% powercreeping lol
sadly i think although i NEED a wind dmg dealer for my account, i neither have bronya or loucha and i will not be pulling for his signature light cone that has been told his best option...a shame although he gives me the same Xiao vibes
I flat out disagree with the statement at 1:50 and I find it hilarious that Gepard was one of the examples used. VERY EARLY ON (literally first few days of full release) people knew Gepard can solo sustain a whole team and that pairing a healer with Gepard is overkill. That set the precedent that the strongest teams will be ones that can get away with one sustain unit.
Now we have Luocha, who is basically the Abundance equivalent of Gepard. We know for a fact he can solo sustain teams in all end game content. Bailu also makes a close second to Luocha, with her also being known for being able to solo sustain. People have even found Natasha can solo sustain until very late MoC.
I don't think there was ever a time where people thought having two defensive units in a team would be optimal. People knew since the beta days that we will likely only have one defensive unit per team, so I find this statement blatantly false and purely based on conjecture.
Isn't that just for the first few days though? Since we're talking about meta, then the MOC is probably the reference here and people realized after like 2 weeks that Gepard can't solo sustain in MOC without his sig lightcone, especially if you're F2P and lacks good relics on him.
Even with his taunt and an ER rope, you'll still need to use his skill to get his ult back (which we don't really want since we prefer non-damage-focused characters to be SP-positive). It doesn't help that he has a low speed compared to the hunt characters he's mostly trying to protect. Some hunt characters have something which causes them to gain speed buffs too so they might even lose their shield sooner than expected.
Also, one of the most common duos in-game is literally FireTB-Natasha. A lot of people considered them to be perfect together and will save your team if you're F2P. If you also looked at teams' usage rates, some of the teams with higher usage rates even used both Gepard and Natasha.
While people who actually know how to manage their characters agree that Luocha can self-sustain, even he got hate that he won't be able to sustain the team without a tank due to his low defense.
@@NotMe-rb1js I literally cleared MOC 30 stars yesterday with lvl 70 Gepard with lvl 70 Landau's choice. He has Lvl 12 relics and purple lvl 9 ER rope. So even with extremely low investment (shield size is 1988) he can easily solo sustain without any trouble
its not optimal but its more comfortable cuz lemme remind u building teams in hsr is pretty tedious
Watching this as of february 2024, and god, some of the things you said sent shivers down my spine. But this held up suprisingly well, Seele is still an extremely good character and Blade is useful as a sub DPS in Jingliu comps, just that you now use a tank *or* a healer not a tank and maybe a healer
the only thing that stops me from getting him is that his light cone options are too niche lol, even Clara's lightcone sucks when put on him so you have two only options
what are the two options?
His lightcone or secret vow
Arguably mutual demise is also pretty good for F2P. Ofc, his LC is still superior
Akwardly you can use his lightcone on Clara
@@kaizerk4321t kind of because Clara benefit from almost every stats outside of effect hit rate. She is the tank so hp and def are great, she is a dps so ATK, CD, CR, Break effect, speed are great. She just work well with any stats.
I guess what it mostly comes down to is whether you like SWORDS or GUNS more.
Blade is Insect Web Curio: the character
(it's the one that buffs attack while eating your current% hp)
Yeah, he's like that
I used 40+ pulls on him and only got a Bronya Eidolon. Now I don't know if I should just guarantee Blade or Inhibitor Lunae. I'm depressed cuz it's the first 50/50 I've lost in this game. At least it's a really OP Eidolon but still. Red Flag daddy
I got him on my first 10 pull just like selee, but then again that makes up for my luocha and Jing Yuan shaft
I really wanna pull him so I can pair him up with jingliu so I can get that synergy and that ptsd
1:59 That's it, that's my Selee team! I've found it in the wild!
Your seele team? Lol everyone runs it
@@jacobfiganiak9881 Figured lol, it's a fairly solid and well structured team and if I was the only one that used that team it'd be a bit off
I feel he has a lot of potential to scale with future characters as his mechanics are varied but still accessible to the team. Even if he's not providing support directly to other characters its not crazy to think we'll get characters that cause team damage in exchange for their effects or have effects that trigger when the team is damaged, benefitting Blade or off of him beyond the base numbers each provide.
This potential to build a team greater than the sum of its characters is sort of missing from most of our current damage dealers. At best characters with follow-up attacks are providing extra actions which can trigger effects like we see with Loucha's field, but its so generic a benefit it doesn't make any of them particularly special.
9:45 rest in peace, in pieces?
For anyone wondering what this ost is, It's called "Endless Carnival" from Blue Archive
since i didnt get jing yuan im pretty lacking on lighting damage, with dan heng + bronya doing just fine for when i really need wind damage, so im likely to forgo blade and save up for kafka.
I need this character
yeahh he need loucha/bronya for his best showcase but i have neither soo still going for kafka mommy
To be fair, basically every DPS needs Bronya for their best showcase, still I'm too waiting for Mommy Kafka and(sightly) farming for her.
@@franconunez925and then there's jing yuan and Clara
@@razergarcia6323 Clara debatable, but believe me when my rented JingYuan and Bronya are the storm approaching with the amount of thunder they bring.
Pull video though? Love those ones on Genshin, and haven't had any in such a long time
Lyney maybe?
the tension between him and luocha during a fight is hilarious
Loving the blue archive music! Would love videos on BA. why is Mika so broken?? ...well its obvious but still
I am incredibly conflicted. On one hand I like how he plays (from the trial and general discussions) and I need a wind unit. On the other hand I really do not like his character at all and mommy Kafka is around the corner, just as you said.
Dude I'm in the same boat. He is so fun to play and the ult looks amazing but goddamn do I dislike his design...
Blade with the upcoming the Jade might bring back some life to him
Never thought I would be upset to roll atk stats but here we are.
Since im planning to pull for kafka and i have already seele and her weapon who are extremely busted and also clara that can fulfill the same role as blade i won't be pulling for him. ( All hail kafka ) it also seems like destruction character for the most part seem to have hp based mechanics apart from hook, that differenciates them from other dps ( clara that needs to get attacked and counters, blade that sacrifices his hp, arlan same, and jingliu soon for those who keep up with leaks )
I realy like Blade's overall design as a playable character. It's not the most optimal while doing auto-play due to his HP mechanic, but otherwise he's great- he's got damage and sustain. The latter is in the form of Hp-scaling and self-heal. Combined with another powerful healer, and he's pretty much a great DPS character! And as mentioned in this video, his passive talent's AoE targets all enemies making him a pseudo Erudition character.
Speaking of character designs though, I had to admire the "Light Cone" weapon system of HSR since it means they can get creative with weapon choices. Case in point would be Clara's Svarog, Gepard's Guitar Case-Shield thing, and Quingque with what appears to be Mahjong tiles.
So, I was wondering: If you started making videos about Honkai on Vars II, will you start making videos on Dota 2 on Vars I?
I might at this point say that Blade May be the best character overall just because of the power he has WITH the utility in many team comps
I would've never pulled for Blade if I didn't have Luocha
Any healer works
@@adriantepes4355 I guess you don't have Luocha 🤔
i am a Hu Tao main, and I really really want him, but mommy is coming and so am I
Blade can go toe to toe with Seele in single target
Blade surpasses Jing Yuan in multi target
Blade uses 0.25 Skill points a turn
Blade can function really well as both a sub and main DPS
Blade is literally a jack of all trades, master of all, lol
He is! I still don't regret Jing Yuan at all, but man Blade is super fun and strong to use. His playstyle also gets super exciting, especially since you want to be hit.
I'll try pulling for him, since Luocha did took a ton of my pulls (86 for those who are curious), currently used 20 pulls so hopefully I get him
He does remind me of Emiya Kiritsugu from Fate in term of look and design, beside he looks good
I'm getting the whole stellaron hunter crew no matter what.
I thought of skipping him to guarantee Fu Xuan but playing the main story made me pull in the end
"First widely accessible Destruction unit"
Physical MC: "Am I a joke to you?"
Whitout Loucha I don't know about Blade AI. I don't think I would pull for him😢
I REALLY WANT HIM FOR MY STELLARON HUNTER COLLECTION, BUT I NEED KAFKA MOREEE
Vars, do you have a high quality mic? If not I think it’s time to invest. The airy, bassy timbre of your voice makes it really hard to hear in some speakers, and I think a good mic and good mixing may help there. Anyway, enjoyed the video! I agree that Blade is the Hp drain archetype done right!
Luocha/Blade/Clara/Yukong. Thank me later, whales
i have both gepard and seele but i cant run her with gepard because she burns through the entire shield in 2 seconds especially with bronya...
Blade is a reference to SRX, literally.
Sooooo Blade is pretty fun to play around with. He can solo a couple of things too if built correctly for the fight and you can almost ignore building up attack entirely in favor of just super pumping him full of hp% this bad boi can easily reach over 10k hp and STILL dish out unreal damage on a literal tank build. 😅
Aged really well
I'm calling it Locha is the Zhongli of Star rail.
But he's a healer
nah, kokomi of hsr
He is his own fucking character (heavily inspired by his counterpart from hi3 Otto apocalypse) stop comparing and find something useful to do
More like Bennett, he buffs atk right
@@xCrysT4L1what. No, hes 1st eidolon does that llo
I want blade so bad but Kafka and dragon dan are after him😭😭😭😭😭😭
While i agree that his design is good at not power creeping, i still fear the future because they can very easily start power creeping for money if they run out of unique characters
Can you make video about clara next btw love your content
He seems cool, but I preefer to save vor the dragon boy❤
Isn't his follow up attack at 5 attacks? Why is it 4 in the video?
What am I missing?
Eidolon level 6. The maximum number of Charge stacks is reduced to 4.
@@LuxerionXIII
well thats outta reach
he already power creeped Jing Yuan
What's the background music called?😊
Every one keep saying that his best supports are bronya and silverwolf(bronya 2.0) meanwhile im struggling to get blade after skipping silverwolf and jingyuan for loucha and getting drained
I have Seele and bronya, dont have bailu or luocha so im not gonna pull for blade
Five months later, I'm still a Blade main (I would've gotten him to E1 if it weren't for Yanqing 😔)
I got so many jades for him and when i got him i didn't have enough xp to level him up to even 30 😢
The character I would pull for if I had gotten Luocha and Kafka wasn't coming in three weeks.
Even without Loucha Lynx will pair pretty well with Blade and even Clara
Use blade natasha
@@IdeasAreBulletproofyeah, lynx would be really good with him, increasing max hp seems like a godsend to blade
What is the ost you are using in this video?
I miss smartbored but I love vars
Is Blade in the showcase E6?😂😂😂
Yeah, I noticed it too, his e6 decreases points to 4. Actually, I don't even vars pulled him bc It was so early how can he have all relics ready and, ye I think it's beta
honestly his hp cut mechanic is about as relevant as ayatos namisen stacks
Anyone have the name for the music?
Hoyoverse when coming up with Blade’s kit: Ok, hear me out. Arlan, but better!
Blade E6
Funny how people in the comments keep asking do I need this specific character to play Blade? Someone said he really needs this char in order to be very good. Yeah no, he's perfectly fine without the busted Loucha and Bronya. If you need a DPS, you won't go wrong with him.
Please tell me the song your playing in the background
Endless Carnival from Blue Archive
Already got E6 natasha so have to skip his banner.
I also really like the ideas behind his design and the extra thought behind team making, but this isnt genshin. Fun factor is barely a thing when combat consists of picking one of two options and timing an ultimat. So Ill only go for characters that I like or characters that enable the ones I like. He's not my type and while neither is Kafka, my boi Sampo would appreciate the buff.
Welp guess what aged like milk
Do I spy longevitous disciple set?
i wish he had a dedicated support bc he could easily well not go back to being the best in the game but rise up to dhil/jingliu level potentially it's crazy to see how good blade was back then but now he's fallen out of the meta completely bc of smth easily fixable i'm watching this before jade's release tho maybe she'll be exactly what blade needs
The only real difference between hunt and destruction is speed vs survivability. Hunt characters are quicker with higher base speeds and tend to claim extra turns. Destruction characters compensate for the lack of extra turns and speed by having slight AoE and enhancing their ability to survive like blades limited healing and clara ult reducing damage from attacks on her. So basically flash vs hulk. Both are pretty much equally as strong your picking between speed and beef.
7:35 its every 4 turns
He definitely power crept Jing yuan
I like seeing content creators using Blue Archive OSTs
A destruction character with no Effect Resistance Trace? Your asking to be cc'd^^
He powercrept every one except Seele
Bro what are the stats of your blade he make to high damage