For a slightly less realistic story, check out Robin Hood Vs. King Arthur, which is about exactly what the title says it's about: www.amazon.com/dp/B0CK8HLGVY
@carlosrivas1629 no he didn't. It's precisely because they had a time crunch that they should have trained the astronauts to be drillers than vice versa. Whoever goes up there needs to be trained in both, and being an astronaut is more complex and takes longer to learn than being a driller.
@@carlosrivas1629 no, the drillers did not already know how to be astronauts. They hadn't trained for that before NASA committed to training the drillers, while the nerdonauts had already trained in drilling for 8 months. This was just a really dumb decision by MB.
+jake51479 But the astronauts, being poorly trained in the ancient art of drilling, might aim it at the empty air instead. Because it's zero G and stuff, you know. That's why you need Bruce's guys, they're the best. Because they only work with the best. Which is Bruce. Who's also best, because he works with them.
That makes sense. They are blue collar good ol' boys who obviously know more than these nerdonauts with their fancy college degrees and years of experience.
No. What makes this even funnier is despite all the legit complaints he has for Armageddon, Ben would still go on to be in Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor, an even worse film, 3 years later.
@@stagelinedpro that because Bruce Willis ,Michael Bay, Jerry Brockheimer, and Affleck did their commentary separate and then all of it was spliced together!
@@PlanetXerox that because Bruce Willis ,Michael Bay, Jerry Brockheimer, and Affleck did their commentary separate and then all of it was spliced together!
I remember when this movie came out, some physicists said that it made as much sense to send some really good bowlers into space instead of drillers. Put them in a ship with lane(s) that exist the front of the ship and have them bowl as the ship approaches the asteroid. The balls would leave the ship at the speed of the ship (plus an extra 20mph or so). Being in space, they probably wouldn't get redirected by anything and wouldn't slow down and so would actually deliver quite the destructive force once they hit the asteroid. Now THAT'S a Bruce Willis movie I could believe in!
This is the best idea I have ever heard of. It would be like Armageddon and The Big Lebowski crossover. Donnie could shut the F up and Walter and The Dude could talk about what they are going to do next. Brilliant.
@@Brad772006 I know this is a year old, but fuck it, this is a job for Jesus. I mean... he's getting his own movie and we know John doesn't mind working with Bay....
This is especially amazing considering Ben was an elementary school teacher's kid from a working class background in Boston and Michael Bay went to one of the most prestigious K-12 schools in Los Angeles. Ben probably met a few Bruce Willis' growing up and he knew they were smart enough not to think they could be astronauts.
Michael Bay films are essentially Jock Wish Fulfilment. They always star some blue collar guy who works with machines teaming up with other jocks to save the world in a way that has them show up a bunch of highly trained government employees who know more about computers and other 'nerdy' stuff. There are exceptions o these protagonists with the likes of Sam Witwicky in Transformers, who is the closest Bay protagonist to being a nerd, but he's mostly portrayed as pathetic until he 'mans up'.
After Armageddon, I never saw how MB got to keep making movies. His films are so dumb, and Armageddon is still the dumbest movie I've ever seen. People have really bad taste if they kept seeing his stuff.
Jesus Christ you have bad taste. Ben Affleck was and has been a mega-douche since he came on to the scene. Most people with half a brain - I'm not talking cinephiles here - knew this. He was awful. Always has been. A pretty wooden actor and a pathetically self-involved celebrity. He was a joke. A punchline. We actually got rid of him for a bit (after he made John Woo's Paycheck). Then he came back with Argo - a pretty bad movie - but a whole new generation of kiddos fell hook, line, and sinker for that old Hollywood comeback chestnut. And then when he became Batman, you kiddos really sunk your teeth in. And thanks to you tasteless schmucks (40 and under) we seem to be stuck with him. Thanks, kids. Way to go. 👉
@justsomeguywithsunglasses8418 I think being a youtube movie critique is better than being a legitimate movie critique. Maybe I'm crazy, but idiots who do those pretentious jobs or fields are always insufferable
@@ilikecinema1234 i would rather intake the opinion of people who possess experience, training, and degrees than random morons on youtube...and who don't care if they offend your sensibilities.
@justsomeguywithsunglasses8418 you can find youtube movie critiques who have went to college/university to study film and cinematography, not that you need any kind of qualifications to comprehend the art of film and critique it, I think that's ridiculous.
When I first saw this scene my first thought was “ok, the astronauts don’t have any drilling experience, but you’ve never drilled an ice meteor that’s moving, in outer space, in space suits, transported by a space ship”.
Why was Michael Bay so rude after Ben asked him "Why is it easier to train oil drillers to become astronauts than to train astronauts to become oil drillers?". He had right to disagree with Ben but what was the point of being so impolite? If I was Ben then I would say to Michael "What's wrong with you?! I asked you politely about the important matter and you're so rude for no apparent reason?! You know something?! Goodbye! I quit! I won't be working with someone who is so boorish!".
I've actually watched the whole movie with Affleck's commentary track and it's genuinely funny and insightful. There was apparently one time while they were filming that he stopped getting air to his space helmet and tried to smash the glass with a rock.
Ben Affleck and Matt Damon wrote the screenplay for Good Will Hunting when they were basically just nobodies out of kindergarten by Hollywood standards and then went on to receive their first Oscars for it. It's easy to forget with all the numerous dumb blockbuster roles they played between each other that they are actually really smart and ironic guys, who understand better than most how ridiculous some of the movies they were participating in were.
@@coolnamebro Please elaborate. Cause according to every source, including WGA (Writing Guild Association) they definitely did and not only that but they received their Oscar for Best Writing, Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen for it.
It really does bring you down to reality when u realize the actors see movies the same way we do, and probably see it coming a mile away how bad it will look/sound on film.
The best can do this. It's why Marlon Brando, Jack Nicholson and RDJ can make a good film great. The fast and the furious would have been super lame, cliche, and Disney-esque without Michelle Rodriguez, ... she pulled the producers aside and basically said, "this is not how it goes down on the street", and proceeded to school them
The best part is, even if lets for logic sake say that theres some "artform" and knowledge to drilling on earth that couldn't be taught to astronauts, how on earth would that in any way help on an asteroid in space? The rock composition, the lack of atmosphere, gravity, etc, would mean that anything you know about drilling on earth would be pretty useless on a completely foreign environment.
The simple part that you and the rest of the idiots (including affleck) fail to understand its that they weren't trained to be full on astronauts... they trained them to sit in a seat and how to operate a spacesuit... Affleck was told to stfu because his question was a false equivalency
The astronauts would have forgotten more about materials science and engineering than the drillers would have ever known. Along with being experts in chemistry, mass, and inertia, I think they might have the upper hand.@@kylerstorm9260
No Ben is just wrong here. His entire logic is flawed. It isn't about training astronauts into drillers versus training drillers into astronauts. BOTH would be impossible within the limited time span of the story. The question is actually can you train drillers into space PASSENGERS (not astronauts) that won't die in outer space, versus can you train astronauts into skilled drillers? The drillers don't need to fly the ship to and from the asteroid. They just need to be able to move around on the surface to drill. So even though Armageddon is literally the most unrealistic asteroid disaster movie there ever was and ever will be, the part about sending skilled driller into space is actually the only part of the movie which makes sense. Trying to teach a bunch of ex-Navy/Air Force pilots turned astronauts how to deploy, operate, maintain, and fix sophisticated drilling equipment is just outright impossible.
"I asked Zach why it would matter so much to Batman that he and Superman's moms have the same name and he told me to shut-shut-shut the f**k up so th-that was the end of that talk."
It was the writing lol 😂 believe the fact was that zack and cris the writer talked about things like this first they wanted to make man of steel, batman movie, wonder woman 1894, then it was bvs the martha scene was for batman to realize he is destroying a family, then dawn of justice the 3 of them versing doomsday Superman dying, then it was suicide squad, then green lantern corp, then justice league
@@davidruelas827 wow what in the world did you just say? Martha Kent and Martha Wayne have the same names because that's what the comic book writers chose for their names. its not that deep
@@Jeff-nu7mj Nobody's arguing with the fact that they have the same name in the comics idiot. People got annoyed because it was still dumb as fuck to have that be the reason why Batman doesn't kill Superman, and that was Zach's decision
@@SixShooterMM I mean if you want to look at it in a shallow dumb as a box of rocks kind of way then sure. When Bruce looks at Superman he doesn't see Clark. He sees an all powerful distant alien that is a possible threat. When he hears that name, his MOTHER'S NAME, the name of the mother who was murdered in front of him, a murder he was powerless to stop, he freezes. Then he learns it's Superman's mothers name. That in his last moments, this cold distant alien isn't worried about his life, he's worried about his mother. This gives humanity to Superman in Bruce's eyes and he decides someone else's Martha, someone else's mother, isn't going to die if he has power to stop it. So yeah, you can think it's dumb as fuck if you want, but that's more a reflection of you than the scene
I love how before the movie came out everyone was freaking out about how he would ruin it by being a shitty Batman, and instead was the best part of the film by far.
Robot 21321 bvs most definitely has problems, and as much as I respect different opinions, I gotta disagree, I still thought it was a great movie. ultimate edition fixed most of its problems for me
Michael G ask yourself this, if you never picked up a comic in your life and the only knowledge of these characters is from MOS, would you understand who they're and what is going on?
@@Yurt_enthusiast7eh i mean he still made The Town and starred in a David Fincher film not too long ago. There’s a lot worse that an actor can do. I mean hell, Bruce Willis stooped a lot lower since the 90s
Lol I always thought the same thing. People forget the astronauts are usually geniuses with advanced degrees and years of flight experience. Learning how to drill wouldn't be a problem. Especially in 8 months.
"hilariously-uncomfortable-rants-dvd-commentaries" Excuse me, what?! Ben is 100% on-point, I wish the guy had his own audio commentary track for the whole movie
Coming from the oil field, There’s a big difference between a 1 year roughneck and a 10-20 year roughneck. The amount of troubleshooting that can come up is endless and you need that experience to get the job done. You can’t depend on equipment functioning how it’s supposed to.
Yeah, I thought that was the point Bruce was making in the film at least. Not that the astronauts couldn't learn but when the shit hit the fan the inexperience would get them at the expense of the planet which he wasn't willing to risk.
What I like about late career Ben Affleck is that everything about him screams that he's actually quite a bit brighter than most people are willing to give him credit for and no amount of money and fame has prevented that from wearing him down.
well said and the subtle genius of Keanu Reeves is he seemingly accepted that his public persona would be terribly inaccurate no matter what and he just accepted that reality and didn't let it drag him down
@@davis267 it’s funny, I saw the last John Wick movie and was thinking “is he delivering his lines this badly.. on purpose? The director didn’t need another take on that one?”. It’s like he’s doing it for the memes now. “yeAh”.
True. He wrote Good Will Hunting with Matt Damon. And the story and dialogue of that film is quite erudite. You couldn't write it if you were an idiot.
You realize Bay has already been paid very well for this movie and the various other movies he has made right? He's got a net worth of over 400 million dollars. Even if he never made a movie again he'd still be set for life and able to bang supermodels all day.
Whenever I’m having a bad day, I just think about how this movie is in the Criterion Collection, that the Criterion folks consider this movie to be one of the definitive works of an artist’s career, and it makes me smile.
@@goORIOLES236 Yeah, I know. All the while Robert Zemeckis only has one movie on the Criterion Collection with his directorial debut, I Wanna Hold Your Hand. Beyond baffling and stupid, NGL.
@@ZemeckisTENIt had nothing to do with quality. Criterion was originally just a standard Laserdisc distributor, so they snatched up a lot of contemporary films. Pretty sure RoboCop is in there too.
Funny thing is despite all this he still reteamed with Michael Bay years later for Pearl Harbour. A movie just as dumb as this one. A paycheck is a paycheck I guess..
SatanicHorse he said something like this "if you ever see me in a movie where thing are exploding everywhere you will know i lost all my money"... No wonder why he started to do his own movies
@@SatanicHorse Paycheck's central theme is: Forget years of hard work for any wages, shares option or fringe benefits... If you can see into the future, just buy lotto like the rest of us.
ben's right, worked in drilling previously, and man there are some absolute knuckle-draggers in that industry. and this was stuff where you had to hit a 20 cm target from 2 km away, not aiming for something the size of a football field like oil and gas
I like the way Michael bay has to sit and squirm while enduring enough burns to triple Vaselines stock. Kevin Smith was right, Afleck does have soemthing special.
Thank you. I remember watching this at the theater in 1998 or whenever and wondering why they would have such a tough time with a little drill after these guys built the space shuttles and satellites and stuff.
Yeah but he destroyed his career when he killed Rosamund Pike in that documentary gone girl. Once I found out she was pregnant at the time I just turned it off and canceled my Netflix I couldn't finish it it was so horrific. How could you do that to your pregnant wife?? JFC Ben. Smh
Arguably the second best commentary of all time. Affleck was absolute fire. If you like this, you need to watch The Rules of Attraction and listen to Carrot Top basically watching the movie for the first time. 🤣🤣🤣
Bruce’s character in this movie reminds me of this kid I grew up with called Andy. Andy tried and failed to get in the army three times and eventually became a car mechanic which he failed at and then a hospital porter. He f-ing loved Armageddon and modelled himself on Bruce in this movie. Anyway at first he was gonna be the best army soldier and work with only the best. The. As a mechanic he was gonna be the best and only work with the best and fix cars the best. Anyway - those patients get to their wards delivered by the best.
Ben Affleck doing this same style of commentary to Batman v Superman or Justice League will save my life. Just imagine... There's just SO MUCH material in both films for him to go off on omg haha
I personally loved Batman V Superman and Justice League, two movies the general public unfortunately hated, but I would love to hear his commentary on those as well.
Still a staple movie of that era and let’s not forget.. 🎼“I don’t wanna close my eyes! I don’t wanna fall asleep, cuz I’d miss you baby, and I don’t wanna miss a thing!” 🎶
For a slightly less realistic story, check out Robin Hood Vs. King Arthur, which is about exactly what the title says it's about: www.amazon.com/dp/B0CK8HLGVY
they could train astronauts but they had a time crunch is the main reason. Ben got that one wrong.
@carlosrivas1629 no he didn't. It's precisely because they had a time crunch that they should have trained the astronauts to be drillers than vice versa. Whoever goes up there needs to be trained in both, and being an astronaut is more complex and takes longer to learn than being a driller.
@@jonathonpolk3592 disagree because they didnt have time to train astronauts, it was a time crunch.
@@jonathonpolk3592 the drillers already know how to do it.
@@carlosrivas1629 no, the drillers did not already know how to be astronauts. They hadn't trained for that before NASA committed to training the drillers, while the nerdonauts had already trained in drilling for 8 months. This was just a really dumb decision by MB.
"You just aim the drill at the ground and turn it on." I've never had any strong feelings for Ben Affleck but now I love him
+jake51479 But the astronauts, being poorly trained in the ancient art of drilling, might aim it at the empty air instead. Because it's zero G and stuff, you know.
That's why you need Bruce's guys, they're the best. Because they only work with the best. Which is Bruce. Who's also best, because he works with them.
But what if something goes wrong with the oxygen intake? How will the drillers know what to do?
+jake51479 They'd just apply their finely-tuned drilling common sense. Maybe they'd drill the asteroid for oxygen.
That makes sense. They are blue collar good ol' boys who obviously know more than these nerdonauts with their fancy college degrees and years of experience.
Is that you Trump?
"Nerdonauts"
This whole segment is comedy gold.
no replies lol
I keep coming back to this video purely for this phrase
"how hard can it be? aim the drill at the ground and turn it on"
i am dead
@@matthewmcdonald1301 how the hell does physical pressure require genius?
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The fact he’s in the actual movie makes this even funnier
Otherwise, it would also be a bit strange that he was on set to discuss these things with Michael Bay.
Well......yeah
Ben- Yes, I Did That And You Would Do It, Too, For A Check
No.
What makes this even funnier is despite all the legit complaints he has for Armageddon, Ben would still go on to be in Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor, an even worse film, 3 years later.
can't believe this actually made it to the DVD
MST3K'd his own movie
let alone into Criterion
that because Bruce Willis ,Michael Bay, Jerry Brockheimer, and Affleck did their commentary separate and then all of it was spliced together!
@@stagelinedpro that because Bruce Willis ,Michael Bay, Jerry Brockheimer, and Affleck did their commentary separate and then all of it was spliced together!
@@PlanetXerox that because Bruce Willis ,Michael Bay, Jerry Brockheimer, and Affleck did their commentary separate and then all of it was spliced together!
I'm dying here. Omg Ben Affleck is the only person allowed to commentate movies.
Can't wait for his commentary on Dawn of Justice!
+Roger Puzzitiello DUUDE, he was screaming inside during those interviews
He looked like he was just going to walk out of the Sad Affleck interview and go slit his wrists.
Ben should quit acting on do commentary on movies
Affleck loves Snyder and support his vision. Why would he trash BvS?
I remember when this movie came out, some physicists said that it made as much sense to send some really good bowlers into space instead of drillers. Put them in a ship with lane(s) that exist the front of the ship and have them bowl as the ship approaches the asteroid. The balls would leave the ship at the speed of the ship (plus an extra 20mph or so). Being in space, they probably wouldn't get redirected by anything and wouldn't slow down and so would actually deliver quite the destructive force once they hit the asteroid.
Now THAT'S a Bruce Willis movie I could believe in!
take my money....
This is the best idea I have ever heard of. It would be like Armageddon and The Big Lebowski crossover. Donnie could shut the F up and Walter and The Dude could talk about what they are going to do next. Brilliant.
@@Brad772006 I know this is a year old, but fuck it, this is a job for Jesus. I mean... he's getting his own movie and we know John doesn't mind working with Bay....
Like... SpaceBowls?
Somebody call Woody Harrelson and Randy Quaid. I have a great idea for a sequel.
"and they don't understand his salt-of-the-earth ways..." :'DD
This is especially amazing considering Ben was an elementary school teacher's kid from a working class background in Boston and Michael Bay went to one of the most prestigious K-12 schools in Los Angeles. Ben probably met a few Bruce Willis' growing up and he knew they were smart enough not to think they could be astronauts.
ahaha thanks for the background info! didn't know any of that.
@@TheLANMAC This what I always thought.. This a Blue collar wet dream...
Didn't you see Apollo 13 boy?
I wanna like your comment but the likes count is at 666
Ben Affleck should do all movie commentaries.
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@@claymathewselevator8121 he was the bomb in Phantoms though
@@aedwardsss Him doing Mallrats, Amy, and, Dogma is hilarious.
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It’s turkey time
PHANTOMS LIKE A MOTHERFUCKERS
Michael Bay films are essentially Jock Wish Fulfilment. They always star some blue collar guy who works with machines teaming up with other jocks to save the world in a way that has them show up a bunch of highly trained government employees who know more about computers and other 'nerdy' stuff. There are exceptions o these protagonists with the likes of Sam Witwicky in Transformers, who is the closest Bay protagonist to being a nerd, but he's mostly portrayed as pathetic until he 'mans up'.
Bryant Langmuir Nic Cage in The Rock is a nerd and all the “jocks” die
The "everymen" in Bay's Transformers series are the soldiers.
Righteous knights working for shifty/incompetent suits.
@@thetrickisirarelyrespond5945 Yes, with pinnacle being 13 Hours.
Bay is basically projecting his own prejudice towards the system while pandering to jock types.
I wish Bay replied politely to Affleck instead of being so rude. The fact that he was a director didn't mean that he can do whatever he wants.
Seriously that last line, dear god...I laughed so hard.
Dindzia see palo firtiin booy?
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Same
@@stiepanholkien605 UA-cam is asking if I want to "Translate to English".
Ben Affleck dragged the fuck out of Michael Bay and this is why he is the hero we do not deserve.
But he is the hero we won't stop getting.
The fact he did it to his face then did it in the commentary is the most Boston shit ever 😂
After Armageddon, I never saw how MB got to keep making movies. His films are so dumb, and Armageddon is still the dumbest movie I've ever seen. People have really bad taste if they kept seeing his stuff.
@@jonathonpolk3592because it made a lot of money and that's all Hollywood execs care about.
Jesus Christ you have bad taste. Ben Affleck was and has been a mega-douche since he came on to the scene. Most people with half a brain - I'm not talking cinephiles here - knew this. He was awful. Always has been. A pretty wooden actor and a pathetically self-involved celebrity. He was a joke. A punchline. We actually got rid of him for a bit (after he made John Woo's Paycheck). Then he came back with Argo - a pretty bad movie - but a whole new generation of kiddos fell hook, line, and sinker for that old Hollywood comeback chestnut. And then when he became Batman, you kiddos really sunk your teeth in. And thanks to you tasteless schmucks (40 and under) we seem to be stuck with him.
Thanks, kids. Way to go. 👉
Ben could have easily been an youtube movie critic apparently. One of the better ones too
Not sure if you think this is a compliment or not.
@justsomeguywithsunglasses8418 I think being a youtube movie critique is better than being a legitimate movie critique. Maybe I'm crazy, but idiots who do those pretentious jobs or fields are always insufferable
Not a high bar
@@ilikecinema1234 i would rather intake the opinion of people who possess experience, training, and degrees than random morons on youtube...and who don't care if they offend your sensibilities.
@justsomeguywithsunglasses8418 you can find youtube movie critiques who have went to college/university to study film and cinematography, not that you need any kind of qualifications to comprehend the art of film and critique it, I think that's ridiculous.
Wow my respect for Ben Affleck just went up 10 fold.
Anyone who shits on Michael Bay is okay in my book.
I second
It is amusing him ripping on his own blockbuster
Dint ya see apollo thirteen boyah!
@wolvesetc Paycheck is a Paycheck. Wouldn't be the first person ever to shit talk about his job.
When I first saw this scene my first thought was “ok, the astronauts don’t have any drilling experience, but you’ve never drilled an ice meteor that’s moving, in outer space, in space suits, transported by a space ship”.
Ben has such a nice voice, I would listen to him on a podcast or a lets play
His voice has changed a big since then
He sounds a lot like Joe Rogan
Why was Michael Bay so rude after Ben asked him "Why is it easier to train oil drillers to become astronauts than to train astronauts to become oil drillers?". He had right to disagree with Ben but what was the point of being so impolite? If I was Ben then I would say to Michael "What's wrong with you?! I asked you politely about the important matter and you're so rude for no apparent reason?! You know something?! Goodbye! I quit! I won't be working with someone who is so boorish!".
@@tavellclinton9256 autism. He didn't actually say that
That why he's the best salesman in Brooklyn.
Didn't you see Apollo 13, boy?
sounds like alex jones lol
I want to buy the dvd just to hear the rest.
+Insomn lmao if he talk the whole movie i will buy it RIGHT NOW!
Same! All commentaries should aspire to be this golden! XD
@@aldencaleb3806 he does about 36 of commentary throughout. It’s available just search for it
I've actually watched the whole movie with Affleck's commentary track and it's genuinely funny and insightful. There was apparently one time while they were filming that he stopped getting air to his space helmet and tried to smash the glass with a rock.
Ben Affleck and Matt Damon wrote the screenplay for Good Will Hunting when they were basically just nobodies out of kindergarten by Hollywood standards and then went on to receive their first Oscars for it. It's easy to forget with all the numerous dumb blockbuster roles they played between each other that they are actually really smart and ironic guys, who understand better than most how ridiculous some of the movies they were participating in were.
@@kosmosychewell i guess youre no longer that good, will hunting.
@@kosmosychethey didn't write good will hunting
@@coolnamebro Please elaborate. Cause according to every source, including WGA (Writing Guild Association) they definitely did and not only that but they received their Oscar for Best Writing, Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen for it.
so we really all here right now arent we @@kosmosyche
It really does bring you down to reality when u realize the actors see movies the same way we do, and probably see it coming a mile away how bad it will look/sound on film.
The best can do this. It's why Marlon Brando, Jack Nicholson and RDJ can make a good film great.
The fast and the furious would have been super lame, cliche, and Disney-esque without Michelle Rodriguez, ... she pulled the producers aside and basically said, "this is not how it goes down on the street", and proceeded to school them
@@KeldonA Michelle Rodriguez schooled them on how it goes down in the streets?
😂
aim the drill on the ground and turn it on
This...just made Ben Affleck incredibly endearing. LOL
I would pay top dollar to see Ben Affleck commentate on the various movies he's been in.
Check out the commentary track for Mallrats. Affleck is hilarious.
I'd like to hear him talk about how much he misses getting to tap Jennifer Lopez in Gigli.
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@@ablethreefourbravo oh you mean Jennifer Affleck??? Times have changed!
@@ablethreefourbravo well he can do a new commentary track, or they both can 😉
The best part is, even if lets for logic sake say that theres some "artform" and knowledge to drilling on earth that couldn't be taught to astronauts, how on earth would that in any way help on an asteroid in space? The rock composition, the lack of atmosphere, gravity, etc, would mean that anything you know about drilling on earth would be pretty useless on a completely foreign environment.
if the drillers would be clueless what to do then astronauts trained by those drillers would be even more clueless.
The simple part that you and the rest of the idiots (including affleck) fail to understand its that they weren't trained to be full on astronauts... they trained them to sit in a seat and how to operate a spacesuit...
Affleck was told to stfu because his question was a false equivalency
But he's got the best guys
The astronauts would have forgotten more about materials science and engineering than the drillers would have ever known. Along with being experts in chemistry, mass, and inertia, I think they might have the upper hand.@@kylerstorm9260
No Ben is just wrong here. His entire logic is flawed. It isn't about training astronauts into drillers versus training drillers into astronauts. BOTH would be impossible within the limited time span of the story. The question is actually can you train drillers into space PASSENGERS (not astronauts) that won't die in outer space, versus can you train astronauts into skilled drillers? The drillers don't need to fly the ship to and from the asteroid. They just need to be able to move around on the surface to drill.
So even though Armageddon is literally the most unrealistic asteroid disaster movie there ever was and ever will be, the part about sending skilled driller into space is actually the only part of the movie which makes sense. Trying to teach a bunch of ex-Navy/Air Force pilots turned astronauts how to deploy, operate, maintain, and fix sophisticated drilling equipment is just outright impossible.
This is one of the best things ever lmfao
"I asked Zach why it would matter so much to Batman that he and Superman's moms have the same name and he told me to shut-shut-shut the f**k up so th-that was the end of that talk."
Because they actually do in the comics. That wasn't Zack's decision
It was the writing lol 😂 believe the fact was that zack and cris the writer talked about things like this first they wanted to make man of steel, batman movie, wonder woman 1894, then it was bvs the martha scene was for batman to realize he is destroying a family, then dawn of justice the 3 of them versing doomsday Superman dying, then it was suicide squad, then green lantern corp, then justice league
@@davidruelas827 wow what in the world did you just say? Martha Kent and Martha Wayne have the same names because that's what the comic book writers chose for their names. its not that deep
@@Jeff-nu7mj Nobody's arguing with the fact that they have the same name in the comics idiot. People got annoyed because it was still dumb as fuck to have that be the reason why Batman doesn't kill Superman, and that was Zach's decision
@@SixShooterMM I mean if you want to look at it in a shallow dumb as a box of rocks kind of way then sure. When Bruce looks at Superman he doesn't see Clark. He sees an all powerful distant alien that is a possible threat. When he hears that name, his MOTHER'S NAME, the name of the mother who was murdered in front of him, a murder he was powerless to stop, he freezes. Then he learns it's Superman's mothers name. That in his last moments, this cold distant alien isn't worried about his life, he's worried about his mother. This gives humanity to Superman in Bruce's eyes and he decides someone else's Martha, someone else's mother, isn't going to die if he has power to stop it. So yeah, you can think it's dumb as fuck if you want, but that's more a reflection of you than the scene
I used to never be a fan of Ben but seriously this little commentary really opened my eyes. He's actually a pretty down to earth sounding dude haha
You just didn't understand his salt of the earth, rough and tumble ways. But now you know.
Just don’t listen to his views on “Islamophobia”. Then he turns into a blue haired liberal.
@@MysteriousMrLLOL Ben. Salt of the earth. Ok
@@jamesbizs
They were quoting the video
This is why Criterion is a gift to film and film lovers and needs to be preserved at all cost.
If Affleck didn't make it as a movie star, he could have always done UA-cam commentaries, god knows he has the personality for it
considering that's where Kevin Smith's careers has come to, Affleck may have been closer than you think to becoming a youtuber
Ben Affleck is fucking sick. Honestly Batman v Superman was shit, but his Batman was the only redeeming qulity of the film.
I love how before the movie came out everyone was freaking out about how he would ruin it by being a shitty Batman, and instead was the best part of the film by far.
Wonder Woman as well
Robot 21321 bvs most definitely has problems, and as much as I respect different opinions, I gotta disagree, I still thought it was a great movie. ultimate edition fixed most of its problems for me
+Robot 21321 He was awful in that bullshit movie! Thank God I'll always remember him as Daredevil.
Michael G ask yourself this, if you never picked up a comic in your life and the only knowledge of these characters is from MOS, would you understand who they're and what is going on?
"NASA nerd-o-nauts"
I come back to this like once a month. it’s like a little treat.
This is why there needs to be an Oscar for best DVD/Blu-ray commentary
I never cared for Ben Affleck one way or the other. It took this 2 minute video to make me love him.
He's a funny guy, too bad his choices of movies to star in aren't that good anymore
@@Yurt_enthusiast7eh i mean he still made The Town and starred in a David Fincher film not too long ago. There’s a lot worse that an actor can do. I mean hell, Bruce Willis stooped a lot lower since the 90s
Lol I always thought the same thing. People forget the astronauts are usually geniuses with advanced degrees and years of flight experience. Learning how to drill wouldn't be a problem. Especially in 8 months.
They're genius EX-NAVY SEALS/EXPERIMENTAL JET PILOTS with advanced degrees and flight experience.
“How hard can it be? You aim the drill at the ground and then turn it on.” 😂
"hilariously-uncomfortable-rants-dvd-commentaries"
Excuse me, what?! Ben is 100% on-point, I wish the guy had his own audio commentary track for the whole movie
Michael Bay says no xD
This made me love Ben Affleck even more hahahahaha
I was going to comment this same exact thing but I see you beat me to it seven years ago, King.
Coming from the oil field, There’s a big difference between a 1 year roughneck and a 10-20 year roughneck. The amount of troubleshooting that can come up is endless and you need that experience to get the job done. You can’t depend on equipment functioning how it’s supposed to.
Yeah, I thought that was the point Bruce was making in the film at least. Not that the astronauts couldn't learn but when the shit hit the fan the inexperience would get them at the expense of the planet which he wasn't willing to risk.
I was reminded that this exists today so of course I had to come and rewatch it 😂
Fuck, that was waaaaay funnier than I was expecting. I actually gained more respect for Ben after hearing this
I love the way he says "hot pipe" at 1:45.
HAHT PIPE
What I like about late career Ben Affleck is that everything about him screams that he's actually quite a bit brighter than most people are willing to give him credit for and no amount of money and fame has prevented that from wearing him down.
He's a bad actor, but a very good screenwriter. The good actor is his brother
well said and the subtle genius of Keanu Reeves is he seemingly accepted that his public persona would be terribly inaccurate no matter what and he just accepted that reality and didn't let it drag him down
@@davis267yea and Queen Elizabeth died last year
@@davis267 it’s funny, I saw the last John Wick movie and was thinking “is he delivering his lines this badly.. on purpose? The director didn’t need another take on that one?”. It’s like he’s doing it for the memes now. “yeAh”.
True. He wrote Good Will Hunting with Matt Damon. And the story and dialogue of that film is quite erudite. You couldn't write it if you were an idiot.
Okay I'm going to go buy a cheap used copy of Armageddon (so Bay doesn't get the money) so I can hear Affleck's whole commentary.
So... did you do it?
See it or Flick it. Watch it yt. Only one special release had that commentary
@@Kacpa2
It's the commentary that he wanted, UA-cam's not going to have Criterion's DVD commentary in full
You realize Bay has already been paid very well for this movie and the various other movies he has made right? He's got a net worth of over 400 million dollars. Even if he never made a movie again he'd still be set for life and able to bang supermodels all day.
@@jakejoker1988 not *all* day
can't wait for him doing dvd commentary for bvs
I NEED the whole commentary
This is pure gold. Pure! Benny, we love ya' man!
"You aim the drill at the ground and you turn it ON." I'm fucking dying.
Yeah, Affleck never disappoints on a commentary track. This, and any Kevin Smith movie he's featured on, always has me in stiches.
Man is drunk doing commentary and i love it. He is brutally honest.
My opinion of Ben Affleck just raised exponentially… dude is literally doing UA-cam commentary, and I love it
Whenever I’m having a bad day, I just think about how this movie is in the Criterion Collection, that the Criterion folks consider this movie to be one of the definitive works of an artist’s career, and it makes me smile.
This movie? A fucking Michael Bay movie? As apposed to MILLIONS of WAY better movies like anything by Robert Zemeckis? 😐😑😐
This was actually a very entertaining movie though, blessings!
@@ZemeckisTEN Michael Bay has two movies in the Criterion Collection. The other one is The Rock.
@@goORIOLES236 Yeah, I know. All the while Robert Zemeckis only has one movie on the Criterion Collection with his directorial debut, I Wanna Hold Your Hand. Beyond baffling and stupid, NGL.
@@ZemeckisTENIt had nothing to do with quality. Criterion was originally just a standard Laserdisc distributor, so they snatched up a lot of contemporary films. Pretty sure RoboCop is in there too.
The SlingBlade impression, at the end, is the perfect crust on this comedy pie. Affleck was on fire.
I can't believe they let him actually do this and then they sold it. It's like a Rifftrax voice over
Funny thing is despite all this he still reteamed with Michael Bay years later for Pearl Harbour. A movie just as dumb as this one. A paycheck is a paycheck I guess..
When he was asked why he did the movie "Paycheck" he reportedly answered "The answer is in the title of the movie"
Paycheck was an awesome movie tho
SatanicHorse he said something like this "if you ever see me in a movie where thing are exploding everywhere you will know i lost all my money"... No wonder why he started to do his own movies
@@SatanicHorse Paycheck's central theme is: Forget years of hard work for any wages, shares option or fringe benefits... If you can see into the future, just buy lotto like the rest of us.
Farengi rule of acquisition number 48. A paycheck is a paycheck is a paycheck.
Affleck has always been an incredibly smart and hilariously caustic dude.
Unless you put him on tv with Sam Harris lol
@@flippalovell bro you serious? Sam Harris is an idiot, and I pity you if you look up to him intellectually. I bet you worship Steven Pinker too.
Citation needed
Nah lol
Down to earth commentary.. I can't believe they let this out on the blu ray haha but fair play.. love watching this!
no matter how many times I listen to this it kills me, bless you Ben
Guys he is just having some fun. He doesn’t bash the movie
Or Bay in the rest of the track. He’s actually complimentary of Bay several times
I have this weird new respect for Affleck now.
ben's right, worked in drilling previously, and man there are some absolute knuckle-draggers in that industry. and this was stuff where you had to hit a 20 cm target from 2 km away, not aiming for something the size of a football field like oil and gas
roast of the goddamn century
I like the way Michael bay has to sit and squirm while enduring enough burns to triple Vaselines stock.
Kevin Smith was right, Afleck does have soemthing special.
based Ben
Ben Affleck has always been great on DVD commentaries.
this gives me life
I love coming back to certain YT videos 😂 Thanks Ben
Thank you. I remember watching this at the theater in 1998 or whenever and wondering why they would have such a tough time with a little drill after these guys built the space shuttles and satellites and stuff.
Well I mean in the movie the nasa guys built the damn thing backwards
This is legendary!
This commentary made ben affleck my favorite actor
Honestly in tears laughing at this.. I have a whole new level of respect for Ben Affleck
Yeah but he destroyed his career when he killed Rosamund Pike in that documentary gone girl. Once I found out she was pregnant at the time I just turned it off and canceled my Netflix I couldn't finish it it was so horrific. How could you do that to your pregnant wife?? JFC Ben. Smh
@@RaisedBySheepsShut the fuck up and stop looking for drama where there is none. Mind your own business.
this is gold
Arguably the second best commentary of all time. Affleck was absolute fire. If you like this, you need to watch The Rules of Attraction and listen to Carrot Top basically watching the movie for the first time. 🤣🤣🤣
I'm sad it's only 2 minutes. I could listen to him do this the entire movie.
Bruce’s character in this movie reminds me of this kid I grew up with called Andy. Andy tried and failed to get in the army three times and eventually became a car mechanic which he failed at and then a hospital porter. He f-ing loved Armageddon and modelled himself on Bruce in this movie. Anyway at first he was gonna be the best army soldier and work with only the best. The. As a mechanic he was gonna be the best and only work with the best and fix cars the best. Anyway - those patients get to their wards delivered by the best.
This is the greatest ever.
Thank you Joe. For leading me to find out this masterpiece :D
Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms
And in the new one: "Affleck was the bomb as Batman yo"
Holden McNeil said nothing wrong.
Ben Affleck doing this same style of commentary to Batman v Superman or Justice League will save my life. Just imagine... There's just SO MUCH material in both films for him to go off on omg haha
This made me really smile.
this is perfect
Ben sounds like he could have been a UA-camr if he kept reviewing movies
this is the best dvd commentary ever
This, is, amazing, and show's how much he really understand's stories and LOGIC.
As a driller, this provokes me :P
Would eight months of training in drilling be sufficient for this mission?
Cmon we need an answer.
Personally, I'd like Affleck to have a side gig on youtube doing commentary on all his movies, riffing candid style.
This is gold! :D
this might be my favorite clip on youtube
I personally loved Batman V Superman and Justice League, two movies the general public unfortunately hated, but I would love to hear his commentary on those as well.
BvS is an amazing movie
I think justice league was pretty well recieved by everybody.
@@trevorthornley8835 only by Zack Snyder fans.
@@Charlezard. I think more than that for justice league. I heard quite a few people who were not Zack Snyder fans love that film.
@@trevorthornley8835 I havent heard of anyone else who liked it. Lol
The next time I audition for a play this will be my monologue
This commentary is the best work of Affleck's career.
Still a staple movie of that era and let’s not forget..
🎼“I don’t wanna close my eyes! I don’t wanna fall asleep, cuz I’d miss you baby, and I don’t wanna miss a thing!” 🎶
This is art
I'm ashamed to say I've watched this at least 20 times
All of a sudden I love this guy
This is the best video on YT
Ben Affleck, you beautiful creature. We are not worthy of you!
I wish i was a salt of the earth guy so i knew enough mechanics and physics to identify a good earth boring drill for space by glancing at it.
This is such a great commentary 😂