This is how to do it! Way to go!!! Using PAN-PAN in the correct manner, stating what's the problem and other nice to know and need to know, confirming PAN from ATC, clear instructions, talk slowly, ask questions but take ONE question at the time and wait for the answer first before next one and just as smooth and perfect as it could be. Minimal risk of misunderstanding what is to be done or what is said and how serious it is right now (PAN-PAN), no radiofuss, no overload to the pilots and safe to the ground. This should be in education to pilots and ATC, as how to do it!
I prefer the American way: make it unclear whether it's an emergency, use long-winded phraseology, then ensure ATC ask for fuel in pounds every few minutes, making sure they never share this information with other ATC units.
Wow.. good job pilot. Declaring emergency in calm way. Proceed with telling the condition of airplane to the atc. Like the blue graphic. And clear line of where the plane goes. Thank you
@@dosunum6118 My bad, just re-read the rules. It is still technically an emergency call, but it does state elsewhere in the same document it's a state of urgency. I always thought pan however was not technically an emergency, more of a way to gain priority from ATC for non life threatening situations.
1:50 I really love how the atc asking the pilot about the condition in structured way. And they both speak in a perfect tempo. Meanwhile in the US, pilot and atc are compete who speak faster.
Kudos to ATC for asking correct readout from V69 pilot. Yes, it’s his job, but everyone deserves a pat on the back once in a while for a job rightly done!😊
Kudos in particular for doing it calmly, not accusing anyone or bossing anyone. And kudos to the pilot for repeating the whole readout, not just the missing bit.
Sadly that there is no more audio. This could have been a classic VAS video of 10 minutes, showing everything from the panpan call to the fire truck checking the runway for any fuel.
Australian ATCs are the best. Very professional calm n collected n none of them display any arrogance in their communications with Pilots. Listening to those female American ATCs their tone of communication to pilots just wreaks of arrogance.
I didn't hear ATC ask for fuel quantity, I'd have thought that would be the first question with a possible fuel leak. Great job by atc and pilots, really clear and concise
@@James-oo1yq No, no - it's only US ATC that would ask such a useless question. In the rest of the world we leave the pilot alone to get on with flying the emergency. We've got all the time in the world to check with the airline what the aircraft took off with.
iatsd Okay, I suppose that kind of makes sense, as I don't suppose the fuel level makes any difference to the response on the ground. That being said...you could make the same argument about the question of 'souls on board' both questions could be answered by someone other than the pilots. I do think the pilots in an emergency have a huge amount of work to do in a short space of time, and shouldn't be asked these kind of questions until they are ready to answer them.
@@James-oo1yq No. SOB is important in case of total or partial loss: you know for how many people you look for. The thing is, the airliner's paperwork can contain mistakes (e.g. jumpseaters or excluded passengers). The pilots should have this in the appropriate sheet.
I remember years ago a Airbus 330 almost crashed into sea due to a fuel leak on right engine from US to London... they used wrong fuel lines bracket and caused a massive fuel leak mid-air.
Late reply, but you may be referring to Air Transat from Toronto to Lisbon. Barely made it to Lajes in the Azores. I believe it was a bracket like you said. While the pilots did an Excellent job landing, they actually caused the second engine to die since they cross transferred fuel to the leaking side. That's what I roughly remember. They did some sort of change where now you check whether the fuel usage goes beyond what's theoretically possible so that you're more aware when you have a leak. Something like that.
That's the American way to do it. Whenever Qantas pilots communicate with US ATC, you hear them changing their pronunciation of numbers as soon as ATC responds differently.
Niner is the correct designation under ICAO phonetics regulation, of which Australia is member in good standing. So niner is not an American phrase, but the internationally recognized designation of nine in aviation. The pilots in this situation, I believe, intentionally used six-nine because it's funny. Lol
I believe passenger load is 60-70% on this route, so this particular flight was less than normal for load. It's better on the Sydney to Hong Kong route. Not profitable apparently, VA's only profitable international routes being New Zealand, Pacific Islands and Los Angeles.
Hey just saw on the local news a B17 crashed at Bradley international airport earlier today. Might be something you could make a video of. Airport code BDL
@@VASAviation never thought I'd have to argue with one of my favorite uploaders. Bro, your videos in the past week have been, in majority, 2 minutes in length with a few 5-10 min vids sprinkled in. It's just an observation I made, yes, your videos this week have been pretty short compared to what you usually post. When I subbed months ago, The majority of videos were 10 or 20 minutes long with some 5 minute videos sprinkled in. Sorry for saying what I noticed.
Well, sometimes they are longer and sometimes shorter. Depending on the content I have in hand and the events that happen recently. Also I am now 100% involved in my pilot career and can't spend as much time as I spent a couple years ago when I had just started my pilot training. Hope you understand.
@@robbie1984L nope this happened in July before any of that mate! No wonder why there cancelling flights virgin long haul struggling look at there share price
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I've been more anxious ordering a pizza.
Hahahaha! These pilots were awesome!
That was one smooth interaction between pilot and ATC. Very well done.
A PanPan Pan PanPan PanPan Pizza?
@@TheCptCoy Pan de Pizza (from spanish: Pizza bread)
@@jpzv_old Wait "pan" means bread in Spanish? Because it also means bread in Japanese and now I must know why...
This is how to do it! Way to go!!!
Using PAN-PAN in the correct manner, stating what's the problem and other nice to know and need to know, confirming PAN from ATC, clear instructions, talk slowly, ask questions but take ONE question at the time and wait for the answer first before next one and just as smooth and perfect as it could be. Minimal risk of misunderstanding what is to be done or what is said and how serious it is right now (PAN-PAN), no radiofuss, no overload to the pilots and safe to the ground. This should be in education to pilots and ATC, as how to do it!
Much like the Brits do it. Calm, cool, no one left in any doubt what is happening or what each other wants
I prefer the American way: make it unclear whether it's an emergency, use long-winded phraseology, then ensure ATC ask for fuel in pounds every few minutes, making sure they never share this information with other ATC units.
I listen to the American recordings and I think I could never fly using radio. Then I listen to the Australian and it all makes sense.
Textbook communication. That’s how you do it.
lki34442 Australians for ya
It should have been titled: "No worries mate." :) Love the professionalism!
Australians have the most soothing voices....
@Too Much-Online You'll be making your own tea tonight, buddy. And sleeping on the lounge! Or outside with the dog.
Too Much-Online so true haha!!
@Too Much-Online I know what you'll be having for dinner tonight. Cold Shoulder and Hot Tongue.
@@roustus66 Dude, it's outside with the dog in a tent :) none of this lounge stuff lol
@@roustus66
Already in the dog house....
First time heard pilot self provide pax # and HAZMAT data on the first call in one go. And really liked the calm comms.
Velocity 69
Nice
Must be the Mile High Club! 😜
Nice
at the moment of viewing this comment, it also has 69 likes. Nice.
Saw that coming. So original.
Oh, dinner for two.😋
The most comprehensive PAN declaration I've ever heard :) Calm and contains most important details. Great job :)
Superb communication on both sides
You can't argue that is a better version of pilot ATC comms.
Most of us don't use "cunt" in so casual a manner as foreigners might think…
Velocity 69 eh eh that's what I call a calsign !!
I love that Aussie politeness. And the accent of course.
Wow.. good job pilot. Declaring emergency in calm way. Proceed with telling the condition of airplane to the atc.
Like the blue graphic. And clear line of where the plane goes. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
No emergency was declared
@@StuartPriceSTORTIMUS hi.. emergency declaration is done by word PANPAN or MAYDAY
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@@dosunum6118 My bad, just re-read the rules. It is still technically an emergency call, but it does state elsewhere in the same document it's a state of urgency. I always thought pan however was not technically an emergency, more of a way to gain priority from ATC for non life threatening situations.
PANPAN is NOT at emergency but an urgency. No priority required.
I think this is the first time I've heard the aircraft volunteer souls on board info, without being asked and ATC waiting for the aircraft to check
1:50 I really love how the atc asking the pilot about the condition in structured way. And they both speak in a perfect tempo. Meanwhile in the US, pilot and atc are compete who speak faster.
Kudos to ATC for asking correct readout from V69 pilot. Yes, it’s his job, but everyone deserves a pat on the back once in a while for a job rightly done!😊
Kudos in particular for doing it calmly, not accusing anyone or bossing anyone. And kudos to the pilot for repeating the whole readout, not just the missing bit.
Absolute correct procedure by both pilot and ATC, far better than commonly heard. Everything is clear and easy to follow.
Sadly that there is no more audio. This could have been a classic VAS video of 10 minutes, showing everything from the panpan call to the fire truck checking the runway for any fuel.
Hey! I remember this. My team was given this aircraft for arrival in HKG but later found out this flight returned back to base.
great video! keep up the amazing work
No worries cobber, love the Aussies, they're so far removed from our bull in the UK
ORRDDUUUHH!!!
@@DaveWhoa Veddy Ruuuuude!
@@elcastorgrande BEHAVE LIKE A GOOD BOYYYY!!!!
Haa, true. But fast forward a year, not the same Melbourne sadly .
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Australian ATCs are the best. Very professional calm n collected n none of them display any arrogance in their communications with Pilots. Listening to those female American ATCs their tone of communication to pilots just wreaks of arrogance.
I love to hear these :)
We have a fuel leak.
Roger. Would you like a delay vector to lose some weight?
WFT :D
I didn't hear ATC ask for fuel quantity, I'd have thought that would be the first question with a possible fuel leak. Great job by atc and pilots, really clear and concise
If you have a fuel leak, you're losing fuel every second.
VASAviation - IF! Even though you'd expect the atc to want to know what he lifted off with
@@James-oo1yq No, no - it's only US ATC that would ask such a useless question. In the rest of the world we leave the pilot alone to get on with flying the emergency. We've got all the time in the world to check with the airline what the aircraft took off with.
iatsd Okay, I suppose that kind of makes sense, as I don't suppose the fuel level makes any difference to the response on the ground. That being said...you could make the same argument about the question of 'souls on board' both questions could be answered by someone other than the pilots. I do think the pilots in an emergency have a huge amount of work to do in a short space of time, and shouldn't be asked these kind of questions until they are ready to answer them.
@@James-oo1yq No. SOB is important in case of total or partial loss: you know for how many people you look for. The thing is, the airliner's paperwork can contain mistakes (e.g. jumpseaters or excluded passengers). The pilots should have this in the appropriate sheet.
nice callsign
Can you make a video about the Vietnam Airlines flight VN781? It almost lands on Melbourne airport without its landing gear deployed
Oooh yes I'm waiting for this one. Should be a top kek
Nice
Do you have the VNA781 incident at Melbourne Airport recently ?
Air Transat Flight 236 flashbacks...
Anyways well done to the pilots and ATC. This is a perfect example of how things should be said!
Its the way we roll mate................
I remember years ago a Airbus 330 almost crashed into sea due to a fuel leak on right engine from US to London... they used wrong fuel lines bracket and caused a massive fuel leak mid-air.
Late reply, but you may be referring to Air Transat from Toronto to Lisbon. Barely made it to Lajes in the Azores. I believe it was a bracket like you said. While the pilots did an Excellent job landing, they actually caused the second engine to die since they cross transferred fuel to the leaking side. That's what I roughly remember. They did some sort of change where now you check whether the fuel usage goes beyond what's theoretically possible so that you're more aware when you have a leak. Something like that.
Nice.
69. Giggity
Erhm...yeah that looks like a leak :o
I love how the pilots and ATC refer to the flight as Velocity Sixty-Nine rather than Velocity Six Niner!
That's the American way to do it. Whenever Qantas pilots communicate with US ATC, you hear them changing their pronunciation of numbers as soon as ATC responds differently.
Niner is the correct designation under ICAO phonetics regulation, of which Australia is member in good standing. So niner is not an American phrase, but the internationally recognized designation of nine in aviation. The pilots in this situation, I believe, intentionally used six-nine because it's funny. Lol
Can I use velocity 69 as a pick up line or is it copyrighted? 😉
Nice, where do you get the audio from ?
Australians......that's not a PANPAN. THIS is a PANPAN
Boy, only 113 POB, this VA operation must be most profitable...….
I believe passenger load is 60-70% on this route, so this particular flight was less than normal for load. It's better on the Sydney to Hong Kong route. Not profitable apparently, VA's only profitable international routes being New Zealand, Pacific Islands and Los Angeles.
Never knew this happened and I live in Melbourne...
Ryanair... gets buckets. Must get something for their fuel tanks
Again that hose clamp that chaffed and rupture the fuel delivery line ?
I'm guessing pob is people on board? Seems quite low for a 330 though
Cathay and Qantas dominates the HK-Melbourne routes and people might prefer big names so probably that's why
Yes VA is having some trouble competing against Cathay and Qantas
Yeah referring to them as SOB's might get confusing
"Piltos" Lol
yeah that's Captain Juan and Flight Assistant Pablo
Hey just saw on the local news a B17 crashed at Bradley international airport earlier today. Might be something you could make a video of. Airport code BDL
Watch "Vintage WWII Boeing B-17G Flying Fortress crashes landing at Bradley" on UA-cam
ua-cam.com/video/dU2XXGI_Ke0/v-deo.html
Someone forget to close the gas cap?
They forgot to close the gas cap
how do you lisin to ATC?
103 passenger half empty. How they make any money?
Alert squad
Feels like the videos keep getting shorter and shorter
You are wrong
@@VASAviation okay, but before I commented I glanced at the uploads. Maybe you should too.
I should what? I know what videos I upload haha!
@@VASAviation never thought I'd have to argue with one of my favorite uploaders.
Bro, your videos in the past week have been, in majority, 2 minutes in length with a few 5-10 min vids sprinkled in.
It's just an observation I made, yes, your videos this week have been pretty short compared to what you usually post.
When I subbed months ago, The majority of videos were 10 or 20 minutes long with some 5 minute videos sprinkled in.
Sorry for saying what I noticed.
Well, sometimes they are longer and sometimes shorter. Depending on the content I have in hand and the events that happen recently. Also I am now 100% involved in my pilot career and can't spend as much time as I spent a couple years ago when I had just started my pilot training. Hope you understand.
Wow light loads no wonder why there going broke
the unrest and drop off is causing it.... same at Cathay and Qantas
@@robbie1984L nope this happened in July before any of that mate! No wonder why there cancelling flights virgin long haul struggling look at there share price
wow btw first hahaha
keep up the amazing work...
Nice