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Battle of the Canards: A dogfight free-for-all (more than 2 fighters, heaters optional) consisting of a mix of - but not limited to - the J10C Firebird, JAS39E Gripen, Eurofighter Typhoon, SU30SM Flanker-H, and Dassault Rafale. May the best 'nard win.
GS, it suddenly occurred to me: Your voice is like if your Tactical Instructor’s last job was the night shift DJ at a Cool Jazz radio station. All the info but with a cool, laidback kinda vibe. As you kill off the Enemy.😂
About those missing missiles: it's to do with the airspeed they were launched at -- PL-10 has all its control surfaces at the rear of the fuselage, unlike an R-73M or an AIM-9X its ability to maintain controlled flight at low speeds is virtually non-existent as it lacks the canards to steer itself into the airflow. This is only exaggerated by the vectored thrust which deviated its control surfaces from trajectory of velocity the second they were launched -- leading to again, an inability to steer itself by the nose back to trajectory of velocity due to the lack of canards and an inability to correct itself Science aside: the comments are pretty funny :)
the reason Egypt is choosing the J10 to replace it's f16 fleet is because the US doesn't allow Egypt to have Amraams on their f16 which means it's obsolete imagine in today's modern era and the Egyptian f16s still operates with sparrows, when you compare it with the J10C equipped with PL-15 yeah fat chance that their F-16 is gonna be anywhere near as good in BVR
That Whole Final Fight had me Laughing. First the Missile Doesn't Work, then he gets into your Control Zone and Misses an Easy Gun Kill, Got Pissed, Shot an Impotent Missile. he got ANGRYER, Shot ANOTHER MISSLE, and your just, Defeated Sigh, immeadially cut off by the Ejection Seat and then NARROWLY AVOID HITTING THE LAST MISSILE. HOLY COW WHAT A "DOGFIGHT"
Would love to see each of these with a plane/pilot swap. So interesting to see how you're applying the pros and cons of each aircraft to maximise the outcome of each engagement. Great video!
What a dynamic in this fight. GS pissed off the F-15 in the first round, it came back super aggressive. Tricked it in the 3rd, F-15 got mad again and made him eat two missiles (second one was personal) in the 4th round. That F-15 has got some anger management issues
Very nice. This is the old J-10, btw. The new one... J-10C (that we in Pakistan bought).... looks a little different and is an upgrade. Looking forward to seeing that in action.
F/a-18 would most likely win in a fox 2 dogfight but the f-35 would have an edge in fox-3 bvr, different planes meant for different purposes. Would still be pretty cool to watch.
@@dioney-be7dm "If I went out and fought an F/A-18 on day one I’d get destroyed," said Flatley. "But if you do what the jet is really good at, you can do things those other jets wouldn’t dream of." This is a quote from Marine Corps Maj. Dan Flatley. Personally I disagree with you. I once had a conversation with a pilot about the F-35A's maneuverability. He said that it flys like or better than a Hornet.
@@FreedomIsNotFree2023 "If I went out and fought an F/A-18 on day one I’d get destroyed," said Flatley. "But if you do what the jet is really good at, you can do things those other jets wouldn’t dream of." This is a quote from Marine Corps Maj. Dan Flatley. Personally I disagree with you. I once had a conversation with a pilot about the F-35A's maneuverability. He said that it flys like or better than a Hornet.
13:21 LOL The cockpit glass is shattered, the plane is doomed and the computer says with the softest possible and quiet voice: "warning" 😂 Also a great scene/view when the second missile hit after that ejection. Br //M
I have heard that the reason the F-15 intakes are shaped the way they are is to serve a secondary function as a leading edge root extension (LERX) to aid high Alpha performance.
You've gotta do a video about the YF-23 as a one man army. Maybe a break through 20 Sukhoi's escorting a bomber fleet or something like that. It'd be super cool to even see the Sukhoi's POV first as they're kinda just helpless against an invisible enemy, idk.
I think the J-10 looks like something a kid assembled out of spare model parts. Goofy as heck. Seems to be a good-flying little airplane, despite that.
My man 😂 the crazy missle glitches are HILARIOUS! 🤣 but also seems like you would have to spend all day launching missles and still never get one, when you think about how many you have fired since the last one
One lesson I always learn from these fights against the Eagle is that if you want to win as an Eagle, you have to be aggressive. You can win an endurance match in the Eagle, sure, but the Eagle retains and regains power very nicely, and being aggressive in the Eagle forces your opponent to trade power for evasion. The Eagle can afford to lose some power in its aggression, but very few opponents can say the same in having to pull evasion.
The Eurofighter doesn't have a DSI intake and it has a different canard configuration. the J-10C has close-coupled canards while the Eurofighter has long-arm canards.
You guys who like comparisons of Soviet and NATO aircraft and fighters and their maneuvers and tactics will love this video. Even you GS, if you haven't seen it yet. (What Was The Soviet Approach to Fighter Pilot Training) UA-cam video
That jet feels a bit like an F-16XL if it was made in China, given the delta wing I could see it on a similar level (maybe not electronics wise) to the Rafale or Gripen. Like an okay 4th gen jet.
The j10c defeated the European Typhoon 9:0 in a multinational exercise in Qatar (dogfight 5:0 and bvr 4:0), and the Typhoon is considered to be superior to the Rafale in air combat (Rafale is multi-purpose)
Isn't it done so that in the Chinese version the harsh accents are sort of softened? The softness feels kinda counterproductive in the translation, lol.
@crossingdragon5032 Real! She's so calm about it too! "Hey, hello! Just to let you know... We're 90° with no speed 🫶 take your time no rush!" American planes would scream at you to move the stick and J-10s are just sitting there in the corner with a smile 😂
5:38 the missile in all account of physics simply Ricocheted off the air into the j-10 breaking one of it's air control surface(on the missile) and then rolled itself into a stall and tried to fix itself mid flight
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Battle of the Canards: A dogfight free-for-all (more than 2 fighters, heaters optional) consisting of a mix of - but not limited to - the J10C Firebird, JAS39E Gripen, Eurofighter Typhoon, SU30SM Flanker-H, and Dassault Rafale. May the best 'nard win.
Apache vs ww2 fighter planes.
GS, it suddenly occurred to me: Your voice is like if your Tactical Instructor’s last job was the night shift DJ at a Cool Jazz radio station. All the info but with a cool, laidback kinda vibe. As you kill off the Enemy.😂
J10 vs. su57 or f22 fox2 😊
In round 1, you didn't really fire that missile, you just set it free to live its best life.
The missile was just pursuing its dreams.
"You can't fire me; I QUIT!"
Came from TEMU maybe?
That missile looked like it's having hangover or still being drunk.
All might the case!!!😂😂😂😂
Here we go, here we go got a fox-2 on him. Fox-2 away.
Fox-2: squirrel!
That first missile didn't know where it wasn't, and couldn't subtract where it wasn't with where it was.
He saw a civilian airliner
It needed a new retro encabulator.
which is called ERROR
About those missing missiles: it's to do with the airspeed they were launched at -- PL-10 has all its control surfaces at the rear of the fuselage, unlike an R-73M or an AIM-9X its ability to maintain controlled flight at low speeds is virtually non-existent as it lacks the canards to steer itself into the airflow. This is only exaggerated by the vectored thrust which deviated its control surfaces from trajectory of velocity the second they were launched -- leading to again, an inability to steer itself by the nose back to trajectory of velocity due to the lack of canards and an inability to correct itself
Science aside: the comments are pretty funny :)
When the missletism kicks in
Looked like that first fox2 was trying to find YOU!
fr looked like it was a boomerang
Made in China
@@yomarashi8272 hahahah for real!
It was intent on killing the nearest heat source!
@@yomarashi8272nope，dcs made in russia ，they won't chinese weapon looks great
the reason Egypt is choosing the J10 to replace it's f16 fleet is because the US doesn't allow Egypt to have Amraams on their f16 which means it's obsolete imagine in today's modern era and the Egyptian f16s still operates with sparrows, when you compare it with the J10C equipped with PL-15 yeah fat chance that their F-16 is gonna be anywhere near as good in BVR
I think thats becaus Egypt need reliable weapons when they have problems with Isreal, middle east Asia countries just dont trust US anymore
4:24 - when the video cut back inside the cockpit, I was fully expecting GS to explode from his own Fox-2 shot finding a new target.
Yeah, I was bracing for the Confused Obama meme to quickly be followed by the Shocked Sully one!
That first missile had ADHD.... look at that fluffy cloud, wait what was I doing?
or was simply made in China?
Those missiles rely on the spirit of mao rising from hell and guiding them, guess he was on smoko break at that time
Not knowing where it isn't.
It locked on its own engine.
😂
I know it is usually not a good idea to root against GS, but I just can't root against the F-15. Sorry, GS.
Agreed.
Agreed. I always root against GS when he's flying non-Nato planes. Just kain't hep it! :)
Personally, I shed a small tear every time I see an Eagle go down 😥
That Whole Final Fight had me Laughing.
First the Missile Doesn't Work, then he gets into your Control Zone and Misses an Easy Gun Kill, Got Pissed, Shot an Impotent Missile. he got ANGRYER, Shot ANOTHER MISSLE, and your just, Defeated Sigh, immeadially cut off by the Ejection Seat and then NARROWLY AVOID HITTING THE LAST MISSILE.
HOLY COW WHAT A "DOGFIGHT"
J-10 vs fulcrum could be cool, clash of the medium Reds.
Wooooo, that's a nice suggestion ! Maybe a Fox 2 fight as well ?
Mom can we get a PL-10 air to air missile?
"We have a PL-10 at home."
The PL-10 at home:
That J-10 has the aliexpress “sidewinders”. Only $4.99 each!
That first missile was like “I’m FRRRRRRRREEEEEEE at last!” 😆
You 1st fox2 said “nope, that f15 be scary”
F-15 "Would you intercept me?"
Temu Fox-2 "Nope!"
Would love to see each of these with a plane/pilot swap. So interesting to see how you're applying the pros and cons of each aircraft to maximise the outcome of each engagement. Great video!
As a retired F-15 crew chief it hurts my heart to see you beat an F-15 but I just think you’re way better than anyone you fight against.
I think it came down to GS being better at aerial gunnery. There were a handful of times the F-15 took a shot and baaaarely missed.
GS always tries to fly the underdog aircrafts as he’s too good
This is the one could use a F16 to beat F35 and F22, so it's just the skill.
A properly modelled J-10 would be cool to see on DCS
All of these are guestimated based on a mixture of popularity and hype.
Not to mention the PLAAF is secretive so it’s hard to get the accuracy close .
The Bluetooth dewice iz ready tu pair😭😂
The J-10 is a bit of an enigma. In one angle it's looks good then it rolls and shows another side and it's ugly.
Su-27 and j-20 do that too, they are really ugly from some angles.
@kksan true. But for the most part I think the SU- birds are pretty sexy
most planes do that, SuperHornet looks goofy as hell from behind
I find that with the F16 its underneath view is ugly but top and front on view it looks fantastic.
What about american jets ?@@kksan
I would love to see you do A-6 intruder missions over Vietnam!!
hell yes
Here's a good suggestion . J-10 Vs SU 30 MKII , J-10 Vs Gripen , J-10 Vs F-15MTD , J-10 Vs F/A-18C Legacy Hornet. Maybe JF-17 vs Eurofighter .
What a dynamic in this fight. GS pissed off the F-15 in the first round, it came back super aggressive. Tricked it in the 3rd, F-15 got mad again and made him eat two missiles (second one was personal) in the 4th round. That F-15 has got some anger management issues
That pl10 was drunk on russian vodka.
House passed HR 1157
Very nice. This is the old J-10, btw. The new one... J-10C (that we in Pakistan bought).... looks a little different and is an upgrade. Looking forward to seeing that in action.
Go to 13:25 for a preview of how it will do.
Upgraded piece of junk , still junk
imagine the ejection seat working 50% of the time..
As long as it works all the time that 50% of the time...
F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New
Day 122
With the F/A 18s high AOA, that might be be a very short fight, if it's a fox-2 fight. But I agree it would be interesting to see.
F/a-18 would most likely win in a fox 2 dogfight but the f-35 would have an edge in fox-3 bvr, different planes meant for different purposes. Would still be pretty cool to watch.
@@dioney-be7dm "If I went out and fought an F/A-18 on day one I’d get destroyed," said Flatley. "But if you do what the jet is really good at, you can do things those other jets wouldn’t dream of." This is a quote from Marine Corps Maj. Dan Flatley.
Personally I disagree with you. I once had a conversation with a pilot about the F-35A's maneuverability. He said that it flys like or better than a Hornet.
@@FreedomIsNotFree2023 "If I went out and fought an F/A-18 on day one I’d get destroyed," said Flatley. "But if you do what the jet is really good at, you can do things those other jets wouldn’t dream of." This is a quote from Marine Corps Maj. Dan Flatley.
Personally I disagree with you. I once had a conversation with a pilot about the F-35A's maneuverability. He said that it flys like or better than a Hornet.
f35 has no chance
I thought that first missile doin 360 and hit yourself from the back lmao
Egypt is getting the J10C to modernize their Air Force
Better choose keep the f16. Egypt got tricked by china
J10 is the Love child of a Mirage and a Euro Fighter.
It looks like the Isreali Lavi fighter they decided not to build.
More like the drunken b*****d of a Typhoon and an F-16 that was raised by Temu.
@@SpaceCase132 😂😂😂
bing chilling F16
The J10 is the successor to the J9, which was a Chinese project in the 1960s. There were no European fighter jets at that time.
11:03 GS is just a master baiter.
🤔
4:15 THE MISSILE KNOWS WHERE IT IS AT ALL TIMES.
The J-10 vs the F-14 would be entertaining. The F-14, while not the best fighter ever produced. It was exceptional for its size
13:21 LOL The cockpit glass is shattered, the plane is doomed and the computer says with the softest possible and quiet voice: "warning" 😂
Also a great scene/view when the second missile hit after that ejection. Br //M
That first missile must have been a Temu version..
You mentioned this dog fight yesterday when I was watching a video. Very cool ❤❤❤ 💯
It looks like a lot of these fights are coming down to your superior skill as a pilot in DCS. I doubt the J-10 is really as good as you're flying it.
To be fair it's the early A model J-10, J-10C would be completely different.
The j10c is definitely as good if not better than the latest version of the f16...
@@joshafc41pfff ft 😂😂😂
@@HailAzathothkeep dreaming.
It's got paper airplane lines if you're into that look.
That missile forgot something.
why no one saying that the f15 pilot is a absolute beast? he knows his shi!!
Your missiles may have been unreliable, but at least your ejection seat worked. 😂
Thank you for the Eagle time GS!
Man, I laughed so hard on that first fox 2 in the first fight, the pip you put there, killed me.
I guess the best time to bail out is right before the second missile hits you.
The f 15 has always been a good one circle fighter! This things body is actually based off an f 16 body with delta wings strapped to it
I absolutely loved that Gif with the crazy missile release. I was thinking the same thing. 😂
That missile was probably confused, it thought maybe it was going to be decoy... or the F-15 ECM/JAM capabilities is just that awesome...
impressive maneuvering!!! This is some of your best technical dogfighting!
I have heard that the reason the F-15 intakes are shaped the way they are is to serve a secondary function as a leading edge root extension (LERX) to aid high Alpha performance.
9:45, bet we were all expecting that mistake, (falling into the 1c for the f15 xDD) all he had to do was keep running circles above you 😭
4:06 Chinese missile incoming, EVERYBODY duck! That was surprisingly unsurprising.
It would have been funny if that missile locked on to you while it was going Su-37 mode.
You've gotta do a video about the YF-23 as a one man army. Maybe a break through 20 Sukhoi's escorting a bomber fleet or something like that. It'd be super cool to even see the Sukhoi's POV first as they're kinda just helpless against an invisible enemy, idk.
The first Fox 2 wanted to do a little dance for you.
"Looks like we have a 50% failure rate on these missiles."
So the Chinese missiles are modeled accurately, anyway. Not the J-10, though.
Would like to see this match again with Toxic or Shotgun in the Eagle.
That Fox-2 really demonstrated all the key elements of Dodgeball
Look at those beautiful contrails showing the rolling scissors. Awesome!
Nice Temu Fox-2 there
I think the J-10 looks like something a kid assembled out of spare model parts. Goofy as heck. Seems to be a good-flying little airplane, despite that.
reminds me more of an Viggen then the eurofighter, atleast if I am judging purely of the looks of the aeroplane, with its single engine
In terms of looks, the J-10 looks like it was exported directly from the original Thunderbirds TV show as one of the non-Thunderbirds fightercraft.
My man 😂 the crazy missle glitches are HILARIOUS! 🤣 but also seems like you would have to spend all day launching missles and still never get one, when you think about how many you have fired since the last one
Pls do j10 vs Su-27, eurofighter and Jf17 vs f16
J10 looks like the Eurofighter had a baby with a Gripen.
The 'Bitching Betty' in the J10 is so polite!
12:55 That missile was struggling crossing the atmosphere😂😂
THE J10 LOOKS LIKE JAS39😂😂😂
That 1st Chinese fox 2 definitely disappointed its parents.
I'm sorry, but as far as looks, I can't excuse the intake design of that Chinese fighter. Same artist as the cyber truck. 😂 Straight edge and a pencil
This is a very old J-10A. not the morden J10
One lesson I always learn from these fights against the Eagle is that if you want to win as an Eagle, you have to be aggressive. You can win an endurance match in the Eagle, sure, but the Eagle retains and regains power very nicely, and being aggressive in the Eagle forces your opponent to trade power for evasion. The Eagle can afford to lose some power in its aggression, but very few opponents can say the same in having to pull evasion.
Because J10 has a single engine, DSI intake and canard setup, it looks very strangly with a Euro Fighter vibe.
The Eurofighter doesn't have a DSI intake and it has a different canard configuration. the J-10C has close-coupled canards while the Eurofighter has long-arm canards.
From below, when you can't see the air intake clearly, it reminds me of the Gripen.
J-10 series especially J-10C is one of the best fighter interceptors in modern air warfare.
Seems like the majority of the F-15’s strengths are it’s stand off capability with its radar, which is obviously negated in a merge fight 🤷🏻♂️
lol...that Fox-2 had a lock on its own exhaust
Those missiles that failed were the ones you get for free for ordering the jet from Temu
I think a su47 vs felon fight would be really cool, surprised no one has done it.
That missile definitely knows where it is
I would love to see an F4 vs F1 Mirage fight from either perspective.
The first Fox 2 must have been a missile from Wish.
You guys who like comparisons of Soviet and NATO aircraft and fighters and their maneuvers and tactics will love this video. Even you GS, if you haven't seen it yet. (What Was The Soviet Approach to Fighter Pilot Training) UA-cam video
The J-10 looks like a Saab J-37 got knocked up by an F-16
I swear that I saw a round hit that missile during a gun run.
I was just thinking today at work that the F-15 STOL/MTD vs the J-10 would be a good match up, close enough!
I don’t know if Egypt really want the J10 they already have the Rafale ❤️
8:35 Egypt is considering buying J10s instead of upgrading some of the F16 fleet
That jet feels a bit like an F-16XL if it was made in China, given the delta wing I could see it on a similar level (maybe not electronics wise) to the Rafale or Gripen. Like an okay 4th gen jet.
Not at all
These simulations are very nice, but I would have loved to see how you guys reacted to the G loads in a real fight in real fighters.
J10 lowkey looks like some chinese kid did it in ksp (in a good way tho)
My girlfriend asked me what I was watching when I laughed about that first missile!
The F-15 turned into a dom goth mommy that second round, he didnt let you do anything
Ordering missiles from Temu is a losing proposition.
J10c Vs. Rafael's One circle Please Bro Fans would Gonna Love it
Griffin vs J10c will be also Epic 👌🔥🔥🤷
The j10c defeated the European Typhoon 9:0 in a multinational exercise in Qatar (dogfight 5:0 and bvr 4:0), and the Typhoon is considered to be superior to the Rafale in air combat (Rafale is multi-purpose)
I love how nice the J-10s "voice" sounds
"Hey I know your blood is currently becoming jelly but, if you could just pull up a little that'd be nice 🙂"
Isn't it done so that in the Chinese version the harsh accents are sort of softened? The softness feels kinda counterproductive in the translation, lol.
@@dawidkiller I dunno, but I definitely don't want gentle relaxing ASMR when my plane is coming undone XD
I’m falling in love with “ Angle of attack 😇”
@crossingdragon5032 Real! She's so calm about it too! "Hey, hello! Just to let you know... We're 90° with no speed 🫶 take your time no rush!"
American planes would scream at you to move the stick and J-10s are just sitting there in the corner with a smile 😂
J-10 looks like it was made from spare parts.
Amazing as always 👍
5:38 the missile in all account of physics simply Ricocheted off the air into the j-10 breaking one of it's air control surface(on the missile) and then rolled itself into a stall and tried to fix itself mid flight
4:05 GODDAMN CITY MISSILE!!!