2005 Crown Victoria and Grand Marquis were weird transitional years for the Panther Platform

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  • @tooslow01
    @tooslow01 2 роки тому +41

    Truly an American original and iconic piece of automotive history.

  • @ralphabreu5022
    @ralphabreu5022 2 роки тому +10

    America needs to build this again.
    The golden age of automotive excellence

  • @salehnz7630
    @salehnz7630 2 роки тому +25

    Man I love these cars, I don't care about the mileage as long as im driving on the clouds.

  • @shaunedwards4893
    @shaunedwards4893 Рік тому +6

    I have a 2005 grand marquis. Love the shifter and the rack and pinion. Handles really well.

  • @geraldscott4302
    @geraldscott4302 Рік тому +6

    The 2003 and up are significantly better than the 2002 and older models. I have a 2006 and 2007. The "new "hydroformed" front subframe is a HUGE deal. It is stronger than most trucks. And gone are the cheap flimsy stamped steel front control arms. In their places are big, beefy hydroformed aluminum control arms. Again, stronger than many trucks. And they now came with front coilovers, rather than separate springs and shocks. The new front end was designed to take one hell of a beating. But it doesn't stop there. The rear trailing arms, that were made out of two pieces of stamped steel welded together, are also made of very thick, solid, one piece hydroformed parts. And then there was the new rack and pinion steering that would easily last past 400,000 miles, and just to put icing on the cake, that switched from drum from brakes in 2002 to disc brakes in the rear in 2003, so all 2003 and newer models have 4 wheel discs. Now, there is nothing really wrong with the 2002 and older models, they are still WAY better than anything you can buy new today, but they will require more maintenance and repairs. The front suspension and steering will need to be rebuilt once before 400,000 miles, The rear brakes will need more work, and the front frame will never be as strong as the 2003 and newer models, but that shouldn't be a problem with normal driving, and the 2002 and older models do have a slightly softer ride.

  • @mr.carguy3161
    @mr.carguy3161 Рік тому +6

    2005 was the last year for the red taillight reflectors on the trunk lid. In 2006 they changed to the gray ones. And the square grille and headlights.
    Personally, I like the ‘05 look better.

  • @rick0e295
    @rick0e295 11 місяців тому +1

    Had 2007 GRAND MARQUIS before getting my 2007 Town Car Signature Limited. Both great cars. They will last forever when properly cared for. BUT my previous 89 Town Car Signature and Crown Victoria LX were a more traditional, chrome trimmed OTT excessive luxury version of the Panther platform. One of FMCS biggest mistake was dropping these final American luxury sedans.

  • @whiteclothministries5682
    @whiteclothministries5682 2 роки тому +9

    I own this car mine is silver chrome hub caps extremely clean 89k miles. I love this car literally. I want more I’ll never buy another kind of car unless it’s a truck. These are solid cars heavy doors etc. Great info.

  • @sthind
    @sthind Рік тому +3

    I bought a 2003 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE. Only a few thousand were built. It was the pre -Marauder.

  • @tubebobwil
    @tubebobwil Рік тому +1

    I absolutely love my digital cluster on my 2001. It's so useable.

  • @stevenbaker9327
    @stevenbaker9327 2 роки тому +3

    2006 crown Vic. Mint...second owner! First owner was a Pastor...garage kept never out in bad weather. The underside is as mimt as the rest of the car! Love the old beast!

  • @antownemercer7552
    @antownemercer7552 2 роки тому +8

    I have a 2005 Mercury Grand Marquis right now with 40k original miles. It's been great so far.

  • @patrickstar1439
    @patrickstar1439 2 роки тому +7

    Beautiful car.
    The headlights changed to a more squared shape after 2005.

  • @kryptikus29
    @kryptikus29 6 місяців тому

    Enjoying my '05 Grand Marquis, I learned in a 2000 and the 2005 had some differences. Love that different steering column and the feel of the ride! Great American Classic car!

  • @00buck2
    @00buck2 Рік тому +1

    Best cars ever made, Getting a average of 24.6 M.P.G everyday driving close to 30 on open road 07 town car. What a smooth ride.

  • @grovermayersjr8025
    @grovermayersjr8025 2 роки тому +6

    I have a 2005 Mercury Grand Marquis LS Premium with almost every option including 5 passenger seating and a power moonroof. It's the same as a Crown Victoria LX Sport. Has factory dual exhaust and the slightly more powerful 4.6 V8 engine. I'm with you, I wish mine had the digital cluster. 2005 was a weird year for the Ford Panther Platform. My car a power antenna. I don't think they were offered on 2005 models at all. Great video and I love my Panther!

    • @craigcricket7932
      @craigcricket7932 2 роки тому

      I have (2) 2005 crown Vic sports. One has a sunroof.

    • @philipthomas6808
      @philipthomas6808 2 роки тому +2

      I've got an 05 LS premium as well, but unfortunately mine does not have a moonroof... I've got just about every other option including rear air suspension, 6 Disc indash CD changer or Audiophile system, and the very rare but desirable Trunk organizer, oddly enough it has the mini spare tire, go figure?🙄🛠️

    • @Buick54
      @Buick54 Рік тому +1

      @@philipthomas6808 You ought to be glad it doesn't have a moonroof as over time they go bad and leak when it rains. One less thing to worry about.

    • @xx_Mr_IQ_xx
      @xx_Mr_IQ_xx Рік тому +1

      05 cvlx sport

  • @kermitefrog64
    @kermitefrog64 5 місяців тому

    I have the 2005 Mercury Grand Marquis LS. These are great cars. I am very impressed with the way these cars drive.

  • @luthermoore2969
    @luthermoore2969 2 роки тому +5

    I have 3 panther cars. All pre 99 which my 99 is the latest model I have. I have never seen the issue with the steering setup of the early models. You can't beat these engines not a powerhouse by any means but very reliable

  • @samwalker7821
    @samwalker7821 Рік тому +2

    I've got an 89' gran Marquis an 84 Crown Vic and hope I can keep them forever. The older ones are so easy to service and keep running. I can't imagine the digital instrument cluster on the newer ones being available when they fail or any of the other electronic controls. Mechanical linkage and instruments can be repaired and both cars only have one simple computer for the EFI.

  • @WJHandyDad
    @WJHandyDad 2 роки тому +5

    great trip down memory lane. Me personally I would not buy a 2005 because I hate having a radio antenna on a vehicle

    • @LimitedEditionMotorcars
      @LimitedEditionMotorcars  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Gary. It's a hit or miss with antenna people. I personally don't like it but some people do.

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin 2 роки тому +2

      You know you can add Bluetooth from the aftermarket and then get rid of the antenna to give you're car a much cleaner look, I did that with my 1996 Ford F150 and it worked out great.

  • @mrhombregordo9556
    @mrhombregordo9556 2 роки тому +1

    I have an 05 GM and I totally love it and pray that I keep it forever❤️💯

  • @2006Mercury
    @2006Mercury Рік тому +1

    I've got an 06 of the same color and it's incredible I like all the years but I prefer the 06 and up because of the better steering and suspension

  • @pstreetgarage7304
    @pstreetgarage7304 2 роки тому +6

    Nice car. Only you would know about the antenna placement lol.
    Those panthers cars just keep creeping back in to your life it seems. 🤪

  • @alamedacustomholsters
    @alamedacustomholsters 2 роки тому +3

    Your knowledge of vehicles blows my mind, Cordova used to be the cats meow in it’s day.👊

    • @LimitedEditionMotorcars
      @LimitedEditionMotorcars  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you sir, much appreciate the kind words.
      Cordobas where definitely the shiznet back in the day. I can't remember the last time I actually saw one in the wild.

  • @ccscomments757
    @ccscomments757 5 місяців тому

    I have the Crown Vic with under 60K miles. Its buttery smooth, and can be assertive when the horses are needed.

  • @floribertosousa2251
    @floribertosousa2251 2 роки тому +4

    I would like one day to own a 2005 Gran Marquis that I can "afford"with that digital dashboard,...I also love the digital.
    Great 👍 video,..Thanks.

  • @CJColvin
    @CJColvin 2 роки тому +2

    The Ford Panther Platform cars (Ford Crownvic, Mercury Grand Marquis, and Lincoln Town Car) is the toughest Platform Ford has ever made and those 4.6L SOHC 2V Modular V8s will definitely outlast any EcoBoost engine Ford makes with ease.

  • @MSX98FMDnB
    @MSX98FMDnB 2 роки тому +3

    honestly id rather have a 2002 over a 2005 panther

  • @EnthusiastCarHangar
    @EnthusiastCarHangar 2 роки тому +4

    Honestly I love the in the window integrated antennas. My 92 had an automatic antenna with a button to press and I did not like it. My Mercedes has an automatic one that comes out everyone you turn the radio on and I hate that as well.

    • @LimitedEditionMotorcars
      @LimitedEditionMotorcars  2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, it's a hit or miss with people but I also prefer in window antennas. Less parts, less holes, less stuff to mess with.

  • @CREATINELUSTER
    @CREATINELUSTER 2 роки тому +5

    2005 seemed to have lots batches of soft rear axles which the bearings ate very quickly. They also added a passenger airbag sensor light, changed the front seat wiring harness connectors and the dash trim is slightly different sizes (probably to accommodate the new steering column as you mentioned). Lots of vacuum / fuel lines in the engine bay now have quick connectors and are plastic that don't rot out (except one for the DPFE which finally changed in 2009). The zip tube is unique to 2005.

  • @LITTLE1994
    @LITTLE1994 2 роки тому +4

    I've always thought 1992 was the strangest year of the Panther platform...

  • @Kuson2
    @Kuson2 9 місяців тому

    Lucky for me, I love Denny's AND Panther cars, guess I'm an ULTIMATE kind of guy lmao

  • @brianhudson6470
    @brianhudson6470 Рік тому

    Man that car is so clean I want one so bad

  • @thomasdearment3214
    @thomasdearment3214 2 роки тому

    had a digital cluster on a 87 Mercury Sable LOVED it , wow they have one on a Grand Marquis where do I buy one, mine is dials

  • @frankhassett2496
    @frankhassett2496 2 роки тому +1

    I think the transmission for the '05 MGM/CV was for that year only also.(without having to modify)

  • @WFO.
    @WFO. Рік тому +1

    I’ve owned two 2003 MGM’s. Still have one a it’s an excellent car with just 58k miles. I’ve put 10k on it on one year. Find a one owner by the older and passing generation. They took car of their cars!

  • @EnthusiastCarHangar
    @EnthusiastCarHangar 2 роки тому +4

    Also I completely agree on the digital clusters! This one looks exactly like the one I had in my 92 Vic. See my video.

    • @LimitedEditionMotorcars
      @LimitedEditionMotorcars  2 роки тому +3

      Love digital clusters. They just look awesome.

    • @keithbassett4988
      @keithbassett4988 2 роки тому

      @@LimitedEditionMotorcars I'm a MGM geek myself and have 2....a 1998 GS and a 2006 LS. Both are good cars. The '98 is my daily driver. To be so big it is pretty reasonable on fuel and I love the ride. It has 215,000 miles and runs super smooth. I favor the old analog guage cluster on my GS over the digital display cluster. It just seems more sporty and less dated IMO. But I will admit if I could get a digital display in my 2006 LS I would take it. I don't know why Ford thought that us older folks, who wanted a full size RWD sedan with a V8 engine, would need or want a tachometer on a grandma grocery getter. I think the later style instrument clusters with message center in the center, which are unilaterally used on the Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis, and the Lincoln Towncar on 2006 and up, are dated. The design resembles some of the clusters from the Chevy Caprice back in the 80's. But these are durable cars that are tough and easy on the wallet. Thanks for the video.

    • @jackwilson4722
      @jackwilson4722 Рік тому

      I have a 2005 tc... it came with 17 inch wheels and 13. 16. Lug nuts...mine just a plain signature series...

  • @EnthusiastCarHangar
    @EnthusiastCarHangar 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video as always!

  • @johngaltline9933
    @johngaltline9933 2 роки тому +2

    I don't know that I'd call the 06+ TC cluster an upgrade. Owning an 05 and 06 TC, I greatly prefer the 05's cluster. The 06 added a tach, which is kinda nice, but actually useless in this sort of car, but as a trade off they made it so you have to toggle through the odometer, MPG, Mileage remaining and such. I find it super annoying that I can't just look at the odometer without having to press a button. Also, not sure if it is that way on all 06+ models or just the designer series I have, but the red needles on the 06 look really out of place and jarring against the light green of everything else.
    The other super annoying "improvement" in the 06 model that the 05 and earlier doesn't have is the 'engine braking' when using cruise control. Rather than just coasting down hill the transmission will remain locked and down shift to try and slow the car if it is going about 3 MPH above the cruise setting. It isn't actually enough drag to keep the car at the set speed so all you get is an annoying, hard, downshift that doesn't do anything but make you think the trans is broken.
    If you want a panther, the 05 Town car is the best of the lot.

  • @JuniorFan08
    @JuniorFan08 6 місяців тому

    Pretty sure my '95 Crown Vic had 4 wheel disc brakes. I had the electric cluster in my '93 Cougar and loved it. Was very disappointed when Ford discontinued it. I also prefer the older analog cluster in my '95 as it had gauges instead of idiot lights. They did away with some of the gauges to put in a tach in 2005. Personally, I could never see the point of a tachometer in a car with an automatic trans. I'd much rather have a full set of gauges.

  • @sirj9
    @sirj9 6 місяців тому

    Excellent video. Thank you.

  • @DaniDaniel1978
    @DaniDaniel1978 2 роки тому +3

    Great video!!

  • @ParissaKhoury
    @ParissaKhoury 7 місяців тому

    I'm in the market for a Town Car Long Wheel Base. Which year is the best one to get???

  • @BBT609
    @BBT609 2 роки тому

    Wheel sizes went up as well. 2005 was the last year for 16s on the Vic before hitting 17s
    Lincoln town car followed suit a year later in 2007, Marquis is 2008.
    They all went from 225/60r16 to 235/55r17 (CVPI & CV) and 225/60r17 for the rest.

    • @LimitedEditionMotorcars
      @LimitedEditionMotorcars  2 роки тому +2

      16" wheels were available on civilian Crown Vics until sometime in 2008. (Same style wheel you see on the car in the video).

    • @BBT609
      @BBT609 2 роки тому +1

      @@LimitedEditionMotorcars interesting 🤨 I know mines are 16 until 2006, they switched up on the CVPI that year until 2011

    • @LimitedEditionMotorcars
      @LimitedEditionMotorcars  2 роки тому

      @@BBT609 Yes, the CVPI's were switched to 17s until the end.

  • @vegascvpiaaron4026
    @vegascvpiaaron4026 2 роки тому

    Idk about the Merc and some of the crown vics but the p71s changed their steelies from 16 inch in 05 to 17 in 06

  • @Christianpreaching
    @Christianpreaching 2 роки тому +4

    The car is not slow

    • @josepmckoon948
      @josepmckoon948 2 роки тому

      Uhh yea it is to today's standards . My 3.7 v6 grand Cherokee will outrun it . 0-60 in about 9seconds . Not fast . But don't get me wrong . They are strong , powerful . But not fast

    • @dannylay7965
      @dannylay7965 2 роки тому

      @@josepmckoon948 my 2001 Lincoln Town car Cartier did 0-60 in 7.5 seconds with daul exhaust. 235 hp I have a town car limo now, it does 0-60 in 9 seconds.

  • @victormalgieri7733
    @victormalgieri7733 Рік тому

    I don't think anyone mentioned the crome interior door handles new for 05

  • @BeardedBlaxican
    @BeardedBlaxican 2 роки тому +1

    I have a 2005 MGM ultimate in birch silver fully loaded mines has a moonroof and different rims compared to this one also my interior is black

  • @tedlahm5740
    @tedlahm5740 Рік тому

    Customer complaints about the AM reception in the cars?
    Went with the antenna.

  • @stevewilliams3850
    @stevewilliams3850 Рік тому

    Limited Edition Motorcars : I love this video. I have a 2011 Crown Victoria LX; the luxury edition. I have the kick ass five spoke aluminum rims. They came with the car. I love my Crown Vic. My father had a 2001, Grand Marquis LS, which he traded for a 2008 Grand Marquis; and both cars had a compass in the rear view mirror. Daddy traded his 2008 Grand Marquis in on this 2011 Crown Vic. And the Crown Vic doesn't have that compass in the rear view mirror. I figured that since the Crown Vic is the LX, the luxury edition, it would have had the compass in the rear view mirror. Is there some way I could get that rear view mirror with the compass, for my Crown Vic? and would it work?

  • @boomvoyaj9998
    @boomvoyaj9998 3 місяці тому

    I would like to buy one, but I am afraid of heat and fan problems

  • @imserious2187
    @imserious2187 6 місяців тому

    I'm currently looking at one exactly like this, except it already has whitewalls on it, 120k and the seller wants 6k

  • @dankolbenschlag2188
    @dankolbenschlag2188 2 роки тому

    Hi. I like your video..
    I own a 96' Grand Marquis
    In very good condition.
    Do you feel this model year will appreciate in value over time? Is it worth hanging on to long term?

    • @LimitedEditionMotorcars
      @LimitedEditionMotorcars  2 роки тому

      None of them are worth hanging on to. They are not collector cars and never will be.

  • @waynemullally6423
    @waynemullally6423 2 роки тому +1

    The Panthers are slowly disappearing around me in Toronto, but strangely more than ever people look automatically, is that an unmarked cop?

    • @lapoose325
      @lapoose325 Рік тому

      people around the GTA would rather drive soulless crossovers than something with some substance to it.

  • @tomgreve8014
    @tomgreve8014 Рік тому

    How rare was the light tundra clear coat mettalic paint in 05?

  • @unlimitedgravy52
    @unlimitedgravy52 2 роки тому

    It's also worth mentioning that 90% of Panthers that suffered from transmission problems were 2005's

  • @mrteachme101
    @mrteachme101 2 роки тому

    Owned a 99, 03, 05 and and 08. Still driving the 08. Not sure what transitions were "weird." The changes were so subtle between all of them, the average person wouldn't have the slightest clue what actually changed on them. Every year the car just got better and better. Discontinuing them and the Town Car was one of Ford's biggest mistakes for the long-term, repeat customer that has since switched to Buick or Cadillac to find the similar standards and levels of comfort. And, those cars are far from slow.

  • @strumminandwrenchin9162
    @strumminandwrenchin9162 Рік тому

    If my fuel gage on the digital cluster on my 98 was working properly, i’d appreciate it otherwise its crap.

  • @paulchandler427
    @paulchandler427 2 роки тому

    Thank u Sir > im shopping 4 G M at the moment. Knew I didn't want 05 cause of ant. Did Not know 05 last yr for digital dash

  • @tedlahm5740
    @tedlahm5740 Рік тому

    2009 they raised the pedals higher from the floor? comment please

    • @Kuson2
      @Kuson2 9 місяців тому +1

      An 09 should have adjustable pedals, or at least it was an option.

  • @scottmiller8791
    @scottmiller8791 2 роки тому

    They upgraded the transmission in 2005 as well from the 4r70 to the 4r75

  • @800624
    @800624 3 місяці тому

    Have an 05 Marquis we bought new. Came complete with a bent wheel, driveshaft vibration, defective light control module. Engine began to idle high upon starting and now has a noise in the top end. Steering rack wore out before 100k miles. Water pump leaked before 100k miles. Radiator fan blade broke. AC leaked refrigerant. Now has 209k miles and still running. These cars are not trouble free. Hated this car from day one. Had a 94 Crown Vic we bought new. Ten times better car. Always was smooth and dead quiet. This is the wifes car. I drive a 67 Mustang fastback that has 525000 miles on it and never breaks.

  • @rickymack2611
    @rickymack2611 2 роки тому

    I'v had one car with a digital cluster, a 92 Riviera. Was great till the whole dam thing burned out

  • @buckwheat2174
    @buckwheat2174 Рік тому +1

    Aye yall, I just picked up a 2003 mercury Marquis n have been watching the vids... why do y'all call the mercury and crown vic ... panther s?

    • @tedlahm5740
      @tedlahm5740 11 місяців тому +1

      the factory designation.

    • @Kuson2
      @Kuson2 9 місяців тому +1

      Thats the name of the platform.

  • @MeNitoA66
    @MeNitoA66 Рік тому

    You missed the chrome interior handles bro.

  • @ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow
    @ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow 11 місяців тому

    How bad is the gas mileage on these things?

    • @Kuson2
      @Kuson2 9 місяців тому

      17 city and 22 highway if you go light. If you got an older one that needs a tune up and have a heavy foot like me, more like 9 city and 17 highway lol

  • @emaadalooo1726
    @emaadalooo1726 Рік тому +2

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  • @thetraveler2561
    @thetraveler2561 Рік тому

    I have a 2005 Ultimate Gold Edition with the Landau top ....bought it used last summer. The only issue so far is the same issue I had with the 97 LS I had.....the damn electronic climate control. Ford in their wisdom still using the electronic vacuum for climate control. These units still have be changed out when the vacuum fails and the 97's you cannot find anymore without paying 400-500 bucks. I just had to by a new climate control for 127.00. I am glad the 2005 does have the rack & pinion...had the 97 front end worked on a few times costing me 1000.00 +

    • @LimitedEditionMotorcars
      @LimitedEditionMotorcars  Рік тому

      You don't have to replace the climate control unit. All that fails inside are the o-rings. Takes a few bucks and 30 minutes of your time to replace. See this video: ua-cam.com/video/PtfucNa6R_o/v-deo.html

  • @joseantoniodelsolar7458
    @joseantoniodelsolar7458 2 роки тому

    Is the Grand Marquis available ??

  • @skipmangone9514
    @skipmangone9514 2 роки тому

    How much for the Mercury?

    • @LimitedEditionMotorcars
      @LimitedEditionMotorcars  2 роки тому

      It is going to the auction on Thursday but you can reach out via website if you want it. www.LEmotorcars.com

  • @frederickrichardson6642
    @frederickrichardson6642 Рік тому

    It is not the same airbag the reason they redesigned the steering column was to make the airbag bigger. Duh, the reason I know is because I’ve wrecked one.

  • @derrickjackson6737
    @derrickjackson6737 2 роки тому

    Grand Marquies LS ultimate Edition semi luxury

  • @ladin425
    @ladin425 2 роки тому

    my friend has recently purchased a 2000 mercury grand marquis, which has caused my interest to peak with these cars. 1st, how rare was the sunroof option on these cars because I only recall seeing them on the lincolns. 2. why did ford choose to do a body on frame with these cars because they look almost look they have a unibody construction without the typical front and rear frame horns.

  • @j.t.cooper2963
    @j.t.cooper2963 2 роки тому +2

    Hydro formed steel frame. A Hydro formed steel frame is much better than a stamped steel frame. No gimmick there like Chrysler and their "Corinthian" leather BS.

  • @michaeluholik8069
    @michaeluholik8069 Місяць тому

    Go fight win great cars room decent gas milage nice ride easy 2 work on paid 8500 4 a 205 last year ultimate with moon john 78th on it very depentable dont be afrsid 2 pay they are longevity machines not no youg kid drove buick 225 and caddilac and lincolns ltds luv the merc marg

  • @alan102549
    @alan102549 2 роки тому +1

    FFS Stop talking with your hands, its a terrible distraction!

  • @raycoleman3183
    @raycoleman3183 Рік тому +1

    your exceedingly liberal use of the word ‘weird’ is ridiculous. Minor differences, at worst, and inconsequential overall. This video is irrelevant.

  • @davidgoodnight5884
    @davidgoodnight5884 Рік тому +1

    You are boring to listen to. I have a 2005 Mercury Grand Marquis 30th anniversary edition. And runs and drives great.