That version of Invention #13 in A minor brought so many memories flooding back. I used the advanced version a bunch, as I was able to purchase a book and disk together. My local bookstore never carried All About The C64 volume 2. I was aware of it from my Compute!'s Gazette subscription. How I wanted that book! Thanks again for an absolutely amazing video.
What a great video -- I've never messed with the editors before; loved seeing those. I added a second SID to my C128 in the early 90s, and my fav sids were the stereo Commodore theme, Axel-F, 76 Trombones, and a song called "Grandfather's Clock".
2024: I loved Compute! Mag.! My dad would read the code and I would type it. Then came the streamlined "checksum" keyed entry, which meant fewer typos.
Using the SID Player Editor, I'm receiving an "Illegal Duration Error" when attempting to use eighth notes. It happens if I set the tempo to 160, but doesn't happen if I use a lower tempo like 100 or omit it entirely. Edit: Actually, I found a newer (ml-based) version of Craig Chamberlain's player/editor and the problem seems to be fixed. It's also a LOT faster than the Basic version.
The first editor in BASIC was slowww... and the music player while it worked, had some limitations and bugs (like you pointed out). I had a-lot of fun seeing where it all started. However, as you noticed in the followup book 'Compute's Music System For The Commodore 128 & 64': the new M/L Editor (Like you experienced, easily 10x faster) and enhanced playback routines were much more powerful and (bug free?) Thanks for watching!
Nice job on that video; the amount of time spent must have been 10x. Peanuts is the first song that I learned to play with two hands back in 1985 or so, and I had a SID Player that was fairly plain looking but DID have a dual keyboard on he screen. Does anybody know what player that was and where to find it? It DID play MUS files and I had a bunch of them. I'm pretty sure this is well prior to the availability of dual SID or any 'scene' so-to speak. Thank you for this video, I will link to it when I publish something related on my channel. Keep up the good work.
Awesome! One of my favorite programs of all time. SO much fun translating songs back then. Most of my download time on Q-Link was spent downloading sid files (.mus). When words and pics were added it was an amazing time. Thanks for the awesome video, as always.
At first it was EBBS by Ed Parry, and then CNET 12 (on a 1670 1200). For a very short time I had it running on an Aprotek 2400 before migrating it to a PC BBS running Telegard. In the last year of its existence, I tried other BBS software and when it finally came to an end it was running BBS software that I wrote but never released to the public. By then, it was clear BBSes were no longer relevant. Biggest regret by far was not keeping any of the data or software for any of it. It's all just really good memories. All that remains now is the ANSI art from the logon that I found on the internet a few years ago. I was hoping someone had the C64 logon art archived somewhere, but no luck. Master Computer BBS in Long Island, NY. If my memory is correct, I ran it from 1986 - 1994.
@@MyDeveloperThoughts wow, I too lived on Long Island in the 70’s-2019. I used to love logging on to BBSes. My favorite was The Gull, The Mental Ward, The Other Side of the Spectrum with Joe Moon III and a few others. My favorite BBS programs were C-Net and ARB.
@@Programmingthe6502 Thats awesome. I was in Nassau County and some of the boards that come to mind were Laser, Centricom, Stormfront, WWIII and Greyhawk. Great memories
@@MyDeveloperThoughts I too was in Nassau County on the North Shore by Glen Cove. Great times. WWIV was a great board. I currently have CNet 12.1 that I am trying to resurrect and also Wildcat! that i will be getting online soon. I am having issues with the ML on CNet 12.1 to make it work with swiftlink and the y2k.
How about a link to let us download then programs, so we don't have to type it all in? The link currently in the description has nothing about actually downloading the software- it appears to be just songs.
Let me see if I can find a spot to upload the .d64. I'll probably end up putting it on my github. In the short term, if you (or anyone else) would like a copy of the .d64, feel free to send me an email and I'll send you a copy. My Email address is in the UA-cam channel about box.
7:33 Previously sid.obj was 7 blocks. Here we see you have to add another 650 bytes (3 sectors). After, the sid.ob remains at 7 blocks. What's up with that?
That version of Invention #13 in A minor brought so many memories flooding back.
I used the advanced version a bunch, as I was able to purchase a book and disk together.
My local bookstore never carried All About The C64 volume 2. I was aware of it from my Compute!'s Gazette subscription. How I wanted that book!
Thanks again for an absolutely amazing video.
That's a very impressive program for BASIC with line numbers. The SID chip sounds good too.
Great video! I use the SID Player a lot for music in my programs. 🙂
What a great video -- I've never messed with the editors before; loved seeing those.
I added a second SID to my C128 in the early 90s, and my fav sids were the stereo Commodore theme, Axel-F, 76 Trombones, and a song called "Grandfather's Clock".
Awesome video! Thank you. Brought back a lot of memories with the C64
Great content as always. Please NEVER stop making these videos!
Thanks for enjoying these! I can't wait to get the next video up.
2024: I loved Compute! Mag.! My dad would read the code and I would type it. Then came the streamlined "checksum" keyed entry, which meant fewer typos.
Using the SID Player Editor, I'm receiving an "Illegal Duration Error" when attempting to use eighth notes. It happens if I set the tempo to 160, but doesn't happen if I use a lower tempo like 100 or omit it entirely.
Edit: Actually, I found a newer (ml-based) version of Craig Chamberlain's player/editor and the problem seems to be fixed. It's also a LOT faster than the Basic version.
The first editor in BASIC was slowww... and the music player while it worked, had some limitations and bugs (like you pointed out). I had a-lot of fun seeing where it all started.
However, as you noticed in the followup book 'Compute's Music System For The Commodore 128 & 64': the new M/L Editor (Like you experienced, easily 10x faster) and enhanced playback routines were much more powerful and (bug free?) Thanks for watching!
Nice job on that video; the amount of time spent must have been 10x. Peanuts is the first song that I learned to play with two hands back in 1985 or so, and I had a SID Player that was fairly plain looking but DID have a dual keyboard on he screen. Does anybody know what player that was and where to find it? It DID play MUS files and I had a bunch of them. I'm pretty sure this is well prior to the availability of dual SID or any 'scene' so-to speak. Thank you for this video, I will link to it when I publish something related on my channel. Keep up the good work.
Thanks! I"m pretty sure the first MUS file I ever heard was the theme song to Airwolf.
Awesome! One of my favorite programs of all time. SO much fun translating songs back then. Most of my download time on Q-Link was spent downloading sid files (.mus). When words and pics were added it was an amazing time. Thanks for the awesome video, as always.
Very impressive! You mentioned that you ran a BBS, what BBS program did you use at the time?
At first it was EBBS by Ed Parry, and then CNET 12 (on a 1670 1200). For a very short time I had it running on an Aprotek 2400 before migrating it to a PC BBS running Telegard. In the last year of its existence, I tried other BBS software and when it finally came to an end it was running BBS software that I wrote but never released to the public. By then, it was clear BBSes were no longer relevant.
Biggest regret by far was not keeping any of the data or software for any of it. It's all just really good memories. All that remains now is the ANSI art from the logon that I found on the internet a few years ago. I was hoping someone had the C64 logon art archived somewhere, but no luck.
Master Computer BBS in Long Island, NY.
If my memory is correct, I ran it from 1986 - 1994.
@@MyDeveloperThoughts wow, I too lived on Long Island in the 70’s-2019. I used to love logging on to BBSes. My favorite was The Gull, The Mental Ward, The Other Side of the Spectrum with Joe Moon III and a few others. My favorite BBS programs were C-Net and ARB.
@@Programmingthe6502 Thats awesome. I was in Nassau County and some of the boards that come to mind were Laser, Centricom, Stormfront, WWIII and Greyhawk. Great memories
@@MyDeveloperThoughts I too was in Nassau County on the North Shore by Glen Cove. Great times. WWIV was a great board. I currently have CNet 12.1 that I am trying to resurrect and also Wildcat! that i will be getting online soon. I am having issues with the ML on CNet 12.1 to make it work with swiftlink and the y2k.
How about a link to let us download then programs, so we don't have to type it all in? The link currently in the description has nothing about actually downloading the software- it appears to be just songs.
Let me see if I can find a spot to upload the .d64. I'll probably end up putting it on my github.
In the short term, if you (or anyone else) would like a copy of the .d64, feel free to send me an email and I'll send you a copy. My Email address is in the UA-cam channel about box.
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7:33 Previously sid.obj was 7 blocks. Here we see you have to add another 650 bytes (3 sectors). After, the sid.ob remains at 7 blocks. What's up with that?
Great question: The 10 block version that is created from sid.obj is saved as editor.obj. editor.obj is used by editor, and sid.obj is used by player.