My Gita - Devdutt Pattanaik with Baradwaj Rangan
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- Опубліковано 1 гру 2024
- The Hindu Lit for Life 2016, South India's biggest literature festival was held on Jan 15, 16 & 17 at Sir Mutha Venkatasubba Rao Concert Hall, Chetpet, Chennai, India.
Friday, January 15: My Gita: Devdutt Pattanaik - Introduced by Baradwaj Rangan
Devdutt Pattanaik began the session by explaining the title of his latest book, My Gita, which aimed at provoking the reader to picking up a copy of the book.
Davedutt has many factual errors in My Gita. Don't know why he is so glamorised by media.
care to elaborate? Otherwise, it's a baseless accusation
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@@vaishnava-das5794DAS thanks, saw this after my previous comment and now I am mindful of cross-checking Devdut's explanation before accepting them. Good work by Nityanada
He adds all the masala and entertainment that's the reason at the cost of facts. Really unfortunate
@@amolguruji both are almost same. devadutta is idiot.
Gita is such a holy book and it must not be made a fiction book in one's own writing
He didn't make his own writing. You should try reading the book to understand better. Devdutt simply presented Gita from his perspective. Everyone does that, dear Jassi. The truth perceived differs from individual to individual.
@@cypher3643 Glad to have survived Covid holocaust to have received a reply over a 3 yrs old comment. Yeah, i somehow find time to comment but reading a holy book isn't my cup of tea
Have you guys seen demolishing devdutt patnaik better watch it and open your eyes and
He has no authority to present Gita according to himself but if he presents then he should acknowledge that this is a fiction book
You need to get over yourself jassi ji
Now after watching this,ill watch 'demolishing devdutt Patnnaik' by rajiv malhotra and then judge this guy.
Yes its absolutely necessary to watch Shri Malhotra ji.
Judgement isn't a Indic consept... You are anti Hindu
I watched Rajiv ji's video on Mr Patnnaik. I seriously can't believe how people believe and follow Mr Patnnaik. This is a joke but not funny
It's worth watching 🤞🏻
Yes, people must watch Malhotra jis episode.
Glad to see how people have started to discredit people like him lately.
They get offended because people are questioning & rejecting their narrative altogether.
These are some serious misrepresentations in his speech.
1) He says monasticism was not there in the Vedas, it came from Buddhism. This is a western notion and this is factually incorrect because in many places in Rigveda you can find the terms, nyaasa, sannyaasi, muni, vati etc. In Rigveda 10.136.1-6 the characteristics of a sannyasi are explained.
2) He says, since Shankara, Ramanuja and Madhva were monasts they have brought Buddhist concepts (desire is the cause of suffering) into Gita! What a leap of accusations based on unfounded notions! Needless to say this is wrong because his presupposition (point 1) itself is wrong.
3) He asks, since all of them (Shankara, Ramanuja and Madhva) were monks, are they revealing the true meaning of Gita? Or is it just their interpretation? This is silly! He proposes to have good relationships and conversations with people who like to see Gita the way he sees. But people who see philosophical material in the Gita conversing and disagreeing with each other, terrifies him! What’s his problem with people knowing Sanskrit and people of philosophy?
4) I was shocked when he said, earlier Gita was usually part of death rituals! He says, the primary tension is between hermit and a householder and Gita is bringing this tension back to life! From where he is getting these ideas? He can speak anything unsubstantiated. But if people interpret Gita based on Sanskrit grammar rules and based on philosophy, he has problem!
5) He trivializes the story of Mahabharata as, it’s about property, it’s about relationships, it’s about hierarchy! I say, it may be. But it is also about philosophy and spirituality. The Mahabharata and the Gita which are hailed as panchama-veda are a fiction of family feud for him! This is serious willful ommision.
6) He says, to let go is moksha. This is again a trivialization. There are other distortions like paramaatma (ultimate indweller) is para-atma (the other soul) for him! Let him have his own concepts, but why distort an established concept? Why play with the words? That too without conforming to the rules of interpretations or to the language grammar rules?
7) Another trivialization is, as he says, you need not know Sanskrit, you need not study bhashyas, but you can know anant-brahmanda! How? You be sensitive to other, do Darshan, offer bhog, do manthan, do samvaad, discover your own Gita and voila, you know anant-brahmaand! My question is, were the previous commentators not aware of these? Didn’t they do any of these? His holier-than-thou attitude is not justified.
Let me summarize what he says.
There is a discipline to know things as they are (ontology), to study nature of knowledge (epistemology). He doesn’t like to study Gita based on these. There are many gurus who disagree with each other. He is terrified of these! There are many philosophers who tell only theirs is the truth. That is the problem! That creates hierarchy! He admits he doesn’t know Sanskrit. And he doesn’t like people knowing Sanskrit telling him what the truth is! So what’s his solution? He interpret his Gita (flouting grammar rules and philosophical interpretations of all the gurus). He wants to see his world-experience in Gita. He wants others to see their world-experience in Gita. What for? Because, ultimately it’s all about relationships! (OMG!). If he and the others like him cannot find truth between themselves, it’s because of people knowing Sanskrit have not let them!
Ignoring dhyaana yoga of Gita is a serious ommision. Trivialization.
I see a clear disdain towards people who know Sanskrit and people who have interpreted Gita earlier, in his words. He is hopelessly clueless and biased.
Superb!
I also noticed nd even his "My Gita" was said to hv misrepresentation by many scholars
Bcause adding *MY* doesn't give u freedom to talk any nonsense
He even said on epic channel mediation came from buddha.
You are doing Darshan...you are lost in you own thoughts
@@rudranshparab2007 any doubt??? Where else it came from????
😂 brahman in distress
I came to know two new Words to enrich my vocabulary - Ontology & epistemology... Kudos ✌️✌️✌️
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First time i got an opportunity to hear him and he is fab... I am wondering despite being so fond reader how could i miss him... While coming to dubai i saw his book pregnant king but was in confusion to by it or not but now i could..
By listening just one speech i have become his huge fan...
ha ha ha
You have invited confusion and fake narrative in your head.
By listening to your lecture I realise that your "My Gita " is basically an instrument to endorse distortion
Now I can understand what even Dyaneshwar had to go through when he first time wrote his version of Geeta. All those hate comments are just the anger that people do not want to grow with knowledge coming from all directions. They only want to state that I am right the other person is wrong and also the commercial success that he has got over the period is definitely more than the people who have posted hate comments here.
Exactly...
Will you allow sych type of things with constitution of india. That every person can interpret it. Second things its not about his version it is about the error and mistranslation he had done. He lacks knowledge saint dyaneshwar had done lots of studies and tapasya. Devdutt didn't plus he is already under the barb of predetermined biased which appeared in his work. The hindu know him and people behind him thats why they are promoting him. Devdutt geeta cannot give the essence of a real geeta.
The idiots spewing venom on him are rigid minded. Not willing to open their minds or be flexible
@@amrishtripathi3831 his My Gita has lots of errors, and he is friends with Wendy doniger.... Add the two.
Dont Ever compare our Saints to this CONMAN devdutt.... he is not even close to the nails of the feet of our saints
For all those saying how can he interpret geeta in his own way Let me clear one thing that geeta at the time it was being said by LORD KRSNA was interpreted in 3 different perspectives, one was what LORD KRSNA meant, one was what Arjuna understood and one was what Dhritarashtra heard, these were the first who directly came in contact with the knowledge of geeta. Now if you had read Devdutt's geeta(which prob most havnt even bothered to take even a look) he has already mentioned this thing and after centuries when geeta was starting to spread to the masses (by whom?) Hermits and saints, they all taught in their own fashion so as to make them understand. Now from whom would you like to hear the geeta from, LORD KRSNA itself or from a human, obviously any sane would chose the lord why because he have highest of wisdom and his knowledge is not bounded by time but we are humans whose knowledge and mind are limited atleast for our time, now if someone from today who has read various versions from various sources(early saints and philosophers etc) and understood the geeta and compiled it together so as to make it easier for the masses to understand, is it a bad thing. From where you have read or heard geeta is also interpreted by someone (it is not directly from the lord no?) it is your stubborn and ignorant mind that does not want to accept new ideas to expand their knowledge on this timeless wisdom. When you first heard or read the geeta why didnt you question the author that if he has interpreted the geeta in his own way or not, you didnt because you were reading it for the first time and made it the original version in your own mind. All im saying is whatever version is there the main conclusion and knowledge is same everywhere. And try to expand you knowledge rather than being ignorant and stubborn like other religions wants you to.
Excellent reply, even the Lord says un IV chapter,opening ,Pura proktha, I taught to this to Ishvaku Dynasty, and ypu know Lord Hanuman who was the flag of Arjuna too listened so also Sanjaya.
Philosophy when learnt,please listen without bias or shun the panchaidriyas.No presumptive feeling,absolute mindfulness expected ,no grazing of the Top Grass.
Then internalize,experience, explore, the curiosity to know, Gijnsau takes you to heights. Vidya dathathi Vinayam
Excellent and appropriate narration by Devdutt. Many concepts and confusion related to the Gita were well explained. I always love to read/listen him on various aspects of Indian mythology 👍
Yes in his speech some terms were misconcepted like guru and paratma..... But it doesn't mean that his explanation is wrong.... I am inspired by him because he protests....... The rejection of real....and I am also a realist and also an optimist and salute his explanation of fundamentalism in the proper Hindu thought.....
So he mistakes the basic conception of Vedanta philosophy i.e the core belief and still you want to follow him?!
Would you see a doctor who doesn't know the basics of anatomy and physiology?
His understanding of sanskrit is sooooooo faulty its actually is funny tht he actually decided to write sumthing based on gita ..... saints study bhagawat gita for decades then wrote their understanding of The bhagawat gita .... this man doesnt have a formal education of sanskrit decides to write about it .... its not only funny its dangerous ....
Pattanaik’s interpretations have been questioned by Rajiv malhotra recently. More importantly, pattanaik’s drishti is too western which he has internalized. Note the strongly Christianic grounding in his interpretation of yagnya. (More precisely, Cartesian interpretation, using a dualistic mind and body). The central argument of Gita though is to realize that manas is an indriya, and the Saha is above the buddhi. Drishti is important not darshan. Devdutt,s darshan is Cartesianism.
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Hinduism is rich with mythology more than any other culture and I am proud to be Hindu. People please realize that Muhammed going to Heaven on a horse is also mythology and Jesus walking on water or healing lepers is also mythology. Every religion has mythology.
I just want to say that I do read Bhagavadgita from cover to cover and know others who do it as well. I like to read a few shlokas every day. I like how Devdutt ji gives us food for thought. We will digest what we need from it.
I was impressed in the beginning but lost it when he called mahabharat a fight for family property. Of course, its obvious that his. interpretation is gas. He has NOT understood dharma yudha. He finally confesses that he doesn’t know what is dharma. Then how can he write on gita?
U explain me what is dharma...as I don't know too..tell ke what is right or wrong?
Kanav Gupta Hundreds of princes were driven our of their kingdoms despite being eligible to the throne. Politics ruled large . Step mother. Uncles, uncles’ wives hand locked off the kingdoms that should have gone to the rightful heir. The pandavas were not just the only family like that. Many before them have been victims of cruel usurpers. Dharma yudha was in support of those kings
@@srividyar87 let me quote my question again...what is dharma....not dharma yudha?
Kanav Gupta Krishna has explained Dharma inGita, Bheeshma has explained it in Mahabaratha at the time of his death. This thread is not enough for me to explain it.
@@srividyar87 Speaking particularly about Mahabharata , it's not called a Dharma Yudha because it was a fight between Dharma and Adharma . It's called Dharma Yudha , because each side fought for what they believed as their Dharma . Anyday , Mahabharata is not in black and white .
To quote what you said , that Krishna has described Dharma and Bhisma has said Dharma . In one sloka of Gita Krishna has said to Arjuna " I have given you knowledge ,the most profound , now you decide what's work for you ."
Dharma is neither absolute nor can be understood in any standardised norms . Forget , Devdutta , he is a half learned and over hyped writer. Even prolific writers and trnaslators like Bibek Devroy has not been able to answer what's actually Dharma .
I don't understand why are so many people judging him rudely. He is speaking his truth, his logic , his understanding and interpretation. We can agree or disagree with him. Whatever you follow or seek will only be your truth which is inevitably a part of the universal truth. Namaskaram 🙏
Watch Demolishing Devdutt Pattnaik by Rajiv Malhotra on UA-cam. He has many factual errors in his book
There is only truth not his or her truth, it will be called interpretation.. His interpretation wrt Gita is very pathetic to the least...
When your going to write on My Jesus, My Allah??
Never because his salary comes from there
If he writes about my Allah will be killed definitely
Someone one day will and you will be the first edition buyer. From muslim and christian whom you learned to be stubborn.
He has been given OPEN CHALLENGE for Discussion on MY GEETA by NITYANAND MISHRA.
But DEVDUTT PATTANAIK is arguing that BRAMHINS are against him?
In another parallel dimension where he didn't exist.
There is a group here that strongly recommends watching Rajiv Malhotra's video on Devdutt Pattnaik. The thing is that majority of these people would not have even read Devdutt's version before coming to conclusion. But this is how our society is. I am not in support of anyone. But we are happy to brand someone without doing our own research. We have to read a lot and on our own. Not because someone on internet said that this is right, we believe he is actually right about everything. And this applies for all.
Bro You din't get it..... Actually the Problem is you have not Read The Actual Geeta. Or if Read , Not Understood...... Devdutt is Funded and Promoted by Evils who want to destroy Hinduism...
You better suggest Devdutt to Write " MyQuran" or " My Bible"
It is due to stinking money,preprocessed food and lack of our ancient wisdom...they are Americanised
I dont think Gita needs to be examined in the Buddhist perspective to make sense of it - as Mr Pattnaik would like us to believe. As per the words of Mr Pattnaik, my Gita will be different from his Gita and hence there is no point buying his book
Well said we all should thrash all non sense and people who donot understand Hinduism and try to pose as authority of the subject I am not surprised to listen" my Hinduism" as a book in the future
Absolutely right brother...he himself contradicts and the errors he made in My Gita it self shows who is behind him.
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@@seekerNLearner where
Listen to him again, slowly
Dev Sir...
I highly appreciate your way of explaining the things in so easy and smooth way...Thank you for your contribution...
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I totally agree with everything that Devduttji says here... and looking at the conversation threads here... it looks like absolutely no one does... but then again.. it's not about judgement and who is right.. its creating manthan in all of us and hence serving its purpose.
Human need is such that we need one superlative... and there has to be one great truth, one great all perfect Shivaji who apparently now has never made a mistake, one great tamil hero in a movie who can travel half the globe by jumping off a tower.... and any interpretation by anyone which says that there is no one perfect and all of us are perfect and imperfect, in varying proportions at different times in our lives, is not an interpretation that will be accepted with ease..
I'm actually surprised that Devduttji has the guts to voice himself so loudly, even if his interpretations are not popular. Had he said the Gita is undoubtedly the greatest philosophical piece ever transcribed, and quoted a few lines amd added a bit of humor,... he would just have a million subscribers in a jiffy and probably a million more in revenue... but he decided to be true to his belief not the popular.... that's appreciable.
Whatever he has said about offering of bhog and receiving of blessings in yajn of celestial beings - is literally stated in certain Shlokas of Bhagavadgita
Just watch Demolishing Devdutt Pattnaik you'll know and then make your own judgement about him
When a person think he is to much intelligent, result is like this 😄 anyhow talk is nice, but I did not get anynew things.
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We need a Sadguru n Devdutt together on Discussion..... both are oceans of knowledge
The truth is which never change and always exist..
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Everyone has right to read and explain Granthas. So why do you say that Mr Devdatt is misinterpreter? Who will decide it? If you have better explanation, why do you not share it with society?
Exactly. I highly appreciate your comment. Half the people who have commented bad about Devdutt ji unko Gita ke bare me ardhya Gyan bhi nahi hai
When a person see cloud it may look like elephant, to other it may like something else. It is purely Interpretation nothing else. Nobody has seen. It is belief. It can be interpreted or imagined according to their experiences, whatever we know is experience.
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Does everyone has right to interpret constitution of india. Law graduates practise it for years the give exam and then practise again after years of experience they are certified.
To you questions who is authority, first he had done grave error in translation which every scholar of sanskrit can work out. Second there are dharma guru and scholar of this field only who had done lots of studies which devdutt doesn't. Already interpretation are there he is trying to distort them and modify them.
There are some books with the bonafide and authoritative interpretation of all vedic scripture. Instead of reading the truth, if you want to be ill-educated and cheated go and study these mis-interpreted books written by rascals and cheaters
What is he trying to tell? His side of fiction that he imagined?
Of course
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Very nice.. Only unprejudiced and impartial beings can understand the mythological ideas.
If you follow the comment sections ,you will know what he is really talking about.
what do you think what he is talking about suraj mere bhai thoda aage bhi to bolo
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Wish you best of luck to get mislead by these sudo scholars like devdutt
No, you will understand by using your own mind and not the understanding of some random commenters. What do you understand?
U explained how u wrote it just by reading few lines . How u can say no one reads cover to cover ?? I do and I did many times
And that's why people like you and me do not need this fake guy
This guy is Nirav modi in the liturature world.Just listen to talk with RM and N mishra.
devdutt patnaik has no idea of dharma.. he gives absurd interpretation of our religious text...
it's my gits, if u know better then explain better ,his idea is awesome
That's why you are the listener, mr arjun 😂
People are having a meltdown. I'm enjoying. Narrow minded people will never find peace.
Another liberandu spotted..
Gyani SE gyani mile kare gyan ki baat , murhk SE murhk mile de ghuma or laat ,
this happens here 😴
His thoughts are really great and inspiring
Beautiful, a simple concept of acceptance and unconditional love explained so meticulously and comprehensively.
thank you
No relation ship between his discussion, His Gita, Guru and all the blah.. A very confused perspective perspective....Mostly picked up from the western scholars...
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He got everything wrong! Thats what he is goiod at it!
Prabupad is equal fraud...real Gita lies with Sankara madhwa ramanuja.. prabupad is too like pope , brainwashing
Half made person is different from a matured person .Incomplete knowledge is dangerous
Was this a session on " India's greatest charlatans? "
That's the only way inviting this Con artist makes sense.
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जो कुछ पुराणों में लिखा गया है वह सत्य हो यह जरूरी नहीं है - कल्कि
Nobody heard the guy say "star wars" instead of star tv?
I did :P
Lavanya D.K he said star world idiot
Good video. He mentions how we can practically apply the good.
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why is he speaking like Karan Johar?
So ? Why are you speaking like a homophobe ? Ah yes, you are one.
fine lecture but very confusing on many places
He himself is a confused guy
I can only saw "Namastey" to Devdutt Pattanaik. After watching this video.
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"Oh please, that template is so 1970s!" Hahaha... epic line Sir! Love your talks and ideas.
sir ur thoughts hv really inspired me personally....specially after reading ur book "My Geeta"....really now I hv started 2 look 2 life through a different perspective...
thanks😊
I even loved ur episode on Geeta on epic channel
unfortunately you have been fed with all wrong information. His approach may be unique, but its misleading.
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Purnima Thapa an
This is what you call twisting a story to feed your philosophy
Bruh... I think Gita gives everyone their own philosophy.
For example there are a sect of people who categorise food as Satvic, Rajasik and Tamasik. But forget that Satvic, Rajasik and Tamasik are just state of mind. Even if one shows passion for milk or milk products then he is in Rajasik state of mind. And that is harmful, however Satvik milk may be.
*to feed his own leftist ideology.
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Listen Rajiv malhotra and Nityanand discussion on blunders of Devdutt pattanaik
It is clear. That, he is feeding dener of yesterday's. calling [TUDAYS VREKFIST]
Here are my thoughts on this lecture.
For what Devdutt is right:
1) Everyone should read Gita and interpret as per their own conscience. The authority to connect to the divine should not be with someone who knows Sanskrit.
2) People should come togather and discuss concepts, verses and knowledge of Gita. This way, a better understanding of the true knowledge will come out.
For what he is wrong:
1) Buddhism is not inspiring Hindu text even if they are written after budhdha gave his knowledge to world. Hindu Vedang knowledge was taught for thousands of years before Budhdha.
2) In last question asked by audience, Devdutt couldn't explain with conviction about Mahabharat is about tug of war. It is not the tug of war. It is about the age old war of Dharma vs Adharma. He fails to understand that Krishna did not ask Arjun to fight just for getting Indraprastha back but also to prevent the unjust rule of Duryodhan upon Bharat. At that time entire Bharatvarsha was divided between Pandav pakhsha and Kaurav Pakhsha.
Dharma vs Adharma is overrated.
one question to him, how do you implement that in daily practice..
Excellent thinking,thinking out of the box
This guy devdut doesn't even understand sanskrit and he wrote my Gita book. He is a fraud just making money. Watch this ua-cam.com/video/vtkMFLuOa3M/v-deo.html
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one of the nicest man ever heard. self belief.
what "i" think he is explaining what our Sikh gurus tried to explain to the world. "vand ke shakna " and " kirat karni ".
lot of times when experienced person and fresher as readings with life
and as reading with jobs , and their book habits
Judgemental society....😇....stop judging guys.... He is just expressing his research.....nd thoughts... If u doesn't agree.... Thn Why are u giving him.... Itti importance.... Sb smjhdaar h..... Just ignore..
It's just amazing to listen to someone who helps in meeting one to one' s ownself😊
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As much as I appreciate Devdutt's efforts and his books, the man seems confused and unable to grapple with the real arguments. Firstly what he calls Indian "mythology", are more fact embellished with fiction. Secondly, there is a "the truth" and some people (Avatars, Gurus, Yogis) have more access to it - albeit inexclusive - than others. Sure there can be subjective interpretations, feelings, emotions and perspectives of the manifested world, but "The Truth" is universal and is exactly what Shri Krisha wants to convey to us. The truth of Karma, of eternal time, or Aatman. Thirdly, he is no historian and yet gives a speculative date to the Gita of 2000 years in a Buddhist context.
What is funny, is he gets very defensive about lack of Sanskrit knowledge. But this is problematic when you write a book called "My Gita" without understanding the language of the original text. Also he shies away from philosophy and his dilution of the depths of the Gita, Shiva, Krishna make a good Ted talk for a foreign audience perhaps, but not a good academic or spiritual work, and certainly not for Indians whose spiritual cravings are much deeper than this.
Aptly put !
1) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita#Date_of_composition
2) He is a mythologist and that is his job.
bas kir he is mythologist.......and without knowing philosophy u r unable to understand mythology.....because mythology in concrete form philosophy to make it understandable to common people.......these people r creating a new word mythologist......philosophy first and in more concrete form it becomes philosophy and again mythology in concrete form becomes ritual so there is interrelation in these three......original knowledge of philosophy can be get through real knowledge of Sanskrit .......
+dilip kumar Philosophy and mythology has no interrelation atleast in Hinduism both are smriti. Why dont you study or take some classes on Hinduism? If you are so confident about your logic then provide evidence and update wikipedia.
bas ab aage baat karani hi bekaar hai jab aaj tak sare academicians philosophers eastern or western ne yahi xampels se bataya hai to fir kya kahana.......waise aapake liye bata dun ki Puranas are full of mythological stories and its purpose is to educate common people with highest philosophy......go and deeply read........its greatest error u r making.....
First of all Geeta is not myth and is the fact actual words spoken by Krishna .He is a person with too many questions in his mind but keep it up .You will find one day the tunnel end light
That is your view. What about those Hindus who believe that Gita is spoken by Arjuna Consciousness? Are they Hindus or not?
He's finding the end of tunnel....
where was excellent mythological product and busters lectures in the past also this man came up mearly because of the social media and just there was a gap, choice of a new perspective granted by time.you just repeating in more attractive language that has already been told by so many
Gita mey Likha h guru ko follow Karne ko.
Gita wants us to liberate, inka explanation bata rha h k grihasth mey bandhey rakhne k liye Gita Likha gaya tha.
What are you saying man?
Bhagwad Geeta is a conversation.
Stop calling Mahabharta and Ramayana Mythology. They are not. Discover some other word.
When he called them Mythology? He called them Ithias so why a new word is required? Please provide evidence then related to Mahabharta and Ramayana? Which version of Mahabharta and Ramayana is real?
@@vinsin328 valmiki ramayan and Ved Vyasa mahabharat
@@digitalmarketingpretoria which version of valmiki ramayan and Ved Vyasa mahabharat is real? You dont believe in satyamev jayate? Why others Ramayana and Mahabharata not real? How did you decide, please provide roadmap that lead you to that conclusion?
These questions you didnt answer :
1) When he called them Mythology?
2) He called them Ithias so why a new word is required?
3) Please provide evidence then related to Mahabharta and Ramayana?
4) Which version of Mahabharta and Ramayana is real? incomplete answer
Only problem he has is , It is not indian Mythology, it is still Indian Theology .
I mean, God Zeus is Greek mythology and Lord Jesus is Greek Theology
but
God Vishnu never became Indian Mythology, it is still worshipped in Indian Theology as Lord Krishna & Lord Ram ,there is still continuity of existence in an newer avatara ,
even after the bloody abrahmization of Medieval India still Indians/Hindus are vaidakas, aryanas, dharmikas
Nityanand Mishra & Rajeev Malhotra exposed him. Do watch the video guys
You exposed yourself. 😂
@@himanshuk6211 I would Definitely call you ignorant if you have not seen the video which I am talking about and directly passing on comments.
If you have seen it and still poking your nose then you are an idiot and it doesn’t make sense to me to argue with an idiot.
Hit like if you also think there is a dangerous guy hidden behind this sweet smile. He's clearly degrading 'Hinduism' and its philosophies wiht his mystical interpretations. HINDUS, Beware !
It was torture to listen to his nonintellectual arguments... He is a confused man.
After listening to your talk one thing is clear. "My truth is NOT different from your truth". Because there is only one truth. We all want to make money. Some fish in the normal water some make the water abnormal and then fish.
Superb Creativity and Analysis
It is appreciable that at least he tried to study something on Gita, but he needs to get the facts right!! Gita was sung nearly 5000 years ago. And after the descendant of Lord Krishna, lord Buddha descended.
Do you have the 5000 yr old Gita?
devadutt is really a dumb check out why ua-cam.com/video/vtkMFLuOa3M/v-deo.html
Dear Sir , As mentioned in Bhagawat Gita Chapter 4 , you need to understand gita from spiritual master . PLease visit ISKCON Temple . Your understanding is wrong .
The book is full of mischievous error to suit his intention and imparts his own
wishful interpretation of Vedanta which says ekam Satya vipraha bahu Vadanti .Doubtful about his sanskrit knowledge ,discard his narrative but read vivekanand
Very nice content, Devdutt Pattanaik able to show real meaning of mythological stories and meaning with very good examples.
Note this is a review of “My Gita” written by Mr. Devadutt Pattanaik.
I came across this book recently as I heard the author in a UA-cam talk. There is another critical look on this book on a UA-cam channel also. Please note - This is an independent review, I do not belong to any vedanta organization in the east or west and I generally follow Advaitha Vedanta that Adi Shankaracharya clarified in his bhasyas. I do follow Sringeri Shankaracharya’s teachings.
To be fair author clarifies that his book (MG- My Gita) is his version written in thematic style. On page 4, there is statement that says Buddhist lore preceded Gita. [that is debatable, and I think this is wrong historical fact he is claiming without any reference or clarification]. He clarifies that Gita is subjective and his Gita is not obsessed with the self. I think this is a fair enough comment. [ my take - BG Bhagavad Gita is subjective is not doubt by Guru is the one who clarifies and gives us guidance. BG is dangerous for the common man to misinterpret and send a false message, hence Puranas are better to lay person]
On page 20, he refers to priests as brahmanas or brahmins which is ok. But the word “Brahman” and “Brahmana” itself is so confusing throughout the book. On page 21 he says, “The narrative by Vyasa were called the Puranas, or chronicles, which included the epics Ramayana and Mahabharata.” This is where I started getting a feeling this book distorts some facts knowingly or unknowingly.
Of course, every high school kid in India knows that Vyasa did not write Ramayana. It is always referred to as Valmiki Ramayana which is much earlier than Sage Vysa’s time (Sage Vysa lived around the time of Sri Krishna’s time period).
I liked chapter 1, he has some interesting and good concepts. Page 42, he calls dehi (immortal resident) and deha (as body). Page 43 has a good summary. He uses this dehi and deha throughout the book.
On page 54, author has a bizarre view of Yudhishtira of Maha Bharata (MB) epic regarding his gambling issue. But Yudhistira is dharma raya (he does not break any kshyatria rules). There are many graphics (2x2, schematics tables) throughout the book without figure numbers or table numbers. Some flows with text correctly and some appear to be inserted without proper reference. This perhaps needs good explanation by author. It appears to me that author is trying to convey something but is not clear from text. This happens often.
Page 56 has swastick image with humans, animals, plants and elements. I am not sure what the message is here. Is the author trying to fit an image with items or is there a legitimate swastika bhasya somewhere for this is not clear. Either way author wants to use lots of graphics and image without proper titles.
Page 63 he says that psychology is considered a pseduo or imperfect science. This is wrong definition of psychology. Page 68 dehi , jiva-tama and param-atama come back.
Chapter 5: You and I have to face consequences. On page 84/85 author links Arjuna’s predicament expressed to Sri Krishna in chapter 1 to that of sloka in chapter 4 slokas 17 to 22. This is a totally weird or tenuous connection. I am totally lost by this connection. [It just does not make sense to connect the two is my take]. On page 86 there is totally weird graphic on karma. I just could not understand what he is trying to convey. There is action and reaction at two ends. There is a box named karma in between with Sex Celibacy Violence and Non-Violence. I have no clue what he referring to. He brings in many stories from Ramayana, MB and Bhagavatha. In this context he brings a story of Karna to explain complexity of karma from MB saying it is a telugu folks tale. Again he is fitting a story from Purana or MB to explain a concept from BG.
Chapter 6: You and I can empathize. Author says that dharma is often confused with righteousness (page 89). On page 92/93 he writes about a story from Sundara Kaanda of Ramayana regarding Hanuman and Surasa when discussing adharma and dharma (food, predators and instinct). This is a totally out of context story that he brings in. [ I lost him here, anyone who knows the inner meaning of Surasa episode from Sundara Kaanda knows what it means symbolically as the name suggests. If you folks have time listen to pravachans by Sri Chaganti Koteshwara Rao, Sri Vaddiparti Padmkar ji or Sri Samavedha Sanmukha Sarma garu in Telugu. There are excellent pravachan masters and experts on Ramayana throughout India and there are good. Listen to it in native language).
It feels like he is desperately trying to bring many concepts from many puranas and itihassa and tie-it to BG slokas. And the structure to do so simply seems to fall apart or at least there is no continuity. After the initial few chapters his thought process and message is all over the map. He is just not able to connect the t dots in a coherent way {and I an MBA and studied 100s of case studies, an Engineer and CFA and have written books}
On page 96, he makes the weirdest statement “In the Mahabharata Duryodhana upholds rules, while Krishna breaks them.” Few lines later he says, Dharma however is upheld only by Ram and Krishna not Ravana and Duryodhana. [ go figure what his message is and of course some of these writers never spell the name Ram as Rama which is another big issue, but not an issue at least in this context]
Later, author says: Dharma thus has nothing to (do is missing) with rules or obligations. On page 97 graphic is utterly confusing. At least he could explain clearly.
[ The most useless information you get in this book. Obligations in each stage of life is so critical and everyone must follow dharma at each stage of life is the central tenet of Hindu philosophy and each purana. Here the author is totally contradicting himself and the message is simply not coherent]
Chapter 11: You and I can include. Another chapter that is so disoriented and disjointed with lots of wrong definitions. On page 147 he says the word brahman has two roots: expansion (brah) and mind (manas). And he uses this definition to refer to famous Gita slokas 4-24 (brahma-arpanam sloka). This is a such a critical sloka for Gita BG readers. Swami Harshananda (Ramakrishna mutt Bangalore) has a 45 minute lecture on this. Here author is keeping it in the food domain which is a narrow focus of the sloka. And he brings back Hanuman from Uttara-ramayana where he says Hanuman is biting into pearls given to him by Sita [ this story is not there in Valmiki Ramayana, it is a figment of some’s imagination that has come into some circles of Hindus. There is no basis for this story]
Then author says referring to Hanuman “He seeks dehi everywhere and thus expands his mind and finds brahmana”
This is where imagination of this author runs wild and it is a work of fiction and a totally value-less book that distorts our Hindu Puranas or Ithihasa. This is where I stopped. This is a book that does not add value to anyone. If anything, this is non-sense, fiction, disoriented ideas stitched together in 18 chapters with many factual errors about history, Indian Puranas and wrong, narrow translations.
Brahamana, brahmin, nirguna brahman -author is all over the map and uses these interchangeably. Then there is chaturmukha Brahma from puranas. Then there is Hermit Shiva instead of Veerabhadra Swamy that Lord Shiva creates to destroy Daksha yagna.
If you are serious about Gita, read a Sanskrit / local Indian language version.
There is not a single Hindi, Sanskrit word in the book. This is potentially written for the lazy Indian who can’t read his/her own native language and is a slave of English translations of Hindu scriptures or a lazy Westerner who can say in a party that they are reading a book on Gita.
I am returning it to Amazon.
A lot of people are saying his facts are wrong. He never claimed to speak of any facts.
The gita was written over 5000years ago..way before Buddhist
Excellent talk. So right. We need to have open mind...
Adishankaracharya was in this country before 2558 yrs back...so far my knowledge..sir
Devdutt speak and feel him self as a great scholar more great thinker than Buddha and adishankara last but not the least mahatma gandhi I suggest let devdutt study what they achieved practically in their lives before he speak some nonsense to the unfortunate great people who listen to him .I suggest the viewers of this devdutt vedio see the vedios of intellectuals like rajeeve Malhotra and others. Like many politicians god has given great oratorical skills to devdutt and like them he is abusing the god given gift I pray God to save people who follow devadutt
Absolutely right sir, he meticulously concludes he is right. "My experience which make sense" is totally wrong, how can we say what make sense to him is the right one and misleading?
Nobody reads Gita cover to cover!? What a nonsense!
How dare you! Do you even keep a record of his qualifications! He is a qualified mythologist from the Mumbai University! How can you publicly insult such a divine personality like Devdutt Pattnaik! He never tells you to follow him! What he speaks about is simply his understanding, and he says that different people may take the Gita in their own way. He never says that his understanding is that ultimate understanding of the Gita and encourages every one to imagine the Gita in their own way.
@@kakolibhattacharjee7263 Don't know how come you people support his ideology
Mr. Devdutt is an amazing person,personality,great teacher for doday's 21'st century cruel world where humanity has crushed badly. 🌻🌼🌼🌻🌻👏👏👏
Mekoli son you are going to lodon organaige your seminar. This lend is bhart this lend language is hindi.
100% practical speech. The very existence of the original bhyasdeva' s manuscript on Mahabharata and geeta in Sanskrit is questionable. Hench oral or rewritten pass down through generations had added thoughts of their existing dimensions to interpretations. In the process it has enriched the literatures, philosophy and our understanding about dharma and spiritual journey life. We should as a common people contextualize it to our life today and pick up spiritual understanding with practical purposes. With our day to day engagement in earthly life it's important that our life should be meaningful. Swaverna culture to day has destroyed the unique cultural practice, spiritualism,practical philosophy called Hinduism. Cast system has destroyed all other worthy narratives in Hinduism. Independent India it was institutionalised by congress Gandhi neheru family for electoral benefits.
43.39...why no one reads BG ?
Repeatable experiments lead to predictable outcone of your actions . Approach it with Gita Mahima or Dhyana sloka. Pray to Gita Matha to allow you,bless you with the Divibe grace to understand it Obce you treat this Holy BG with reverence, nit as a dumb novel or name ka vasthe, she is ready to embrace your desire
During Covid lockdown, I learnt one verse by heart with meaning ,please visit acharya Gen.in of IIT madras ,their contribution is tremendous. Everyone can learn, simple, even people without the knowledge of Sanskrit can be benefitted
Copied from Rajiv Malhotra...... Can't you think anything of your own?
Can someone really think of something of their own. I mean anything you think would be a recycled thought , isn't it?
Please listen swamy sarvapriyanandas explanation based on shanjaracharya. Now many modern writers think they understood and have enough Tapas and starting to write interpretations on Gita
Sir I want know about THE GTREAT KARNA with ur words
ua-cam.com/video/vtkMFLuOa3M/v-deo.html
I did read it cover 2 cover in a few days time.
57 .31...Gita allows you to learn at your pace ,it is dynamic, it enters you and creates a manthan in you . DHARMA cannot be translated in one go A code of conduct . Mama Dharma. Bhoga bhoomi, Karma bhoomi, or Bhakthi Yoga
We hindus are so confused and ignorant that we have forgotten what we are about.
Devdatt Pattnaik is a self-advertised "scholar". Anyone with basic knowledge of Bhagwad Gita and Vedic tradtion can identity how he twists facts to fit his own concocted ideas. His real face is well-revealed in his tweets blaspheming Hindu deities.
Unfortunately replies like these are pushed back by the algorithm.
I guess what I was searching for from people had come to an end, as your vision is the one I can connect with........so true.
i was searching for you. my search is also come to an end
Hehe this guy is joke. Indian scriptures are not myths. He doesn't even understand sanskrit. Watch this ua-cam.com/video/vtkMFLuOa3M/v-deo.html
This man has the great knowledge of snatan Dharma....
And is very honest...have courage to tell the truth....that's why manuvadi are feeling exposed and crying
@YASHBIR SINGH NEGI no dear.....I support the truth and collective wisdom of our country...
Lol
I haven't seen a book this distorted.
By param atma he is not saying that it TRANSLATES to parah atma, he says for me it is parah atma! So what is the problem?
Very poor in content. Almost idiotic. The speaker has no idea what the role of Guru is. The Guru "NEVER" reveals the truth, he only shows a direction, a method. We Indians have always maintained that there is no single way either.
still he is much better then Zakir naic :P
I think you should listen him again
He is a salesman who knows his job well.
Agree with you.
Neil Dash well said
as an archaeology student I can understand
He is over- complicating some very basic ideas. Common sense is the only knowledge we require to live and let live.
But to what extend? Is that limited to human beings or extended to animals and plants?
Perfect Explanation by Dr. Devdutt Pattanaik, somewhere we all need to remind ourselves that the World owes nothing to us and the only thing we can offer to the Universe is "Humanity" which is the essence of all religions....God is in each on of us! Its sad that today we have to preach others, explain, instruct and Justify to all to "Be sensitive to others" (the Biggest Dharma)
I learned about myself thru these series. Dr Devdutt Patnaik makes things so simple yet effective.
Rehana Wajahat
Then who is Kafir?
THEN YOUR MISINFORMED BY A CHARLATAN