*Fun fact:* This story, released to commemorate Batman's 75th anniversary, is dedicated to Bill Finger, the unjustly overshadowed co-author of the caped crusader
I feel like Bruce chose a fate worse than death by becoming Batman. No matter how many times he stops villains from stealing and murdering, no matter how many people he saves, in the end, if he doesn’t deliver the finishing blow, he’ll just suffer until his last days. Gotham needs hope, but that hope needs the rest it doesn’t get.
@@jonathonsirlord8251 I really hope there is a dc story about a highly powerful super corrupted system almost like the illuminati that explains why most dc villians on earth don't get death penalty despite there heinous crimes a explanation like they want super villains alive cuz they help balance things out or to keep the heroes and villains constantly fighting each other to destract them from knowing about there secrete evil plans whatever story it is i just want it to give a reason why these villain's just don't get a DAMN DEATH PENALTY
Little Bruce: "DAD, NO!!!" Thomas Wayne: "You're right, son. It would be very irresponsible of me to take my wife and my little son into a seedy alley where they can attack us. I better call a taxi, we are rich for something" *END*
HOLD UP You’re telling me that Dick Grayson killing the man who killed his parents gets him death row but Joker killing a bunch of babies and eating all of china doesn’t????
they didn't say that he's on death row for the murderer's murder in particular the thing is once you kill someone, you are not going back so maybe he killed more than one person to deserve death row
While I also think this is absurd, I think the reason for this may be that Joker isn't classified as a normal criminal per se. He's classified as an insane Person, and as such the rules dictate that he should go Arkham asylum to get help, whereas Dick Grayson is a regular dude who killed a man, so maybe in that circumstance, he gets to go on death row, whereas the Joker does not because Be needs to go to Arkham asylum.
I'm sure the gang members that are caught are also tried for their many crimes. Didn't the killer of Greyson's parents have a decent influence, too? I imagine begrudged buisiness partners couod have swung some money around to make Dick's sentencing worse. Besides, in examples like Injustice and Batman Forever, gangs pop up influenced by the _death_ of villains like Joker. And _those_ gangs still have a Batman around to keep them reasonable. Imagine a world where Joker or Scarecrow is finally killed, but it just influences an unknown number of weirdoes to form into cults and follow in their footsteps.
@Frengky Giovany yes, but how useful is it in a loud city such as Gotham? Sure, he can focus it, but it takes some time and it is still less reliable than his eyes.
@@danielm.595 Superman heard a device on Earth while he was in a separate solar system. The man literally pulls sounds into his ears. He's hearing everything that he *wants* to hear, far faster than it takes someone to pull a trigger
Reminds me of that JL Unlimited episode where Superman have a dream where he had everything he ever wanted. It was a gut-wrenching scene where he has to wake up from his dream. Clark was in those rare moments that he got very angry and hit Mogul as hard as he can.
And in the same Episode the alien creature attatched itself to Batman once it was off of Clark and showed Thomas beating up Joe Chill, only to lose and die.
There was also the episode in Batman TAS "perchance to dream" Where Bruce Wayne isn't batman but batman stille xists in his universe His parents are alive, he's engaged to Selina Kyle, but he starts to see the seams
In Detective Comics 500, we see another reality in which Thomas and Martha Wayne don't die. However, Bruce still decides to train to become a superhero in order to protect them from other evils, proving that sometimes a hero doesn't need trauma to be who they are. Also, in "For the Man Who Has Everything", he has dream-like hallucination in which his parents were not killed, so Bruce is married to Kathy Kane and has a teenage daughter
@@anthonynieto5307 the one you mentioned is the second batwoman, kate kane, batman’s cousin. The first ever batwoman is kathy kane, who used to have a romantic relationship with batman.
@@Noobie2k7 Let me guess, you think Batman just beats up mentally I’ll people and would do better if he actually helped systemic change, like funding infrastructure?
@@humanperson2480just tim since his parents were still alive and actually very loving towards him Damian would have became a mass murdering genocidal mad man just like his grandfather if it wasn't for Bruce
Reminds of Flash and Thawne conversations. Even if Barry fixed everything and had his normal life, had his mom; everything else is totally fucked. Sometimes accepting the road you’re on and holding your own morality accountable is the best option. Yes, it hurts like a son of a bitch, but it would hurt much more the other way around. Have a good day everyone.
Thomas and Martha Wayne: *Are killed in front of their son* Little Bruce: "Mom...Dad...Please...No..." 😢 Nite Owl: *Enters the Alley* "THIS LOOKS LIKE A JOB FOR NI..." *Realizes he arrived too late* "...Oh...Cr*p...I knew I shouldn't have stopped to set my watch...Wanna an ice cream, kid?"
@@bwackbeedows3629 Well good for Dick I guess, since he successfully killed Joker. (Of course, Batman had to revive him though to keep Richards's hands clean) I also purposefully said Richard because if you substitute it with his nickname, it's a crazy sentence
I don't mind if they revive people once in a while to continue the story. The problem is why if the Joker dies, something very bad will happen. Just end the story once, not by destroying an entire multiverse.
Remember what ? It’s what the writers thought up. They could have easily not made all that happen as well and made another “Batman” appear and save the day. Just don’t. It’s writers plot Ffs
yes remember the writer who claims gotham is worse without batman by ignoring that gotham got as bad as it did due to martha and thomas wayne dying and their humanitarian efforts being put on hold for 20 years and no one to stem the court of owl's influence while bruce was training. and makes entire gangs based around men who were criminals when they became "obsessed with fear" after a vigilante weaponizing it appeared, and another who was driven mad by a chemical bath he received after confronting said vigilante and thus wouldn't have been the way they are without him.
@@AnonKiesura In many adaptations, Batman has some role in Joker falling into the chemical tub and causing dent to become two face . What those writers are trying to portray is Batman trying to save the dying corrupted city of Gotham but turns it into a mad house instead
@@AnonKiesura No, it's true that the city became worse after his parent's death, but the city was still bad regardless. You're just ignoring the crime families that had already been established in the city, long before the Wayne's were murdered. Along with all the corrupted businessmen that have the police in their pockets. And that's not including the super villains that would still be created from their own problems and nothing to do with Batman and the Wayne's death.
Actual moral of the story: fight back. Defend yourself and your loved ones when necessary. Don't be afraid to hit someone in the face when they deserve it.
I love how these stories always forget everyone else like Superman or green arrow wouldn’t keep an eye on the demon head or other lesser known street heroes not taking on Gotham
This reminds me of that Justice League episode where a starfish looking alien gets on Superman and Batman's face and they end up dreaming. Superman dreams he's on Krypton and has a family because his father was wrong about the planet being destroyed and Batman dreams about his father fighting off the mugger. I'm glad to see different versions of what ifs in shows and comics. They make good stories.
Yeah. Joker's whole schtick is that he exists due to Batman and his end goal is to break him. Without Batman he would most likely remain as the Red Hood!
Honestly, it depends. Most of his villains exist outside of him, and even the joker could still exist without him depending on if the acid bath is involved.
Joker and two face would have likely not existed but the likes of scarecrow , Mr freeze , penguin , bane ( although I don’t think he would have came to Gotham ) would have still existed depending on the adaptation and universe
Batman isn't Spiderman, many of his villains are 100% unrelated to him. Only 3 or 4 wouldn't exist as villains if he wasn't there as Batman. Some of the villains he created however, were already dangerous thugs, thieves and murderers before he turned them into super-villains.
Usually there are a lot of characters in comics and movies where they say that the heroes are vigilantes at best or the cause of the problem at worse. Imagine if they had their wish only to see villains control large gangs wreck the city like it's their playground.
Didn’t Batman help create most of the villains he faces ? They were reg hoes then he screws something up creates an accident and pool. Powered up Version lol
Not necessarily. Joker would still exist, just in a different form. He was already some form of petty criminal or disturbed person before he met Batman.
To the Wayne's being murdered and cold blood actually is what started Gothams decline. Furthermore, the only reason super villains exist is because Batman took out the legitimate crime organizations controlling the city
Everytime superhero writers decide to write down a story about a hero don't going through a tragic backstory, it ends up with a messed up reality where he realizes his original reality was better.
the joker created because the Batman joker doesn’t know how he was created the killing joke. Origin story was just something that could’ve happened. Joker also has imagine himself insane when he was born. Meaning of Batman really did possibly was just change his appearance.
Man Bruce and Barry really can’t catch a break I’ve both of there parents lived the entire world goes to shit and Bruce dies in one of those reality’s 💀💔
Superheroes in DC tend to only protect a general local Area. Superman generally only attacks stuff that threaten Louis Lane and Metropolis. So unless the Gotham gangs threaten to destroy Metropolis or the entire world. Superman tends to leave it alone. Crime outside the City Superman tends to leave to other heroes. There is a timeline where Louis lane gets killed by the Joker. Causing superman to be a dictator and police the entire globe. But in that timeline he is a villain.
This is a darker remake of an older story. In that one, Robin goes with them and finds the world they were brought to has no heroes. Even stories like King Arthur and Robin Hood don’t seem to exist and Krypton seems to still be where it was. After Batman saves the Wayne’s, we see time pass in the alternate reality and see that worlds Bruce Wayne being inspired to become Batman by his alternate self saving him and his parents. Implying that world will have at least one hero.
Feels slightly better than another comic that shows what happened if Batman never existed, which is that everyone lives their best lives. Truth be told i'd love a more grounded approach on both of these outcomes, where Batman existing or not existing mattered only to some, but played out the same, yet different.
Batman parents death probably would've meant that Bruce would live a better and normal life. However batman changed the city and helped so many people that it brought hope and made people better and stronger. Even though it's sad he can never see his parents again, it is good to know that him being batman will make it better for everyone
And in another reality Bruce is accidentally shot and killed. This prompts his father to become Batman and his mother to go insane and become the Joker.
I want a story where Thomas and Bruce survive, or Martha and Bruce survive. How would they raise Bruce? Would they still fall apart? Would he become Batman?
A lot of people think what Batman does is not a healthy way to deal with loss and while I don’t necessarily deny that I do acknowledge this seeing this makes me realize just how important Bruce becoming Batman was that was the greatest thing that ever happened to Gotham city all the good he’s done now just for the city but for Dick for Jason for Tim Barbara Cassandra Stephanie even his own son Damien all the people he’s taken under his wing help his friends forming the justice league. Shows you just how much of an impact and his choice to become the dark Knight had on the world
"Does it..Hurt?"
"Sometimes you learn to live with it..."
*-Dialogue between Golden Age's Catwoman and Batman about the caped crusader's wounds*
Do you remember the comic?
Comic?
@@cheseisreal The Brave and the Bold 197
This the one where they fight Scarecrow right?
Ive always said "It never gets easier, however, through time you will learn how to deal with things more effectively"
*Fun fact:* This story, released to commemorate Batman's 75th anniversary, is dedicated to Bill Finger, the unjustly overshadowed co-author of the caped crusader
Why 4 comments
No 4 i ment fucking 5
@@benjaminbonser2505 i mean, if the guy has passion for batman... why not?
Nah 75th that’s crazy
damn you have 4 top comments
I feel like Bruce chose a fate worse than death by becoming Batman. No matter how many times he stops villains from stealing and murdering, no matter how many people he saves, in the end, if he doesn’t deliver the finishing blow, he’ll just suffer until his last days.
Gotham needs hope, but that hope needs the rest it doesn’t get.
That's why he needs to use his one strength. Covid.
Batman dosent ned to deliver the finishing blow the government neds to and to execute them
@@pinkninja1120 dude he let the government try to Deal with joker But the F@## keeps getting away
@@jonathonsirlord8251 I really hope there is a dc story about a highly powerful super corrupted system almost like the illuminati that explains why most dc villians on earth don't get death penalty despite there heinous crimes a explanation like they want super villains alive cuz they help balance things out or to keep the heroes and villains constantly fighting each other to destract them from knowing about there secrete evil plans whatever story it is i just want it to give a reason why these villain's just don't get a DAMN DEATH PENALTY
Batman just needs to killl the jjoker and his friends
Little Bruce: "DAD, NO!!!"
Thomas Wayne: "You're right, son. It would be very irresponsible of me to take my wife and my little son into a seedy alley where they can attack us. I better call a taxi, we are rich for something"
*END*
they saw a movie that night and which made Bruce want to walk back home through the alleys
This seems like a HISHE episode
@@boy-hc7ig and Thomas said no, the entire reality just collapse or something cause the writer can't be creative
@@olivechakraborty8407 they could bring out the “here’s a bright idea…” guy!
@@boy-hc7ig mark of zorrow I think
HOLD UP
You’re telling me that Dick Grayson killing the man who killed his parents gets him death row but Joker killing a bunch of babies and eating all of china doesn’t????
Because he's da jokah baby
they didn't say that he's on death row for the murderer's murder in particular
the thing is once you kill someone, you are not going back
so maybe he killed more than one person to deserve death row
Pretty sure Joker is always marked as simply being insane, so they put him in the asylum for “treatment” rather than actual prison
@@mmmmricher7258 I’ve seen people with mental illnesses kill a fraction of what joker has and still get on death row
While I also think this is absurd, I think the reason for this may be that Joker isn't classified as a normal criminal per se. He's classified as an insane Person, and as such the rules dictate that he should go Arkham asylum to get help, whereas Dick Grayson is a regular dude who killed a man, so maybe in that circumstance, he gets to go on death row, whereas the Joker does not because Be needs to go to Arkham asylum.
Somehow all these villains atrocities are not deserving of a death, but a man going for his father's killer is.
They didn't know he was a killer, the public still see him as a businessman.
I'm sure the gang members that are caught are also tried for their many crimes. Didn't the killer of Greyson's parents have a decent influence, too? I imagine begrudged buisiness partners couod have swung some money around to make Dick's sentencing worse.
Besides, in examples like Injustice and Batman Forever, gangs pop up influenced by the _death_ of villains like Joker. And _those_ gangs still have a Batman around to keep them reasonable. Imagine a world where Joker or Scarecrow is finally killed, but it just influences an unknown number of weirdoes to form into cults and follow in their footsteps.
I assume he turned himself in after while they never managed to get Joker behind bars without Batman's help.
They would just escape death row anyway, especially Joker.
Joe Chill single handedly stopped crime in gotham by sacrificing two rich guys. What a unit
Kinda weird Superman still keeps out of Gotham in that universe 😂
Superman can't mentally handle Gotham. 1 week in Gotham and the injustice storyline would happen.
@@DEVil-po5xz there's also the fact that due to all the lead used to build Gotham, he practically becomes blind when he goes there.
@@danielm.595 I mean he still has super hearing
@Frengky Giovany yes, but how useful is it in a loud city such as Gotham? Sure, he can focus it, but it takes some time and it is still less reliable than his eyes.
@@danielm.595 Superman heard a device on Earth while he was in a separate solar system. The man literally pulls sounds into his ears. He's hearing everything that he *wants* to hear, far faster than it takes someone to pull a trigger
Reminds me of that JL Unlimited episode where Superman have a dream where he had everything he ever wanted. It was a gut-wrenching scene where he has to wake up from his dream. Clark was in those rare moments that he got very angry and hit Mogul as hard as he can.
And in the same Episode the alien creature attatched itself to Batman once it was off of Clark and showed Thomas beating up Joe Chill, only to lose and die.
There was also the episode in Batman TAS "perchance to dream"
Where Bruce Wayne isn't batman but batman stille xists in his universe
His parents are alive, he's engaged to Selina Kyle, but he starts to see the seams
In Detective Comics 500, we see another reality in which Thomas and Martha Wayne don't die. However, Bruce still decides to train to become a superhero in order to protect them from other evils, proving that sometimes a hero doesn't need trauma to be who they are. Also, in "For the Man Who Has Everything", he has dream-like hallucination in which his parents were not killed, so Bruce is married to Kathy Kane and has a teenage daughter
There's also one universe where an alternate Batman showed up kicked Joe Chills a** and inspired Bruce Wayne to become a superhero.
Isnt Kathy his cousin or am I missing something
@@anthonynieto5307 I think Kathy is the adopted sister or the one from the marriage so it’s legal I think
@@anthonynieto5307 the one you mentioned is the second batwoman, kate kane, batman’s cousin. The first ever batwoman is kathy kane, who used to have a romantic relationship with batman.
@@phambach5337 ahhhh thanks for letting me know!
Remember Alfred's famous saying...
Alfred: With great power comes, great responsibility...
Bruce:...That's...not...correct
*uncle Ben in another universe* : Hey that my line...
uncle ben punching air
Nice to see Batman's existence portrayed as an improvement of Gotham city rather than as him creating the problem in the first place
I mean he might not have created the problem but he's far from helping make anything better.
@@Noobie2k7Did you even watch the video
@@Noobie2k7 Let me guess, you think Batman just beats up mentally I’ll people and would do better if he actually helped systemic change, like funding infrastructure?
@@humanperson2480 Is the joke that Bruce Wayne DOES do that?
Batman's parents NOT dying is like Krypton NOT getting destroyed
detective comics #500 says otherwise
He sacrificed his new future for Gotham 😢
The world needs a Batman.
Whether they like it or not
They basically hit him with the "Spider Verse Analogy" for why his parents had to die.
😢 the background music really makes the story hit on a different level
Cringe
@@aztros8128YOU’RE CRINGE!!!
@@aztros8128 how’s it cringe?
*What if Robins never met Batman*
Writers: *Gives them a good life*
Also writers: *Gives them a shitty life*
Well yeah Dick’s whole life was basically an echo of Bruce’s in the sense that they were both going to avenge their parents
I think the only one who might have a good life without him is prolly Tim (and Damian but that depends on the iteration).
@@humanperson2480just tim since his parents were still alive and actually very loving towards him Damian would have became a mass murdering genocidal mad man just like his grandfather if it wasn't for Bruce
So sad that he leaves his wife and child to continue saving the city
Reminds of Flash and Thawne conversations. Even if Barry fixed everything and had his normal life, had his mom; everything else is totally fucked. Sometimes accepting the road you’re on and holding your own morality accountable is the best option. Yes, it hurts like a son of a bitch, but it would hurt much more the other way around. Have a good day everyone.
it’s like “for the man who has everything” but for batman
"time doesn't heal pain its just teaches us to how to live with it"
Bro it’s a canon event…
The death of bruce's parents is a fixed point.
Thomas and Martha Wayne: *Are killed in front of their son*
Little Bruce: "Mom...Dad...Please...No..." 😢
Nite Owl: *Enters the Alley* "THIS LOOKS LIKE A JOB FOR NI..." *Realizes he arrived too late* "...Oh...Cr*p...I knew I shouldn't have stopped to set my watch...Wanna an ice cream, kid?"
Bro
it a canon event that's why their is always a batman if their ain't a batman then the history of batman will rewrite it's self.
Dammit Miguel
the selflessness of this man inspires me
Judge: Dick, we will send you on death row.
Also Judge: Joker is just a mentally ill, let's rehab him.
Crazy
Batman: I can't kill Joker, I think he secretly wants to be my *best friend* 🥺
@@kevalpatel479 Think of it in the broader context, _bro._
@@bwackbeedows3629 Well good for Dick I guess, since he successfully killed Joker. (Of course, Batman had to revive him though to keep Richards's hands clean) I also purposefully said Richard because if you substitute it with his nickname, it's a crazy sentence
@JPMonster13 Dick's hands clean goes kinda hard tho. A chub tbr
I don't mind if they revive people once in a while to continue the story. The problem is why if the Joker dies, something very bad will happen. Just end the story once, not by destroying an entire multiverse.
"All you know... Is alone..."
To those who say Batman makes things worse in Gotham, please remember this.
Remember what ? It’s what the writers thought up. They could have easily not made all that happen as well and made another “Batman” appear and save the day. Just don’t. It’s writers plot Ffs
yes remember the writer who claims gotham is worse without batman by ignoring that gotham got as bad as it did due to martha and thomas wayne dying and their humanitarian efforts being put on hold for 20 years and no one to stem the court of owl's influence while bruce was training. and makes entire gangs based around men who were criminals when they became "obsessed with fear" after a vigilante weaponizing it appeared, and another who was driven mad by a chemical bath he received after confronting said vigilante and thus wouldn't have been the way they are without him.
@@AnonKiesura In many adaptations, Batman has some role in Joker falling into the chemical tub and causing dent to become two face .
What those writers are trying to portray is Batman trying to save the dying corrupted city of Gotham but turns it into a mad house instead
@@AnonKiesura No, it's true that the city became worse after his parent's death, but the city was still bad regardless. You're just ignoring the crime families that had already been established in the city, long before the Wayne's were murdered. Along with all the corrupted businessmen that have the police in their pockets. And that's not including the super villains that would still be created from their own problems and nothing to do with Batman and the Wayne's death.
@@tsnoob4669 witch do you prefer normal gangs or joker,mr.freeze,riddler,and others who came for batman
"For the Man Who had nothing"
Actual moral of the story: fight back. Defend yourself and your loved ones when necessary. Don't be afraid to hit someone in the face when they deserve it.
Batman with his parents alive:
I'm Man.
I love how these stories always forget everyone else like Superman or green arrow wouldn’t keep an eye on the demon head or other lesser known street heroes not taking on Gotham
A tragedy that broke a man
But shaped a city
Solution: The Gotham police stops being more incompetent than Mexico’s police
And that's why Leon Edwards has the best aesthetic known to mankind.
Thomas wayne got that dawggg 💪🏽
What breed?
Well in another world where Thomas and martha live Thomas becomes batman Martha becomes joker and Bruce is the one that dies
Somethings happen for a reason
yeah bro like a cannon event
That's why batman is the goat without him everything falls apart
So basically, Bruce's parents are *ABSOLUTELY DESTINED* for Bruce to be any form of batman
It's a canon event
@@yesineedtheplasticchairitc3065 for once I agree with this meme
True hero for wanting to go back to the painful reality
Proof that Batman was never "creating crime"
This reminds me of that Justice League episode where a starfish looking alien gets on Superman and Batman's face and they end up dreaming. Superman dreams he's on Krypton and has a family because his father was wrong about the planet being destroyed and Batman dreams about his father fighting off the mugger. I'm glad to see different versions of what ifs in shows and comics. They make good stories.
It was the Black Lotus, and it was on their chests. You're mixing it up with Starro, who controls people and attaches to their faces.
"Everything happens for a reason"
it's crazy that no matter what version civilian never fight back
if we have joker right now he would be cheese wheel within a day
I'll point out that many of Batman's villains would never exist if Batman didn't, so maybe things wouldn't actually be that bad!
Yeah. Joker's whole schtick is that he exists due to Batman and his end goal is to break him.
Without Batman he would most likely remain as the Red Hood!
Honestly, it depends. Most of his villains exist outside of him, and even the joker could still exist without him depending on if the acid bath is involved.
Depends on the Batman adaptation, some have Batman directly or indirectly causing the existence of the villains while others don’t
Joker and two face would have likely not existed but the likes of scarecrow , Mr freeze , penguin , bane ( although I don’t think he would have came to Gotham ) would have still existed depending on the adaptation and universe
Batman isn't Spiderman, many of his villains are 100% unrelated to him. Only 3 or 4 wouldn't exist as villains if he wasn't there as Batman. Some of the villains he created however, were already dangerous thugs, thieves and murderers before he turned them into super-villains.
Its shows you that some bad things might happen, but sometimes bad things happen for a greater good.
Bro that was a canon event - SpiderMan 2099
Spidey and Batman, two heroes who will never have a happy ending
Usually there are a lot of characters in comics and movies where they say that the heroes are vigilantes at best or the cause of the problem at worse.
Imagine if they had their wish only to see villains control large gangs wreck the city like it's their playground.
The greatest hero’s are the ones that don’t take the easy way out
So basically Joe saved millions of lives of the price of 2 SEEMS LIKE A GOOD ASS DEAL TO ME
Sometimes what we want most is not what we need most
I always thought batman was what drew in all the costumed villains. Wasnt it mostly corrupt cops and mobsters before batman?
No people like killer croc was before Batman
@@brownell947 But Joker is supposed to come after
Joker doesn’t really know who he is. He said that thousands of times.
Man the past lives in the background of this videos really adds a interest to not scroll the vid
Grayson killed his parent's killer and he's on death. Wtf I think Gotham likes Joker and other criminals.
American court system💀
Another reason why batman and spiderman and Superman are the most selfless superheroes
It's interesting that the Joker still exists in that altered timeline. You'd think without a Batman, the Joker wouldn't exist either.
Didn’t Batman help create most of the villains he faces ? They were reg hoes then he screws something up creates an accident and pool. Powered up
Version lol
Not necessarily. Joker would still exist, just in a different form. He was already some form of petty criminal or disturbed person before he met Batman.
@@justanotherrandomdude8472 No...Joker, maybe, but most of his villains have origins completely separate from him.
He's created 1 Joker. If the 3 Jokers are canon, the first one came about on his own.
To the Wayne's being murdered and cold blood actually is what started Gothams decline. Furthermore, the only reason super villains exist is because Batman took out the legitimate crime organizations controlling the city
Grayson kills ONE person and gets death row?
😂 so stupid
This story is the literal way to say " we make sacrifices for the greater good '
So this implies that the death sentence does exist in Gotham, right?
Everytime superhero writers decide to write down a story about a hero don't going through a tragic backstory, it ends up with a messed up reality where he realizes his original reality was better.
Getting death row for killing your parent’s killer is like getting expelled from school for beating up your bully
They didn't know that the killer is a criminal, they still know him as a businessman.
Which has happened to people. Sometimes standing up to those who have wronged you gets you in even more trouble.
That's crazy dude. 1 man stopped all of this with a couple of assists
it was a canon event
Yea cause no other superhero in D.C. Comic could exist without batman
the joker created because the Batman joker doesn’t know how he was created the killing joke. Origin story was just something that could’ve happened. Joker also has imagine himself insane when he was born. Meaning of Batman really did possibly was just change his appearance.
Had a stroke reading this
Yeah I was lazy. I’m just doing this by the voice I’m not typing any of this hence why
The fantom strainger : " bro chill it was a cannon event "
"Because the World Needs a Batman"
Man Bruce and Barry really can’t catch a break I’ve both of there parents lived the entire world goes to shit and Bruce dies in one of those reality’s 💀💔
Lmao wtf is that what about the other super heros do they not exist superman could easily clean that issue
Superheroes in DC tend to only protect a general local Area.
Superman generally only attacks stuff that threaten Louis Lane and Metropolis. So unless the Gotham gangs threaten to destroy Metropolis or the entire world. Superman tends to leave it alone.
Crime outside the City Superman tends to leave to other heroes.
There is a timeline where Louis lane gets killed by the Joker. Causing superman to be a dictator and police the entire globe. But in that timeline he is a villain.
@@Jose.AFT.Saddul so you are telling none of the other members of the JL did anything about Gotham in 40 years
So crazy that no one else ever decided to put on a costume to beat people up if Batman didn't do it first.
Dick grayson getting death row makes no fuckin sense, I swear theres an IQ cap to be a DC writer
They have death rows in Gotham....?
Just out of curiosity, why don't you think it makes sense?
Spiderman-2099 in the corner: Bro its a cannon event
I love how you throw in a third of Europe being taken over by immortal ninjas at the end of that list 😂
This reminds me so much of flashpoint this is why the world needs Batman.
This horrible timeline seems much more justified than the flashpoint because they're all directly related to the change that happens
This is a good example of how some traumas end up being for the better because they simply shape a better/stronger person
"I didn't realize... Sometimes a sacrifice IS necessary. Let's go stranger, before I can't."
Nice line :3
“It’s canon event bro YOU’RE GONNA FCK IT UP”
This is a darker remake of an older story. In that one, Robin goes with them and finds the world they were brought to has no heroes. Even stories like King Arthur and Robin Hood don’t seem to exist and Krypton seems to still be where it was. After Batman saves the Wayne’s, we see time pass in the alternate reality and see that worlds Bruce Wayne being inspired to become Batman by his alternate self saving him and his parents. Implying that world will have at least one hero.
The joker and scarecrow gang would never exist, that man is fucking trolling Batman
one rule you shouldn't change fate
fate is the best possible thing for you
no matter what happens dont hate your fate its what is best for you
Feels slightly better than another comic that shows what happened if Batman never existed, which is that everyone lives their best lives.
Truth be told i'd love a more grounded approach on both of these outcomes, where Batman existing or not existing mattered only to some, but played out the same, yet different.
Its crazy how just one man can change so much
Basically Bruce needs to be depressed for Gotham to be happy
happy is a strong word. It would be more accurate to say NOT DEAD
Batman parents death probably would've meant that Bruce would live a better and normal life. However batman changed the city and helped so many people that it brought hope and made people better and stronger. Even though it's sad he can never see his parents again, it is good to know that him being batman will make it better for everyone
And in another reality Bruce is accidentally shot and killed. This prompts his father to become Batman and his mother to go insane and become the Joker.
He implication that all these wacky villains would still exist without Batman is interesting to me.
I want a story where Thomas and Bruce survive, or Martha and Bruce survive. How would they raise Bruce? Would they still fall apart? Would he become Batman?
I feel like if Batman wasn’t around then someone would still be protecting the streets of Gotham even if they weren’t as good as batman
Batman was born as soon as Thomas Wayne and Martha Wayne died.
If the city got that bad it doesn’t make sense how the President didn’t get involved with Gotham to send in troops and calm the situation
A lot of people think what Batman does is not a healthy way to deal with loss and while I don’t necessarily deny that I do acknowledge this seeing this makes me realize just how important Bruce becoming Batman was that was the greatest thing that ever happened to Gotham city all the good he’s done now just for the city but for Dick for Jason for Tim Barbara Cassandra Stephanie even his own son Damien all the people he’s taken under his wing help his friends forming the justice league. Shows you just how much of an impact and his choice to become the dark Knight had on the world
Sometimes our greatest wishes can be our greatest regrets
Batman gets a happy ending in everyone else suffers because of it …… yeah that sounds like a fair trade he says sarcastically
Batman’s Flashpoint
“These scars we have make us who we are. We’re not meant to go back and fix them” - Batfleck