The Confederacy was Bad
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2023
- I know I missed the 4th of july when this would have been fitting. But mocking confederates is a patriotic all year-'round!
also to anyone saying "The union was bad too". true, but they weren't the ones keeping slavery going lol.
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Confederate constitution (article IV, section 2 (1)): avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_cent...
great video series about debunking Confederate myths entitled "Checkmate Lincolnites!: • Confederate DESTROYS Y...
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The wait between Pikmin 3 and Pikmin 4 was more than twice as long as the Confederacy's lifespan.
10 years is a long time to be fair.
The average development time of a decent to good quality AAA game is longer than the lifespan of the confederacy.
The wait between the avatar films took longer lol
@@V1ncenz010 the long wait between Top Gun and Top Gun Maverick was longer.
The wait for metroid prime 4 from its announcement has been longer than the life span of the confederacy.
According to Steam, the longest playtime for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is 83,671 hours. That's over 9.5 years. People have played Skyrim longer than the Confederacy lasted. You have a better chance of making the Stormcloaks your heritage than you do the Confederacy.
Holy shit you mfs literally have one joke lol
@@sekaiyoru01 and you guys support a "country" that was made just so they could fucking own people, what's your point?
@@sekaiyoru01and y’all don’t have a joke that sticks to begin with
@@Insert_Name_Here908neither do you
Benito Mussolini outlived your pathetic Lincoln
"You're ignoring our other concerns-"
"Yeah, but among the concerns was slavery, so I don't care."
FINALLY SOMEONE HAS THE WORDS.
BOTH sides, UNION and Confederacy HELD SLAVES DURING THE WAR, at the end of the war ONLY NORTHERN STATES HELD SLAVES, the south did not, and troops had to be dispatched to kentucky ( a union state throughout the war) to enforce the 13th. amendment in 1865 onwards.
the war wasn't over slavery at all, your average confederate soldier barely owned underwear let alone a slave, whilst both grant and sherman had been slaveholders. lincoln's letter to horace greeley (easily found on the internet) the editor of the new york tribune in august of 1862 (17 months on from sumter) has lincoln stating the war is over UNION, he has NO INTEREST in slavery. and as the war draws to a close he is looking at DEPORTING them all into the caribbean.
the union couldn't have raised a division in 61 to fight and free slaves, let alone an army, the war was over imprisoning the wealthy south within the union so lincoln could fund northern industrial expansion, NOTHING ELSE, the south fought to repel the invader, as the ukraine does today, in BOTH wars the republicans failed freedom.
@@davec8730 I hear what you're saying. Now hear what I'm saying.
I'm not talking about the war. People on both sides of the war were in the wrong, and different people had different reasons to fight.
I'm talking specifically about the Confederacy as a government and pseudo-nation, which was built on, around, and for the continuation of slavery.
To give an example, the United States is well-known internationally for chasing after oil, but I've never owned more oil than is in my vehicles. I've never even seen any that isn't in a bottle ready for me to use in said vehicles.
Just because individual Confederates didn't own slaves does NOT mean that's not what the Confederacy stood for.
And, as the video points out, it is true that there were other reasons for the Confederacy. But, as I said, one of those reasons was slavery, so while some of those reasons may actually have been good reasons, the absolute EVIL of having slavery as a pillar of a nation makes me not care about what those reasons may have been, because either way I'm not going to side with them.
@@allofus1002 a very FEW WEALTHY men presently hold the reins of power in the USA (other countries are likely the same). the confederacy and UNION of that time were no different.
a few extremists in the south had a very vested interest in slavery (my guess is few of them took up arms), 99% of confederate soldiers had no slaves, but fought to repel the invader from their homelands.
99% of union soldiers didn't give a hoot over slavery, but fought to retain the UNION as instructed by lincoln and his government.
the war wasn't over slavery, how do i know this? because lincoln in his letter to greeley of 1862 tells me so, and me having to decide between the utter tripe you were taught in school that had been engineered from that time to cover the union tracks, and passed down generation after generation since, I'm believing the man who sent the invaders south in the first place (lincoln), i'll go with why he chose war, not your 'hopeful' explanation.
the emancipation order was released at a time the south was winning the war, and it was done as a wartime measure to impede the south from defending itself successfully
hope this helps.
@@davec8730 I hope I'm not misunderstanding, but from what you just said, it seems like you said very few people owned slaves, and then said that the emancipation proclamation freed so many slaves that it held the South back from winning.
@@allofus1002 YES! very few in the confederate army held slaves (why did you think they were ALL wealthy?) the emancipation was enacted to weaken the south's ability to defend itself (you can even find admissions from union commanders and northern politicians to this FACT) however as even the basics seem to have escaped you, you maybe better studying something easier to understand, like basketball, or cheerleading in college.
Things that states were forbidden to do according to the Confederate constitution:
1. States within the Confederacy were not allowed to pass laws outlawing slavery.
2. Confederate states were not allowed to secede from the Confederacy.
Really doing a great job with that whole “State’s rights” and “not based on slavery” thing, guys.
Were these seriously the only changes? Bruh
@@noahpokeemon6503 no, not the only changes; just a couple of very notable ones.
@@NickReilly-iv6jg When the Confederates' only billing points are "It wasn't about slavery" and "States' Rights", and the examples completely countering their statements are laws stating "It is about slavery actually" and "We're taking away your rights of secession", it's less "ignoring everything else" and more "urging you fuckers to use a new goddamn billing point", which them fuckers have HAPPILY not done and instead tripled down that it "isn't about slavery" and "is about states' rights".
@@NickReilly-iv6jg Nice troll, except it's just not funny
"You can only secede once! States rights!"
Man, you'd almost think Goobus was pro-confederate with all the people he's ownin'
😂 I am absolutely stealing this! Genius!
@@cajunguy6502 thanks
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"the annoying orange outlived you" is probably the greatest insult ever created
This has NO argument whatsoever and no it's not the greatest insult ever
@@Religous152a 2 year old nord cuck channel doesn't get to have an opinion.
@@Religous152dude if a cartoon orange lasted longer than a nation that nation is probably pretty weak
@@Religous152 My man a kids channel outlived a racist wannabe slave state. Thats a pretty good insult for them.
@@fivepainbbles the annoying orange lasted longer than North Vietnam and they absolutely bulldozered the United States in the Vietnam War
I've often heard Confederacy stans be like "Lee was a gentleman and Grant was a drunk"
So you're telling me the Confederacy was so bad... That they lost to a drunk and a few others.
Reminds me of a line from family guy. “ I’m saying that drunken idiot kicked your sorry asses south of the Donna Dixon line.”
Lee WAS a gentleman. When the confeds lost he said 'pack it in kids it's fucking over, we lost, time to let the name Confederate States of Murica be lost to the annals of time and be forgotten'. sounds like a pretty graceful loser to me
'course, everything's relative.
Grant carried the whole war while being in a drunken stupor and still kicked the confederacy's ass. What a legend!
@@ZetaNiGHTYes, a total gentleman who fought to keep people as property. The very definition of a gentleman. 🙄
@@CanItAlready Affable evil!
He sent in Frederick Douglas instead of John Brown? Doobus is a merciful man
Also a good thing he didn’t send in Clay
@@Shaun_Jones
You mean Cassius I presume. Henry would work on a compromise.
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Sending in Douglass instead of Sherman, Doobus isn’t just merciful, he’s a bona fide saint
@@Rundstedt1 "Your honor, this is standard behavior for a Kentuckian." -Henry Clay, circa 1847
@@noinfo1018 He didn't send in Grant either
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic lasted 9 years. _Bronies_ have a stronger heritage than lost causers.
And less racism.
@@Sobercapybaradebatable but yea
@@Sobercapybaraehhhhhhh really now
@@lucassevey5989well they did discuss racism in their own way in the show
Yes we have lasted longer. And the furries have lasted longer than us.
This should not be considered a “controversial take” but Twitter made it clear that apparently saying “supporting slavery bad” is controversial.
Elon Musk really managed the impossible - he made Twitter an even more disgusting hellhole.
Exactly one of the reasons why I deleted my Twitter account. It’s all about Threads now!
@@nerdgeekman right because threads isn't just the same kind of shithole but even more corporate lmao
@@nerdgeekman Nah, I'd rather not give Zuckerberg any more power over social media. He's already partially responsible for at least one genocide, among other things.
Twitter being stupid as usual
A dude once said to me “ it was actually all about trade and taxes “ I said “ ok , but what we’re they trading and taxing ? “ and bro didn’t have an answer . Anytime confederates bring up a point it’s unfinished like “ states rights” or “ The north restricted trade “ like ok on what tho
Tarriffs are paid at ports of entry. The vast majority of tariffs were paid by NYC and Boston.
The south will rise again
Oh yeah the north paid more in taxes than the south
a tradition that continues to this day.
(The next bit is probably why the person said that; however, it was definitely because of slavery and not states’ rights over trading and taxes that the Confederacy was created.)
Back then, there was a new bill (the Morrill tariff bill) that made tariffs (a tax put on imported good/things from other countries) way higher, and since the south focused more on agriculture than manufacturing, they imported a lot of goods (and probably slaves).
There was a whole thing with South Carolina saying that states should decide the tariffs in the state because most people in the south weren’t that rich and couldn’t buy some of the things that they were able to buy before the bill, and when SC seceded, they said the “true reason” they seceded was because of not being able to control tariffs.
That’s bullshit though because, since Abraham Lincoln was the one to sign the Morrill tariff bill into law, they thought he was going to make slavery illegal too. And so they wanted to blame them seceding on the higher tariffs ‘cause it would make them look bad and make people not side with them if they said it was because of slavery.
State's right to own guns, smoke pot and pay prostitutes for you know what. We can't do any of that right now. Abortions went back to state's rights as it should be.
Onlyfans has been around longer than the confederacy
Pfffffft Hahahhhahahha!
And I’d say it’s done way more good for America than the confederacy ever did
@@bleepblock2177it ain't even american either lol
(i checked, onlyfans is a british company)
Damn dude, that's the argument we should use.
It'd be WAY more debilitating.
@@infinityblayde1973
Its the instant KO that all twitter arguments have been looking for. ✌️😂
The fact that you can say "The Annoying Orange outlived you" as a legitimate insult *and it is still outliving things* is hilarious and I am using that.
Same!
The annoying orange outlived the Wii U
I guess idk
It doesn’t matter, it’s still their heritage
@@RedWarrior42 why?
@@Saber23 what do you mean by that
The only gray area about the confederacy was the uniforms
best comment; you win everything
I’m stealing this
Honestly, union blue uniforms were so much better looking in my very biased opinion. (Blue is my favourite color)
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Oh, they became red very fast
Doobus’ channel was made in 2016, about 8 years ago, making this channel last 2 times longer than the confederacy.
Yet, in a hundred years nobody will talking about him, but people will still be arguing over the confederacy 😂
@@rodionraskolnikov3853 I mean, people still talk about artists from hundreds of years ago, and THOSE conversations aren't stewed by sealions and trolls.
@@rodionraskolnikov3853 Who are you?
@@ChaseVaccaro-ge3gk that’s because art isn’t a controversial topic
@@rodionraskolnikov3853 Lol what? Art can and has been controversial
Sent this to my dad. He had a giant confederate tattoo before turning it into a american flag tattoo
I sent it to both of my parents because I wanted to entertain them, they thought it was a funny "Take that!" to CSA sympathizers.
Character progression
That "you fucking traitor" felt personal and im here for it.
The usa betrayed france by not paying them back when the french helped against the br*tish
Fun fact the entire state's rights movement didn't really exist before the civil war.. The movement started and was created specifically because they didn't want the federal government to abolish slavery..
Anytime you hear somebody talking about states rights it has its roots purely in the fact that they want slavery
And following from that the entire anti-federal government movement where they hate the federal government but not really the state governments That entire anti-government movement didn't exist either before the civil war.. The entire movement that hates the federal government is purely the offspring of people who never forgave the federal government for abolishing slavery. That's the reason they originally hated the federal government and all of their arguments about it all come down to that same thing. It's literally just an offshoot of the people who never forgave the government for banning slavery
And that includes all of the adjacent ideologies. Far right anti-government conservatism. Libertarianism. Anarchism.. It all came from the hatred of the federal government because they didn't forgive them for banning slavery
"You fucking traitor" is a very appropriate description of Trump supporters
@@mikekasich836 a parallel that I can draw is the libertarian conservative movement before ww2.
Crazy how after a crackdown on people who wanted to subjugate other people by using the state in a right wing way suddenly gained a problem with the state.
“States rights to do what” mirroring “business’s rights to do what”.
And to connect this further, that’s why you saw in the latest Republican debate, a focus on dismantling the department of education, in order to privatize education. Theocrats seem to have gelled well with the liber-con movement in promoting privatization (a term made to describe nazi policy).
On one hand, I see your point. But on the other hand, if we don't let people support the Confederacy we'll lose one of our easiest checks for identifying stupid people.
so true mr florida
Fun fact: Confederacy supporters _can't_ figure out what the peanut butter jar filling machine is doing in that one scene.
these people have a lot to learn about turning things outside in
That’s some 4 dimensional thinking 😂
I mean, I wouldn't say so. These days they just wear a red cap, which makes 'em pretty easy to point out.
It's nice to hear someone correctly use the word "traitors" to define the slaving south
What, the two hundred thousand African Americans and the majority of all native American tribes are traitors? So much straw-manning when literally every confederacy honoring group is about honoring individuals instead of slavery.
I'd like to honestly hear you refer to native Americans as traitors because a majority of the native Americans stood with the Confederacy.
Glorious traitors.
@@Tokanovayea, so glorious that my cat lived longer then the Confederacy existed
@@Tokanova The only things glorious about those scumbags are the songs we made to mock em.
Speaking of...
Away down South in the land of traitors
Rattlesnakes and alligators
Right away (right away)
Come away (come away)
Right away (right away)
Come away (come away)
Where cotton's king and men are chattels
Union boys will win the battles
Right away (right away)
Come away (come away)
Right away (right away)
Come away (come away)
We'll all go down to Dixie, away, away
Each Dixie boy must understand that he must mind his Uncle Sam
Away (away)
Away (away)
We'll all go down to Dixie
Away (away)
Away (away)
We'll all go down to Dixie
I wish I was in Baltimore
I'd make secession traitors roar
Right away (right away)
Come away (come away)
Right away (right away)
Come away (come away)
We'll put the traitors all to route
I'll bet my boots we'll whip 'em out
Right away (right away)
Come away (come away)
Right away (right away)
Come away (come away)
We'll all go down to Dixie, away, away
Each Dixie boy must understand that he must mind his Uncle Sam
Away (away)
Away (away)
We'll all go down to Dixie!
Away (away)
Away (away)
We'll all go down to Dixie
Oh, may our Stars and Stripes still wave
Forever o'er the fee and brave
Right away (right away)
Come away (come away)
Right away (right away)
Come away (come away)
And let our motto ever be
Forever Union and for liberty
Right away (right away)
Come away (come away)
Ride away (ride away)
Come away (come away)
We'll all go down to Dixie, away, away
Each Dixie boy must understand that he must mind his Uncle Sam
Away (away)
Away (away)
We'll all go down to Dixie
Away (away)
Away (away)
We'll all go down to Dixie
@@Confederate_Rebel
Another Neo confederate comes along to lie about history. What you're purposely so vaguely trying to reference is the Corwin Amendment which Lincoln had nothing to do with but was part of the "Committee of 33" and the failed Crittenden compromise, all of which only concerned themselves with issues surrounding slavery. So conversely to your question, why would they only address slavery as the compromises if that was not the issue?
And anyway, Corwin really did nothing. It was a non-issue for Lincoln as it only restated the existing law and rejected by the South because it didn't really protect slavery from Republican plans. Slavery was already only a purview of the states, and Congress and the President already had no power to end it in the states where it existed short of an amendment. And there was little possibility of that because, for it to pass, a good number of slave states would have to vote for it. So as far as Lincoln was concerned the Corwin amendment only restated what was already the case, and it didn't stop the states from ending slavery themselves as all the Northern states had, or the Republicans from banning slavery in the territories. And when coming into office, that was Lincoln's plan. Ban slavery in the territories stopping its expansion so slavery would start the whither, remove federal patronage of it, appoint free labor officials, and maybe end the censorship of abolitionist materials in the mail by Southern states, and there would eventually be gradual compensated emancipation with the consent of the states starting where slavery was weakest, in the border states. And Corwin didn't change that, Lincoln could still carry out his plans to halt slavery and start it on retreat. And the South knew that the election of Lincoln would put their peculiar institution on the road to "ultimate extinction" and they said so over and over again.
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_”If Mr. Lincoln places among us his Judges, District Attorneys, Marshals, Post Masters, Custom House officers, etc., etc., by the end of his adminstration, with the control of these men, and the distribution of public patronage, he will have succeeded in dividing us to an extent that will destroy all our moral powers, and prepare us to tolerate the running of a Republican ticket, in most of the States of the South, in 1864. If this ticket only secured five or ten thousand votes in each of the Southern States, it would be as large as the abolition party was in the North a few years since. It would hold a ballance [*sic*] of power between any two political parties into which the people of the South may hereafter be divided. This would soon give it the control of our elections. We would then be powerless, and the abolitionists would press forward, with a steady step, to the accomplishment of their object. They would refuse to admit any other slave States to the Union. They would abolish slavery in the District of Columbia, and at the Forts, Arsenals and Dock Yards, within the Southern States, which belong to the United States. They would then abolish the internal slave trade between the States, and prohibit a slave owner in Georgia from carrying his slaves into Alabama or South Carolina, and there selling them. These steps would be taken one at a time, cautiously, and our people would submit. Finally, when we were sufficiently humiliated, and sufficiently in their power, they would abolish slavery in the States. It will not be many years before enough of free States may be formed out of the present territories of the United States, and admitted into the Union, to give them sufficient strength to change the Constitution, and remove all Constitutional barriers which now deny to Congress this power. I do not doubt, therefore, that submission to the administration of Mr. Lincoln will result in the final abolition of slavery. If we fail to resist now, we will never again have the strength to resist.”_ Open letter of Gov. Joseph E. Brown to the Georgia legislature. Dec. 7, 1860
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"The confederacy didn't want to be oppressed by the north."
I can't believe people can say that without any self awareness.
that is, factually, what they wanted. States rights, freedom. For the sυperiors only, which is the best way to manage a government.
@@Skismaticbut if they wanted to ensure state's rights, why did they bar confederate states from outlawing slavery by their own accords?
@@Skismatic The Superiors?
Superior what exactly?
@@Skismatic Why was secession outlawed by the Confederacy?
@@Skismatic states rights to do what
The fact that there are actual slavery defenders bullying Doobus on Twitter is simultaneously funny and really sad.
ALREADY???
@@thenotsoamazinggracetnsag3463more like they inspired this video to be made
the fact that you can't understand basic shit is even sadder
@@MrMultiPlatform States rights to do what?
@@MrMultiPlatform Slavery was a horrible institution, do you deny it?
I’ll never forget the words my AP US History teacher taught me:
“In elementary school, you learn that the Civil War was about slavery. In middle school, you learn that the Civil War was about State’s Rights. In this class, you’ll learn that the Civil War was always about slavery.”
Well, I have a feeling that teacher would need a raise. That summs up the education system's relation to the civil war.
School is nothing but a government indoctrination institution that twists the facts and change history and culture
But it was about states rights from the beginning! Specifically the right to have slaves, but semantics!
It’s basically who was being told what. The war was the United States against the rich elite in the south who controlled everything because everyone else down there was poor and uneducated…
….poor bastards didn’t know any better and were basically led at the nose by the elite to go fight their battles for them with promises of no taxes, of demands of loyalty to your own (your state and no one else), and sticken it to them damn yanks…
…which was a sentiment shared by the north who hated those “uncultured, illiterate, and all around mentally deficient slave loving rebels”…. Which is still a sentiment felt today on both sides.
It’s been that way for a VERY long time and seems to flair up every once in a while…. Like ever since 2016 and the unholy mud slinging from both sides that has continued to this day.
I mean, there were entire towns in the south that defected from the confederacy and fought gorilla warfare against the confederacy!
That’s why it’s not black and white, lumping everyone into that blanket statement is silly, but it was the reason war FOR the rich and wealthy slave owners… just not the reasons for those who ACTUALLY fought the war.
@@MegaHero709 all teachers deserve raises. Ecept the ones that don't even try.
I find the "Right to What?" and/or the "What were you doing with your rights when you got oppressed?" tend to be real buzz killers for the conservatives and right wingers because the vast majority of the time nowadays the response boils down to "I want to be an asshole without consequences" or "I was being an asshole and caught consequences".
Wait, wasn't the GOP created to abolish slavery? The Democratic Party viciously fought to preserve slavery (and made a hearty but futile attempt to stop the 1960s Civil Rights Act). The Klan was made to keep GOP and African American voters from the polls, among attacking, robbing, and k*lling them. Your attempts to gaslight strangers on the internet were lazy, to say the least.
@@sledgehammersunited401 Party switch dum dum
@@NickReilly-iv6jg That's why republicans fly confederate flags "honoring their heritage" right?
When people lose, and then feel oppressed they will try to undermine the bad things that they did, it always happens. Like I can understand why the dixie's feel that the confederacy was the best thing ever. Is them larping about the loss that they undertook to make them seem like the victims and the reasonable people after they were humilliated because of something they did very wrong. It is not the first time in history that it happened. I call it a "loser mentality".
You realize the entire dispute started over the North trying to reap the benefits of slave taxes right.
You realize they were not only active participants in the slave trade but actively combated the Underground Railroad, kidnapped and sold free black men to the South, and that the prospect of freeing the slaves was an afterthought that didn't become relevant until halfway through the war, right.
What is it with you people boiling this down to "conservative" this, "republican" that? The only thing Democrats have done regarding race is made the entire country pay infinitely more attention to people's skin color rather than less. God, you are dense. Always easier when you put up strawmen and attack the easy arguments though, right?
I looked it up, and during the end of the war, they refused to conscript African slaves because they knew that if they became soldiers, the end of slavery in the south was inevitable,
They chose losing the war over freeing the slaves.
If black people made effective soldiers it would undermine the very core of southern culture
@@YOSSARIAN313 Ok and? Their culture was awful anyways.
Of course they did it's what the war was about. They were also probably concerned that the second they got guns they would turn on them. It makes sense:
Slave Owner: "Hey here's a gun fight for our nation and the right for us to own you."
Slave with gun: "..." *shoots him*
"If you read about the Civil War, you'll learn that it was about slavery.
If you read further about the Civil War, you'll learn that it was about a myriad of other nuanced issues in addition to slavery.
And if you read even further about the Civil War, you'll learn that it was about slavery."
I think this is the best explanation for the civil war
So explain the corwin amendment and the south offering to end slavery over recognition and ending of the blockade.
A surface level reading says it’s slavery.
A mild reading says that slavery was only one of the many causes
A full deep dive says that like 90+% of the reasons directly related back to slavery and the rest were close enough to slavery that the difference was academic
And if you read *even* *further*, you learn that the civil war didn't stop slavery. The thirteenth amendment didn't actually make it a crime. The South just fuckin *did* *slavery* *regardless*, they just *didn't* *call* *it* *slavery* until it was convenient for them to do so.
"It's not debt peonage, it was slavery, and slavery isn't illegal" was a *defense people used in court in the fucking 1920s* that *worked* because it was *true* and I hate that.
The confederacy was a *stain* on the history of the US, and the people who *celebrate* that are vile.
Just because you can arbitrarily connect it to slavery doesn't mean it was about slavery, though. That just means you're a propagandist.
it wasn't even because the US elected a guy who *would* abolish slavery, but because they elected a guy who *maybe* would reduce slavery.
What's funnier is that Lincoln specifically didn't want to aolbolish slavery because he knew how much southern society relied on them,
But him being elected set them off badly enough to break away, and while they were throwing a tantrum in the fields, He abolished the systems of slavery. Their violent reaction to the situation convinced him that slavery was a problem that needed to be addressed and dealt with right now or else, it would cause worse problems in the future .
They basically complained about Abe ending slavery than did everything in their power to ensure Lincoln would end slavery
Poetic honestly
The containment and eventual phasing out of slavery was a goal of Northerners, it was the majority-held view, including of Lincoln. There was also a sizeable minority of abolitionists up North, too who *cannot* be ignored. But how it would be phased out was the debate, as it was widely accepted that it would be nearly impossible to integrate POC into the wider society due to white supremacy being a majority held view in the North and South.
@@camoking3609 thats fucking hilarious
"oh you dont like reducing slavery for a bit? well now its gone"
@@maritofuentes8937 hey.. they all left, so nobody was there to vote against him
@@camoking3609that was why America won. The stupid racist conservatives were out so the north was finally able to get shit done, and they did.
The fact that there are people who not only defend the confederacy but will proudly display its flag is crazy. Openly just parading a round a symbol of slavery
Always remember that they lost. These lost causers are waving the flag of people-owning losers. There is nothing noble about slave trading. Also, listen to Tom Lehrer’s satirical song called “I wanna go back to dixie” that says the quiet part out loud
I'm from the deep south. Years ago in highschool it was not uncommon to see both black and white kids flying confederate flags on their trucks.
Only place in the country you see a black dude with cowboy boots and hat driving a lifted truck with a confederate flag on it.
@@oopsiesbrother really just shows to go how brainwashed people are to where the flag that symbolized the enslavement of their own people
The greater irony is that, at its peak, the Confederacy had a larger, more powerful federal government than the Union did at the time. So the whole state's rights argument really falls flat when confronted with that fact.
So they had a more powerful government? More experienced generals, and still fuggin lost? Thats amazing 😂😂😂
@@nanotech1921 Basically. But the thing is, a big part of why they lost was that the North was more industrialized than the largely agrarian South. So the North could sustain its war machine for far longer than the South could, especially since the South was basically blockaded by the North and cut off from the rest of the world. If anything, it was because of those experienced generals that the South stayed in the war for longer than it should have.
They even mentioned those industrial deficiencies near the beginning of the movie "Gone With the Wind," where several men were discussing the prospect of war with the North. Rhett Butler said that since the North was an industrial powerhouse compared to the South, the North would be more likely to win.
This statement earned the ire of some other men in the room, who thought (incorrectly, at least in the context of the Civil War) that fighting spirit more than made up for the lack of industry needed to actually win a war, to the point where they even challenged Rhett to a duel.
Ironically, Rhett went on to fight for the Confederacy, even though he knew that it was a lost cause (an actual lost cause, not the so-called "Lost Cause of the Confederacy" narrative that the South tried to spin to make themselves feel better about losing and falsely paint the North as the real aggressors of the conflict).
The confederates literally outlined, published and formally adopted their reasons for war. There should be no question.
Ya they were all open about slavery till the war was over then they changed the narrative to make their rebellion more morally justified than it actually was
right but that assumes people read.
What document? Where? Are you talking about the state secession documents because secession doesn't equal war?
@@danielboone8256 their Declaration of Seccession, a ton of their Speeches and even their Memours, its really Overwhelming. (Also a Reminder the South Shot 1st by Shooting at a Union Fort.)
Some of them might even get you cancelled today just reading them.
Yes and they literally stated other reasons as well. Slavery was just out of many and it had huge impact since their entire industry was agricultural (there was literally no way they could do anything else in the south)
My favorite take:
"Star Trek has been a part of our culture ten times longer than the confederacy. We should be building statutes of Spock."
We should be building statues of Spock anyway. Leonard Nimoy was one of the greatest people to ever grace the science fiction space.
There a statue of Jane way
we already do tbh
how about statues of the teletubbies.
Futurama:
"By the way, could you answer my question, you fucking traitor?" literally flies by so fast you almost miss the fact it's the best line in this whole thing
Yeah, the confederacy wanted slavery, so what? Why is that wrong?
@@rodionraskolnikov3853...be...because slavery is y'know, pretty fucking evil??????? Like that's not really up for debate, here.
@@lexingtonbrython1897 I always hear you people say it’s evil but never why it’s evil. You people bring up starvation and abuse but that would make starvation and abuse wrong not slavery. I want to know why slavery is inherently evil.
@@lexingtonbrython1897 that’s what I thought
@rodionraskolnikov3853 my dude bro my guy I'm crying. I cannot believe you're out here saying this in the year 20 fucking 24.
humans have a right to freedom. humans have a right to choose how they live their life. to FORCE someone to do your bidding, literally to OWN them? that goes against human nature entirely. human nature is freedom and autonomy. no I do not care if you're as sweet as peach pie to someone if you claim to fucking OWN them. humans aren't inanimate objects to be bought and sold. most humans (with the exception of you, apparently) are capable of intelligent thought and making their own decisions, and to restrict that autonomy is wrong.
I cannot believe you're actually out here unironically defending stripping another human being of their humanity by OWNING them. that's so fucked up.
"why is slavery evil" you're not smart or funny or cool. you're a dick. and you're lucky that I'm petty enough to deign you with a response bc obviously the other two people in this comment section know better than to engage with someone like you. go outside. live. learn. grow. better yourself. goodness knows everyone around you would appreciate it
Honestly mentioning the Republic of Texas and how that lasted 10 years would be fucking hilarious, a PART of the Confederacy was independent for LONGER than the Confederacy was.
"Very few things in history are black and white"
Yes and in every single conceivable definition of that phrase slavery was one of those few things
Slavery seemed like a pretty Black and White issue to me
@@meddlerfilms2585 I was wondering if anyone someone would point out that particular piece of wordplay... it took one hour XD
and to make matters worse i saw this post on twitter and theres soo many bloody comments of calling this guy demonic or a woke sympathizer for making the animation
@@pyromaniac2104i was here before the video was an hour. Trust me it took around 20 - 30 minutes
@@TimothyMark7 Yeah, extreme conservatives(particularly Evanganical Fundementalists) like demonization as it allows them to authorize any and all tactics against whatever group.
After all, if you are fighting the embodiment of evil what could be too heinous to fight with? Whatever it is the embodiment of pure evil is going to do worse anyway
"Slavery involves owning men, and men owning men is gay."
-Abraham Lincoln or something, idk
Thats true, I was there.👍
Danger Danger... high voltage.
Funnily enough the LGBTQ+ community lasted longer than the confederacy
So he wasn't a slavery supporter, but sure as hell was a homophobe
Stay mad traitor fanboy.
Aqua teen Hunger Force lasted longer than the confederacy but yet we have no statues to master shake and that’s a mistake we must correct
Hold on why does it gotta be master shake? Why not Frylock or Meatwad or Carl?
@@joshuawillis602 all are acceptable
@@DeadpoolzillaReplace all Confederate statues with Early Cuyler.
I agree
Hear Hear!
The way that Confederacy apologists act like states having huge amounts of slaves as if it was just some minor issue is wild. Some states had almost half of their population in chains. How could that not be the biggest issue imaginable?
"Well you see, slaves arent technically people so they don't count as part of the population"
-slave owners
It gets even crazier when you realize that 90% of slaves were owned by 2% of the white population
They were so rich it was common for them to own hundreds of slaves
Almost half? Heck, South Carolina and Georgia were majority slaves! In addition to that, the master-slave relationship was a fundamental unit of southern culture, and slaves were looked as a symbol of being successful. 4 million out of 9 million were slaves.
BuHt StAtEs RiGhTz
I was about to type that, GA was 3/5 slaves or so
They literally had a law to more or less make slaves sorta have votes to let the slave states have more votes.
I know it involved slaves being the same as 0.6 of a white person
The fact that the Wii U outlived the Confederacy is hilarious. And both ended up being hated in retrospect.
I like the Wii U
Actually, people like the Wii U now, just like with the Dreamcast
Sorry who hates the Wii U?
Here’s another thing that outlived the American Confederacy
*Limp Bizkit*
Xbox ahh Profile pic
I would love to drive through rural Arkansas and see an Annoying Orange flag triumphantly billowing in the breeze.
Hey apple...hey apple...hey apple...
Same. Better than seeing the freaking Confederate flag
@@raidenakajacktheripper5988or one of those gradient flags of the USA and CSA (saw one on a light post when driving thru a small WEST VIRGINIAN town
Add in the Ps vita as a decal on that car, and I'll be happy.
I'm pretty sure those are already a thing... wait no those are trump flags
"very few things in history are black and white."
True, but slavery was, by definition, black and white.
If that was a pun, well done
@@weebandgaminginc.7593 it was, and thank you good sir
American slavery, yes.
Anywhere else, if you weren't protected, you were free labour.
Ottoman Empire probably had the worst type of slavery and a lot of those were European or Indian
@@adamsalt9423 there is no worst type of slavery. All slavery is bad slavery.
@weebandgaminginc.7593 correction, all slavery is terrible slavery. Ottoman is just things like forcing parents to work to death knowing that if they let up for one minute they will be tossed overboard and their kid will take their place
Saw a tweet saying that today was the anniversary of the confederacy surrendering, and this video is still my go-to
When your "rights" means taking away another person's freedom, that is evil.
you know what's even more fucked up than that getting sold into slavery by your own race nasty little part they leave out it is a lot of times in Africa larger tribes would conquer smaller ones and then sell the people that they had Concord to Europeans on the coast history is fucked
"but, but, but, the economy!!! The agriculture!"
@@tyrichmond3516 "But if we free the slaves, they will seek revenge on us for enslaving them !!!"
like.......... i don't see the problem here.
Did you know a group of people that rhymes with whose (youtube deleted my comment so maybe this way it'll make it through) ran the African American slave trade, were heavily overrepresented in slave ownership (only a small % of people actually owned any), and the cults behind the American revolution are based heavily on whodiasm.
Maybe rhymes with news was a better way to say it because the spelling is the same, eh whatever
Abraham Lincoln having his Clone High design is an underappreciated joke
This is the first time he had him colored from the bust in the presented poo video
you know, saying that makes me realize(as far as i remember) there's no clone associated with the confederacy in clone high, hell i don't even think sanders shows up
Scrolled for longer then I care to admit for validation in that observation 😁
I didn't watch clone high but I appreciate it.
Tf2's major update waiting list is over one and a half of the CSA's existence.
It already ended at the saxton hale update
Some more things that lasted longer than the Confederacy:
- Steven Universe
- The wait for the FNAF movie
- The Pokémon anime
- The Disney Renaissance
- The peak of my obsession with dragons
- The Wings of Fire book series
- Miraculous Ladybug (still going)
- The period of time between the release of HTTYD 1 and 3
- The period of time between the release of HTTYD *2* and 3
- The period between the beginning of Percy Jackson and the Olympians and the end of Heroes of Olympus
*-SMG4* (still going)
- The Harry Potter series
- Both of my dogs (still here)
- The period between Taylor Swift’s first album and her most recent one
- The wait for Hollow Knight: Silksong ( s t i l l g o i n g )
- My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
- The length of time between Bo Burnham’s first and most recent specials
- The Star Wars franchise ( s t i l l g o i n g )
I could go on for ages, but I think y’all get the point.
The dorito locos taco from taco bell
Civilization 6 came out in 2016 and the devs are still updating it, so there
- Team Fortress 2 development time (9 years)
- The wait for BFDIA 6
- Most people with Down syndrome
- Some people with *Edwards* and *Patau* syndrome
the time between the 10th metallica studio album and 11th is almost double the length of the confederacy (not counting live albums)
Boggles the mind that some people still try to defend the Confederacy
I defend pirates and the life of piracy than any military soldier on the battlefield.
You can see one of them in this comments section. They have an anime PFP.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hrwhich kind of pirate?
public education in the US is not good
@@kade-qt1zuOf course they do
Slavery is morally evil. I just hope that people don't see it as only legally evil
youre really not going to like reading the amendment on slavery then
Well the problem thier is, morality is completely man made, meaning thier are people who view it as morraly ok
Boi, are you not going to like history then, because prior to the Colonial Powers putting the crackdown on it (the irony is palpable) everyone was doin it.
@@draochvar9646 love the pfp
Morality is a concept that we made, slavery is in nature, so is racism.
I still dont support it, so you can get mad at someone else
Way down south in the land of the traitors🗣️🔥🔥
COME AWAY
COME AWAY🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
COME AWAY
WHERE COTTON'S KING AND MEN ARE CHATTEL
WHERE COTTON'S KING AND MEN ARE CHATTLES
It’s so perfect that the entire argument is completely dismantled with something as simple as “states rights to do what?”
To have slaves, why is that wrong?
@@rodionraskolnikov3853You’re a troll, but it’s wrong because:
A. Slaves were literally forced to work until they died
B. Slaves rarely ever got an education
C. They were payed nothing
D. Nobody loves you
Why are any of those things wrong?
@@rodionraskolnikov3853 shut up weirdo
The argument seems to be extremely petty, it goes off the base assumption that the only cause of the civil war was for slavery and not the fear of more rights being taken away, because they viewed slavery *AS* a right, all you’re doing is suggesting that if any other right had been taken from them they wouldn’t have succeeded.
Pointing out how the Confederacy was outlived by the Annoying Orange is a nice new insult.
Also Union Dixie was a nice cherry on top.
I like the Confederate Dixie song more.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hrtraitor
Yes
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hrtbh im honestly surprised some hill billies managed to create such a banger I prefer the instrumental tho.
AWAY DOWN SOUTH IN THE LAND OF TRAITORS
it's sad that we live in a world where "slavery is bad" is considered controversial.
its not, not a single person has argued slavery was a good thing here. just the south had many other reasons to want to leave
@@RandomGamerCory Yeah and the biggest concern was slavery. The most giant. The reason why they seceded was because there were more non-slavery states then slavery states making banning slavery easy. For example, south carolina, the first state is secede is, “an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding states to the institution of slavery,”
@@trgethan2470maybe among the rich elite the only ones to own slaves, the majority just hated the north for how they treated the south
@@RandomGamerCory they did not treat the south badly. That’s already been debunked ten times over
@@RandomGamerCory you’re still sharing white supremacy disinformation.
Confederate volunteers in 1861 were 42% more likely to own slaves themselves or to live with family members who owned slaves than the general population.
More than 50% of confederate officers in 1861 owned slaves, and none of them lived with family members who were slaveholders.
25% of southern households enslaved people. In some states like Mississippi, 50% of households had at least one enslaved person. Enslaving a person in the American South was as common as it is today to own a second car.
Slavery was rapidly growing and being aggressively, violently expanded to other states with absolutely no intention of ending.
Funny thing is
Apparently the CSA had a more powerful Federal Government, ASWELL as more experienced Generals, and were even winning the war for awhile
And they still fuggin lost
It’s poetic
Ironic then that they wanted to get away from a strong federal government and became the Feds.
Less ironic and more illuminating: the Southerners claiming states' rights were liars. They didn't actually believe in it, it was only ever an excuse for slavery.
CSA may have had a more powerful central government on paper (citation needed), but I believe in actuality the Union had more centralized power. Andrew Jackson lamented not having as much / similar war powers or authority as Lincoln did.
To this day I'm honored that one of my first ancestors that moved to Texas, went back North to fight for the Union once the War of Southern Aggression started.
super gay but alright
@@Skismatic Nothin' gay about winning.
@@swarm8687winning doesn’t change the fact that ur gay
@@Skismaticcope, traitor-boy. also, get a hobby. you’re under, like, every comment on this video
@@Skismaticis being gay a bad thing lmao
"State's rights to do what?"
"It isn't all about slavery."
"Strange, I never mentioned slavery, so why are you preemptively arguing that it wasn't about slavery?"
Was this a conversation you had between the voices in your head?
@@genericprotagonist2842probably. You don’t have conversations in your head? It helps to pass the time
@@mobcrusher99Can’t forget it also temporarily eases the crippling loneliness as well.
@@mobcrusher99confederates don’t have a conscience so they’re unable to do that :^)
When Columbo is interrogating you about your support for the Confederacy.
"Oh, well, you see sir, it's just that I never mentioned slavery, but you specifically said that it wasn't about that. I'm sorry, sir, it's just that these things, they bother me. See, if the Civil War wasn't about slavery, and I never mentioned slavery, why is it that you were thinking about slavery? Oh, no, I'd never accuse you of being a slaver, sir. It just seems strange to me, is all."
A list of things that lasted longer than the Confederacy:
-The gap between Splatoon 2 and Splatoon 3 (5 years)
- The wait for the Don't Hug Me I'm Scared TV Series (6 years)
- Liveleak (15 years)
- Porn on Tumblr (11 years)
- Red Dead Redemption 2 development period (8 years)
- The original run for Action Park (18 years)
- Grey's Anatomy ( 18 years, ongoing)
- My dad's dog, Koda (9 years, ongoing)
The Walking Dead (11 Years)
the entire New Super Mario Bros series (13 years)
McDonald's (83 years)
@@novaskinner5595 McDonald's has been around for 83 fucking years? Holy shit
@@downwordspiralofpissyour crying
_“You can’t own another dude my guy, that’s hella gay.”_
- Abraham Lincoln probably idk I didn’t do the reading
unfunny
@@TjBaxyhorrendous comeback
@@Skismatic
>horrendous comeback
Just like you defending slavery?
@@Skismatic you literally replied "unfunny", YOUR comeback is horrendous, and like the other guy said, not as horrendous at your political beliefs
Being a sore loser for almost 160 years is crazy. Lol
When the winner is immoral you should always speak out against it
@@rodionraskolnikov3853 the winner is not immoral at all
@@joshuawillis602 that’s my point
@@rodionraskolnikov3853 no it isn’t. You’re a troll with a poor grasp of history
Being worried about them for 160 years is crazy.
As a black man, it truly warms my heart that the content creators I support aren’t slime.
I mean, he is green and called "goobus doobus" but other than that yeah I agree
@@emeraldhamster Hey, just because he's made out of slime doesn't mean he has to act like it.
@@mikeymikesh fair enough
@@mikeymikeshI thought he was made of broccoli.
@@MegaManXPoweredUp Well he's not.
Things that lasted longer than the Confederacy:
-RuPaul’s Drag Race
-Barack Obama’s presidency
-The Lifespan of the Wii U
-Ghostbusters Cereal
-MySpace
-Microsoft Zune
-Bionicle
-New Coke
-The Development of Duke Nukem Forever
-The Development of Half life 3 lasted longer than the confederacy
-Fucking life span of Dreamcast lasted longer than confederacy (1998 until 2007)
-Teen Titans Go lasted longer than the confederacy
-Fornite lasted longer than the confederacy
The confederacy and duke nukem forever have one thing in common
They both ended up being garbage
- Doritos
- Mtn Dew
- SPAM
- Nazi Germany
- Soviet Russia
- Japanese Empire
- China (Still here but failing economically)
- Markiplier
- Jacksepticeye
- Pewdipie
- Jschlatt
- And many more~
@@imokguysivetoldyoutoomanyt2427 Phil DeFranco
Ray William Johnson
8BitRyan
Poiised
Dashie
CoreyxKenshin
Smosh
CollegeHumor
….im just naming off UA-cam channels.
Pokemon Go
An achievement on the game The Stanley Parable is called “Go Outside” where you can’t play the game for five years.
A joke achievement that you can realistically get requires you to not play the game for longer than the Confederacy’s lifespan.
Greetings traveler, it appears you are viewing comments by Newest, I can only wish you the best of fortune on the perilous journey looking through a flurry of stupidity and ratios that await your travels.
Thanks dearly fellow wanderer.
Lmfao so glad I found this comment
Thank you
love this
My thanks oh helpful guider. My quest is not finished yet!
I never thought I'd hear the phrase "The Annoying Orange outlived the Confederacy," but here we are
It was a fucking amazing insult. You could even apply it to The 3rd Reich.
Can we take a moment to appreciate how Doobus Drew Annoying Orange. He looks so hideous and disturbing, and yet he looks so accurate.
Same lmao
i mean if you want a different example im sure we could find a ton
@jamesolszewski3782Texas would be cool if they actually did it
God Tier content.
No actually this lowest common denominator content
👍
It should need more information
Nice
Nice
The fact that there are live service games that lasted longer than a recognised country confuses and frightens me
Not a single country recognised the Confederacy. Which honestly just makes it even more laughable.
@@TheGloriousLobsterEmperornot one? Damn
@@juannaym8488 Not one.
The confederacy also lasted less than Keeping up with the Kardashians, the FNAF franchise, Miraculous Ladybug and the development of the Gambit movie before it got cancelled
It’s sad that this could be considered controversial
Very
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it is on twitter cause people are going after doobus for making this
Yeah I hate that respecting a country founded for and only for slavery is seen as an acceptable outlook on life to some people
Controversial but entirely factual
Imagine living in a simulation where saying something as simple as "slavery is bad" causes controversy
Oh wait...
Imagine if it wasn’t even a simulation, and we really were just stuck in that shitty reality forever.
Wait a minu-
hOld OnN NoW!1!1!
@@purpleemerald5299 yeah, people don't seem much upset about the slavery that still exists in Islamic countries.
@@stevecinneide8183 If the only argument you have is whataboutism, then you have no argument.
Slavery is bad until it profits corporations and governments. Then it’s not bad it’s “just business”.
"The fucking annoying orange lasted longer than the confederacy dude." Such words have never been so horrifying.
Yeah, it’s a shame so many people really do think the civil war wasn’t about slavery. Wish my school taught me better about the history of racism, because I still have catching up to do, and I’m halfway done with high school.
No You don’t
Yeah. As a southerner I’ve heard this argument all my life and believed it for a while. But when you look into it you find that the entire idea that it was JUST about “rights” was propagated by slave owners who were trying to justify how they tore apart the country for their profit margins on the plantations. Most of those scripts are post war and the same people who wrote them were all in on the slavery and white supremacy aspect before the union kicked the south’s teeth in. After they lost the war, they scrambled to save face in the new era.
kicked the souths teeth in? haha you cant be serious. they lost around 2 soldiers for every one southern soldier that died. The only thing the north was good at was conscription of people to throw at the south. Theirs a reason why they didnt kill most of the people who rebelled, they couldn't without risking a guerilla war, and having a few hundred thousand or so soldiers going around pillaging and killing union people for likely a decade or more been pretty damn hard to deal with.
"Rights" then why are we throwing a hissy fit when a state gets founded as a free state and we do protests about it...? Hmmm I mean just...
Also the majority of people who fought in the war didn't even own slaves and they ate that slop up. When are they gonna wake up and learn they were used? Eat the rich. EAT THE RICH. You didn't have rights, you were dispensable.
Yeah. Doobus kind of touched on it, but literally every leader of the confederacy was full throated in their support of slavery and their desire to defend & expand it. They just couldn't stop writing papers and speeches about how much they loved owning other people as property and how bigmad they were that the US *might* abolish the practice. History may be shades of grey, but I think we can safely take the Confederate leaders word on the real causes for the civil war.
@@Ugh-Fudge_Bwana General Lee.
You can thank the Daughters of the Confederacy for the revisionist bullshit.
Today we have the same group under a new name: Moms for Liberty.
I wish we could revive Fredrick Douglass for the sole purpose of having him do professional wrestling moves on racists.
Lincoln was an actual semipro wrestler, losing only two known fights-one was for the position of militia captain
@@warlordofbritanniahe could beat every racist in a 1v1
We have a statue of Freddy D. At my university (it was one of the last places he ever held a public sermon) and frankly I couldn't be prouder. He was such a cool guy.
@@warlordofbritannia As a young man Lincoln took no shit. As an adult he has more humility.
@@Mr.Tw1sty
Screw that, 2v1. And just imagine the entertainment value:
“What’s this? Why it’s Abraham Lincoln with a steel chair!”
“Davis is down! Davis is out cold!”
“And for the second consecutive term, Abraham Lincoln is the American heavyweight President!”
People who have lived over the age of 4 get a reward for outliving the Confederacy.
I once saw my grandparents flying the confederate flag, which really says something when I'm Canadian
Do they have dementia?
@@Jonathan-rk4uqdo you know who else has dementia?
Do you know who el-
@@unfortunate3256 real
"The annoying orange out lived you" is one brutal line.
Nobody fought a war over the Annoying Orange.
@@mysteryman4915still a true statement tho
@@mysteryman4915clearly, you never witnessed the marshmallow wars of cartoon network circa 2014
@@mysteryman4915till pretty embarrassing how a “government” full of people was outlive by a orange with a guys mouth photoshopped on to it
@@mysteryman4915CHEESE 🧀🧀🧀🧀🧀
hey so super fun fact: the confederacy actually had LESS states rights because one of the very few changes to their law was no state could do anything to limit the slave trade
Wow! I had no idea! Well, what states rights did the confederacy really then? Just curious.
@@g.d.dodgeconverse9221 Rich white guys can do whatever they want, everyone else is shit under those guys heels.
Yeah, pretty ironic how tyrannical and oppressive the CSA became.
The states' rights to... not have the right to undo slavery.
*Individual rights* is the argument...
*As long as you were a landowning white male*
I want "States rights to do what!?" On a T-shirt.
Horrible argument on a t shirt? why?
Horrible argument how? @@Skismatic
@@Skismaticbraindead reply? Why?
@@Jonathan-rk4uqad hominem.
@@TjBaxyhow in any way does that make sense? even if ur not its still a horrible argument. Its a strawman, literally.
You see it's real simple: violating basic human rights is one thing, but interfering with states rights, now that's just unacceptable.
If the South was concerned about States' Rights, they wouldn't have spent the 1850s stepping all over the Northern states' rights like the Fugitive Slave Act. Additionally, the CSA formed a stronger federal government than the Union by forbidding any state legislature to be made against slavery and was the first to begin conscription.
As a full blooded southern American I support this fully. The confederacy was a failure from its conception
@@boomerkobold3943 Honey, keep telling yourself that.
@@pun2023 Watch Obama cry and scream at night because boomerkobold3943 sleeps with his Xi Jinping body pillow nightly.
@@pun2023 As long as the ATF and CIA exist I will never be happy about the Federal government. Get bent Commie.
@@boomerkobold3943 Sure..sure, let’s get your meds now
Yeah if it was a she confederacy rather than a he confederacy, the South would have won.
Whats crazier about this is that the confederacy was HELLA poor. I remember as a kid reading that they couldn’t even afford military uniforms. They just fought in their own clothes, and with their personal guns. Also, take note, slavery was hella expensive. You had to have money to own slaves. So the fact that a bunch of poor farmers were fighting for slavery, despite not having the pennies to afford it, blows my mind...
Their money maker was on the line pretty much.
Racism. It was only fighting to maintain control over a group of people they deemed less than.
A lot of racist are also narcissist.
Abusing, mistreating, discriminating, torturing, r*ping, violating, killing made these psychopaths feel better about themselves. Superiority complex to hide their inferiority complex.
Also, a sign of status that gave respect and admiration from other evil people. Being racist made people feel better about themselves, abusing made them feel better, and owning slaves was a sign of wealth and authority.
No different than Nazi's.
These evil people felt better, powerful, and good bullying others.
It boosted their ego like winning a competitive game or challenge.
Whatever threathens or challenged their ego they needed to destroy because if they lose they would be exposed as weak, inferior, ignorant, stupid, poor.
This world is pure evil.
Always has been.
they were just racist
Keep in mind at the time people thought themselves as statesmen first before countrymen
Even if the Confederacy survives, its economic system would become akin to the banana republic
I looked through my family history, and my great x3 grandfather fought for the Confederacy until he saw what slavery really looked like. He switched sides and fought with the Union until the war ended.
And many others also did. They called them "Galvanized Yankees" and most would then serve out west.
Press X to doubt
@@chris135x
Press Y because chris135 is an idiot.
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Fucking Baldi’s Basics lasted longer than the confederacy. Fucking Baldi’s Basics😭
Even the argument about state's rights lasted longer than the Confederacy did
It was state’s rights, Confederate sympathisers just don’t want to admit that the rights the Confederate States wanted were slavery.
lol honestly states right might be the only thing the confederacy did because we need more state rights now
this video lasted longer than the Confederacy
@@kartoffelgaming5371
I’ve heard of erections lasting longer than the Confederacy
@@ULTRAMARINE_XJ to do what
My history teacher was like "Now they claimed to be fighting for states rights, But that's bullshit because the Confederates were like 'I want the freedom to take your freedom'"
Hmm just like the founding fathers
@@rodionraskolnikov3853 Exactly "All men are created equal... As long as they're a straight, white, able-bodied, christian."
@@errorsheep And remember WHITE white. No Irish, no Italian, no Slavic (where the word Slave comes from, semi-unrelated fun fact), no Jewish, no Scandinavian, etc. Just English, French, Spanish, German, and Scottish - and only certain mini-ethnicities of German, Spanish, and Scottish.
Almost like it's been bullshit divisive arbitrary lines in the sand that are drawn, redrawn, and altered to be convenient to whoever's agenda. It wasn't until after (iirc) the Prohibition that Irish-Americans and Italian-Americans were considered "white ethnicities" by the government.
@@rodionraskolnikov3853 Ssssoorrrrt of? Some were less shitty than others. Now, the first settlers, the Puritans, absolutely. "We're so oppressed by the English church, they won't let us oppress anyone!"
@@colbyboucher6391 people need to be oppressed
Lincoln also didn't start the war, he made sure that in any case, the Union didn't attack the south first. Lincoln put the issue of civil war on the south
Then why did they occupy Southern forts when asked to leave sovereign land?
@@rodionraskolnikov3853 because they were US forts that the south stole.
@@xavierwhitcraft1310 how can you steal land from a country you are not a part of anymore?
@@rodionraskolnikov3853
Spoken like the Nazi you are.
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@@rodionraskolnikov3853 the US didn’t acknowledge the existence of the CSA. It was simply a region in open rebellion.
THANK YOU! I HEAR THIS SHIT IN FLORIDA EVERY DAY BRO
My favorite part is that Doobus isn't the one who says slavery first. The Grey guy was the one who brings it up by saying there was more to it than slavery. The grey one admits slavery first.
First Strike Fallacy. Provoking it doesn't prove your argument. It just makes you the asshole in that situation. That said, he simply didn't have the argument other than the slavery angle ever since he started trying to explain the purpose of the confederacy.
@@LoneSWarrior Fallacy Fallacy. Pointing out a fallacy in a statement does not inherently weaken the statement.
@@LoneSWarrior Yeah, I looked it up. First strike fallacy isn't a thing. Only one thing out of many mentions "first strike fallacy" and even then, the article is about coin dealing. The only actual fallacy that comes up when you search "first strike fallacy" is the gambler's fallacy, a belief that as more of the same thing happens consecutively, a different result is more likely to happen.
You made this up.
I made it the fuck up like a true american. The logic still stands: Pressuring, threatening, provoking or otherwise forcing a state of duress in an argument to your opponent doesn't create a non-biased neutral playing field for debate. And Doobus historically points out and cites his information here anyway, so although the argument was definitely heated from his side, his points disregard any bias from the facts given. He admits slavery first but Doobus heavily implied it and confirmed his implications from his sources and topics thereof.
@@LoneSWarrior actually he didnt even imply anything he asked a simple question and it was "states rights to do what", thats not implication, its litterally just asking what they wanted to do
"How dare you oppress our right to oppress others?"
I cannot take anyone seriously who cries oppression when they're literally owning slaves.
Seriously, I can't get over it. HOW???
$$$$$$$$ is their reason
Normal cry about it
@@michakoniecpolski5677normal for cucks you mean
@@michakoniecpolski5677 Weak ass ragebait fr 🤡
it isnt a problem for them since they dont consider slaves like people
Absolutely hysterical that people will screech about "learning your history" and "check your facts" but the moment you point out actual historical facts that don't fit their holier than thou attitude they crumple into whiny babies who take such personal offense at the action they send death threats. And all because you listened to them and took their advice.
a lot of people get mad when there are sources that counter theirs, assuming they actually have any.
Tf2 hasn't received a major update for almost 6 years
Valve didn't give a shit about the game longer than the state
When I say Southern heritage I’m talking about pecan pie, OutKast, and getting car repairs done for the cost of a case of beer and a firm handshake.
Exactly. There's plenty to be proud of if you're a southerner. Just not the confederacy lol.
So something of a Southern Playalistic Cadillac heritage then
GOD DAMN BLESS🫡💖
Don’t forget old fashioned Coca Cola.
OutKast lasted longer than the Confederacy where are my Big Boi statues
It's easy to tell who flunked history classes in school when people try to defend slavery. It was never a right, it's just evil. It's just having common sense
Actually it's worse..... it's not "Who failed history class" it's "Who had a rigged public education system?" Cause when people defend the confederacy..... 9 times outta ten their textbook on the Civil War was bullshit
It's sad, but many schools still support the lost cause myth. "Teaching both sides" is what they call it.
Not if the history class skirted the issue altogether or wrong "facts"
@@BryanWood87ou'd have to live in the actual forest away from humanity as a whole to be able to completely avoid the idea that the few black people you've seen are just like everyone else and deserve empathy. (Not you btw)
I do get what you're saying, the edumacation system is wack but people should still be able to learn basic empathy and not be excused for their transgress no matter how they came to think that way. But yeah we should also address the overarching causes in tandem.
I agree. Who would defend slavery? Now that they are free, they are killing each other at a higher number than slavery or lynching ever did. BLM ✊🏿
I remember knowing very little about the civil war except slavery, so I did some research and I was very surprised. It really WAS only about slavery
I love coming to this video, sorting the comments by new, and seeing all the knuckle dragging confederates pissing with coping and seething.
its really concerning that there are still people who threaten you with death because of a cartoon mocking a dead/non existent country and its defenders.
It wasn't even a country. It was a bunch of assholes pretending to be a country. You only get to be a country if you win- and they took a big fat greasy L.
A 'dead country.'
Well...no it was never 'alive' and not a 'country' (I hate the term 'country' because legally and practicality it means nothing.)
The Confederacy was never a recognized state, or even a Confederacy of states by anyone.
It didn't have to 'die,' it never existed.
@@mickeyrube6623 right you are
@@myleswelnetz6700 you havent made political cartoons about the confederacy, from what I'm seeing
@@mickeyrube6623I like how someone put it, country is a geographical/historical term while state is political
I think there’s an under-appreciated cleverness and irony in starting this bit with “Very few things in history are black and white”.
@@universome511They who? men?
@@catrielmarignaclionti4518 you know who, so why are you asking?
@@universome511 I dont know what are you talking about
@@catrielmarignaclionti4518 Black's, obviously
@@universome511 and what do you think we should do about that?
Among other concerns! Yeah:
-Taxation?
>Nah, the modern version of taxes didn’t actually exist. What existed was tariffs on seafaring trade, of which (according to data gathered from the New York Chamber of Commerce) TWO THIRDS OF TAXES WERE COLLECTED ON TRADE FROM THE NEW YORK HARBOR. Followed closely by Boston Harbor, and in a tiny third place New Orleans. The south basically didn’t really feel any particular increase in taxation. The only actual one was the Morrill Tariff which was only enacted in 61 AFTER Secession, as a punitive measure.
- But, uhh my great great grand uncle Jimpathy said he was fighting for [insert generic quote here] in his letter!
> If my country goes to war today I can decide the enemy are literal reptilian aliens on earth. That doesn’t make it true nor the war just. In contrast all secession documents from the actual seceeding governments and representatives quote directly the preservation of slavery.
-But uhhhh, State rights and autonomy!!
>Yeah the Confederacy has an increasingly centralized form of government, which over its few years of existence went from States Rights to an outright oligopoly, increasingly authoritarian, and increasingly violent towards lower class indivduals, even non-slaves.
>Among other concerns! Yeah:
-Taxation?
>Nah, the modern version of taxes didn’t actually exist. What existed was tariffs on seafaring trade, of which (according to data gathered from the New York Chamber of Commerce) TWO THIRDS OF TAXES WERE COLLECTED ON TRADE FROM THE NEW YORK HARBOR. Followed closely by Boston Harbor, and in a tiny third place New Orleans. The south basically didn’t really feel any particular increase in taxation. The only actual one was the Morrill Tariff which was only enacted in 61 AFTER Secession, as a punitive measure.
- But, uhh my great great grand uncle Jimpathy said he was fighting for [insert generic quote here] in his letter!
> If my country goes to war today I can decide the enemy are literal reptilian aliens on earth. That doesn’t make it true nor the war just. In contrast all secession documents from the actual seceeding governments and representatives quote directly the preservation of slavery.
-But uhhhh, State rights and autonomy!!
>Yeah the Confederacy has an increasingly centralized form of government, which over its few years of existence went from States Rights to an outright oligopoly, increasingly authoritarian, and increasingly violent towards lower class indivduals, even non-slaves.
Minor correction, New York wasn't followed "closely" by Boston at all. It was New York ~60%, Boston at ~15%, New Orleans at ~10% and everyone else combined made up the last 15%
@@MrSpleenfaceThank you for that info. Still comes to show how trade tariffs were basically the major source of tax revenue.
@@lucasmatiasdelaguilamacdon7798 Oh for sure. I think it just emphasizes how truly absurd the Lost Cause claim about taxes is when you illustrate just how outsized New York was as a source of revenue
Slavery was the founding idea for the confederacy….How can people try to say it’s about state’s rights? It wasn’t, it was about slavery. Heck the Europeans were about to support them. Britain specifically gave them a ship to fight the Union. They only stopped when Lincoln made it about slavery. Which then made all of Europe go “well we would look like hypocrites if we supported the confederacy so better stay out of it.”
They never really got close to foreign support as the overwhelming majority of the european population HATED the confederacy and everything it stood for. Their armies would have mutinied before fighting on the side of the confederacy and slavery.
Why did they first decide to support them?
@@rodionraskolnikov3853If I'm not mistaken it is because they weren't to fond of their former colony becoming an industrialized economic powerhouse, so they would have a vested interest in the Union falling. Once it was clearly about slavery their hands were tied because they'd already abolished it.
"A nation SO F*CKING WEAK, the Annoying Orange outlived it." That had me dying 🤣🤣🤣
Valve spent a year longer on a non-seasonal TF2 update then the confederacy spent existing
Would u prefer china?
Mexico owned Texas longer than the CSA existed. Russia owned Alaska longer than the CSA existed. In fact, Russia owned Alaska so long, they established their own national anthem!
My turtle out lived it and I got him for a fourth grade science fair project and I’m almost thirty. I’m sure he’s fueled by hate and spite since he hisses at me still.
@@Dragon66898
Turtles, especially their cousins the tortoise, can live a long and fulfilling life
Unlike the Confederacy
Revisiting since Nikki Haley refused to say “slavery” when asked what caused the Civil War.
common republican L, can't say otherwise because they will be abandoned by their racist base and called woke
Her name is Nimarata Randhawa. She won't respect people's preferred names, don't respect hers.
She's an Indian so her opinion is invalid.
@@wayfaring_stranger1413Technically she was born in the US, so her opinion is valid. It's just that she did a complete 180 on her anti-Confederate stances from a mere FIVE YEARS AGO. Honestly kinda pathetic...
@@wayfaring_stranger1413dude what? get out of here lmao
When you're a child, you learn it was about slavery.
When you start researching it, you learn it was a complex web of economics, politics, and more besides.
But,by the time you finish studying, you come to the conclusion that all the reasons came to the point of Slavery.
The Civil War is one of those rare things in history that, for all its touted complexity, is piss-ass simple in its reasons.
"it was for economic reasons" and yet they forget that most of the souths economy relied on slavery
That doesn’t matter it’s slavery, it’s bad. No excuses
Mostly economic reasons because the South’s economy was DEPENDANT on slavery💀
The CSA wasn’t nearly as nuanced as today’s apologists. Their official statements are openly racist and have little to do with money.
Why don’t you read the whole comment before replying?
States' Rights apologists get real quiet every time someone brings up the Fugitive Slave Act.
If my dog goes onto your property does that make it not my dog?
Nobody cares about that
@@rodionraskolnikov3853 If your slave goes onto my property does it make it not my slave? Are you really comparing people to dogs?
@@Elizarox1987 don’t answer my question with a question just answer the question.
No, where did you see a comparison to dogs?
@@Elizarox1987 no comment