It's amazing how Alan turned a figure drawn in 2006 into the head of a secret corporation who, despite the passage of over 17 years, still uses the same items as then...
It's a small moment, but I like how at 11:23 TSC looks at the pen like he's realizing the moral implications of creating life. Then, the next time we see him, he's being taken back to his cell, suggesting he refused to draw anymore after that.
to be honest, I saw that scene as TSC debating what he could do with that power. he realized that, with just that one eel, he was able to bring the facility's power down, implying breaking down the barrier he is in, which is why they quickly dragged him out of the room
@@Data-Expungeded after looking through every reaction video and also checking the AvA wiki it appears that i made an error, i've been under the assumption that Programmer021 (which i coulda sworn somewhere they make reference to that being DJ but i can't find it) created victim, which is why noogai3 (who we know is Alan) messages him during AvA 2 when he's fighting the chosen one, after all, he is asking programmer how to defeat the chosen one, which would imply he doesn't know about closing the window and not saving (which is how victim was defeated in AvA 1) it looked like programmer was about to tell noogai about that, also the name noogai made me always think that in AvA 2 we're watching a "new guy" a new animator, different from the animator in AvA 1 does that make sense?
i like how they basically confirmed this is victim and not a new character not just that it literally says it, he also used some of the tricks that were in the first ava i like the attention to detail alot but im really curious how he survived being deleted
@@clericwhomakes well AVA 5 did show that certain old scenes may be changed somewhat (in that video Chosen One and Dark Lord are shown running and escaping the explosion where in the original the explosion was instant) so its entirely possible one of the clones just slipped off screen at some point.
i heard that files in adobe animation can be recovered even if you clicked "don't save", they must remain for some time in memory. And if tco and tdl could survive the destruction of the motherboard(their files must have been lost), so could victim. They seem be able to coexist even without their files saved anywhere
the "fight" (more like beatup) scene between victim and TCO is so, so dark. i was completely caught off guard by just how much of it was just senseless violence. it says a lot that TCO tried to freeze himself (since from what i can tell it looked intentional). this is honestly one of the most succinct ways i've seen a villain introduced to an animated series. just absolutely sadistic and ruthless. they didn't have to do any of that!
TCO had much worse time in Alan's pc than Victim for victim the torture was short lived and he seems to be purposefully using a leash... to trigger TCO, to remind him of his trauma... ever more painful
the thing is, TSC doesnt remember the fight, and in the fight, he was going bc of an "impulse", that he got beaten up now, just imagine what he can do if he focuses and doesnt loose conciousnes like last time (i have a feeling it will be the final fight: TSC, and the cursor [Alan Becker], controled by Victim)
I find it interesting how The Box is where Victim, as Alan puts it, is "...the only place he can have the upper hand..." (5:54) considering that he is allowing himself to be subjected to the same animation editing tools Alan used on Victim back in Animator vs. Animation I. Victim is strong when using the tools he was tortured with, which may end up backfiring on him...
Correction: He’s strong when using those tools AND when his strength and speed are buffed, he has clones, and his enemy has their powers nullified, inverted, or decreased.
@@lailoutherand where did the sudden victim hate come from? obviously he would use external tools to help himself win against TCO, his name is literally victim, he was made to be weak. And it's not like TCO is fully innocent, too
Just realized that the very end (15:50) isn't just showing how The Victim hates Alan,(for whatever reason) but it's a reference to Alan's channel's Pfp.
wdym for some reason? he was almost immediately killed for no reason. The first thing Alan ever did was drop a weight to crush him, and then immeadly made a gun to shoot him. idk about you but i think that's a reason
so basically in this episode we see that victim is just a normal person cause to fight TCO he needed his agents to control his fighting and give him abilities
@@AAHumann_ Well, It's clear that he wants to kill Alan, because victim was deleted when he was winning, but for that he needs to get as powerful as other stickmans, he was watching the TCO fight and win, that's why he wanted to defeat him by himself to prove that he is stronger
I'm actually surprised of allan saying how long the animation took to make and yet I wasn't expecting a new AVA episode this soon. Like 6 MONTHS?! WE HAD TO WAIT YEARS BETWEEN AVA 4 AND 5!!!!!! I'm deeply happy I could wait years just to see another chapter of this masterpiece
At 11:00 the eel pulses with the same green energy as The Second Coming from AvA IV when he defeated The Dark Lord. I think the green energy may be a representation of animation itself (or maybe some sort of "creative" force?) because it's what makes TSC's drawings come to life, and also allowed TSC to heal himself and also resurrect (or "reanimate") his friends. It seems like TSC is the only one with this force within him because he's the only stick figure we've seen animate so far. Really excited to see if we discover what this green energy really is.
Probably some kind of life force, if you know what I mean. Every other character has massive, destructive powers, there had to be someone whose powers could balance it all out.
With some close inspection, it appears the green energy is coming from TSC, or at least, the Eel is sending some electricity, but TSC blocks it? Or it's almost like an extension of TSC so they share a similar energy of sorts Could very well be analyzing it too much though, lol
So Agent Smith lowered TCOs power level and STILL had to individually lower each of his attacks because he was too op. Also I like the fact that TCO is very powerful, but not exactly the smartest, though not dumb either. He never needed to be too resourceful to win
@@DawnAfternoonhis strength was reduced down to 10, and victim's was multiplied by 10. For TCO to over 100x faster and stronger... ...Well, we're already aware of how TSC outclassed him when his powers were awakened. If we want to take this further, we could estimate his abilities were also dropped down to a tenth each, making an individual ability 1000x stronger than Victim... And yet, Victim is the major villain.
@@hadesciphernius5244And being more overpowered when conscious as in the first TSC he wasn't conscious so imagine his power with the pencil the facility would get destroyed
I feel like this goes to show how powerful the dark lord, the chosen one, and second coming are that victim and the mercenaries seem to be forced to steal/recover art tools to stand a chance at fighting them. I am curious to find out victim’s plan to fight animator because fighting the sticks are one thing, however fighting the animator seems like a challenge to large to try to accomplish. Obviously they will probably force yellow to summon the animator but I have a feeling that the limiter box will be too weak to fight the animator. Edit: I also like how conveniently that Chosen One stops the memory viewer so that they can’t see him enter and visit the second coming at Alan’s PC and instead we go back further to the fight between second coming and the dark lord.
The signal lost might been more like that, Alan's PC and that stickman world have a barrier that the tec they have cannot pass yet, so it dosen't show that part
Seriously, TCO beat "tribal stickman, pixel stickman, & desktop stickman" in one go. The Hierarchy is TSC > TDL > TCO So if TCO is able to beat 3 of the 5 antagonists already, it doesn't take too long to realize that it wouldn't be hard for the good side to win. Especially since victim is PATHETIC, and the agent stickman could get beat by either TDL or TSC.
Can we talk about how they nearly zeroed TCO’s powers and buffed Victim to the ceiling and yet TCO still managed to hold his ground? This man is a fucking god
He's also smart, shown by him adapting in the middle of the fight and using his propulsion flames offensively because his regular attacks have been nullified or inverted.
One thing i noticed is that when the employee drew with the pen tool his arm was kinda stick-like but when TSC draws his arm was like smooth and kinda ragdoll-ish
DJ analyzing the fight scene and I'm just yelling "Stop beating up your little brother! Leave the middle child alone already!" Love this so much, can't wait to see where this is going.
Technically if you think about it victim is the older (brother) because Alan created him first and then tco,tdl and tsc is the youngest one You can call them a family lol
victim is such a scary villain in this episode. He might not plan to destroy the world like TDL (yet) but he is way more menacing. He's out for cursor blood.
How exactly does he plan to kill Alan tho ? We saw when the cursor was destroyed against TDL, the window just crashed. And the worst the victim could do to Alan would be to wreck his computer anyways...
@@teamok1025the Grey stickmin is victim, from the Very First AvA, everyone thought he got deleted at the end of the episode when ava closed Adobe without saving but clearly this is not the case
Daammnnn I remember Victim now from the very first animation. He's... Really going places, wow. Also the fact that he's powerless compared to all your creations afterwards, Alan. I love how you portrayed that. _Also, dammit, of course you went all out and it involved extra one-time assets. Even I don't have the patience for animating all that and I'd love to put down that much detail too._ Ya know what, I appreciate this flex, showing the world what true animation is and true passion looks like, all along with the rest of the animators of the indie space. Thanks so much man for keeping up this project for so long!
Let's just imagine how doomed this world would be, if we had such cloning technologies, like that experimenting cell. It literally gives the absolute power.
Victim is confirmed as the gray stick figure, it showed here (4:42 and 7:46), instead of us just assuming that it is (even though it's pretty obvious), and AvM (Math) may be a part of this whole thing, shown here in the BG (9:26). I'm guessing that Math was used either before this episode, to test and see how capable TSC was at learning and adapting to new environments, or if it was afterwards in order to try and test TSC's strength.
I dont think that confirms that math is part of it--the background image very much looks to just be a graph or diagram as a background decoration (and maybe there's a chance that they reused some assets). But I do think that although math is probably completely separate, it DOES show that TSC is very good at learning and adapting, since its the same character
For clarification, for my theory about Math being a part of the AvA series isn't just the chart, there is a clear chamber that would hold something right next to the chart, and considering the entirety of Math's background is black, it makes me think that it's a simulation and it isn't real, and also the ending of Math (TSC escaping with the help of e^-1) might have been the end of the simulation, pulling TSC back into the facility. Also, it is definitely a reference at least because you can see the little dot on the circumference of the circle connected to the waves.
@@arfyness 1. for the angle it's at, it is horizontal, then vertical, then both at the same time in Math 2. for the shading, it's a chalkboard, no one would go out of their way to shade a drawing of a wave, and also it is implied that it is shaded by the fact there are 2 different waves
I mean, they'd probably use code names anyway. If they're working for what's basically Area 51 in AvA, it'd be wise to keep their real identities hush-hush.
@@fhtraveler The one DJ calls Agent Smith reminds me a lot of Johnny Rocketfingers (the lines are too clean and the shades are different though), and I feel like I've seen the other 3 in other things too, or at least very similar designs.
@@slasher3336 The one DJ calls "Poop" (for whatever stupid reason) looks like cave paintings and/or calligraphy in design to me. I call the one with the glasses "Winston" as a pun on Windows.
"If he woke up then, or if he could see everything happening" I imagine as if during the fighting scene in episode 1, in the middle of the battle, out of the blue, TCO just instantly get's teleported because during that pause time, he was... just unconcious, no memory of what else happened until he was unpaused.
remember the sky island episode from AVM? TSC was all alone back in Alan’s desktop, but he straight up had visions, he saw the danger everyone else was in. I suspect the next episode will have TSC sitting detected in his cell when he suddenly sees the danger the others are in, and will attempt to bust out. punching uselessly at the wall as the visions get worse and worse until- well I think you can guess what happens next.
@@ArtemisWasHereeeeee!?! yes!! this is my favorite take on what might happen next. completely forgot about that whole visions thing all we know about orange's powers is that they come out when his friends are in danger and he's otherwise incapacitated or trapped, so if that's what he thinks... someone's in big trouble :333
I DID see it, yes - it's pure genius and i went oooooohh! mentally i know scene transition to screen and back has been done plenty before in film and tv but not like this... here it was magic somehow
Im desperately waiting for the next episode, I feel like I say this for every Animation versus series, but this is hy far the most hype one you guys have made
Only a legend like Alan could turn a small little stick figure animation from 2006 into this giant series that we all know and love today. Its amazing just how much he can communicate through body language, and without any words spoken. This may as well be an actual TV show, or heck, and anime
my theory is that since files in adobe animate that you dont save actually get stored in a file temporarily before being deleted, thats how victim returned. he escaped the file and went to the stick figure world to plot his revenge against alan. Revenge.
The moment with the memories of the TCO, reminds me very much of a fan comic. Where there is also a Victim, he only shows the TSC the memories in which he gained green power. The same big screen with memories...
Yeah, that would be awesome I still don't believe that Alan would show us TDL only to just kill him immediately. I know, TSO defeated him, but only DEFEATED. We didn't witness TDL actually dying or disappearing. Introducing a seemingly important character and then instantly killing him is rarely a thing. So I believe that TDL will appear later)
@infinitesouls42 Yeah, I know. I just feel like it's kinda unreasonable to show TDL and his new powers and then just murder him. I hope he will show up later, but if there won't be any twist with TDL surviving that's totally fine)
Bro was created for the sole purpose of messing with him, had to survive the entire PC being against him twice, was enslaved, had to fight his best and only friend and lost, only to be hunted down and treated like this now
We actually did just get confirmation that this is indeed Victim. At 7:47, his file name is victim. Before it was just speculation on who this could be, albeit it was quite obvious it was victim, but now it’s confirmed.
I think the reason why the second coming can animate his drawings is because he has an extreme amount of imagination while the workers have lost their free will to think freely.
you know what, in a way i think that victim only has this much power as a result of the mercenaries, but i was just thinking about how he even coerced the mercenaries in the first place. but then i realized he didn't coerced them, they're most likely real friends that he's made, like red green yellow and blue being TSC's friends. it's kind of like the opposite where TSC himself is really strong while his friends are weak, but victim's friends are strong while he is very weak
While the 3D environments are great, I also enjoy the 2D animations! DJ is right, this fight choreography is top tier! And the wanted poster walk through scene was great!
The Fighting Stick Figures might not be able to be paused or anything because they’re from a game called Stick Figures Fighting and not Adobe Flash Animation.
I love how this man takes one of the oldest drawings, even cavemen used, and gives them emotion, amazing animation, direction despite not having faces, and more.
I'm still thinking that the names of the workers ressemble the era they are from. The tall messy one who uses spears and bows is resembling caveman paintings, the pixelated one is when computers and videogames where first made, the one with less animations and more standout poses is resemblign the early age of our modern computers (think of first ever windows and macs) and the last one is either modern or future, with his hotbar. Also: the "unknown" one is victim, you can see it on the computer when he gets duplicated.
i love how victims abilities were amped by the select tool since its like an exoskeleton that takes his limbs and uses the skeletons force to apply to what he's doing
So when they played The pedestrian they went on about how the 3d assets in that game should have costed a lot but at 16:33 Alan mentions they did the same thing in this video also, i love the video keep up the great work guys
@@Azrael_66666and if they fry his computer he’ll just get another one (though it would be quite the annoyance for him it still wouldn’t directly hurt him)
@@thetwilightpug8778 the worst thing that i could imagine happening realistically is something like what tsc did in AvA4, where they basically tried to get alan cancelled on facebook.
I vote we name this new arc: "Across the Stickverse". Because in Arc 5, that was our first introduction into the stick figure society, so that would be "Into the Stickverse" and this is us going further in and learning more about what happens and the hidden agenda going on.
Dude, imagine if the AvA universe is connected to the AvM universe. Like have Purple appear at some point with his/her elytra wings. Not to even mention King Orange's staff being brought to the real world.
No its not bcuz you can see at the ending of animation vs math TSC going into a white circle and there's this animation vs physics which at the beginning of is a WHITE CIRCLE with TSC in it
When they got TCO in the box, they decreased his PWR level (which I'm guessing means power) to the minimum. To me it feels like Victim is probably far less strong in raw force so he cheats to make up for that
Also, it’s cool how the mercenaries react to seeing Oranges power. Grey is surprised by it because he didint knew, Agent Smith doesn’t seem to care, Bathroom Sign is surprised, Henry Stickman is also a bit surprised and the creepy Poop just leans his headstone the side which feels unsettling
The lore of this on a different level, i wonder what will happen to green, blue and red because the other workers didn't take them or maybe they did get thrown in prison or what will happen to the second coming after they found out about his powers by accident
this was such a good episode but i hated when victim just tortured him for literally no reason i mean he could have put the mind scanner on him a while ago but NOOO he had to torture him
@@dawafflewhichisstuped I feel like he’s mad because of his creator, Alan, creating him with the sole purpose of being a victim. Now he wants revenge on him because of his flawed purpose, going out of his way to find mercenaries in the name of taking him down.
Maybe the memory scanner is not as effective if the target's resolve is still intact. It could be that beating him up (torturing) was for that purpose.
It's amazing how Alan turned a figure drawn in 2006 into the head of a secret corporation who, despite the passage of over 17 years, still uses the same items as then...
Wait rlly??
OH IT MAKES SENSE NOW
@@mercyrlgaming5378yep, here’s proof at 7:46 that it is indeed victim
edited to push back timestamp
Victims revenge arc be crazy
Oh my god i didn't realize that...
I love how they found a good way to make TSC remember his abilities, or at least find out that he has abilities!
The grey who attack the choosen one the name is - victim. Was shown in the frist ava.
@@sreyansasmal3525 wrong comment bro
@@honghi2412no it's true
@@figure162yea but it’s not related to this comment
@@sreyansasmal3525 not to be rude, but get better spelling.
It's a small moment, but I like how at 11:23 TSC looks at the pen like he's realizing the moral implications of creating life. Then, the next time we see him, he's being taken back to his cell, suggesting he refused to draw anymore after that.
Or the workers decided he was too dangerous with what he could create.
He could've drawn more entity to help him escape but, it's the plot I guess
@@kalapishhI mean they did put the Chosen One in a literal time-lock so I don't think The Second Coming was feeling too hopeful
@@123890antoniojlike if he DID manage to break the blue cell, he would just get sent back to his og cell
to be honest, I saw that scene as TSC debating what he could do with that power. he realized that, with just that one eel, he was able to bring the facility's power down, implying breaking down the barrier he is in, which is why they quickly dragged him out of the room
5:13 "I'm you, but less important" He doesn't know that it's victim, but he described him perfectly
that's such a raw line but it still has comedic effect i was laughing about that for the next 10 seconds
Pretty sure he knows it's Victim, DJ does help make Some of the Assets!
what DJ doesn't realize is that Victim is after HIM, cuz AvA 1 is DJ vs Victim, everything after that is Alan becker, lore wise
@@monst3r_child832Is that true? Where is that said?
@@Data-Expungeded after looking through every reaction video and also checking the AvA wiki it appears that i made an error, i've been under the assumption that Programmer021 (which i coulda sworn somewhere they make reference to that being DJ but i can't find it) created victim, which is why noogai3 (who we know is Alan) messages him during AvA 2 when he's fighting the chosen one, after all, he is asking programmer how to defeat the chosen one, which would imply he doesn't know about closing the window and not saving (which is how victim was defeated in AvA 1) it looked like programmer was about to tell noogai about that, also the name noogai made me always think that in AvA 2 we're watching a "new guy" a new animator, different from the animator in AvA 1 does that make sense?
i like how they basically confirmed this is victim and not a new character
not just that it literally says it, he also used some of the tricks that were in the first ava
i like the attention to detail alot
but im really curious how he survived being deleted
and they told us in 7:47 (the symbol is called victim
@@minaplayz-cn5iethat could be true, but how so? All clones were deleted as seen on the video
@@clericwhomakes well AVA 5 did show that certain old scenes may be changed somewhat (in that video Chosen One and Dark Lord are shown running and escaping the explosion where in the original the explosion was instant) so its entirely possible one of the clones just slipped off screen at some point.
i heard that files in adobe animation can be recovered even if you clicked "don't save", they must remain for some time in memory. And if tco and tdl could survive the destruction of the motherboard(their files must have been lost), so could victim. They seem be able to coexist even without their files saved anywhere
Cant we just wait until they reveal how?
the "fight" (more like beatup) scene between victim and TCO is so, so dark. i was completely caught off guard by just how much of it was just senseless violence. it says a lot that TCO tried to freeze himself (since from what i can tell it looked intentional). this is honestly one of the most succinct ways i've seen a villain introduced to an animated series. just absolutely sadistic and ruthless. they didn't have to do any of that!
Literally, I had to pause and just recollect myself cause it frickin' TERRIFIED me like whattt!! This has GOT to be the darkest moment in AvA
7:21 when victim started whipping TCO my heart literally froze
@@aafreenchoudhury9501the whipping was crazy bro 😭
@@genericnamegoeshere i did NOT know what victim was capable of clearly 😭
TCO had much worse time in Alan's pc than Victim
for victim the torture was short lived
and he seems to be purposefully using a leash... to trigger TCO, to remind him of his trauma... ever more painful
It’s amazing how Alan is able to turn basic computer commands (mainly using selection tool) into weapons of mass destruction
If Victim can't destroy Alan directly, he'll do so by overblowing his animation budget. It was planned all along.
best comment LMAO
it all makes sense now
ok that's brilliant
the most underrated comment, yeah victim cant get to alan irl he will just keep on buying pcs but what he can do is make alan go broke
victim was black on the first animator vs animation but he turned grey now
Bro... I was shocked when they just revealed TSC's powers right in front of TSC himself by accident. Holy moly.
They were like whoops
yea they messed up for SURE!
the thing is, TSC doesnt remember the fight, and in the fight, he was going bc of an "impulse", that he got beaten up
now, just imagine what he can do if he focuses and doesnt loose conciousnes like last time
(i have a feeling it will be the final fight: TSC, and the cursor [Alan Becker], controled by Victim)
Bro the realization he gets when he finds out the power he holds
TSC: Wait.... I HAVE POWERS?!
I find it interesting how The Box is where Victim, as Alan puts it, is "...the only place he can have the upper hand..." (5:54) considering that he is allowing himself to be subjected to the same animation editing tools Alan used on Victim back in Animator vs. Animation I.
Victim is strong when using the tools he was tortured with, which may end up backfiring on him...
Correction: He’s strong when using those tools AND when his strength and speed are buffed, he has clones, and his enemy has their powers nullified, inverted, or decreased.
god he’s so sad
Hot take: Victim is a wimp who has the personality of a little kid
@@lailoutherand where did the sudden victim hate come from? obviously he would use external tools to help himself win against TCO, his name is literally victim, he was made to be weak. And it's not like TCO is fully innocent, too
@@mrult28Older comment, Rightful meaning 😭
Like srsly tho... I just feel bad for him
Leave it to Green to be able to draw somewhat accurately while running
Dude can do anything while running, like sing.
@@timwoods2852it’s not hard to sing while running????
@@GLEPPPPP Green was _sprinting_ *up* a mountainside!
And without a clipboard or something like that, the papers standing on its own
@@timwoods2852Well purple literally was able to sing every single note to draw what his backstory was so
Just realized that the very end (15:50) isn't just showing how The Victim hates Alan,(for whatever reason) but it's a reference to Alan's channel's Pfp.
Ha, good catch!
wdym for some reason? he was almost immediately killed for no reason. The first thing Alan ever did was drop a weight to crush him, and then immeadly made a gun to shoot him. idk about you but i think that's a reason
@@tinnguyenanimations522hate a guy who tried to delete you? Yea im fighting
so basically in this episode we see that victim is just a normal person cause to fight TCO he needed his agents to control his fighting and give him abilities
Yeah he never did have powers only knows how to use the surrounding to strengthen him
I think he is jealous because of every other Alan Becker's stickman has powers and he is not, so he wanted to beat up TCO by deleting his powers
@@NecyarUnátyvictim: you took everything from me
TCO:i dont even know who you are
Victim:but Alan knows
@@NecyarUnátyno I think it's cause he just was ruthlessly beaten up with no chance to fight back,
@@AAHumann_ Well, It's clear that he wants to kill Alan, because victim was deleted when he was winning, but for that he needs to get as powerful as other stickmans, he was watching the TCO fight and win, that's why he wanted to defeat him by himself to prove that he is stronger
I'm actually surprised of allan saying how long the animation took to make and yet I wasn't expecting a new AVA episode this soon. Like 6 MONTHS?! WE HAD TO WAIT YEARS BETWEEN AVA 4 AND 5!!!!!! I'm deeply happy I could wait years just to see another chapter of this masterpiece
It's because he planned to finish avm(animator vs minecraft)first,now that it's finished he is gonna focus more on ava
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At 11:00 the eel pulses with the same green energy as The Second Coming from AvA IV when he defeated The Dark Lord. I think the green energy may be a representation of animation itself (or maybe some sort of "creative" force?) because it's what makes TSC's drawings come to life, and also allowed TSC to heal himself and also resurrect (or "reanimate") his friends. It seems like TSC is the only one with this force within him because he's the only stick figure we've seen animate so far. Really excited to see if we discover what this green energy really is.
Probably some kind of life force, if you know what I mean. Every other character has massive, destructive powers, there had to be someone whose powers could balance it all out.
With some close inspection, it appears the green energy is coming from TSC, or at least, the Eel is sending some electricity, but TSC blocks it? Or it's almost like an extension of TSC so they share a similar energy of sorts
Could very well be analyzing it too much though, lol
It’s not green though? It’s yellow.
@@jackofclubs6229 Doesn't matter what color it is probably.
@@jackofclubs6229 Most is yellow, but if you look closely enough some of them appear green
So Agent Smith lowered TCOs power level and STILL had to individually lower each of his attacks because he was too op. Also I like the fact that TCO is very powerful, but not exactly the smartest, though not dumb either. He never needed to be too resourceful to win
Not only that the animator stickmen even had to make Victim move like 10x faster to be a match to a nerfed TCO.
@@DawnAfternoonhis strength was reduced down to 10, and victim's was multiplied by 10. For TCO to over 100x faster and stronger... ...Well, we're already aware of how TSC outclassed him when his powers were awakened. If we want to take this further, we could estimate his abilities were also dropped down to a tenth each, making an individual ability 1000x stronger than Victim... And yet, Victim is the major villain.
Well tco learned that if he shoots fire in front of him, it would go backwards, used this to his advantage, and almost got victim
@@hadesciphernius5244And being more overpowered when conscious as in the first TSC he wasn't conscious so imagine his power with the pencil the facility would get destroyed
it only works in The Box
I feel like this goes to show how powerful the dark lord, the chosen one, and second coming are that victim and the mercenaries seem to be forced to steal/recover art tools to stand a chance at fighting them.
I am curious to find out victim’s plan to fight animator because fighting the sticks are one thing, however fighting the animator seems like a challenge to large to try to accomplish.
Obviously they will probably force yellow to summon the animator but I have a feeling that the limiter box will be too weak to fight the animator.
Edit: I also like how conveniently that Chosen One stops the memory viewer so that they can’t see him enter and visit the second coming at Alan’s PC and instead we go back further to the fight between second coming and the dark lord.
Alan not wanting to animate a 2d world from the perspective of one of the characters in it
@@DetectiveWraith I didnt think of that- but that begs the question... what would it look like?
didn't catch that when he was disrupting the video feed.
The signal lost might been more like that, Alan's PC and that stickman world have a barrier that the tec they have cannot pass yet, so it dosen't show that part
Seriously, TCO beat "tribal stickman, pixel stickman, & desktop stickman" in one go.
The Hierarchy is TSC > TDL > TCO
So if TCO is able to beat 3 of the 5 antagonists already, it doesn't take too long to realize that it wouldn't be hard for the good side to win. Especially since victim is PATHETIC, and the agent stickman could get beat by either TDL or TSC.
Alan: "his brain was paused too"
the fandom: "WRITE THAT DOWN"
YEP!
It would mean for him it was like: let's fly towards the glasses guy, hey why am I in a box?
@@iiDTC
"I'm done playing with you, asshole!"
"wait, what the actual fu-"
@@thesonar what did you reference there?
Can we talk about how they nearly zeroed TCO’s powers and buffed Victim to the ceiling and yet TCO still managed to hold his ground? This man is a fucking god
You said a swear, but I f*cking agree.
his name isn’t the chosen one without a reason 🤷♂️
He's also smart, shown by him adapting in the middle of the fight and using his propulsion flames offensively because his regular attacks have been nullified or inverted.
you couldve said "his names the chosen one for a reason" and it wouldve been fine bruh
ELEMENTAL GOD
One thing i noticed is that when the employee drew with the pen tool his arm was kinda stick-like but when TSC draws his arm was like smooth and kinda ragdoll-ish
homage to older stick figure animations
@@LineOfThy also TSC is TSC and everyone else is basic compared to him
I love that they only wanted Yellow. He’s the smart one. If this was D&D, Yellow is the one with 20 Int.
red has 1 for sleeping in the nether
To be fair, they all have their smart moments. Green was able to figure out how to escape King Orange's prison with Reuben
Isn’t it because they saw only yellow?
@@kulila8564 Because Yellow was the one who used his coding skills to summon The Cursor.
@@nocturnalworker3992 That was a bit more Wisdom. And Green’s the type of guy to have 16’s across the board.
To be honest a voiceover of Alan Becker's animations... Feels like it should be voiced by DJ professionally because he does it so well.
personally i do prefer the animations without the voices but if there WERE to be an official voiceover i agree too that dj should be the one doing it
i been thinkin abt this too
💯
DJ analyzing the fight scene and I'm just yelling "Stop beating up your little brother! Leave the middle child alone already!"
Love this so much, can't wait to see where this is going.
Oh wait that's right-
Little brother!!!!?
Technically if you think about it victim is the older (brother) because Alan created him first and then tco,tdl and tsc is the youngest one
You can call them a family lol
HAHA thats so real
victim is such a scary villain in this episode.
He might not plan to destroy the world like TDL (yet) but he is way more menacing. He's out for cursor blood.
How exactly does he plan to kill Alan tho ? We saw when the cursor was destroyed against TDL, the window just crashed. And the worst the victim could do to Alan would be to wreck his computer anyways...
Why do that grey stickmin holding a grudge on alan
@@teamok1025 it's the victim. The first ever Animator vs Animation Alan ever did was about him, before The Chosen One
@@teamok1025the Grey stickmin is victim, from the Very First AvA, everyone thought he got deleted at the end of the episode when ava closed Adobe without saving but clearly this is not the case
@@mobgabriel1767 Im alredy aware of the grey stickmin being victim tbh.
“Don’t treat the mercenaries as what DJ nicknamed”
Fandom: NAH NAH NAH NAH EVERYDAY
According to the fandom wiki (so take with a grain of salt) one of the mercenaries has a confirmed identity corresponding to an old gif from '03
And which mercenary is that? "Hunter"?@@rat1223
@@celtc7875 Ballista (pixel dude). Creator of the character said that's his name
@@NovaMations388 Oh ok I’ve been calling him flipnote this whole time lol
Daammnnn I remember Victim now from the very first animation. He's... Really going places, wow.
Also the fact that he's powerless compared to all your creations afterwards, Alan. I love how you portrayed that.
_Also, dammit, of course you went all out and it involved extra one-time assets. Even I don't have the patience for animating all that and I'd love to put down that much detail too._
Ya know what, I appreciate this flex, showing the world what true animation is and true passion looks like, all along with the rest of the animators of the indie space. Thanks so much man for keeping up this project for so long!
Let's just imagine how doomed this world would be, if we had such cloning technologies, like that experimenting cell. It literally gives the absolute power.
frrr
man i would like that
Fr!
fr
@@RobbeusesUA-camI'd prefer TDL's technology.
Victim is confirmed as the gray stick figure, it showed here (4:42 and 7:46), instead of us just assuming that it is (even though it's pretty obvious), and AvM (Math) may be a part of this whole thing, shown here in the BG (9:26). I'm guessing that Math was used either before this episode, to test and see how capable TSC was at learning and adapting to new environments, or if it was afterwards in order to try and test TSC's strength.
I dont think that confirms that math is part of it--the background image very much looks to just be a graph or diagram as a background decoration (and maybe there's a chance that they reused some assets). But I do think that although math is probably completely separate, it DOES show that TSC is very good at learning and adapting, since its the same character
closest i can find is 7:12 in AvM
I think if it was meant to be a reference, it would have been closer... at least vertical and shaded like in AvM
For clarification, for my theory about Math being a part of the AvA series isn't just the chart, there is a clear chamber that would hold something right next to the chart, and considering the entirety of Math's background is black, it makes me think that it's a simulation and it isn't real, and also the ending of Math (TSC escaping with the help of e^-1) might have been the end of the simulation, pulling TSC back into the facility. Also, it is definitely a reference at least because you can see the little dot on the circumference of the circle connected to the waves.
@@arfyness
1. for the angle it's at, it is horizontal, then vertical, then both at the same time in Math
2. for the shading, it's a chalkboard, no one would go out of their way to shade a drawing of a wave, and also it is implied that it is shaded by the fact there are 2 different waves
*Alan casually having a mini seizure when DJ says the mercenaries’ names*
""""""James""""""
I mean, they'd probably use code names anyway. If they're working for what's basically Area 51 in AvA, it'd be wise to keep their real identities hush-hush.
@@fhtraveler The one DJ calls Agent Smith reminds me a lot of Johnny Rocketfingers (the lines are too clean and the shades are different though), and I feel like I've seen the other 3 in other things too, or at least very similar designs.
@@slasher3336 The one DJ calls "Poop" (for whatever stupid reason) looks like cave paintings and/or calligraphy in design to me. I call the one with the glasses "Winston" as a pun on Windows.
@@slasher3336
I think the glasses guy looks a lot like CGP Grey, which is kinda funny
"If he woke up then, or if he could see everything happening"
I imagine as if during the fighting scene in episode 1, in the middle of the battle, out of the blue, TCO just instantly get's teleported because during that pause time, he was... just unconcious, no memory of what else happened until he was unpaused.
DJ makes every serious moment funny.
True
And I Like That 😂
@@haiderraad468 everyone like that fr💀
If tsc saw this 15:22 that entire base would already have been evaporated from existence
Lmao
fr tho
remember the sky island episode from AVM? TSC was all alone back in Alan’s desktop, but he straight up had visions, he saw the danger everyone else was in.
I suspect the next episode will have TSC sitting detected in his cell when he suddenly sees the danger the others are in, and will attempt to bust out. punching uselessly at the wall as the visions get worse and worse until-
well I think you can guess what happens next.
oh yheaa true
@@ArtemisWasHereeeeee!?! yes!! this is my favorite take on what might happen next. completely forgot about that whole visions thing
all we know about orange's powers is that they come out when his friends are in danger and he's otherwise incapacitated or trapped, so if that's what he thinks...
someone's in big trouble :333
That moment when Alan is just eating his cereal bowl and Victim + mercenaries appears on his computer will be good.
“I got rid of you 18 years ago! How are you back!?”
11:06 i spotted the detail that when the drawing hit TSC the electricity was green
13:54 I was waiting soooo long for that moment
Damn how did u get that lol
@@nearo007I don't know either
so he always has his powers, not just when it’s time
12:25 meanwhile alan in the computer version: where are they tf i need help w this animation
DJ's voice acting on Victim during the interrogation and the ending is perfect, exactly how I expected Victim- I mean unknown to sound
It's confirmed it's victim, while "agent smith" is cloning him, one of those stuff are called "victim"
Yeah I saw it too, Alan probably made him lighter in shade to differentiate between him and TCO
15:10 Can we hm just admit this cinematic transition not all of noticed for the first time?
I noticed it and I thought it was so sick
@@Deadpool-ri3rq cool. I noticed it only after watching DJ react
I DID see it, yes - it's pure genius and i went oooooohh!
mentally i know scene transition to screen and back has been done plenty before in film and tv but not like this... here it was magic somehow
How did DJ voice so well at 15:51.
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Im desperately waiting for the next episode, I feel like I say this for every Animation versus series, but this is hy far the most hype one you guys have made
Only a legend like Alan could turn a small little stick figure animation from 2006 into this giant series that we all know and love today. Its amazing just how much he can communicate through body language, and without any words spoken. This may as well be an actual TV show, or heck, and anime
do NOT call this anime
my theory is that since files in adobe animate that you dont save actually get stored in a file temporarily before being deleted, thats how victim returned. he escaped the file and went to the stick figure world to plot his revenge against alan. Revenge.
How has this not blown up? Dude speaking facts
I wear when TSC saw the screen with how they did all that crazy stuff, and how they just kinda looked at their hands like “I did that?”
Those boxes with the cursor technology seem like a representation of Virtual Machines. A real concept in computer science.
9:46 HEY HE’S TRYING HIS BEST OKAY?
yes justice for random grey guy!!
also the way he's like "tada" after he draws- xD
YEAH JUSTICE FOR RANDOM GREY GUY
Yea
@@GoldChipz I’m calling him Painter, and he’s from Austria
@@horacechan5210legend says he took up politics after he failed art school
I love how Alan has content of almost every type and still makes it totally authentic and original. Thank you Alan and his team for such good content.
Who came here after the premiere to see THEIR reactions?
(Ps:Ioved this btw. Hope he has a good time animating the next one)
Me
Me
The moment with the memories of the TCO, reminds me very much of a fan comic. Where there is also a Victim, he only shows the TSC the memories in which he gained green power. The same big screen with memories...
_who created that comic and how did they predict that_
Alan has collected almost all the empty-heads, all that remains is to find Dark and the whole team will be assembled.
Yeah, that would be awesome
I still don't believe that Alan would show us TDL only to just kill him immediately. I know, TSO defeated him, but only DEFEATED. We didn't witness TDL actually dying or disappearing. Introducing a seemingly important character and then instantly killing him is rarely a thing. So I believe that TDL will appear later)
well, tdl's also dead so good luck with that
may be he will be team with victim bec both wants to destroy TCO and and AB
@infinitesouls42 Yeah, I know.
I just feel like it's kinda unreasonable to show TDL and his new powers and then just murder him. I hope he will show up later, but if there won't be any twist with TDL surviving that's totally fine)
@@sombi18A full power blast that strong wouldve definitely killed him
I just realized, TSC has had a ever-so-slight green glow to him ever since AvA ep. 4
I feel so bad for the The Chosen One
Bro was created for the sole purpose of messing with him, had to survive the entire PC being against him twice, was enslaved, had to fight his best and only friend and lost, only to be hunted down and treated like this now
We can agree on one thing
Alan is the a-hole
Ikr. TCO deserves more than this v_v
I feel bad for all of them, they were created for no reason, just for entertainment.
SAME I LOVE HIM
Anyone else notice that the weapons are the same as the ones used in ava1?
Yup i love that callback
Well, yeah. It's weapons Victim is familiar with.
Ngl i actually did but two of them had a sword and a hammer but they didn't have them in the ava1
We actually did just get confirmation that this is indeed Victim. At 7:47, his file name is victim. Before it was just speculation on who this could be, albeit it was quite obvious it was victim, but now it’s confirmed.
I think the reason why the second coming can animate his drawings is because he has an extreme amount of imagination while the workers have lost their free will to think freely.
They did lost their colors afterall
Or it could be that The Second Coming was a natural born animator, just like Alan Becker!
Dont forget tsc taught alan to animate
Justice for random Austrian grey guy
15:31 is absolutely BRUTAL
He SMACKED Blue with a 5 metre pole into a friking truck thats gotta hurt 🤕
The fact Blue didn’t even punch someone, yet he probably got the most brutal attack.
i love how the agents names even aren’t officially canon yet we still call the agent
“agent smith” 💀👍
it was just too fitting-
13:55 “wait, am I…..HIM?”
you know what, in a way i think that victim only has this much power as a result of the mercenaries, but i was just thinking about how he even coerced the mercenaries in the first place. but then i realized he didn't coerced them, they're most likely real friends that he's made, like red green yellow and blue being TSC's friends. it's kind of like the opposite where TSC himself is really strong while his friends are weak, but victim's friends are strong while he is very weak
DJ: that's cheating
Victim: yeah i know...
Bet bro enjoyed that
@@1rainnyyyywatchu mean by that?
While the 3D environments are great, I also enjoy the 2D animations!
DJ is right, this fight choreography is top tier! And the wanted poster walk through scene was great!
The Fighting Stick Figures might not be able to be paused or anything because they’re from a game called Stick Figures Fighting and not Adobe Flash Animation.
I love how this man takes one of the oldest drawings, even cavemen used, and gives them emotion, amazing animation, direction despite not having faces, and more.
I'm still thinking that the names of the workers ressemble the era they are from. The tall messy one who uses spears and bows is resembling caveman paintings, the pixelated one is when computers and videogames where first made, the one with less animations and more standout poses is resemblign the early age of our modern computers (think of first ever windows and macs) and the last one is either modern or future, with his hotbar.
Also: the "unknown" one is victim, you can see it on the computer when he gets duplicated.
If you still dont know. The pixelated one is called Ballista, he is from an old animation called "Stickman vs Doors".
@@-victim.The names arent canon
@@IDSMILEDit's actually the pixel guy's name according to the creator of the character
i love how victims abilities were amped by the select tool since its like an exoskeleton that takes his limbs and uses the skeletons force to apply to what he's doing
8 months of finger pain to go for episode 3 😁
7:25 Since TCO doesn't have a blue line, does that mean he'll eventually realise he has "no boundaries"?
he has no blue line because he aint a tool in adobe....
14:12
YOU DIDNT TELL ME HE COULD DO THAT😂😂😂
7:59 "Oh geez."
"OGs indeed."
aren't these the exact weapons the victim and his clones drew/made in "animation vs animator 1" the original, even the rope to!
15:42
also these are the same "frames" things from the original
GOD DAMN IT THE NEW EP IS A MASTERPIECE
EVERY EP IS A MASTERPIECE
So when they played The pedestrian they went on about how the 3d assets in that game should have costed a lot but at 16:33 Alan mentions they did the same thing in this video
also, i love the video keep up the great work guys
I'm excited to see how they'll convince (force) Yellow to code Alan's cursor in their world
my question is what do they plan to do if/when they do? if his cursor gets destroyed alan can just make another one
@@Azrael_66666and if they fry his computer he’ll just get another one (though it would be quite the annoyance for him it still wouldn’t directly hurt him)
@@thetwilightpug8778 the worst thing that i could imagine happening realistically is something like what tsc did in AvA4, where they basically tried to get alan cancelled on facebook.
@@Azrael_66666 haha that’s true
I vote we name this new arc: "Across the Stickverse".
Because in Arc 5, that was our first introduction into the stick figure society, so that would be "Into the Stickverse" and this is us going further in and learning more about what happens and the hidden agenda going on.
I never knew this gray stick figure named "victim" existed, and now I know this series is older than me and this series is like 17 years old
yea this series has been goin on for a WHILE lol
i love that tsc saw his powers and thank you for chatting earlier in live haha ✌️
15:26 “Big Stick Powers”.
Dude, imagine if the AvA universe is connected to the AvM universe. Like have Purple appear at some point with his/her elytra wings. Not to even mention King Orange's staff being brought to the real world.
They are connected
Maybe as cameos
Cherry Blossoms - An Actual Short
They are connected
The reason why they arent appaered is because of copyright
Even if they appaered, they probably use different equipment
@@FadhilIMP5530_Real copyright? what are you talking about?
It's Really Cool to see Different Stick Figures in another World, Keep Up The Work! ❤
"The whole gang is here: Bathroom sign, Poop, Henry Stickman, Agent Smith, and the Unknown (AKA Victim)"-DJ
I just realized the detail of the electric eel touching the Second Coming made green sparks.
Maybe he still has his powers inside.
TSC Going beast mode after he knows how to use his true powers
I rly want to see that soon
GATORADE POWERS OULL UP🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
3:25 sorry Alan, its cannon now. TSC had a very strange math related dream and you cant do anything about it. :D
No its not bcuz you can see at the ending of animation vs math TSC going into a white circle and there's this animation vs physics which at the beginning of is a WHITE CIRCLE with TSC in it
7:47 I love how the symbols are all graphic instead of movie clip. Just a small detail in a 16 minute work of art.
i kept saying "TCO really getting the TDL treatment" 😭
7:40
TCO: **freezes self**
Victim: So cool, heh. Back in my day **gets duplicates**
This is CRAZY
12:17 Firewall actually. If not then an antivirus.
These reactions are always the best, you get the animation and funny commentary
I love how when victim gets cloned DJ says "oh jeez" and Alan's just like "OGs indeed 😏😏😏"
sorry let me rephrase this:
*THE OLD MAN IS CHEATING!!*
I can almost imagine tco calling victim an old man
Lol 😂
Lmao Victim is a literal weakling and needed boosting just to be overpower TCO for a moment
After that, TCO still managed to almost beat Victim
When they got TCO in the box, they decreased his PWR level (which I'm guessing means power) to the minimum. To me it feels like Victim is probably far less strong in raw force so he cheats to make up for that
@@ConvenientLampit’s not cheating, it’s called using your resources. Batman type beat.
Keep it up I really really want to see more!!!!!!
Yooo 19 second
Waht???? U can donate in comments?????
I LOVE IT SO MUCH I think Orange will know how to use his powers
Also, it’s cool how the mercenaries react to seeing Oranges power. Grey is surprised by it because he didint knew, Agent Smith doesn’t seem to care, Bathroom Sign is surprised, Henry Stickman is also a bit surprised and the creepy Poop just leans his headstone the side which feels unsettling
The lore of this on a different level, i wonder what will happen to green, blue and red because the other workers didn't take them or maybe they did get thrown in prison or what will happen to the second coming after they found out about his powers by accident
4:32 Outside of DJs amazing reactions this is why People analyse these videos so much lol
this was such a good episode
but i hated when victim just tortured him for literally no reason
i mean he could have put the mind scanner on him a while ago but NOOO he had to torture him
He has repprest anger
@@dawafflewhichisstuped
I feel like he’s mad because of his creator, Alan, creating him with the sole purpose of being a victim. Now he wants revenge on him because of his flawed purpose, going out of his way to find mercenaries in the name of taking him down.
Bro is petty as hell
Either that or hes beating him for basically destroying websites
Maybe the memory scanner is not as effective if the target's resolve is still intact. It could be that beating him up (torturing) was for that purpose.
@@CosmicCrimson you're definitely right but i made that comment as a joke
3:00 "fans" when they want the next AvA out.
That is such a good joke!
8:24, did anyone notice that Alan's sound team used the Iron Man sound effect. Like when Iron Man gets hit
The anvil also sounds when the copy sticks the sword against the wall, idk nice details xF
@@pink_player06 yeah
Every episode gets better! can’t wait for the next one
Hi AvG crew
JUST CAME FROM THE PREMERE
@@herbetstolethetagsame bro
A little after
@@Red-t23750 seconds lol
@Plighq_Annnnnnd cut!
I gotta say, Despite DJ's names for the merc's not being canon, his name for this move at 8:35 is my head canon, and I will not take any alternatives.
he did not say that