Yea..though I have to say victim isn’t the only victim, tco and tdl are too. Tco was like victim 2.0, but stronger I suppose, and tdl…his loyalty and his trust was betrayed by Alan, it made him feel useless yk what I mean, so I guess it’s understandable why tdl wanted to justice against Alan and why he agreed with chosen or told chosen to start rampaging other websites from his trust being misused by Alan..still feel pretty bad for Mitsi and vic, I think tsc might be able to bring mitsi back becoz their particles looks rather similar
@Shield-Scope no I’m not saying you haven’t, read it again I’m saying if you watch them in a different order (chronological order) you will have a different understanding of it cause this one ends just before the first one
I fully respect the fact that Alan goes through with the narrative that he was a villain/abuser to sentient/sapient stickmen for "a long time" in total even after redeeming himself. It can be very easy to portray yourself as a benevolent figure in your own story, but Alan retroactively added more crimes on his list for the sake of the story and the explanations. Not only that, but the effort to create natural consequences and motivations for the actions of Alan, Victim, TCO, and TDL in a non-verbal story is impressive as ever.
@@Lumberjack_king well i mean he never WANTED to, remember The Chosen One was convinced this was his purpose. all he'd ever known was ALSO being tortured and when he broke free with The Dark Lord they worked together. Dark Lord's purpose was one thing solely: to DESTROY. The Chosen One didn't HAVE a goal, so he just helped The Dark Lord fufill HIS GOAL... only for a while though because when The Dark Lord destroying the main internet and when he decided to go for the whole world, that's when Chosen One realizes this IS NOT his goal and snaps
It also adds a *LOT* of moral gray areas to the story; no one (except for Dark, and even *he's* still got the tiniest chance of redemption if he's still alive) is doing what they're doing for no reason, it's because they were hurt by a very, *very* long chain reaction of the consequences of everyone's actions, and it's the people who are trying to break out of that cycle instead of remaining in it that separates the protagonists from the antagonists.
For a moment during the first scenes, I got so immersed that I went "Why would any sane animator or creator DO that, are they frickin sadistic, Jesus Christ" . . . And then I immediately remembered the lore I give to dozens of my own OCs and went "Ehh yep _we're_ pretty sadistic our hands are not clean" I relate with Alan's smug smile during this reaction. It's only painful when bad things happen to someone _else's_ OCs.
@nathanlindo854 mine call the VioletWitch because I'm a village girl with Asperger.... won't you be call as a witch when you talk and aware like Abed Nadir from Community?...
Technically he didn’t fridge her as she has personality and her death seems to have a large and poignant effect on the narrative. Fridging is when a character just dies for quick emotional hit for another character and then is just completely forgotten about.
@@RRW2.05 By my understanding, fridging doesn't require the dead character to not have personality, or to be forgotten about; the important part is that the character is killed solely to cause another character pain, rather than for any reason related to the dead character themself. In that regard, Mitsi does indeed get fridged here; in fact, she seems solely to exist for the sake of his emotional arc, first to befriend and heal him, then to die and motivate him.
@LiutenantAlaki I will give you that, but I will object with the fact her death plays a large part in the narrative. All character death is meant to play a purpose, that’s how writing is sometimes. A Fridged death is one that is kinda pointless and doesn’t have much effect on the narrative while a well written one has an impact which is long lasting and pays respect to the character that was killed off. I know I’m being technical but can’t really help it. Fridging is usually used to refer to character deaths which are poorly done (think of the comic book girlfriends who appear, die, and then are never mentioned again) and is mainly used to call out bad writing to my knowledge. Mitsi’s death doesn’t seem to have those hallmarks so as a writer I don’t consider her death Fridging, but I guess that is just my opinion.
Tbh, is it that bad to fridge characters, at least in this case? It's not like Alan presented her as a currently alive character that would make you wonder what will happen with them, only to kill them off for cheap emotional stakes. Mitsy has been dead from the very beginning, and it's her death what jumpstarts the plot. Besides, Mitsy was also important to make us further empathize with Victim, since she was an important part of him redoing his life. Otherwise what would be the alternative? Just make her a non-character, a shade that's on the background, and just tell us that Victim had a loved one that died without further elaborating?
i more love the fac that hes literally the only ytber i know who creates animations *and* react video *to his own animations* . this is like making a movie, watching your own movie and give it a A+ rating because it was that good-level.
The fact that most of the villains were victims of young Alan. The Chosen one: a stickman which was tortured like victim but he broke out, later on he joined the good side after realising TDL was the villain. The Dark Lord: a stickman made to terminate TCO but broke out with TCO to make chaos around the websites, later on getting killed by TSC. Victim: tortured for years, escaped and made a new world, once the newgrounds website got attacked he saw the bad side of TCO which made him hate Alan more once he realised TCO and Alan worked together Purple: since we saw his family witness the Accident of Newgrounds, maybe his dad wanted for Purple to become stronger, which led to his trauma and past abuse make him another broken villain like TCO, and later on joining the good side. Also another theory about TSC powers. Power of creation: since we saw green particles creating the new stickman, just like how we saw him reviving back his friends which got deleted by TDL, maybe if he figured out how to use his powers he could ressurect back Mitsi after Victim would force him to do so after he saw the green particles around TSC from the memory card of TCO.
Im not sure if Victim will connect dots of color and TSC but if he watches rest of memory he will sure try his hand. I personnaly think TSC also need data cuz he went out of his way to go to computer but im not sure.
Watching AVM/AVA is always a 2 step process. 1. Watch it regularly 2. Watch AVG watch it and if you want, you can add another step in between them. Which is: cry.
@@sheepriderkiller1181 kinda crazy how alan is genuinely an overarching villian and a hero at the same time. Like nearly all of the villians in ava were alans making, he only straightened up when orange was seen as useful
Isn’t it surprising to see someone as crude as Tankman be so helpful, like I don’t know him that well but I know he usually dicks around and curses, which I know isn’t the AVA way but still.
@danielc2894 In 2011, Newgrounds was severely broken and unusable because of Adobe Flash Player being discontinued, and I guess TDL's rampage was supposed to be the metaphor for that. Now Newgrounds uses an Adobe Flash emulator called "Ruffle".
18:30 I'm so suprised that DJ doesn't realize that the person that was controling the minecraft simulaton in animation vs minecraft of king orange backstory that he was also controling the memory machine now.
@@I-like-cowsKing’s backstory is confirmed to take place after 2018 (Purple’s arc in AvM season 1 & AvLoL), whereas Misti’s death was in 2011, so yea your correct
I just realized that this implies that when TSC uses his powers, he doesn't actually kill anything, just sends them somewhere else. EDIT: To be clear, I was thinking about the viro-bots. TDL got nuked.
in the area where the last few episodes of AvA took place, if a stick figure that has connections to newgrounds gets killed there, they will then reform in newgrounds. if you're from newgrounds and you get killed there, you're dead. at least, I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
12:14 DJ: Wow, he went from being the worst existence in the world to, like, the best. Alan: Mhm. "Mhm". As if he doesn't know what he turned Victim's life into later.
i already know that mitsi gonna die in around 10min because: first: we havent seen her in the recent episode second: i remebered a sence where TCO and TDL kill ALMOST EVERYONE on newground third: mitsi was made in newground fourth: that'll make a lot of sense for the reason why victim hate TCO fith: im just guessing and somehow its right lol
we knew before clicking on the thumbnail because this is a "king" episode which requires a touchy sequence of a loved one before they die and the antagonist goes insane no fight sequence this time around though - oops
King orange's backstory- the world took my aon from me so im going to punish everyone Victim's backstory- i found out that the murderer of all of my family and friends AND the creture who tortured me for months endlessly teamed up, and now for my and everyone else's sake im trying to stop them both. The world made king orange the villian. The world is the villian that victim tries to stop.
Great, now I headcanon Dark Lord as super goofy and calm sounding, only for him to shift into a pure evil rage voice at times. Kind of like what I do for Flowey
Hear me out; what if TSC can bring back Mitsi? He was able to revive his friends after the Dark Lord killed them; maybe he can use his powers to do the same? It might be a way to end the conflict, plus Victim deserves a win after all that's happened to him.
@@yanisgribissa2057Same thing happened when TSC was forced by the scientists to draw an eel, green particles emmited from him for a split second on that scene
Idk…I feel like undoing all of what has happened would make the dark lords death pointless. Him destroying and killing websites and other animations shows that he was a serious threat and his death was necessary or his defeat his death is unconfirmed.
this is such a cliffhanger but still, seeing victims backstory with mitsi, the newgrounds characters and everything else connects the story by ALOT. tysm alan and his team, we will be waiting for the next episode.
This episode was perfectly written. I genuinely am rooting for victim at this point, everything he went through since 2006. Also I don’t know how, but even without dialogue, you’ve made Mitsi an adorable character for the community to adore and love, despite the outcome. The fact that his very first animation shows us how much Alan has changed going into present day. I was born around that year and looking at this today, I could just see how animators would randomly beat up characters they create over apps like illustrator or other online painting tools, similar to how ragdoll physics works now. Dont stop making animations Alan. Your work is a storyboard come to life.
And it's fun pointing out the small details on the second watch, too. The sheep initally afraid of victim, the rocket thrusters made of animation frames, and spotting purples parents at the company sign up booth.
@Rac-h2b I wonder if victim will see TCOs memory of fighting Alan and get him to team up on Alan or something Might be a stretch cause he killed Mitsi Maybe it will show that he was forced into it by tdl or something but probably not that’s stupid now that I think of it
@LlamuOr, it maybe that TDL was actually the one to hit Mitsi, and TCO was just nearby. Note that at absolutely NO point, does TDL _EVER_ appear to either Victim or Agent's vision. It seems oddly convenient that TDL doesn't appear in any way to Victim or Agent... Almost like TDL was actually responsible.
Can I just say that the range of my emotions while watching this video was intense. I was sobbing in the first 2 minutes, then overjoyed for the middle, and once again crying at the end. This was insanely good! Looking forward to the next video!!!!!
@qualcuno186 no way. Well, actually… tsc could awaken his powers, then create mitsi again, to calm victim down… Alan, how many easter eggs and foresshadowing did you do?
There is a good chance that TCO was trying to save Mitsi from TDL but was too late because it was foreshadowed that he was beginning to undermine his schemes around the time they went to newsgrounds, TDL can't possibly have known if he did save the netizens due to all the smoke but it would make him suspicious if he openly defied him with more potential destruction as retaliation. Also it would make more sense if it was a misperception rather than him attacking Mitsi because it adds more conflict in the story on who is actually more 'right' in their goals, and it further illustrates the foil between TCO and victim, the former began using his powers and abilities for destruction upon freedom and then realised he can do better by first redeeming himself (finding his way and working with his past victims after fighting against TDL) and to refrain from using his powers on those he considers incapable of defending themselves against; whereas Victim struggled coping with his past and slowly came over it by building a new life by revolutionising new technology and helping the community, however his past can't get enough of him so he has to be a victim of suffering again indirectly (in this instance) caused by Alan, he then relapses and descends into a spiral of vengeance, drawing wild conclusions that would make him seem mad, and develops tools and weaponry to (impliedly) brutalise other stickmen in order to test his arsenal for the capture of TCO, his (perceived) nemesis.
I JUSt noticed. When victim is looking at agents memories, the scene where we see TCO, the fire he's using to hover lines up perfectly with Victims eyes. Talk about attenion to detail.
I am now even excited for the next episode... maybe Orange got ability to recover codes so that he can bring back Victim's beloved. and Orange's ability have a VFX that looks like the same as those codes(maybe?) were uploading to the newgrounds
So roughly the timeline is: 2006 June 3rd = Victim gets created 2007 March 15th = He escapes and found rocket co. with mitsi in same year 2007 May 15th = TCO gets created(couldnt find real date and took video date) 2011 October 2th = TDL gets created and both he and TCO escapes from Alan PC 2011 founding day of rocket co. = Mitsi dies by TCO 2014 October 2nd = TSC gets created and Alan agrees to live with stickfigures in peace 2018 Auguts 18th = AvA 8 happens(TCO gives up doing evil and TSC defeats TDL). Victim finds TCO also Alan cursor worked together(at his perspective) and starts working on his plan for revenge 2023 April 29th = TCO and TSC gets abducted So TCO spent 4 years in Alan pc, he and TDL spent 7 years wreaking havoc around, Alan didnt create(known) stickfigure for 3 years. Also Victim waited 5 year to start his revenge for real. Just woah.
Average villain life 1.born 2.getting abused by bad people 3.Escape 4.met good people 5.find loved ones (yay) 6.all loved ones die (oh no) 7.villian arc starts Yea I think that’s it before they die again and the cycle restarts
@@abdulkhalidnashwan2072 They could have most likely all died, but they could have left also, but not because of Mitsi's death specifically. I guess idm i dont really make comments because idk anything
You can see green particles appear when an animation is "born". Those same particles appear when TSC uses his powers and resurrection his friends. Maybe he can resurrect Mitsi.
He got tortured, killed, and revived over and over again by Allan. I feel sorry for victim, after seeing his gf got killed I don't know what to thing like dame give this man a break
@@Muskaa2012 Yeah it was like 4 years since they met and started their business. By that point they gotta have a relationship? (So you guys don't get any other ideas I meant their ACTUAL business, not whatever business you're thinking of. Just pointing that out there.)
When you see the prospective of victim you can see that tco was definitely a little darker with his actions than when it was his prospective on the newgrounds raid
I actually felt bad for him when I first saw the animation tbh, I always knew he came back for revenge but dude the episode release just made my theory stronger-
So, the hole Agent escapes the chaos from looks exactly like the portals Chosen One uses, so my theory is that Chosen One went behind Dark Lord's back to give people an escape route.
The portal isn't Chosens power though. That's just what it looks like to have holes torn between PCs and websites. It wasn't something he casually knew how to do until after he fought the Virabot (prior to that, it took literally everything he had to break into Alan's PC.
@@DLxxx It was probably a firewall, hence the 'wall' blocking him from accessing the pc and him needing actual firepower to brute force his way through. It was either a 'backdoor' or a great deal of force is needed to open a passage.
Watching the video back, while it's not clear where his ship landed, the hole might have formed when Victim's ship broke through Newgrounds and into the stick world, perhaps? 6:33
Lore: Purple and his family were at the destruction of Newgrounds. What if after they escaped to the internet world Purple’s father wanted him to become a fighter so he could protect himself from another attack?
@@Uruguay_1Navy wasn’t evil, he just wanted to make his son be able to protect himself and his family. He became frustrated easily, which was his character flaw. Also he was pretty much guiding his family out of there like he was a seasoned war veteran
Alan is the embodiment of our sadistic nature of creating OC lore, it's displayed so brilliantly it's actually so relatable lmao And I'm saying this as someone who made 5 different OCs all with ridiculous backstories that were mostly tragedies behind anger/revenge/inner rage I also wanna highlight Victim and Mitsi's sequence of helping the locals, the style and the soundtrack is very reminiscent of when I first watched Frieren: Beyond Journey's End, it just works perfectly to tell the whole narrative in how Victim got all of what he has now.
That war and the buildup to it (TCO AND TDL committing war crimes) probably sick stuff to his mind, and he handled it poorly and didn't attempt to switch off.
I don't think so. How could the emotional scene happen in the middle of a battle. I think Purple will tell about it at some point and the stick figures will realize who Chosen really was.
7:05 This and the Gold scene in Animation VS Minecraft just goes to show that the Stickverse would be doing a lot better if they used literally anything except levers for all their technology
i just realized, these green orbs when a character is made, are the same that TSC had when using his powers to bring his friends back alan you god damn genius
I wonder what he'll do after this season/arc. But hey, I doubted we'd get more after The Second Coming, doubted we'd get more after the Dark Lord virus thing, so even if we don't get more of the 'main' story, there will almost certainly be more shenanigans.
I love when DJ does his little acting bits but specifically from 19:05 - 20:00 completely sells it for me even with the masterpiece that is alan's slient but beautiful story telling DJ read the scene almost perfectly.
Alan: This is past me Also Alan: Animates TCO being tortured by victim Though i think i speak for all of us when i say "The torture TCO went through is lighter than victims torture"
it's the same day as ava 2 released on newgrounds. (and likely takes place) edit: i personally find it pretty funny that the MOMENT victim leaves alan's computer, the first thing alan does is clean up his computer so he can make another stick figure to torture. (that's my headcanon at least)
I like how it represents that basically from our oc's perspective we can be the villains in their stories since we basically torture them And we give them tragic stories and terrible pasts just for fun and when we get bored we just abandon them or delete them to make another one.
It’s a representation of how we don’t think about the consequences of our actions, and when we’re young, we often just seek our own pleasures. But our actions have consequences. Even if we improve our character through the years, we can’t change the fact that we leave damages behind. The people we hurt don’t know the growth we go through, only having a negative view of who we once were. It’s realistic writing
@@Kryillethe question is How is it gonna resolve I doubt victim will let go even if he finds out Alan didn’t create TCO to destroy mitsi Something has to happen And I think it’s gonna be TSC who helps victim heal a bit Maybe he brings mitsi back
I mean, Alan did programmed The Dark Lord to terminate The Chosen One, then joined with him to destroy part of the Internet and then turned against him when creating a virus to destroy the rest of the Internet.
The immense PTSD Alan gave victim is insane he just explained an entire 16 year lore in one video
The horror TDL and TCO brought also makes sense for the episode: the box.
Yea..though I have to say victim isn’t the only victim, tco and tdl are too. Tco was like victim 2.0, but stronger I suppose, and tdl…his loyalty and his trust was betrayed by Alan, it made him feel useless yk what I mean, so I guess it’s understandable why tdl wanted to justice against Alan and why he agreed with chosen or told chosen to start rampaging other websites from his trust being misused by Alan..still feel pretty bad for Mitsi and vic, I think tsc might be able to bring mitsi back becoz their particles looks rather similar
@Shield-Scope yep you will see things differently if you watch this episode, then episode 1, then episode 2.
@Llamu I seen the episodes before this one if not, all of the animator vs animation episodes.
@Shield-Scope no I’m not saying you haven’t, read it again I’m saying if you watch them in a different order (chronological order) you will have a different understanding of it cause this one ends just before the first one
I fully respect the fact that Alan goes through with the narrative that he was a villain/abuser to sentient/sapient stickmen for "a long time" in total even after redeeming himself.
It can be very easy to portray yourself as a benevolent figure in your own story, but Alan retroactively added more crimes on his list for the sake of the story and the explanations.
Not only that, but the effort to create natural consequences and motivations for the actions of Alan, Victim, TCO, and TDL in a non-verbal story is impressive as ever.
this makes me feel bad for victim and makes the chosen one more of a enemy here
@Markeljms2013 I mean yeah sometimes we forget for a long time tco was evil and causes chaos across the internet because he sided with tdl
He realized his action after he already have killed so much people@@Lumberjack_king
@@Lumberjack_king well i mean he never WANTED to, remember The Chosen One was convinced this was his purpose. all he'd ever known was ALSO being tortured and when he broke free with The Dark Lord they worked together. Dark Lord's purpose was one thing solely: to DESTROY. The Chosen One didn't HAVE a goal, so he just helped The Dark Lord fufill HIS GOAL... only for a while though because when The Dark Lord destroying the main internet and when he decided to go for the whole world, that's when Chosen One realizes this IS NOT his goal and snaps
It also adds a *LOT* of moral gray areas to the story; no one (except for Dark, and even *he's* still got the tiniest chance of redemption if he's still alive) is doing what they're doing for no reason, it's because they were hurt by a very, *very* long chain reaction of the consequences of everyone's actions, and it's the people who are trying to break out of that cycle instead of remaining in it that separates the protagonists from the antagonists.
For a moment during the first scenes, I got so immersed that I went "Why would any sane animator or creator DO that, are they frickin sadistic, Jesus Christ" . . .
And then I immediately remembered the lore I give to dozens of my own OCs and went "Ehh yep _we're_ pretty sadistic our hands are not clean"
I relate with Alan's smug smile during this reaction. It's only painful when bad things happen to someone _else's_ OCs.
yeah, we all ask the same questions when we watch the Spiderverse.....
my ocs sucked and i dont regret deleting most of them, i relate to alan
I read this thought about my oc and went "oh shit" in my head my oc got traumatized twice and when I think about it I imagine it in an edit 😭😭😭
What's your ocs backstory
@nathanlindo854 mine call the VioletWitch because I'm a village girl with Asperger.... won't you be call as a witch when you talk and aware like Abed Nadir from Community?...
“Please don’t fridge this character Alan”
*Alan maniacally snickering*
Technically he didn’t fridge her as she has personality and her death seems to have a large and poignant effect on the narrative. Fridging is when a character just dies for quick emotional hit for another character and then is just completely forgotten about.
@@RRW2.05 By my understanding, fridging doesn't require the dead character to not have personality, or to be forgotten about; the important part is that the character is killed solely to cause another character pain, rather than for any reason related to the dead character themself. In that regard, Mitsi does indeed get fridged here; in fact, she seems solely to exist for the sake of his emotional arc, first to befriend and heal him, then to die and motivate him.
@LiutenantAlaki I will give you that, but I will object with the fact her death plays a large part in the narrative. All character death is meant to play a purpose, that’s how writing is sometimes. A Fridged death is one that is kinda pointless and doesn’t have much effect on the narrative while a well written one has an impact which is long lasting and pays respect to the character that was killed off. I know I’m being technical but can’t really help it. Fridging is usually used to refer to character deaths which are poorly done (think of the comic book girlfriends who appear, die, and then are never mentioned again) and is mainly used to call out bad writing to my knowledge. Mitsi’s death doesn’t seem to have those hallmarks so as a writer I don’t consider her death Fridging, but I guess that is just my opinion.
Tbh, is it that bad to fridge characters, at least in this case? It's not like Alan presented her as a currently alive character that would make you wonder what will happen with them, only to kill them off for cheap emotional stakes. Mitsy has been dead from the very beginning, and it's her death what jumpstarts the plot.
Besides, Mitsy was also important to make us further empathize with Victim, since she was an important part of him redoing his life. Otherwise what would be the alternative? Just make her a non-character, a shade that's on the background, and just tell us that Victim had a loved one that died without further elaborating?
“He doesn’t need any more pain”
10 minutes later:
I like how Alan kills Mitzi and then immediately thinks to sell her as a plushy
Emotional damage control
@@MeemMan001 You're crying? Have you trying drying your tears with OUR NEW MITSI PLUSHIE? LIMITED TIME ONLY!
Why can i hear him say that@daniellamawardi3714
i more love the fac that hes literally the only ytber i know who creates animations *and* react video *to his own animations* . this is like making a movie, watching your own movie and give it a A+ rating because it was that good-level.
@@WhyUBully957 HELPPP
the victim and the chosen one relation is like wanda and thanos:
"you took everything from me!"
"I dont even know who you are"
bro doesn’t even know TCO can’t even shoot fire balls lmao
@@M3SSRB as the other comment said, he still partook on the destruction
@@M3SSRBohh so it was the dark lord damn i didnt notice that but tco must have caused some fire or sth idk 🤔
@@M3SSRB TCO is shown shooting fireballs in The Box.
@@Phobiaph0bic my bad, I just thought he couldn’t because he does it rarely (that’s literally the only time he does it)
The fact that most of the villains were victims of young Alan.
The Chosen one: a stickman which was tortured like victim but he broke out, later on he joined the good side after realising TDL was the villain.
The Dark Lord: a stickman made to terminate TCO but broke out with TCO to make chaos around the websites, later on getting killed by TSC.
Victim: tortured for years, escaped and made a new world, once the newgrounds website got attacked he saw the bad side of TCO which made him hate Alan more once he realised TCO and Alan worked together
Purple: since we saw his family witness the Accident of Newgrounds, maybe his dad wanted for Purple to become stronger, which led to his trauma and past abuse make him another broken villain like TCO, and later on joining the good side.
Also another theory about TSC powers.
Power of creation: since we saw green particles creating the new stickman, just like how we saw him reviving back his friends which got deleted by TDL, maybe if he figured out how to use his powers he could ressurect back Mitsi after Victim would force him to do so after he saw the green particles around TSC from the memory card of TCO.
dam good job on making this theory bro
Im not sure if Victim will connect dots of color and TSC but if he watches rest of memory he will sure try his hand. I personnaly think TSC also need data cuz he went out of his way to go to computer but im not sure.
I think the Green is “Creativity”
Great job with the lore🎉🎉😃
@@CoolCat774 Actually, Vic was tortured for only 9 months, while The Chosen One was made to work as a pop-up blocker for 5 years!
Oh look, a sunshine character! Sure hope nothing bad happens to them!
5 minutes later: *muffled sobbing*
I was like: GOSH DARN IT ITS ALWAYS THE SUNSHINE CHARACTERS! *cries with my victim plush*
@@Blu3BerriX 😭 i dont even have a plush to cries with 😭
I was dreading something to happen. This was a villain origin video, of course he would have something terrible happen.
WWHHHHYYYYYY
mitsi shall return…
Watching AVM/AVA is always a 2 step process.
1. Watch it regularly
2. Watch AVG watch it
and if you want, you can add another step in between them. Which is: cry.
You forgot step 3, which rewatching it 36292518 times and noticing all the details
optional step: watch a bunch of reaction videos and scream when they misunderstand the story
And watching the series backwards
step 3 is listen to the music
@@TerraKnight27 This is so real
Alan: I've changed!
Victim: So have I...
"I will no longer be the victim"
Alan knows how to write Antagonists and "why" they're like that, WITHOUT VOICES or however you want to refer to it (which is the best part)
he makes them seem like the good guys and alan is the sadistic demon who indirectly caused all the ravage
@@sheepriderkiller1181 kinda crazy how alan is genuinely an overarching villian and a hero at the same time. Like nearly all of the villians in ava were alans making, he only straightened up when orange was seen as useful
there were words : june, july, august...
Yeah, show-not-tell kinda thing
@@sheepriderkiller1181 I say Alan is just an average guy using a computer lol, I would definitely do the same thing on what he did
"I miss my wife, Agent. I miss her a lot. I'll be back."
AvA realtime fandub would go crazy
Jokes aside, Every time there's sweet moments of them I always think that they're together
And geez I was right!
Goddamn
snapcube refrence
"I'm dying because of how surprised I am"
Man, what a back story... also, the Newground Massacre is basicly the day when Flash die from the internet....
it was in 2020 right? if it was like more 2 years old from 2018 could be so great
Isn’t it surprising to see someone as crude as Tankman be so helpful, like I don’t know him that well but I know he usually dicks around and curses, which I know isn’t the AVA way but still.
@@nickyzin_omagano TDL/TCO's attack was in 2011, not sure if anything went on then
@danielc2894 In 2011, Newgrounds was severely broken and unusable because of Adobe Flash Player being discontinued, and I guess TDL's rampage was supposed to be the metaphor for that. Now Newgrounds uses an Adobe Flash emulator called "Ruffle".
@danielc2894 October 25th, 2011
S. Casade.
aka, the day Homestuck broke the internet.
19:38 DJ's voice acting fit PERFECTLY with what was going on in the animation
Lol
15:59 Alan's face after DJ missed purple and hid parents
Theory: TSC will use his powers to bring Mitsi back
16:02 WAIT IS THAT PURPLE?!
OMG I JUST NOTICED THAT
You might be right! Not only that might be Purple, but that might be both of his parents!
@@Isaac05696 Yeah, it is them! This also confirms that AvA and AvM are in the same universe (though it was implied before).
This was when Dark Blue, Pink and Purple were all together still. It means that between 2006-2018 they were a happy family.
yes
18:30 I'm so suprised that DJ doesn't realize that the person that was controling the minecraft simulaton in animation vs minecraft of king orange backstory that he was also controling the memory machine now.
Oh yeah!! I noticed that too
I thought that too.
What!!!!!. This confirms that AVA happens WAYYYY before AVM.
@@I-like-cowsKing’s backstory is confirmed to take place after 2018 (Purple’s arc in AvM season 1 & AvLoL), whereas Misti’s death was in 2011, so yea your correct
OMG IT IS! I NEVER NOYICED THAT!
I just realized that this implies that when TSC uses his powers, he doesn't actually kill anything, just sends them somewhere else.
EDIT: To be clear, I was thinking about the viro-bots. TDL got nuked.
He transformed TDL into a fricking binary code
@rhythmheaven who? TCO or TSC
i think he killed TDL bro.
in the area where the last few episodes of AvA took place, if a stick figure that has connections to newgrounds gets killed there, they will then reform in newgrounds. if you're from newgrounds and you get killed there, you're dead. at least, I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
Imagine if TDL survived the attack and got set there the survivor arc would go crazy.
12:14
DJ: Wow, he went from being the worst existence in the world to, like, the best.
Alan: Mhm.
"Mhm". As if he doesn't know what he turned Victim's life into later.
16:02 its purple! Notice how the dad runs off without the mom and purple. Purples story had already begun.
I think this is right before his tragic backstory
Actually, this is the backstory
the tall towers from episode 29 AVM… were they the newgrounds towers all along??
Behold the best way to self insert.
Making yourself the villain.
This is actually a pretty genius lmao
Almost nobody do that in the past, lmao.
@zian01000he didn't say the most used way, he said the best.
@@operatorchakkoty4257 i know
At the ten minute mark I was like, “If Mitsi dies I’m gonna cry.” AND THEN SHE DID AND I CRIED 😭😭
i already know that mitsi gonna die in around 10min because:
first: we havent seen her in the recent episode
second: i remebered a sence where TCO and TDL kill ALMOST EVERYONE on newground
third: mitsi was made in newground
fourth: that'll make a lot of sense for the reason why victim hate TCO
fith: im just guessing and somehow its right lol
💀
we knew before clicking on the thumbnail because this is a "king" episode which requires a touchy sequence of a loved one before they die and the antagonist goes insane
no fight sequence this time around though - oops
The story is really more like a book than a UA-cam series
The story is really more like a book than a UA-cam series
King orange's backstory- the world took my aon from me so im going to punish everyone
Victim's backstory- i found out that the murderer of all of my family and friends AND the creture who tortured me for months endlessly teamed up, and now for my and everyone else's sake im trying to stop them both.
The world made king orange the villian.
The world is the villian that victim tries to stop.
Damn ok Shakespeare
how is this shaksper
good shakespear
Shikspear
how is Alan + TCO the world
18:53 the chosen one’s fire looks like victim’s fiery crying eyes showing that he’s mad and sad at the same time
17:30 That's 100% what the Dark Lord said, in that exact voice
Great, now I headcanon Dark Lord as super goofy and calm sounding, only for him to shift into a pure evil rage voice at times. Kind of like what I do for Flowey
“Dark Lord’s real name is actually John Smith” is what popped in my head when I read this comment and I can’t shake the feeling why
@@minifyesnumberonehater Only goes by the Dark Lord because... well, would you rather be called "John Smith" or "The Dark Lord"? Simple answer.
SNAPCUBE AHH LINE 😭
3:56 "did you built that in 3D?"
"Nope"
How the hell not man.
The credits list UnderMineBlox under "3D ROCKET", so I think it was made in 3D, just not by Alan.
Hear me out; what if TSC can bring back Mitsi? He was able to revive his friends after the Dark Lord killed them; maybe he can use his powers to do the same? It might be a way to end the conflict, plus Victim deserves a win after all that's happened to him.
This theory is good, cause when these drawings cams to life, they had the green sparkles.
@@yanisgribissa2057Same thing happened when TSC was forced by the scientists to draw an eel, green particles emmited from him for a split second on that scene
Idk…I feel like undoing all of what has happened would make the dark lords death pointless. Him destroying and killing websites and other animations shows that he was a serious threat and his death was necessary or his defeat his death is unconfirmed.
@@HZ_Guy i remember that. It blended in with the yellow electricity.
It might explain tsc's ability to make his drawings come to life
this is such a cliffhanger but still, seeing victims backstory with mitsi, the newgrounds characters and everything else connects the story by ALOT. tysm alan and his team, we will be waiting for the next episode.
"Alan don't you dare fridge this character-"
She has the Dead Anime Mom hairstyle, her fate was sealed the moment she appeared.
This episode was perfectly written. I genuinely am rooting for victim at this point, everything he went through since 2006. Also I don’t know how, but even without dialogue, you’ve made Mitsi an adorable character for the community to adore and love, despite the outcome.
The fact that his very first animation shows us how much Alan has changed going into present day. I was born around that year and looking at this today, I could just see how animators would randomly beat up characters they create over apps like illustrator or other online painting tools, similar to how ragdoll physics works now.
Dont stop making animations Alan. Your work is a storyboard come to life.
8:15 "I've never... known a female before."
"And that, my friend, is what I call 'love at first sight."'
niether have i
Lol
16:05 alan: alright, i think dj didn't notice purple family
😂 Yes
He did saw them. He literally mentioned seeing them is awesome
Actually on 16:02
@@Wynn_The_Gamerhe was talking about all the classic newground characters and cameos
@@L-6014 he said that when there are only purple's family on the screen
it is tradition for me to watch main channel videos and then immediately go on AVG for your reactions/director’s commentary
Same
Me too lmao
And it's fun pointing out the small details on the second watch, too. The sheep initally afraid of victim, the rocket thrusters made of animation frames, and spotting purples parents at the company sign up booth.
me too lmao
Me too.
20:52 you're saying that the next episode is coming out much sooner?! Oh my god can't wait to cry again off of emotional stories!
Same! I love crying over stick figures.
14:59 just some subtle foreshadowing
WE NEED PURPLE IN AVA NOW WE LITERALLY SAW HIM AND HIS FAMILY
MAYBE THEY BECAME POOR AFTER THAT and that's why navy left
Maybe the trauma from the experience is why Purple’s dad wanted him to be strong and fight.
@@cianroe3233if we look at it like that, then navy technically isn’t all the bad guy you know
REAL! THEY SHOWED US PURPLE!
Or maybe Navy was lost by this disaster?
I wonder if TDL was responsible for the death of King's son..
This episode gives an entirely new perspective to the season, if you watch episode 3, then 1, then 2, you will see things a lot differently
Yea I think all the stick figures, maybe with the exception of tsc basically are “victims” of Alan, each with a different reason
@Rac-h2b I wonder if victim will see TCOs memory of fighting Alan and get him to team up on Alan or something
Might be a stretch cause he killed Mitsi
Maybe it will show that he was forced into it by tdl or something but probably not that’s stupid now that I think of it
@LlamuOr, it maybe that TDL was actually the one to hit Mitsi, and TCO was just nearby.
Note that at absolutely NO point, does TDL _EVER_ appear to either Victim or Agent's vision.
It seems oddly convenient that TDL doesn't appear in any way to Victim or Agent... Almost like TDL was actually responsible.
@Rac-h2bDidn’t TSC get bullied in AvA 4?
@Wave550 No, he caused chaos and reaped punishments
The green particles around mitsi is like tsc's powers yeah?
I just noticed that! Maybe?
i noticed that aswell maybe his power is connected to newgrounds or maybe the internet in general
ITS THEORY TIME >:D
I think she is back (TSC power)
Stop... ТSC can resurrect her
Can I just say that the range of my emotions while watching this video was intense. I was sobbing in the first 2 minutes, then overjoyed for the middle, and once again crying at the end. This was insanely good! Looking forward to the next video!!!!!
20:26 we got da dosen one - Alan 2024
we dot da dawahk word
we got biktim agyen
And we got Mitsiiiiii...
Greatest reply thread I’ve ever seen 10/10
20:03 "BUY MORE KEYCHAINS... BUY MORE KEYCHAINS" ahh edit 🤣😂
*_gravity falls reference spotted_*
Lmao
11:44 "We have new Jesus!" -DJ
LOL 😆
I can understand the facetiousness, but it kind of bothers me. Great story.
Victim Nation, how we feeling?
this shi is so funny 😹😹
I just realised that the green effect for when a new stick figure is born (7:32) is the same as TSC's power effect when he revived the color gang
Pretty sure that green glow is canonically "The Power of Creation"
So TSC might revive Mitsy?
@@fhtravelerI think it’s “Creativity”
@@HZ_Guytechnically yes and i'm pretty sure it's gonna happen
@qualcuno186 no way. Well, actually… tsc could awaken his powers, then create mitsi again, to calm victim down… Alan, how many easter eggs and foresshadowing did you do?
There is a good chance that TCO was trying to save Mitsi from TDL but was too late because it was foreshadowed that he was beginning to undermine his schemes around the time they went to newsgrounds, TDL can't possibly have known if he did save the netizens due to all the smoke but it would make him suspicious if he openly defied him with more potential destruction as retaliation.
Also it would make more sense if it was a misperception rather than him attacking Mitsi because it adds more conflict in the story on who is actually more 'right' in their goals, and it further illustrates the foil between TCO and victim, the former began using his powers and abilities for destruction upon freedom and then realised he can do better by first redeeming himself (finding his way and working with his past victims after fighting against TDL) and to refrain from using his powers on those he considers incapable of defending themselves against; whereas Victim struggled coping with his past and slowly came over it by building a new life by revolutionising new technology and helping the community, however his past can't get enough of him so he has to be a victim of suffering again indirectly (in this instance) caused by Alan, he then relapses and descends into a spiral of vengeance, drawing wild conclusions that would make him seem mad, and develops tools and weaponry to (impliedly) brutalise other stickmen in order to test his arsenal for the capture of TCO, his (perceived) nemesis.
Ya know, this makes a lot of sense
I JUSt noticed. When victim is looking at agents memories, the scene where we see TCO, the fire he's using to hover lines up perfectly with Victims eyes. Talk about attenion to detail.
Genuinely better than almost any movie I have ever seen.
Edit: That ending was golden
those people in Pixar didn't know who they just lose
better story than some without any dialogue too
not good as AVM episode 30 but still this is a MASTERPEICE
Something tells me Orange is gonna bring back Victim's beloved, like he did with his friends after them dying.
@@fish3167 yeah I wish chosen realize of what he did. And alan too
I am now even excited for the next episode...
maybe Orange got ability to recover codes so that he can bring back Victim's beloved.
and Orange's ability have a VFX that looks like the same as those codes(maybe?) were uploading to the newgrounds
I will keep this in mind
Ooh ya orange powers are the same as the mitsi or stickman energy to bring them alive like orange frend
@rohemasgg me roo I cant forget the ending
So roughly the timeline is:
2006 June 3rd = Victim gets created
2007 March 15th = He escapes and found rocket co. with mitsi in same year
2007 May 15th = TCO gets created(couldnt find real date and took video date)
2011 October 2th = TDL gets created and both he and TCO escapes from Alan PC
2011 founding day of rocket co. = Mitsi dies by TCO
2014 October 2nd = TSC gets created and Alan agrees to live with stickfigures in peace
2018 Auguts 18th = AvA 8 happens(TCO gives up doing evil and TSC defeats TDL). Victim finds TCO also Alan cursor worked together(at his perspective) and starts working on his plan for revenge
2023 April 29th = TCO and TSC gets abducted
So TCO spent 4 years in Alan pc, he and TDL spent 7 years wreaking havoc around, Alan didnt create(known) stickfigure for 3 years. Also Victim waited 5 year to start his revenge for real. Just woah.
Mitsi died at the 4th anniversary of the founding of
So basically Alan is the cause of every problem in this world
if TCO was created in 2007, then he was used as an Add Blocker for like 4 Years while Victim was murdered day after day for 10 months
All of ava season 2 happened on the same day, it wasn’t just ava 8.
also with this episode is almost canon the fact that AvM and AvA occur in the same universe
Average villain life
1.born
2.getting abused by bad people
3.Escape
4.met good people
5.find loved ones (yay)
6.all loved ones die (oh no)
7.villian arc starts
Yea I think that’s it before they die again and the cycle restarts
19:46 the dialogue here is PERFECT!
18:30 Think the dark green guy is the same once with the guy that operate the minecraft machine in the back story of king orange
No way 😮😮
yeah, with how many people quits after Mitsi's death from his company, probably was trying a new job
@@abdulkhalidnashwan2072 They could have most likely all died, but they could have left also, but not because of Mitsi's death specifically.
I guess idm i dont really make comments because idk anything
@@kirk4673 some might have, but when you look at some of newspaper that Victim was making threads of, you get my point
I thought I was the only one who found it, finally someone else showed up :D
So all this while, Alan is the villain.
Such a masterpiece
We knew that like... from the begging, Alan is just expanding his list of crimes.
Lol young Alan was a menace.
@@kiandennislambujon36a lot of us when we were young are menaces
@@mariustan9275 especially to our own OCs, what Alan did to victim is fairly common (sorry not sorry to all our traumatized OCs)
17:06
Dj:she's fine...
Alan:yeah.
Did... we just got a spoiler?
Nahh that's just alan giving him hope by lying.
i hope so ...........
tsc will revive her using his green powers
The way he said it made me believe that
You can see green particles appear when an animation is "born". Those same particles appear when TSC uses his powers and resurrection his friends. Maybe he can resurrect Mitsi.
2:15 "Only took me 17 years" 😭
20:18 why did they remove this
2018 timestamp
He got tortured, killed, and revived over and over again by Allan.
I feel sorry for victim, after seeing his gf got killed I don't know what to thing like dame give this man a break
Very dark, victim got killed and revived too many times getting traumatizes
Victim, is not the victim.
Now *_they_* are the victims.
Ouch I feel bad for victim his only true friend is gone bc of chosen 😢😢😢😢
@Blueberries-1yfriend... Wait I thought they were a "thing" 👁👄👁 it gives off the vibes ngl 😅😅
Yeah I once fell bad for Tco in the unfair fight against victim but now Tco deserve all that
@@Muskaa2012 at 13:48 the magazine says they're a power couple. I think it implies they are married/in a relationship
@@Muskaa2012 Yeah it was like 4 years since they met and started their business. By that point they gotta have a relationship?
(So you guys don't get any other ideas I meant their ACTUAL business, not whatever business you're thinking of. Just pointing that out there.)
2006: Haha, victim is so stupid!
2023: He's back?
2024: Omg, I feel so bad for him now!
When you see the prospective of victim you can see that tco was definitely a little darker with his actions than when it was his prospective on the newgrounds raid
I actually felt bad for him when I first saw the animation tbh, I always knew he came back for revenge but dude the episode release just made my theory stronger-
Yeah truly i don't even want victim to lose anymore
2:57 "its just a prank bro"
lol
Lol *LETS GET THIS GUY TO LOL STREAK*
no
lol
No
Victim: You took everything from me
TCO: I don't even know who you are!
So, the hole Agent escapes the chaos from looks exactly like the portals Chosen One uses, so my theory is that Chosen One went behind Dark Lord's back to give people an escape route.
The portal isn't Chosens power though. That's just what it looks like to have holes torn between PCs and websites. It wasn't something he casually knew how to do until after he fought the Virabot (prior to that, it took literally everything he had to break into Alan's PC.
@DLxxx I think that might've been the Virabot locking him out, because afterwards he does it as if he's done it a million times before
@@DLxxx It was probably a firewall, hence the 'wall' blocking him from accessing the pc and him needing actual firepower to brute force his way through.
It was either a 'backdoor' or a great deal of force is needed to open a passage.
Thank you for redeeming the Chosen one with this theory because I’m still fuming 💀
Watching the video back, while it's not clear where his ship landed, the hole might have formed when Victim's ship broke through Newgrounds and into the stick world, perhaps? 6:33
This video is so deep, so much lore. Alan made himself the villain!
Redeemed in the most recent generation, but haunted by the past ones. Absolutely stunning...
Lore: Purple and his family were at the destruction of Newgrounds. What if after they escaped to the internet world Purple’s father wanted him to become a fighter so he could protect himself from another attack?
You're making me question if Navy is evil now
@@Uruguay_1knowing Alan
That might be the plan
Notice one of the Minecraft programmers was also in newgrounds
And rocket co
@@Uruguay_1Navy wasn’t evil, he just wanted to make his son be able to protect himself and his family. He became frustrated easily, which was his character flaw. Also he was pretty much guiding his family out of there like he was a seasoned war veteran
20:00 I am dyiiiiing😂
Looooool
Lmao
20:07
Alan.exe
Alan is the embodiment of our sadistic nature of creating OC lore, it's displayed so brilliantly it's actually so relatable lmao
And I'm saying this as someone who made 5 different OCs all with ridiculous backstories that were mostly tragedies behind anger/revenge/inner rage
I also wanna highlight Victim and Mitsi's sequence of helping the locals, the style and the soundtrack is very reminiscent of when I first watched Frieren: Beyond Journey's End, it just works perfectly to tell the whole narrative in how Victim got all of what he has now.
7:36 He can smell angst
Purple and his family was born from newgrounds
Then his dad left him in the war
It Wasn't Really A War. More Like A Massacre
That war and the buildup to it (TCO AND TDL committing war crimes) probably sick stuff to his mind, and he handled it poorly and didn't attempt to switch off.
@@roboticraptorofstuff1558 which means purple's dad is still alive
I don't think so. How could the emotional scene happen in the middle of a battle. I think Purple will tell about it at some point and the stick figures will realize who Chosen really was.
@@jeremiahdizon5865 we dont know about that yet, cant comfirm it now
Didn't realize victim had a gf
And i still dont
Yeah, "had"
@tommyfoley414FOUL.
Victim got the Gerald Robotnik and Shadow treatment fr 😭
@@mcstudioproductions3512 that was absolutely foul. 😭😭
ah yes, you know stickpeople go insane when they start writing on walls.
not sure if anyone else has commented this yet, but I can't believe that DJ didn't notice purple and his parents in all the Newgrounds chaos.
7:05 This and the Gold scene in Animation VS Minecraft just goes to show that the Stickverse would be doing a lot better if they used literally anything except levers for all their technology
This comment is comedic gold lol (pun absolutely intended)
i just realized, these green orbs when a character is made, are the same that TSC had when using his powers to bring his friends back
alan you god damn genius
Theory: TSC can bring them all back
Observation: PURPLE AND HIS PARENTS WERE AT 16:00 on the left
OH THAT WOULD BE AMAZING
If he knew them he probably could just like his gang
OMG THATS SUCH A GOOD THEORY
19:51 why does that one with red background looks a bit like "No longer human" book
You know, he’s corrupted
@@NguyenMinh792 I know, it's that as a BSD fan when I see something I know I just have to comment lol
19:41 "good ready the men the stick MEN" would go so hard
20:07 ALAN YOU EVIL MF
HOW COULD YOU?!
The video from the reaction is different with the video alan backer
HE WAS ALREADY PREDICTING IT 4:50
Bro instantly knew. That just makes it hilarious in a incredibly dark way
I knew it too. Something about that music queue.
This is one of the best stickman animation series that has been ever made, you can't change my mind
I wonder what he'll do after this season/arc. But hey, I doubted we'd get more after The Second Coming, doubted we'd get more after the Dark Lord virus thing, so even if we don't get more of the 'main' story, there will almost certainly be more shenanigans.
I love when DJ does his little acting bits but specifically from 19:05 - 20:00 completely sells it for me even with the masterpiece that is alan's slient but beautiful story telling DJ read the scene almost perfectly.
Alan: This is past me
Also Alan: Animates TCO being tortured by victim
Though i think i speak for all of us when i say "The torture TCO went through is lighter than victims torture"
16:01 you can see purple with his mom and dad.
Notice how purples dad didn’t bother to help purple after they reached their hand out.. 😭
Now we know how purple mom died ig
Oranges power is litterally bringing back deleted files and codes
But he doesnt know how he did that
"power of life" as I call
Must be triggered by some sort of anger
Cough cough memory machine cough.(checkov’s gun)
TSC is gonna pull an undertale and start reloading them save files
2:46 I just noticed Victim's escape occurs on the Ides of March......hmmm
HOLLY how did i not realize that it happens litteraly one day after my birthday omg
@Neo-ooo0o0oYOU WERE BORN ON PI DAY?
@ArtemisAYO YEAH LOL
it's the same day as ava 2 released on newgrounds. (and likely takes place)
edit: i personally find it pretty funny that the MOMENT victim leaves alan's computer, the first thing alan does is clean up his computer so he can make another stick figure to torture. (that's my headcanon at least)
@@unsmart42069 ooh nice
I respect Alan who makes himself a villain for the sake of the story.
Victim : "so he created a powerful stick being to hunt me down huh.."
Bro the lore is insane. The Victim's origin connects all the AVA episodes from season 1.
Did anyone else realize that after victim entered the animation world, the animation world was connected to every pc and internet place?
That is kinda poetic
Now you mention it like that ❤
I still don't get what that is or how it works
I see is as the way TCO and TDL were able to escape Alan's pc
Alan's PC was put in the foreground. So it probably explains many things about the whole series.
@Moon...125 yeah but why did it happen?
16:00
You can tell alan noticed how DJ didn't notice purple's family
20:04 "AWESOME!" (last words before disaster
How did alan give a stick figure a more tragic backstory than almost all other villains
DJ's reaction is literally us
"JESUS CHRIST"
It kind of bothers me, great story though. it feels more like a book than a UA-cam series.
@@caelgrayheavens1234it's can't be novel tho since there's no dialogue or knowing characters thoughts
The thumbnail looking similar is perfect.
DJ hitting that miles morales pose
@@HZ_Guy Wait the thumbnail didn't have DJ and Alan on there before but it does make sense becasue it's a reaction vid.
20:08 IM POOR SONT HURT ME
Yeah, like why do they cost 2K pesos? ($36, is around 2K pesos btw with shipping)
It's not unnecessary trauma, it's called character development!
I like how it represents that basically from our oc's perspective we can be the villains in their stories since we basically torture them And we give them tragic stories and terrible pasts just for fun and when we get bored we just abandon them or delete them to make another one.
I cannot look at Alan the same way again after this
DJ himself once said,
"The true heroes are the villains"
It’s a representation of how we don’t think about the consequences of our actions, and when we’re young, we often just seek our own pleasures. But our actions have consequences. Even if we improve our character through the years, we can’t change the fact that we leave damages behind. The people we hurt don’t know the growth we go through, only having a negative view of who we once were. It’s realistic writing
@@Kryillethe question is
How is it gonna resolve
I doubt victim will let go even if he finds out Alan didn’t create TCO to destroy mitsi
Something has to happen
And I think it’s gonna be TSC who helps victim heal a bit
Maybe he brings mitsi back
"Oh Alan you better not fridge this character."
What does that even mean? I feel like it’s a reference I don’t get.
@@dragonflarefrog1424 He mean " oh Alan you better not kill this caracter"
Fridging is when the author kills a character for no purpose other than hurt the audiênce and another character
@@mobgabriel1767 Alan most certainly fridged Mitsi 😭
*looks at mitsy*"Oh thats not a stickmin, thats a corpse wrapped in a deathflag"
HA!
Pov: You just realized that Alan is the real bad guy, not Victim, not The Dark Lord, not The Chosen One
No TDL always was a menace Alan didn’t do anything to him
I mean, Alan did programmed The Dark Lord to terminate The Chosen One, then joined with him to destroy part of the Internet and then turned against him when creating a virus to destroy the rest of the Internet.
How much therapy would victim have to go through just to cope with all of this