Top 10 Stranger Things Season 5 Rumors Explained
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2022
- There are a lot of rumors surrounding “Stranger Things” Season 5, and we're here to break them all down for you. For this list, we’ll be looking at the juiciest bits of fan theories surrounding the fifth and final season of this hit Netflix show. If you’re not caught up through Season 4, this is your spoiler warning. Our countdown includes The Return of Kali [A.K.A. Eight], Will’s Relationship With Vecna, A New Upside Down Monster, and more! What do you want to see in Season 5? Let us know in the comments below!
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creel house and her being sister just another connection to why it happened to those boys speciffically
that cali could be part of vega and stuff to so if he was her be reason why we didnt see her
maybe if wills brother and mother know about wills true father bring new meaning why he looked back at him in the van
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I have a feeling that Vecna has been preparing Will since season 1 to be his vessel in the event that things turned sideways. I think he used the mind flayer to “upload” his consciousness into Will so that he could live on in the event that something were to ever happen to his physical body. That’s the reason why he can sense where Vecna is and the reason why he was able to go in and out of the Upside Down in season 2. It’s been the plan since Season 1
Bring back Eddie Munson (the original Guitar Hero 80's edition) and DO NOT KILL MAX. Keep all of our favorite team alive.
It makes sense since will was basically replaced by eleven, and the whole thing everything happening an FU to eleven
I agree
We just have to wait for "Season 5" to b released, and see if "Vecna" indeed prepared "Will" since the "1st season" to b his "vessel".
Indeed... When Will is chased in season 1 by the Demogorgon it sounds like a grandfather clock chiming once or twice.. and the door at his house has the lock slide open. Which seems more like a Vecna power than a demogorgon power.. Did we ever see the Demos use psychic powers?
If Stranger Things ends up being "all a game", I'll literally unsub from netflix, make a new UA-cam account, make my first video ever and say I am mad.
Reminds me of black mirror.
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Well get ready bud because that's exactly what's going on.
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LETS COLLABORATE😭
I have a feeling that Max's condition will be very important for season 5. We saw a scene where Eleven couldn't see Max's conscience, but Max could have made a connection with Vecna.
Very true, it never fully proved she was dread. Just like Will
The duffer brothers have confirmed in recent interviews that Max being in a coma is very important for season 5 so your feelings are correct
Yeah she's connected alright. She's trapped in his mind scape.
001 told eleven that the people he killed aren't gone, they're still with me in here, and points to his mind. so maybe because max came back to life shes trapped in vecnas mind. And brenner told 011 that he doesn't just kill, he takes everything from his victims, so i think she'll be brain dead in s5 as the duffer brothers had said she might be.
And when eleven went to find max in the void her mind wasnt there because i think its still trapped in vecnas mind but unlike his other victims shes alive, so maybe when they find a way to free her from his mind then she'll wake up from her coma
Who else was hoping Billy was going to come from one of Max's memories and stall/save Max?
That could be cool if he’s trapped in Vecna’s mind and is trying to make up for how his abuse affected her.
Same
They definitely already missed that great opportunity as you suggest. The end his character pretty conclusively with Dear Billy. Even the use of him later is as a replay of the past as if he is gone gone.
I really thought that the person playing the guitar upside-down in the promo video for season 4 was Billy..."Alive" in the upside-down. All along it was the newcomer Eddie.
ive seen fanart before of billy distracting vacna while max escaped
Okay honestly, the “join me” part makes me believe %100 that 001 is 011’s dad. Because the duffer bros take their nods to the 80s very seriously.
And they said that season 4 was their “empire strikes back”
Season
From someone who was of similar age to the cast during that time on the series and lived through the 80s. There are SO MANY easter eggs throughout the whole series which is why the show is so popular to all generations. I saw that reference to 11 being her father with the Empire Strikes Back. I saw a lot of tiny references from movies like Elm Street, Lost Boys, Poltergeist, Shining to name a few. My family and I are enjoying the horror flicks as well as all the flashback memories and explaining to the younger fans what it was like back then. One of my favorite games was Dungeon and Dragons too especailly when it came out on Atari 😊. I am waiting for Ozzy music references. 😈
@@silverpurkat Eddie mentions Ozzy to Steve, after Steve rips the Upside Down bat thing in half
you have a very valid point
Indeed.. I didn't realize how the timelines added up there. Pretty crazy theory, but I think it very well could be true!!
Couple of things to consider.
1: Will could be the true heir to the Upside Down as it was he who created the facsimile of Hawkins.
2: In D&D Lore, Vecna was also known to hoard knowledge for himself and what has more information than your very soul.
3: Will's painting of a 3-headed dragon could be a hint of Tiamat. While Tiamat has 5 heads, Will may have only been paying attention to 3 of them.
I hope season 5 will focus more on Will and his connection to Vecna / his powers.
Also if time travel is a thing then they better bring back Eddie. If not then they better clear his name!
Since the script is still under writing, anything is possible from fan requests.
I wish they had put in a few minutes more of Henry becoming vecna, he obviously has achieved some level of sybiotic relationship with the vines or created them altogether. And it would help to explain his physical survival since the first two seasons portrayed the upside-down world as so toxic to humans.
I think they forget about that part...
@@ineas9 yea they def did lol, nobody even cares to wear masks in the upside down anymore. Either they'll all die of upside down cancer in 5 years or I guess it wasn't toxic after all
I think that vecna took all Max's memories and he's hiding with her in one of her favorite memories...and that max wrote this memory in someone's letter "eleven maybe" so when they know that shes in one of those memories eleven will enter the memory and help max
He knew exactly what he was doing, he knew max would try to fight his curse by thinking of good memories and he wanted to traumatize her by tainting a good memory
That's actually smart theory
So much memory, I lost 1000000 brain cells
You know what I’d like to see, I want dart to come back as a good demogorgon and protect the group. Maybe even battle out another demogorgon in the finale.
Ahaha yesss
I believe dart died when eleven closed the gate
Looking it up, it says dart died
@@baeleighbackstrom874 Ooh :( it would be cool though right?
@@Juve_Fan2601 oh, definitely!!
I wanna see Eddie come back as some kinda thing from the upside down that will try to torment the team later on but deep down inside might be one of the only things in the upside down with a conscience and some how help them out in the end! Thats just an idea in my head though cause he was such a loveable and liked character.
Definitely gonna come back as a vampire
That be cool if he came back with Max's brother. Maybe they could team up or be adversaries... either way
@@DomSr this
Bring back Eddie as a ghost with a magical guitar along with special abilities to help out Eleven and her friends. That would definitely win the fans over.
I don't think they just left his body in the upside down
Fan theories say that Eddie will come back bcoz in the first episode of the fourth season of Stranger Things, "The Hellfire Club" D&D game, Eddie reveals that Vecna is still alive, to which an outraged Mike protests- "He was killed by Kas!"
Kas is the vampiric lieutenant of the powerful lich Vecna. However, after years of service to Vecna, Kas betrays and kills his master. This betrayal is actually referenced in that episode!!! Eagerly waiting for Season 5 ✨💛
I think I read somewhere that the duffer brothers confirmed Eddie is ded
@@ambers935 well vampires are 'dead'. Kas is a vampire
@@ambers935 The duffer brothers said that demobats can’t kill and Dustin never checked for a pulse.
Eddie choked on his own blood from the wounds.
Hey, I don't want him to be dead, but to quote Erica, "Just the facts!"
It was well done too, sneaky. I wouldn't have caught it without a rewatch.
The Henry being eleven’s father would totally contradict his whole views on the human race like how he said that all we do is work reproduce and die having a child would just not make sense
I think brenner probably took Henry’s “stuff” and put it in terry, or forced him to seggs her. I believe Henry is elevens father but that this was orchestrated by brenner and he wanted to see what it would be like if the one (haha pun) he’s been obsessed with had a kid
I don‘t like this theory neither. I think her father is either unknown or just Brenner
If you put one plus 1 meaning a child side by side it's 11 lol
Yeah that's probably true. But even supernatural beings like Henry make mistakes and, if possible he probably had her prior, and his view changed. But that's also a very slim possibility because he was tortured by Martin Brenner when he was a kid and eleven was born when he was 24, so yeah
I can’t watch watch the “Chrissy wake up” scene without hearing that song that was made from those words 😂
I have a feeling that Will was abducted because he has natural powers like Vecna and he wanted him to become his sidekick and to take over the world together
I have a feeling that if that does happen, it’ll be because Vecna brainwashes Will.
Doubtful.
Will may eventually have powers. But Vecna didn't "NEED" anyone at that point. He feels 011 betrayed him. So naturally he's not "looking" for a "sidekick," but a puppet. He used Will exactly how he intended in season 2 (a spy). Just like he used Billy in season 3. Vecna IS the Master of Puppets.
Ok so why didn't he?
@@wadewilson8011 Well, he is the leader.
@@AirQuotes Build suspension?
Fantastic video! It makes me that much more excited for Season 5! :)
I honestly kept thinking the Mind Flayer’s smoke monster form was the Thessalohydra until they revealed it was the Mind Flayer because of that campaign scene with Mike placing the Thessalohydra. It did kind of look like a hydra to me at first. Bringing it in now would be a nice callback.
If Karen is Alice and Henry is Eleven’s father, that would be so messed up for El and Mike, cause that would make them cousins
So you don't have to worry about that. ALICE IS DEAD! Making Karen Alice would be the DUMBEST thing imaginable. We didn't see Alice "killed" but we DID see her dead body with her blood coming out if her eyes and her arms purple from the trauma of her arms being broken. Anyone who couldn't see that is clearly blind. That's why I said it would be the DUMBEST addition to the narrative.
Think about why Henry was the one Victor picked up and tried to save. And exactly why he was THOUGHT to be in a coma.
Go back and rewatch everything.
@@wadewilson8011 thats why he said “if”, its just a theory
Sweet home alabama
Kinda fits the start wars theory even better than thanks to Lucas making Leia and Luke related!
@@skoister4811 THANK YOU
If Vecna is Eleven's father and Mike's mother is Alice Creel, that means that Mike and Eleven are cousins... That would be an awkward realization
On top of two siblings dating two siblings of the same family? (Mileven and Jancy)
Omg they better not do that
What if that's why vecna showed Nancy vecnas past life bc Nancy may be Alice's daughter???
Hol up
No way. Alice is dead, you can see her eyeballs out and the crack bones
even if eddie does come back as a vampire, it still won't end well for him. he'll either die with the hive mind, sacrifice himself to save dustin, or allow himself to immolated by the sun
When El brought back Max to life they kinda hinted that she was going back in time, with the camera shot spinning. I feel like by her doing that, she not only resurrected Max, but MAYBE Eddie and Vecna/one/Henry too. Maybe even others that got killed in the upside down like Barb.
You wish lol
That would be great tho haha
Yeah, had the same vibe
I really hope they do that.
Getting real Jumanji vibes from the theory of it all being a game and then resetting to the time of the very first episode.
Interesting as Jumanji (the book) was released in 1981 so just a couple years before where the show originally picks up and being kids at the time into D&D and other fantasy, I’m sure Will and the others would have read it fairly recently before when the show introduces us to them.
The more I think about the series as a whole and how the Duffers have said they have had the same timeline in mind since season 2, I wouldn’t discount this whole thing being a campaign Like Jumanji
A friend was talking about what Vechna is and how he is defeated. Essentially, his defeat is by a vampire who takes his eye and arm as a relic (possibly eddie, who is left with bats). The mind flayer is apparently a very powerful world-ender in DND lore, with psychic abilities). So, continuing with Dungeons and Dragons- I think there will be some interesting things if season 5 is as you say the “final season”
Als EDIT: Thank you for the research and saving me time watching a long video on DND lore.
I think again someone important is gonna die, don’t have a clue who but I suspect either Will, because he is what started all this and he was the main original focus of the start of the show, he could give himself like a tony stark like sacrifice or he could just die, or Mike, and that will make eleven strong enough to defeat Vecna or whatever the next monster is
Also, that two day time jump that they had at the end of the last episode felt super rushed, and I’d like to see what occurred in those two days
Right? Like how did they get out of the upside down? The gates split wide open, and by the looks of what it did to Jason when it opened, they could have been dangerous to even touch.
I think will, their not gonna kill mike. I mean he’s important but not as detrimental
I can see will dying to make a sacrifice to beat vecna since he's connected to him
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@@justsomegirlwithoutamustache he’s connected to at least pretty much everything in the upside down
I believe Will has a connection to Vecna seeing as how there somewhat alike. However I want to see a knock down drag out apocalyptic fight between Vecna and the gang with Will being the main character.
1 is 11’s father 😂 “ eleven I am your father “ 😂
@6:10 the whole concept being a board game gives it Zathura vibes!
If Eddie comes back, the only way it I'll accept it is if heavy metal and shotguns are heard as Eddie DoomGuy's it through a army of demogorgons demodogs, demo bats and other upsidedown monsters.
He chose the path of perpetual torment and those who tasted the bite of his spear... named him *The Demoslayer*
It’s definitely significant that the dialogue refers November 6, 1983 as the day Will went missing instead of the Day El opened the gate. Maybe his untapped powers will enable him to take control of the hive mind and turn it on Vecna.
Karen had less screen time in season 4, but she contributed more to the plot than she did in seasons 2 and 3.
Nancy doesn’t know it was the day El opened the gate. She only knew about Will missing so that’s why she say that. It doesn’t mean there’s a specificity
How did Karen contribute to the plot in season 4? All she did was make breakfast for the gang and said it was sweet how they stuck together, called the cops after the town meeting, hold holly during the earthquake and told Mike he was never going anywhere ever again.
Omg this channel is so good for any show or movie
Eleven: She Told me you killed him.
Vecna: No Eleven, I am your Father.
5:35
I'm calling it right now:
Will is going to save the world by sacrificing his life leading up to the death of Vecna this upcoming season!
Maybe Eleven could look into Vecnas mind like she did with max, and maybe see all the victims, since 001 said that they're still with him (in his mind). So maybe she can bring them back or just see them since they're in his mind.
I doubt they will bring Eddie back, and if they do he'll either be controlled by Vecna or something else, not just regular eddie unfortunately. What I would like to see for him that is within possibility is him coming back as some sort of moral compass for el or dustin, not like flashbacks, but like the mind conversations el has. itd still be sad, knowing we'd never get to see him meet will, el, or mike, but it's the only real way i could think of him returning positively.
he’s literally friends with mike did u not see episode 1
Mike is part of his D&D crew at school, so he already met him and is friends with him
I’d usually agree but they got a lot of backlash from ending a loved character too soon with Barb…maybe they learned? Especially because he was so much more involved than Barb. Not sure if they’re those kind of writers, but it’d be interesting to see if/how they would use him
I'm hoping they bring him back as Cass, he was a great character and actor, any capacity or return would be better than none
I don't think Eddie will come back alive but maybe in season 5 we'll get to see him just like how max saw Billy in season 4 or maybe in flashbacks
It would be dope if Dustin picks up the guitar and has a Master of Puppets moment like Eddie.
Or imagine he learns to play “one”!
@@BenBancoffOfficial a song about someone with injuries from battle who feels neither alive or dead but is instead in constant torment. 🤔song could definitely play into Max’s situation.
the sequence of henry's narration of how vecna came into being is the longest monologue i have watch but this series is an epic
If the time travel theory is true then it could be a huge impact for the final seasons. I feel like Vecna sees the bad future in his on reality but Eleven could change that.
the Karen Wheeler/Alice Creel theory doesn't really pan out when you consider that a bunch of people had the Creel house underneath them. Everyone who was in Hawkins had it; Lucas, Erica, Dustin, Nancy, Steve, Eddie, Robin, Max and Karen. Will, Jonathan and Argyle all had the Byers home in California. Hopper, Joyce and Murray all had the prison in Russia and Eleven had the Hawkins Lab. The only curious thing is why did Karen get a poster; I wouldn't consider her a main character, especially in terms of screen time - hell even characters like Argyle, the friendly prison guard and the smuggler had more screen time than she did
Because she's a bigger name in the industry honestly that's the only reason most likely.
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The Duffers said that they don't want to create new monsters, but the Thessalhydra already exists because you heard the roar
I actually read a theory in a comment on another video that Joyce, not Karen is Alice. It makes more sense. I’m pretty sure Alice is dead, but Winona Ryder does actually have naturally blonde hair if Hypothetically Joyce was Alice and Henry was El’s father, that would mean that Will and El are cousins. When the one guy was describing El to Hopper (as the “boy” he saw with Benny) the physical description sounded like Will and set Hopper on that path. Will and El also both had the same stuffed lion in season 1. And El kinda looks like Joyce.
Winona Ryder may have naturally blonde hair, but that doesn't mean Joyce does.
And that last point about El looking like Joyce is more the look of the actors and may be not intentional.
Other than that you did have some great points and it is a good theory.
When I didn't saw season 3, and saw posters of Robin with Steve I thought her to be Joyce.. 😂 I know many of you won't agree but there is an uncanny resemblance btwn the two
And that would explain how Will has special powers and could survive in the Upside Down. It would be in this blood kinda thing.
If Vecna absorbs his victims, and develops their memories and abilities.... and he absorbed Max.... he's now a sassy redhead!
Eddie comes back as "Cass "to help Eleven and 8 kill vecna in the Upside Down
I don't think Karen is Alice Creel and time travel could be involed in the season.
I wonder if Kali and her gang would find redemption in the next season.
I'd love to see Kali and her gang interact with the Hawkins team.
Any ideas why Karen Wheeler got a poster with Creel house?
When we saw One in the Upside Down I was wondering if he just wondered into a Hawkins or what... since he clearly wasn't anywhere discernible! Hopefully Will becomes the Wizard he's always wanted to be!
One very emotional detail from stranger things - Will, Mike, Dustin and Lucas could never complete the Dungeons and Dragons campaign they started in season 1 episode 1
I think the new upside down monster will definitely be the Thesslhydra, because there's this Stranger Things dnd set you can get with a campaign that was meant to be made by Mike, and it's all about hunting down and killing the Thesslhydra, who hides in its lair by going there through the upside down, and the drawing of the Thesslhydra shows it has a giant gaping mouth, just like Nancy described.
My prediction: Vecna creates an army of the dead with souls of Billy, Eddie, Chrissy, Barb, Bob and others who fell.
I sincerely hope that theory #6 turns out to be true. Yea I get it you'd be mad at first sight but in the end if you think about it, all the beloved characters who died would still be alive and the show being a campaign would tie back to the heavy influences it's had by d&d. Not to mention it would be ballsy af, not many shows would pull such a trigger which would make it unique and special in it's own right
Exactly, when I heard that theory of how max’s consciousness is in Vecna’s head, I thought hold on maybe there will be a moment when Vecna is only a few seconds away from victory is about to kill Eleven but Max takes over his head and distracts him long enough for Eleven to kill him.
OMG GUYS what if at the end, will sacrifices himself and everything goes back to normal the day will went missing in season 1. Mike and the party group would feel so sad that they didn't play D&D with will when he always kept asking, cause now he's not around.
The creators did call season 4 their Empire Strikes Back! So the whole father plot line might not be too far off the mark.
Eddie playing Doom theme song ontop of the trailer with the red lightning in the background is just so 👌🤌
After all the curveballs that caused us to have wrong assumptions like Eddie Playing music to save Nancy and Will crying with Jonathan because he revealed his love to Mike or Lucas having contacts because Venca gets him next or Will being secretive about his painting bc it's about his love for Mike after all those and many other things they had us assuming I'm not going to assume shit anymore. Just gonna look forward to next season.
Same here 😄
Thats true, those theories before volume 2 was released actually sounded like they made sense but those theories ended up being wrong 😭
Can you do top 10 things we missed in the trailer of the "I Am Groot" show?
the idea at the end about Max I love.
Considering how it all started with Will’s disappearance, the show is going to end with Will, somehow, maybe sacrificing himself to safe the town?
I think if and when Max wakes up from her coma, she is going to have powers like El’s or Vecna’s.
Kali needs to come back, especially with the gates being opened in Hawkins, El is going to need as much help as she can get.
I think Vecna is going to try to turn Will against Mike and El due to his jealousy of their relationship because he’s in love with Mike
Why is no one making the connection that Mike is Stannis Baratheon the one true king
Vecna: “Next time, aim for the head.” *snap*
Who wants to bet that if they introduce a brand new, gigantic monster, possibly with multiple heads if the dragon painting Will did is indeed foreshadowing it, that they give it the name Tiamut, after the multiheaded dragon goddess in DnD? 😁
I actually see that happening. And Vecna is controlling it.
The brand new monster could be the thesalhydra bcuz Nancy said she saw a giant creature with gaping mouth so I'm guessing it's the thesalhydra
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Eddie playing master of puppets in the upside down is the most badass thing ive ever seen on video
I wonder if info about 001, MKUltra, Eleven, and the Upside Down will all be shared with Hawkins. And if our mod-squad heroes wil be outed.
I also want Kali to come back
I think this took inspiration from Persona 5, with the merging of reality and the game of chess Vecna is playing with his victims and the Hawkinites.
What if Will is Vecna's body in our world and Max is Vecna's mind. There's a struggle between them both fighting against Vecna's influence. Anyone who dies in the Upside can become 'recruits' of Vecna's who fight for him there. In the end, as Hawkins is fighting in our world, El etc face off against Vecna's forces in the Upside, Eddie, Barb etc betray Vecna and helps our heroes win and finally close the gateway.
Can't wait to see how it finishes
I think at least 1 of the kids is going to die. Also think 1 of the older teens Steve lol
Not me hearing the song as Eddie was talking to Chrissy 😂
what if Will accidentaly saw three headed dragon in his dream which is from future but he cannot figure it out so he painted it to remember it , like in S3 mind flayer possesed Will and he took Will's help to catch eleven so he can do similar in S5 for eleven but what if Will would able to control his mind and he helped Eleven to defeat Vecna
The three headed red dragon could also be referring to Vecna who is 3 people… one, Henry creel & Vecna.
Good point!
Stranger Things is truly not just a hit but also an epic series!
There are two more rumours about Eddie. 1: Eddie is actually 010 and 010 survived Hawkins lab, Eddie also has a watch covering where the tattoo is supposed to be and he also mentioned that he had buzzed hair just like El in middle school.
2: There was a "Leaked Script" for season 5 where they all go to a shelter and right at the beginning of Episode 1 eddie gasps awake. I dont know if the fans made up all this but I sure hope eddie is alive next season.
Henry Creel: I am your Father
Eleven: That's impossible
Audience: its a Star Wars Reference
Kali could manipulate Vecna's reality, or the way the Upside Down appears, maybe even change the environment of the Upside Down itself.
Make a top 10 best Alan Silvestri scores, please.
It's funny how I binged the whole season (1-4) in just 5 days, love the show ❤️
Lmao same I just finished
The Kali (Eight) episodes are so out there I need some explanation.
9:59 - 10:05 the saddest scene of Stranger Things Season 4 and also just the whole series
Season 5 Theory: Barb returns from the time jump, as the leader of vecna’s victims that has survived in Vecna’s mind. But she doesn’t know that yet until eleven using her powers shows her what happened to her originally and then she regains all of her memory from the unaltered time line. She tells us that the reason why Vecna didn’t kill Nancy was because Barb was working her magic while alive in his psyche and able to convince him to spare her. Even in death she’s being a good friend and looking out for Nancy….But Barb, being a nerd, memorized and took notes of everything that went down while in his psyche to make a comeback and a plan to finish him. But in order to do so, they have to GO BACK to the present, because the only way to kill Vecna is through his mind. He’s too powerful physically and impossible to get to with the army he telepathically commands and keeps near him. However, even though that’s his greatest strength, it’s his greatest weakness because he’s stretched his powers too thin by simultaneously doing to many other things telepathically. Hence why they need to go inside his mind. Since Barb lives on in his head, along with all of Vecna’s other victims, she’s gathered them all as a battle hardened army that’s well trained against Vecna’s mind tricks. Eleven leads the charge in Vecna’s mind with Barb and the other Victims like Billy, Eddie(possibly), Bob, etc. Vecna fights back in his mind to survive, but also counter attacks in reality to kill eleven’s physical body as a way to stop her mental attack. While Vecna try’s to fight on both war fronts, physically and mentally, he’s spread too thin. He comes close to defeat, but the overwhelming numbers of Vecna’s physical army, they out number the gang and military. Eleven comes back to reality and realizes that the only way to kill Vecna is if she lets him kill her so that she can fully become apart of his mind, and she can concentrate all of her power from there instead of trying to telepathically do so. So she convinces the gang to run, let Vecna take her physical body and kill her, while she finishes the fight in his mind. So that’s what happens, and the gang and military fall back and counter attack to keep Vecna’s power spread thin, and eleven defeats Vecna in his mind which then kills the whole hive mind and the war ends.
Fucking door I like it I literally only read the first sentence lol but I’ll be back after reading the rest
@@maxphenomenon734 it’ll take you for a ride, you’ll love it lol.
I would rather have Eddie come back, barb was so annoying
@@ambers935 in this theory they all do since they’re all victims of Vecna and live in his mind, as Vecna said that his victims become apart of his mind. So ya Eddie would be there too.
See one thing that is an actual plot hole... When barb dies the upside down world is portrayed as very toxic to humans so you presume she would have had a very high chance of dieing after being attacked by a demegorgon. It even showed her infested with strange parasites. Later seasons ignore this environmental toxic aspect.
I hope that Vecna and the Mind Flayer’s relationship is given more nuance because to set him up as the big bad only to swap last minute with Vecna seems sloppy.
I have a theory that Terry Ives (along with Becky Ives) will make a return in Season 5 and this is why.
As everyone knows, the threat of Vecna and the Upside Down has gotten worse. I think that Eleven might be able to heal her mother, removing her from her vegetative state that Brenner placed her in. And since she healed Max (even though her consciousness is in Vecna), she could do the same for her mom.
What would her mom be able to possibly do to help against the fight tho like why would they bring her back
@@rolinn777 i mean. In the previous episodes, it says that her mother can switch the tv chanels with her mind right?
@@dionesiopalgan4491 oh I forgot bout that
didnt brenner fry her brain though, what is eleven going to do about that?
What if 001 comes to the upside down and gives 011 the power of time then she rewinds back to the start. That would be a awesome ending 😊
If we're getting a new monster from D&D, I'm hoping for a different multi-headed dragon... give me Tiamat!
I reckon when max gave everyone the letters in “dear billy” to be used as a failsafe, that those letters will somehow end up being key to beating the folk from the upside down
Now I understand all these references to a character named Kas. I have never played Dungeons & Dragons, guys!
Ok. If the theory that Karen Wheeler is Vecnas sister is true, and the theory that Vecna is 11's Dad is true.... that makes 11 and Mike first cousins... so what are we gonna do with that?
at 10:41 it sounded like mike yelled "HE KILLED MY CAT" i know he said "he was killed by kas"
😂😄😆🤣!!!!!!!! But that's very true.
Will has always been a big part of the show, but I have a huge feeling Max is going to be big in S5 as well. I just hope that no huge main character dies because I would hate the duffer brothers for ending the whole show like that.
I really want to see Max wake up. I know she will, but I just want it earlier in the show. I've always wanted Steve and Nancy to be back together, and so think they might saying how Jonathan and Nancy ended. I don't know! I'm excited! :)
" Alice isn't dead " 😁 I love that podcast
Don’t kill Steve Harrington best character of stranger things
Can you do comic book origin of Marvel's Fixer?
The only way I can see them doing a substantial time jump is if the cast is tracking down other kids with powers to defeat Vecna. I’m hoping they’re able to play off this supposed time jump… we shall see!
After rewatching season 4 I think it’s pretty obvious that Henry is elevens father
- It's possible that Brenner had everyone think that Andrew Rich is Jane's father, but wanted to hide the fact that Henry Creel is the real father. And so with Henry knowing this, that would be why he was more attached to her than the others. I really would be a Darth Vader "I am your father" moment.
- The Duffer Brothers confirmed that they won't have it reveal in the end that the show was a campaign all along. It definitely would ruin how we got invested in everything.
- I do think they'll bring Kali back. Besides Kali helping El with her powers in "The Lost Sister", it would have still felt like a waste of an episode. So I think Kali will see what's happening to Hawkins on the news and she has her gang come with her to put an end to the destruction. I think she'll use her powers to make Vecna think he successfully killed El, but then he'll realize it was a trap. However, I think Kali will sacrifice herself to save El from Vecna. With her death, it will anger El even more to kill him.
- I do think Max's consciousness is in Vecna's mind with all the other victims. So I think El is gonna have to go into Vecna's mind to save her to bring Max back to her body. With that, she could free everyone else that's there like Chrissy, Fred, Patrick, Mrs. Creel, Alice, the animals Henry killed as a kid, the lives he killed at Hawkins Lab, and possibly even the people that were used to create the monster in season 3 like Heather and her parents. They were all infected with that hive mind stuff. They were controlled. With that, I think we could see Billy there. Even though he took control of himself again in his final moments, the stuff inside him didn't get out of his body like how Nancy managed to get it out of Will in season 2. Therefore, when Billy died, I'm sure Billy took his consciousness. This is a way for us to see Billy and Max together again so they can have closure.
I want to see eddie come back as kas the vampire to defeat vecna
We want Eddie back. It would be cool if he pops up and says miss me yet? Or Eddie comes back as a vampire or entity with super powers stronger than veccna's and protects his friends and helps defeat Veccna.
I also think Vecna can see in the future, because of what he shown to Nancy (the portal opening from the Creel's house). I mean, it makes sense that they didn't want to use other plans for that scene, but in the story it means that Vecna knew what they would do. He knew Max would die in the attic of his house. So, did he know it before ? I mean, he could have easily stopped Max from leaving his mind, except if it was a play of voluntee.
But the fact that he knew Max was gonna die there while she could have died earlier in another place, could mean he saw what was gonna happen.
Also he could have destroyed Nancy, Steve and Robin, but he only stood up and went forward, while starring at them. I know he was being attacked but he could have killed them so easily.
Since we know the show has a habit of naming monsters from the Upside Down after D&D monsters, i.e. demogorgan, mind flayer and Vecna, what if the next big monster is one of the most well known by 80s kids: Bahamut.
EXACTLY! As trying once to kill bahamut and ultimately dying in the campaign from lever 4-14 over a year, I know the pain. It would make such an epic sequence. I rewatched this show with my wife who played d&f with me and never watched this show with me over 6 days and she swore the final demon was a dragon from context clues. I agreed. Would make a perfect season 5 monster along with vecna in my opinion. Always played 5e BTW. Literally you couldn’t top a major series ending without an absolute monster addition like Bahamut!!!
It’s weird that the thing their parents and everyone hates is the thing that has saved their lives every time.
I am totally on board with #9