The Sonic Duology is Inoffensively Inoffensive
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
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► Where Evil Grows (Instrumental) - The Poppy Family
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"Tails technically has super speed when using her buttcopter-"
"wait what's that?"
"TAILS IS A BOY?"
yea was just about to comment that
i mean i thought it was kinda obvious tails is a boy
@@realElectroZapi mean some people thought tails was a girl, i mean with the voice and stuff
@@snowdude8583my grandpa thought tails was a chick so chicks out
@@snowdude8583yeah but tails is naked, and none of the girl sonic characters are naked.
"If you write a terrible protagonist, at least have the other characters acknowledge he's a terrible protagonist and have him learn to be a better protagonist."
*One of the best writing tips I've ever heard!*
That's basically character development
@j.b.5422 Huh?!
As a huge Sonic fan I'm glad that even with some of its obvious flaws it wasn't able to a complete mess up the superspeed aspect with Inconsistencies...
John Cena;"are you sure about that"?
They really could have cut that wedding plot form sonic 2
@@mrscruffles801 but but… comedy and funny really annoying sister in law that everyone totally doesn’t hate…
@@mrscruffles801 oh yeah for sure but I enjoyed the film nonetheless. Hope it didn't ruin the film for you mate
@@nerd_1356 Nah I still liked it. I loved Knuckles.
If season 4 is 44 minutes for only 9 episodes. Season 7 will be a 3 week long video.
😂
Nah man s5 gonna last a month lol
@@Omen_SMK I stopped watching midway through s5 bcs of how bad it is 😂
@@yrrr4871 don’t blame you it’s a waste of time and I’m a person that’s watched flash since it’s release lol and damn it’s been a lot of time
@@Omen_SMK half of season 5 will go into detail of how stupid xs and iris are for letting xs work with Thorne even though we all know he's not to be trusted
knuckles' hesitation in that scene is very forgivable. eggman effectively had a hostage. knuckles knew that if he moved, eggman would have taken action. he could not have prevented it, so he tried reasoning first.
Also, He is pretty much still a child and the same or less experienced than sonic.
Also, Eggman was moving further from the crystal. If he continued talking, maybe he could’ve gotten him far enough away to run and stop him
He should have tossed the boulder atleast
And it’s not like he could’ve stopped him from doing it either, he’s fast, but he isn’t that fast
🤡
It’s refreshing seeing madvocate enjoy a speedster hero. While still being realistic.
When Madvocate uploads it's like Christmas, you don't know what you're getting but you already know it's gonna be epic
Saw the link and thought, "Is it my Birthday already?" 😏
🥳🎉
300th like, enjoy.
nah the meat slurping is crazyy 💀
Meh, sometimes it's the equivalent of socks
After that horrendous first poster and design, I'm kinda proud that Sonic has becoming one of the most successful and anticipated movie franchises currently at this point.
I'm honestly surprised that I'm seriously anticipating 3.
They managed to deflanderize Knuckles in 2, I'm hoping they can make Shadow less of the Edgehog that the Shadow game made him out to be.
@@calemr well the director for the first 2 sonic movies said that Shadow was gonna be emotionally damaged
@@calemr The Sonic movie writers are amazing with their characters. Tails isn't entirely some coward who relies on Sonic. Knuckles isn't a dumb meat head protecting an emerald. Just a culturally inexperienced guardian. I can guarantee Shadow will focus less on his edginess. They made him look far more like Sonic, so he's lost some of that edge. Quite literally.
@@raheemaslam7363 I mean, you would be too if you saw a little girl killed in front of you by the feds
@@raheemaslam7363 Well he's supposed to be
SA 2 Shadow has amnesia and the only thing he knows for sure is that his sister is dead
"you're not following me on twitter"
who in their right mind even has a twitter.
key word here being right mind
Madvocate should feel proud most of his audience have much better things to do than hang out on twitter.
Mlon Eusk
Me, but I only use it for animal videos, gifs, and pics (ACTUAL animals) and dope art, pirn ir otherwise
7:54 This can be explained! Knuckles froze because Eggman was the only person he ever trusted. The old hunters he was with had originally captured him in the prologue comic and forced him to fight in a tournament for his life. He’s been traveling through galaxies with enemies, and Eggman was the only person he could depend on, thinking he had formed a bond between them. I like how they take inspiration from the Sonic 3 and Knuckles games. Great video!
There's a prequel comic?
@@egg7540 there is! ^^
@@_knucklehead where can i find it
@@egg7540 you can always search up Sonic movie 2 prologue comic
Well it's external media and thus Shouldn't be considered for the movie, but even then it's quite a small flaw and he mentioned that it likely wouldn't do much anyway
"Wait, Tails is a boy?!"
OMG, this cracked me up
Jeb's comments at 9:54 also left me rolling on the ground.
Yeah, Colleen O'Shaughnessy still sounds like a woman.
@@erikbihari3625 He's been voiced by women in almost every game at this point
And i agree with it so much.
I thought Tails was a girl for like a decade before my sister told me
@@mrscruffles801. I know, but they still sound like woman. Have any previous ones convinced you?
@@erikbihari3625 yep, I hate that tails is vices by a woman because it’s extremely obvious
The Sonic duology is a masterpiece. We need a CW live action Sonic show.
Nice one dude!
Hello there
Sheevtalks is a masterpiece. We need a CW live actions Sheevtalks show.
Knuckles freezing can be explained by: He still thinks that eggman is his friend and he would want to listen what he wants to say but whatever
And he could be in shocked at the hate and vitriol being spat out by Eggman
Yeah Knuckles might've just been trying to resort to reasoning since Robotnik is already too close to the emerald.
Yay another Madvocate video
ikr. I love it when he uploads!
@@shinichiizumi2242 Same.
"The Sonic Duology is Inoffensively Inoffensive"
Barry: Yes We Did it! Madvocate would No Longer Target Flash 😈
The next video: 💀
Madvocate: 😏😞💀
When I say this is the best part of my day you know it’s a shit day, still even an 11 minute Madvocate video is a W
I spent nearly the entire last year whenever here, coming, constantly clamouring for coverage on these movies. And now he finally delivered so don't be sad! You too?
Language
he really called us out in the beginning 🤣. I don't follow anyone on Twitter but I only knew bc he mentioned it during his last live video
Same. I don't even have Twitter 😂
@Shoreline Fishing I guess we're fake fans then🤧
Same
Who even uses Twitter unironically
@@HateshWarkio degenerates 😳
You know I love your deep analysis and ripping into CW Flash, but its just incredibly feel good to do the same with something that isn’t god awful and be able to hear as many (well more) compliments as criticisms.
Agreed. There needs to be some positivety every now and gain too!
About Knuckles...
I guess the feeling of betrayal made him freeze in disbelief?
Also, someone said that Knuckles is not stupid, he is naïve. I clarify this because it is a common misconception about the character.
Sonic Boom has had terrible ramifications on the franchise.
@@Trakesh The game or the show?
@@vienalicaway2585…
Both.
@@Trakesh the dumbing down of Knuckles happened before boom, it's just boom is the worst example of it because it was at it's apex. Frontiers and this movie is helping to reel it back.
To add to the thing about Knuckles freezing up, it's important to remember that in the Sonic movies Knuckles spent most of his life alone and ignorant of most social concepts like friendship. It's entirely possible that, to him, the idea that Eggman would backstab him after helping him as much as he did was inconceivable and he bluescreened for a moment trying to process it. Unlike the Flash where Barry spends a full minute letting every villain monologue or escape for no particular reason, Knuckles at least has the excuse of possibly not having enough experience with other beings to comprehend what was going on or that Eggman intended to betray him from the start.
*5:50*
_Why is it that everytime Ben Schwartz Plays a superhero he gets lectured for doing the things wrong?_
-Randy
-Leo
-Dewey
-Sonic
Glad to see you worked so hard on this video! It’s a work of art!
Do your thing man, take your time. I want more Flash videos but if you get sick of making them i'll still watch your other stuff.
In spite of presenting himself otherwise, I bet he loves tearing it apart so don't worry about that!
Hopefully the 3rd movie will also be good since that one will add a another Speedster who is as fast as Sonic.
Shadows gonna be in the 3rd film
The cgi is going to be crazy with the amount of haxs shadow does regularly.
@@sliceninja4546yeah if we see a shadow vs sonic fight its gonna be crazy with the cgi, i hope we see super sonic vs super shadow also like in sonic x
I have good news for you. It's peak.
After 7 morbillion years when madvocate will release flash S9 video i will finally be able to die peacefully
The last criticism I will note has an actual in-universe explanation: Sonic was drunk on power and not thinking very clearly. It was even directly lampshaded by Knuckles that they had no idea if Sonic would go berserk or not now that he was Super Sonic. In the end it's revealed that he's still fully in control of himself, but his earlier stupid mistakes can be forgiven and explained as him just, not really thinking things through while suddenly going from "nearly dead" to "practically an incarnate god".
madvocate subtly admitting he was mistaken when he claimed the flash didn't get worse after season 3.
Jay Exci, Hbomberguy, Some More News,
and maybe Mauler.
They literally all do what Madvocate does to 'The Flash'.
@@loturzelrestaurant Don't watch any of those guys, and don't know why you're bringing it up, I like his flash videos.
@@controversialopinion5722 More of what you like
I'm surprised you never addressed the break-dancing scene in the second movie. I like the scene because it's entertaining, but makes no sense lore-wise since we know Sonic is capable of dispatching an entire room of people in less time than anyone can process. Why bother dancing? Just steal the map!
(I know it's meant to be a bonding moment for Sonic and Tails)
Also, that Olive Garden ad at the beginning caught me off guard. xD
Yeah, I'm surprised he didn't talk about that. Sonic somehow got grabbed when he's shown that he can blitz everyone in that room before they even move
looking forward to when you talk about 3, it's definitely the best one yet :)
7:45 "Look up Sonic inflation for more info."
Madvocate, I think I'll pass ... this incredible reveal onto someone else! Holy cow, it's legit y'all!
10:21 False, Sonic's middle name is "The"
7:49 You, my friend, *are delightfully twisted.*
Devils Advocate: Sonic doesn't want to leave Green Hill, so I think his stalling on leaving can sort of be justified as him dragging his feet on purpose.
But if that's what they were going for, they definitely could have shown it better.
Yeah. But if I was being nitpicky l would of said that. I mean with the flash show something in similar situations if Barry was stalling he would’ve nitpicked that and said they should’ve shown it better.
Jeb was very much in character in this video so I approve 👍🏻
Sonic Movie 1 & 2 are far superior to every Season of CW's The Flash.
Cool Video Madvocate.
Hardly a high bar.
I've wiped my ass with things better written than CW's The Flash.
Specifically, the instruction manual to Soul Calibur 4.
Yes but like no
Let's not go that fare, the whole q.t.e. stuff he ripped off from quicksilver is infuriating.
@@randomgamingtv5322 yes but like yes.
@@erikbihari3625 eh, it exists honestly is the way I look at it, very inoffensive tbh. If anything I have more of an issue with both movies is the lack of proper Sonic Tunes.
I feel This guy would have a field day with the sonic Archie comics
4:08 I wouldn't say it's Cinema but I do like when Sonic first grabs one and then he starts sliding on two of them and then he grabs another one and then back flips on whatever vehicle that is.
bro dropped the biggest pyrocynical reference ever
Eggman isn't actually a feminist. That piece of trivia in the sonic heroes manual was mistranslated. It's supposed to say that he is a womaniser. Sonics middle name also isn't Maurice, if anything, we have reasons to believe that his real name isn't actually sonic.
Depends on canon. His middle name is Maurice in the Archie comics and in Sonic Prime. In Boom they made multiple jokes about his name being Capable.
In standard game canon, he doesn't have a middle name. And Sonic IS his actual name in all canons. In Archie there was an idea for his real name to be Olgilvie, but it got scrapped.
And before someone starts, his name was NEVER Mister Needlemouse. That was a mistranslation.
@Aᴍᴀʀᴛʜᴀʀ Dʀᴀᴋᴇsᴛᴏɴᴇ i know his name was maurice in the older comics, but this has led people to believe that this is applicable to the main series of games, and in those this wss never mentioned. Although the maurice being canon is a bit dubious now, because supposedly sonic prime is in continuity with the games.
Also, to elaborate, I think Sonic could actually be a nickname instead of being his "legal" name. For example, Tails' real name is Miles prower, which is formated like a normal name, then the sonic CD manual says that Amy's real name is rosy the rascal, or how SA2 commits to the robotnik family name for eggman. It seems to me that "X the Y" is some sort of title for these characters.
Apparently the working name was Mr. Hedgehog.
@@LenamLorbington That could be the case if all other anthropomorphic animal characters didn't follow the same pattern of "Name the Animal". Knuckles the Echidna, Shadow the Hedgehog, Blaze the Cat, Cream the Rabbit, Shade the Echidna, Big the Cat, Sticks the Jungle Badger, Marine the Raccoon, Jet the Hawk, Vector the Crocodile... If Sonic was the odd one out, then you could have a point that Sonic the Hedgehog is not his real name. But it's Amy and Tails who are the odd ones. And Tails' name implies that the nickname is in quotes between the given and family name, as his is almost always shown as Miles 'Tails' Prower.
And Sonic Prime was not confirmed by Sega nor Sonic Team to be canon. It was only said by Logan McPherson - *one* of the shows executive producers. I don't know about you, but I'm not taking words of Hollywood exec over the creators of the franchise.
@@AmartharDrakestone Wait that was confirmed in prime. Bruh can't we just forget about Ken Penders.
Sonic the hedgehog is a masterpiece and needs a live action CW show
True
No, CW shouldn't touch anything else...
I shall appreciate the update. I look forward to the flash.
"Madvocate postpones the Flash video by a week if someone asks about it"
Me: I'm about to do what's called a "Pro gamer" move
You reaaaaally snuck in that sonic inflation bit there.
This was a really good video, Madvocate! Wasn’t expecting this video at all. Keep up the good work man! ❤
@Textthenumberabover121no.
I almost shat myself when you said "her butt-copter" to which I promptly responded out loud "his lmao" that was so trippy wtf
I feel like the master emerald scene would’ve been fixed if knuckles simply jumped towards eggman as he was grabbing the emerald
7:49 you cheeky mf with your sonic inflation 😂
I dont follow any youtuber on any social media, but Im a real fan of you, really like your humor, Im happy that you are doing the 4 season, wanna watch very much ❤️
I hadn’t heard he’s releasing a season four video, that’s awesome.
The Madvocate is an advocate of madness, because he did it again and surprised me by posting a video. What a mad lad!
You know the funny thing is that the movie wasn't even sponsored by Olive Garden. They just decided to make that General a massive advocate of them for some reason.
How did I not see this video? I’ve been subscribed and somehow missed this.
Can't wait to see you discuss about Sonic Movie 3 a year later. It's going to adapt one of its greatest games: Sonic Adventure 2. And oh my gawd, if they follow through with the dark material your in for one hell of ride.
I can forgive Knuckles standing to watch because he's probably shocked about feeling betrayed by a """friend""" for the first time. Not a perfect argument, but it's something?
A 44 minute "teaser" sounds worth paying for
I cant wait for my grandchildren to enjoy the season 5 video. Madvocate's upload schedule is truly on par with that of icons like Ceeday and Internet Historian.
I mean...are you gonna make something like that. Tons of effort. I appriciate that he's even doing it, and also that he even had an option for those who wanted a partial watch early
@@theAstarrr Of course, I only mean to poke fun. I obviously appreciate his willingness to suffer for our entertainment.
@@creativename724 ah cool. It’s hard to tell when someone’s joking when you only have text (no voice inflections, tone, etc)
I think they forgot that doughnut lord was still supposed to be under the foot in that scene
I mean if we look closely the robots foot slightly moves backwards after Sonic shoots through it. I just assumed that Sonic was able to make the robot back away from Tom and Maddie.
5:31 I like that marza animated the after images when he was juggling the pipe bomb (BTW the studio that does the cgi for these movies also has been doing the intro cinematics for sonic gams since Shadow The Hegdehog and every game after that)
I can’t wait to hear about the scene where Barry moves by…standing still
That's going to be f* cking hilrious( I can't wait to see madvocate go back to the times it would've been useful in the previous seasons 😂)
I can't wait
Hey wait till a child dies in the 3rd film okay?
0:13 you expect us to use Twitter. Why would we ever do that lmao
Twitter is the worst popular social media platform.
I'll be patient, your videos are gold.
You started the series, and now you're obligated to finish it. That's your legacy.
Fun fact:
Eggman is not, in fact, a Feminist.
That was a mistranslation.
He is a *womanizer* according to the original Japanese.
Please, don't google sonic inflation, this man is a menace.
There is no way I sat through the olive garden thinking it was a bit but to just be greeted with lasagna
7:51 Thank you for the informative content. I will be looking further into the Inflation caused by the Sonic movie by looking up “Sonic Inflation”.
I feel bad for the people who actually looked up "Sonic Inflation"
Yeah lol, i have never seen that, but i do know what the internet is like. So when i heard it, i knew that it wouldnt be the best thing to google that lmao
I wanted this video so much. I needed this video so much. I have been looking for this. I finally found this.
Wake up babe, new madvocate video dropped
All this time and you didn't knew tails was a boy??? Wow.
Other people: Where is the Flash Season 4 video?
Me: Man, a video about Makkari from the Eternals would be pretty nice.
The Sonic Pre-Quill comic shows that Sonic can lift a person just fine, even catching them after they fall from a significant height, so he can relocate people at superspeed if he wanted.
External media, doesn't count.
Also we don't even know if that comic is canon because none of the events there are referenced in the sequel.
@@Mortimer_RS It’s canon. It’s literally a prequel comic that explains the events leading up to the movie.
@@RealBroccoliHourExternal. Media. Doesnt. Count.
now that flash is over, madvocate has gotta review all of the seasons
I don't think he'll make it past season 5
I hope to see one later for the Sonic 3 movie now, im curious if it handles the super speed alright like the first two.
Same
I'd say it does
Honestly surprised that Madvocate didn't use the usual gunshot meme at the end to shut him up lol 😂
“Tails is a Boy?!?” 😂
yes
Madvocate is a hero by making videos about all the speedsters
I really hope the third in coming film follows the same speed consistancy that the 2 films established.
I'm not going to tolerate you shaming me for not being a Twitter user.
You're the only UA-camr who I can watch till the end and not get bored and move on
When Madvocate uploads, its like watching endless fireworks.
The Entire 2 Parts of the sonic movie beats all the flash seasons ALONE
I rlly enjoyed this one hope u do more shortmans in the future
I didn't expect this to secretly be a flash video
Tails’s name is literally Miles my guy
I disagree with the point about his cutting off the Eggmechs head. Because Sonic probably saw where it was going to land and if it was about to land on anyone, he could have used his speed and strength to catch it. But since there was no one there, he didn't need to.
Though I would agree with the point of Sonic just going through Eggmechs foot instead of moving it out of the way so his parents wouldn't get crushed.
Yesssss Madvocate posts.
My mood 🆙
my ball is fully loaded for the season 4 video.
yayyyyy I can't wait for the next flash video
I love the fact that two family comedy movies handle super speed better than nine seasons of CW's biggest super hero show and the main team up movie in the DCEU.
Madvocate upload, lets fucking go
The Olive Garden ad took me out bruh💀 for the context of the video it’s too funny
I still use "Don't stop to talk, don't stop to talk, don't stop to talk, don't stop to talk, " everyday 😄
He didn’t point out the fact that he wasn’t able to jump up the building at the end of the movie
Editing top notch as always.
me who passionately waits for any video madvocate makes :)
7:13 that's the sound of a man having to delete some photos
See it's possible to have a good speedster movie
Your comedic timing and deadpan never fails to impress. The fact that you are much better at comedy than the likes of Lilly Singh, a supposed professional comedian, speaks volumes about how great you are.
Thanks for letting us UA-cam-only-goers know about the progress of the season 4 video.
Also this is a good video too.
I honestly didn't know or care if you were making a vid for Flash season 4, cause I absolutely love every video you make.