Unfortunately most loggers/lumberjacks make very little money and is in fact one of the worst paid professions, while also being the single most dangerous
@@JW-bx6ig Really,i used to make good money in the 80s and 90s,cutting Australian hardwood on tonnage rates,mind it was dangerous and very hot in the summer,with bull ants and poisonous spiders and Tiger snakes,!
I viewed a Swiss chalet they have bisected and placed in the museum of the Germanic Peoples, sort of the Smithsonian of the Germanic Peoples, in Nuremburg, and all the rafters and every inch of wood therein is carved with depictions of stags, vines, etc. I think the person must have started carving the beams for his future house when he was still young? At first, I thought maybe he just spent every winter woodcarving, but then I wondered how he was able to carve the rafters above the firepit in winter? Wouldn't it be hot and too uncomfortable to carve ceiling rafters after they were already in place? This thing is thousands of years old.
These aren't men that don't have any other skills these are men who enjoy what they do, and one to protect the environment my hats off to everyone of you and May God keep you safe and everything you do for the rest of us.
Jan 19, 2020: I dedicate this video to Sgt Manuel R. Martinez, 23, who was killed in an auto accident on Aug 22, 1975 south of Santa Fe. Driving back to Albuquerque after a long week at the Farmington mines, he lost control on I-25 and rolled his 240Z Datsun. He trained as a Marine at Camp Pendleton (radio operator), served a year in Okinawa and was a member of the VFW and Carpenters Union. (The new sports car would prove to be more deadly than the mining industry.) Manuel graduated from West Mesa High School in 1970 and participated in track & field. His shy grin, warm heart, gentle spirit and strong work ethic were endearing traits. Logging is dangerous work....Manuel never ran from a challenge either. Blessings, KATRINA
This could easily be a multi part series. A lot was left out of the log to lumber process that is really interesting to watch. A good show nonetheless. Cheers from B.C.
I grew up in a small Washington state town where there were lots of gypo loggers and Weyerhaeuser also. My Dad had a Talkie Tooter shop so we worked with loggers all the time. I loved going to landings and watch them work and even got to watch helicopter 🚁 logging. I miss seeing all the crummies go through town and partying with the crews getting off work.
Very informative, and makes me appreciated everything we make from wood...here in California having a logging operation of this scale is near impossible with all the regulation in this state..the trade off is the devastating wildfires we have every year that kill innocent civilians, destroying thousands of acres of wildland, destroying natural habitat, and polluting our ground water....when all we needed to do is rake the forest and thin out the trees..
❤❤ beautiful Omgoodness im in love with this place.. I've been falling wood but nothing of this magnitude.. Up most respect too those fallers there on the coast. I only thought relic was the last of the beach combers lol awesome stuff guy.
Pretty common layout for a west coast workboat. Kinda surprised it's only got a 75 on it...but it is an ex tow-boat so it's probably got the bigger gearcase.
I have built many a house with this wood thanks guys for keeping us supplied.As long as these sites are reliable planted I don't see a problem.Some of th these Forest are so overgrown that nothing new on the bottom can grow clear cutting a site makes for a healthier Forest as long as it's prepared properly a new healthy Forest will grow and it only takes a few years.
When your garden grows you harvest the ripe stuff and clean it out to make way for the new....this makes for a healthy garden! A forest is no different! Instead of letting it burn utilize it. Proper practices yeild healthy forests!
do u actually think that a garden like that is like nature.. in nature old stuff dies and feeds the next generation.. by taking stuff out u remove essential stuff and things like resources get depleted... u can have a good look at farmers... over here the farmers land is sinking about 5 inches every decade... they have to keep making ground water lower so all the land isnt underwater... how is that sustainable?
This. We’ve owned large chunks of forest in my family for generations. Once every 50 or 60 years or so it gets cut down, we get some money, you get some furniture and we plant some new trees. It’s done section wise over long periods of time, always making sure that there is enough forest left for wild animals. It doesn’t harm the environment.
We need more logging roads they clear a large path to keep forest fires under control, some people have a hard time understanding that importance. Hate to see these large out of control fires burning so many acres on the News
Fantastic and riveting video log of the men who work the waterways hauling, scavenging and managing the lumber of Vancouver Island. Hardscrabble and dangerous, you bet... and...ain't a snowflake millennial dude to be seen among 'em. Thank you for this rewarding story.
Great documentary and thanks to the forest industry and for all the lumberjacks for providing us with all kinds of wood. But I am totally against cutting down ancient 500 to 1200 year old trees. There should be a limit on the diameter size of trees to cut.
Cool to see a documentary about the place I live. The Mahata River area is spectacular, even with the logging there is just so much wilderness there you have to see it to appreciate it. And the scenery coming down the inside passage is next to none. By the way almost all those beautiful tree covered mountains have been logged at one time or even two.
@@ant-1382 my mistake I thought you said " cool to see a documentary about the place I live " We lived in the married quarters for seven years, great place to raise a family.
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The Scaler said "the deck is stacked", and he's for damned sure right! Mill owners own the rule book and own the elected man who they bought and paid for. From the fallers, choker setters, tug operators, to the mill workers and truckers - they're are all cogs in the wheel. Don't fault them for making a living! There's plenty other guys will take those job if they decide standing timber is more noble than feeding their family. The only truth that remains is the paychecks and size of the logs both get smaller every year.
@@alstewart1186 Yep! It was the timber barons themselves that fought so hard AGAINST the creation of the National Forests, but they found many ways to steal it anyway, other than paying $1.80 and acre to buy the land itself like Weyerhaeuser did.
Trees are cut down, not "chopped" A facility that processes logs into lumber is a sawmill, not a factory People who cut trees down are loggers. "Lumberjack" is rarely used.
Not true ..they harvest the seeds from were the trees grew ..and grow the seedlings in nurseries and plant them back were they were harvest from ..so they have the same genetics of the same area...and more animals come in a new forest than in a old decitive one...in some cases selective harvesting would apply ...but that's mostly in hardwoods
4ourfutureinfinity and monoculture is a thing of the past and an exaggeration by you. Is it a monoculture when nature seeds in with,say, hemlock which colonizes disturbed areas as a pioneering specie? If landowners thin to promote diversity in the stand is that an abomination to you?
God bless the men who brave the hard places to make a living for their families and provide us with all the products we use in our daily lives. If God didnt want us to use the resources he would have done things quite different I am sure. Todays logging industry is very pro active in making sure we have a renewable resource and forests for generations to come. Yes I am a logger now in my 50's and am proud to say im a 7th generation Logger/ Timber Feller and our Son and Daughter are both following in our footsteps. Our Son is following my footsteps and our Daughter is set to graduate college with a masters degree in forestry and will go on to her waiting position with the USFS so you see this family trees roots go deep but also are headed to the future preservation and protection of our Forests.
I never met a "lumberjack" on the island or even up coast. I have met and worked with thousands of LOGGERS there though. Lumberjacks stopped at the midwest.
Kyle Roush ‘lumberjack’ is more of a midwest term for a logger ( common in Michigan and Wisconsin 100+ years ago ). My grandfather logged 100 years ago, but referred to himself as a ‘lumberjack’, he never worked in a saw mill.
@@highwatercircutrider So it just comes down to people being petty about which term is used even if they mean the same thing. I've seen that a lot, especially in my area.
I worked trees as a climber for 15 years and doing it - same as wildland firefighting, which I also did - people who don't do it make such a big deal out of it that it becomes almost fetishistic. For the most part, the people I worked with just thought of it as their job, and rarely as something that was noble or that we were doing that others we're afraid to do or incapable of (though when I was leading fire crews, if I had people who needed to be encouraged, I would remind them of that, so they knew it about themselves). Typically, though, the people that made a big deal out of it or made it their identities were people who didn't last. Something would happen that shook their faith in it and they would lose faith in themselves and have to quit (with a few exceptions). For the rest of us, it was just work that we had come to, typically by accident or because we knew someone who recommended we try it. These shows play up something that in a sense makes the work impossible to do. I would ask the people who are most interested in watching these shows instead to find these things inside themselves. Go camp more and really leave behind the things you think you need. It's usually the idea of finding courage or endurance that people are really fetishizing, and there isn't really a need. All of those things are in them, too. Need is all it takes to cultivate them.
In the late 1800's Pennsylvania was clear cut from corner to corner. So we're the Adirondack mountains in NY. Go to Google Earth and hover over both states and see what they look like today. Trees are a crop.
Some of you might like to watch a film about a logging family, The film is called "Never Give An Inch" or "Sometimes A Great Notion" (same film). Written by Ken Kesey and starring Paul Newman and Henry Fonda. The ending will hit you where you live. The story is a family that logs but does not go on strike with everyone else and sparks fly. Very good flick.
cravinbob agreed. I grew up in Oregon, that movie is just beautiful and nostalgic for me. There’s a special feeling working in the timber and running the rivers.
Great story. I'm a Vancouverite & have spent many years watching the logging of BC forests. This is genuinely the end of logging as we've known it! I prey Hemp will fill the farmer's fields to give our forests a break! Hemp can do much more than wood could ever dream of. Great story all the same! BRAVO. Sending positive vibes your way. PEACE LOVE & DREAMS!🇨🇦 💞🌐📷🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌎💚🌍💜🌏🍁🍃🍂✌💕💭🎬😉
Logging and selling our whole logs to Asia and elsewhere is in my opinion ripping off jobs and our economy. The reason i understand they want our whole logs is they cut ll of theirs. The same reason we are losing our turtles here in the SE US. They all being collected and shipped to Asian countries as they have over collected their turtles for food. I am not against responsible logging, but I am against clear cutting or over harvesting. I also beleive some areas should be preserved as old growth primeval forest. enjoyed the documentary.
The thing with timber is that when you cut down a tree and make something with the wood, you'd storing all that carbon in that timber. All the carbon the tree absorbed over time, stored, not in the atmosphere. Planting more trees absorbs more carbon. And so on, and so forth. There is actually a positive side effect of using timber, and therefore cutting down trees. I confess, I feel a sense of sadness for those big old trees but that is because I apply a human time scale to them and think they are so ancient. They're pretty young in the greater scheme of life on planet earth. Just some perspective.
andrewford80 I feel sad for the old trees too. It seems sacrilegious to destroy something so ancient - something that is the oldest living thing on earth.
"Only in BC do they transport wood in this fashion", rafting, That is funny. I live near the Puget Sound, I have seen plenty of wood rafts here. My GG grandfather was doing it over a hundred years ago. Look up the book Cutting Across Time, it is on Amazon. This was in MN and WI. I love it when docs get the facts wrong.
Those guys running on the log rafts gave me the pucker factor just watching, here in Manitoba we just don't get very big trees but I love seeing the boys on the coast doing their thing. Hats off and be safe.
Hello! I really loved watching this video and I'd like to write Spanish subtitles so its content may be available for more people, it's just that I am not sure how It works. Let me know if you are interested.
Geez, I remember when a Timber-jack was a logger and a Lumber-jack was a saw mill worker handling lumber. If you called a timber-jack a lumber-jack; he would straigten you out and same with the lumber-jack being called a timber-jack..
Well, sir, we did purchase our dining-room set ourselves (a granite--topped table, I don't know what kind of wood the wood parts are, but almost all the rest of our stuff is second-hand,) secondhand dressers, secondhand livingroom sofa, couch, chair and endtables, and we moved into an old house; not a new build. What makes me mad is all the new builds going up when there exist plenty of old houses and fixer-uppers availiable. People are soooo fickle. Our old house has only one bathroom , iswhy it was not selling and we obtained it relatively cheaply.
I bet places in California wish they had managed their trees more often.When you shut down the timber industry you can be sure the bugs and fire will eventually get them anyways.Before industry, fires were the management of nature.
the beachcomber Eric was great. Seemed to be s great life. Not everybody could do this that's for sure. Did I hear him incorrectly saying it was not a good haul that day but was worth $6,500 ?
bet they live in houses made of wood or from materials that are not consumed by the ground such as plastic and rubber which takes how long to compost ? a tree will only grow so long for the most part until it dies and is no good
@@debbiehahn5622 lol vinyl or plastic siding is unstable from heat cold expanding and contracting look at vinyl siding at 30 degrees and at 90 degrees and tell me how much it expands might be better if they actually recycled plastic instead if almost all going to the dump other than plastic bottles
@@MyHMMWVaddiction not really it isnt and can you imagine the expense to build a house from steel ? trees and lumber are renewable how about digging giant holes for more iron mines iron and steel has its place but not feesible in home construction
I work in logging in Northern CA. The landowners largely determine which trees to cut, not the loggers themselves. Also to get the best timber quality requires old growth trees and old growth logging is pretty much over, at least compared to what it used to be here in the states.
I've watched the quality decline in framing lumber on the west coast over the last 40 years: it has nothing to do with grading. It's the fact that we're shipping out all of our premium lumber as raw logs. It was mentioned at the end of the video but not covered in nearly enough depth. We have politicians who can't think beyond an election cycle and see hot building markets in Asia as a source for raw logs to be milled at much lower (labour) cost in their own countries. We need to charge tarriffs on exported logs to reduce that advantage to bring jobs back to Canada and realize the full economic value of our resources. Perhaps ironically, most of the lumber available for purchase in BC is imported.
@@yearginclarke In BC (Canada in general) we have 1/10 the population, 1/3 more land and about 75 fewer years of industrialization than the US. We have a completely different system than private landowners selling their own timber (that's a rarity) Logging in BC typically happens on Crown (public) land with royalties (stumpage) being paid to the Crown (public purse) based on the volume of timber available for harvest as assessed by the Crown. Coupled with that is a requirement to replant in accordance with government (not industry) guidelines. As a result, the clear cuts that some like to parade as a travesty are tomorrow's plantation blocks. It's also pretty common to have never-logged forest within economically-feasible range of processing given the steep terrain and proximity to the ocean. Fortunately we've been able to see what's happened elsewhere and as a result our forestry practices are regulated by the provincial government. Individual governments may drop the ball to garner votes, but the regulatory framework means that we can adjust harvesting practices within the context of other concerns in real time (that's bureaucratic 'real-time' of course:)
@yearginclarke Yep, I got that you were in CA. I was trying to point out the differences between what I perceived you were describing vs the regime as it is here. We export far too many of our resources without processing, just in general. We buy a lot of lumber and ply from the US specifically because we are exporting what we produce for the sake of a quick buck...but that deficit pays for social programs like 'free' daycare. I'd like to see a tariff applied to the export of raw logs to bring it up to the cost of those logs having been processed here (which is the entire point of tariffs). Of course, the Chinese are buying up mills here wherever they can, which means they can just mill it here and dodge any potential sanction.
I have a lot of respect for these men. What a sense of satisfaction they must have at the end of every day. They definitely earn their money.
Unfortunately most loggers/lumberjacks make very little money and is in fact one of the worst paid professions, while also being the single most dangerous
@@JW-bx6ig Really,i used to make good money in the 80s and 90s,cutting Australian hardwood on tonnage rates,mind it was dangerous and very hot in the summer,with bull ants and poisonous spiders and Tiger snakes,!
I make pretty decent money on Vancouver Island, maybe it’s different in other countries but logging pays pretty good in Canada.
This makes me appreciate the various wood items in my home. Amazing work here.
I viewed a Swiss chalet they have bisected and placed in the museum of the Germanic Peoples, sort of the Smithsonian of the Germanic Peoples, in Nuremburg, and all the rafters and every inch of wood therein is carved with depictions of stags, vines, etc. I think the person must have started carving the beams for his future house when he was still young? At first, I thought maybe he just spent every winter woodcarving, but then I wondered how he was able to carve the rafters above the firepit in winter? Wouldn't it be hot and too uncomfortable to carve ceiling rafters after they were already in place? This thing is thousands of years old.
I manufacture Stihl guide bars in Virginia, lot of respect to these lumberjack. Now that's hard work.
These aren't men that don't have any other skills these are men who enjoy what they do, and one to protect the environment my hats off to everyone of you and May God keep you safe and everything you do for the rest of us.
Jan 19, 2020: I dedicate this video to Sgt Manuel R. Martinez, 23, who was killed in an auto accident on Aug 22, 1975 south of Santa Fe. Driving back to Albuquerque after a long week at the Farmington mines, he lost control on I-25 and rolled his 240Z Datsun. He trained as a Marine at Camp Pendleton (radio operator), served a year in Okinawa and was a member of the VFW and Carpenters Union. (The new sports car would prove to be more deadly than the mining industry.) Manuel graduated from West Mesa High School in 1970 and participated in track & field. His shy grin, warm heart, gentle spirit and strong work ethic were endearing traits. Logging is dangerous work....Manuel never ran from a challenge either. Blessings, KATRINA
This could easily be a multi part series. A lot was left out of the log to lumber process that is really interesting to watch. A good show nonetheless.
Cheers from B.C.
Great documentary showing in detail the journey of a log
i'm logger in 3th generation, and i'm so damn proud of it.
it's not just a job, it's a way of life.
very great logumentary🤘
treedevil01 can I call u daddy?
What's 3th? Wouldn't it be 3rd
Your an idiot. Plain and simple.
I grew up in a small Washington state town where there were lots of gypo loggers and Weyerhaeuser also. My Dad had a Talkie Tooter shop so we worked with loggers all the time. I loved going to landings and watch them work and even got to watch helicopter 🚁 logging. I miss seeing all the crummies go through town and partying with the crews getting off work.
Wow, u dont care abt trees. If trees get burnt down, they contribute to global warming and marine pollution
Very nice documentary. We all lead such different lives.
We Do Sweetheart!
Very informative, and makes me appreciated everything we make from wood...here in California having a logging operation of this scale is near impossible with all the regulation in this state..the trade off is the devastating wildfires we have every year that kill innocent civilians, destroying thousands of acres of wildland, destroying natural habitat, and polluting our ground water....when all we needed to do is rake the forest and thin out the trees..
You want trees , Cal. Have huge amount of dead standers as well as down timber, the bark beetle, killed huge swaths of trees
@@ronsmith251 why wait for them to die and be beetle killed? All of which makes forest fires more likely.
“Just gonna send it” is a consistent attitude here and so love it! Hahaha
To maintain a good health of the forests, cutting trees is a must!
Yet oddly enough, the place was carpeted with fabulous forests when we arrived. It's almost as if forests evolved to survive on their own.
forest grows fine without mans interference has for millions of years - where are the largest and tallest trees ? In old growth forest.
duett 445 but where we’ve cut management is a must. You would have people believe there’s no old growth left, though, so we have to manage it all.
❤❤ beautiful Omgoodness im in love with this place..
I've been falling wood but nothing of this magnitude.. Up most respect too those fallers there on the coast.
I only thought relic was the last of the beach combers lol awesome stuff guy.
I love that beachcombers boat...clean, tough design.
Pretty common layout for a west coast workboat.
Kinda surprised it's only got a 75 on it...but it is an ex tow-boat so it's probably got the bigger gearcase.
Loggers, tugboats, beautiful timber and beautiful scenery....I’m in heaven. Lol 😂
This business has pretty much died in the last 6 months.. We have a Dim like gov here.. Mild Communists.. Against just about everything!
I have built many a house with this wood thanks guys for keeping us supplied.As long as these sites are reliable planted I don't see a problem.Some of th these Forest are so overgrown that nothing new on the bottom can grow clear cutting a site makes for a healthier Forest as long as it's prepared properly a new healthy Forest will grow and it only takes a few years.
It is amazing to see the advancements in forestry and the ways folks work ever so hard for their existence. Fantastic film, Thank you and Be Well
Was rasied in a family of loggers. Its damn hard work. And both my dad and uncle have had some crazy close calls
Great video much appreciated many thanks from Ireland
Hard work, and all very honorable people who know who they are , and belong to their inheritance.
wonderful documentary. Was sad when it was over! Fun to watch.
i would kill to work a job like this. these guys have real balls
These here are real men.. You know back when men were men and women were glad they were!!
@Dacia Sandero guys oh good lord.hard to believe people still think and speak like this!
Back before when men had dicks and not mangina
@@alanrhyason put your money where your mouth is.
Note to beachcomber. Pull in the timber that won't sell, build some cabins on your property & run a vacation rental.
amazing story thanks .. to all in and out of the cameras eyes ..
Wonderful documentary.
This was an awesome documentary. Great job!!!
When your garden grows you harvest the ripe stuff and clean it out to make way for the new....this makes for a healthy garden! A forest is no different! Instead of letting it burn utilize it. Proper practices yeild healthy forests!
do u actually think that a garden like that is like nature.. in nature old stuff dies and feeds the next generation.. by taking stuff out u remove essential stuff and things like resources get depleted... u can have a good look at farmers... over here the farmers land is sinking about 5 inches every decade... they have to keep making ground water lower so all the land isnt underwater... how is that sustainable?
Plus I really doubt they are pulling all these stumps out. Thatd be suck a massive job.
This. We’ve owned large chunks of forest in my family for generations. Once every 50 or 60 years or so it gets cut down, we get some money, you get some furniture and we plant some new trees. It’s done section wise over long periods of time, always making sure that there is enough forest left for wild animals. It doesn’t harm the environment.
We need more logging roads they clear a large path to keep forest fires under control, some people have a hard time understanding that importance. Hate to see these large out of control fires burning so many acres on the News
Another brain dead dumberjack.
Amazing, ..those guys are real men.
Absolutely
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Fantastic and riveting video log of the men who work the waterways hauling, scavenging and managing the lumber of Vancouver Island. Hardscrabble and dangerous, you bet... and...ain't a snowflake millennial dude to be seen among 'em. Thank you for this rewarding story.
"How can I force my obsession about evil lazy millenlials force into this logging documentary?"
I think you meant salvaging although there are scavengers around too.
millicent squirrel hole
Scavenging?
You must be younger than a millennial.
But yeah, no lumbersexual wannabes in sight.
Seeing more of the feller life would of been nice, but figures a camera crew probably couldnt stay around long.
Great documentary and thanks to the forest industry and for all the lumberjacks for providing us with all kinds of wood. But I am totally against cutting down ancient 500 to 1200 year old trees. There should be a limit on the diameter size of trees to cut.
Barry Wainwright diameter is not indicative of age. There is wood that is 500 years old and no bigger than a foot or two on the stump
You don’t know much about tree growth do you?
Cool to see a documentary about the place I live. The Mahata River area is spectacular, even with the logging there is just so much wilderness there you have to see it to appreciate it. And the scenery coming down the inside passage is next to none. By the way almost all those beautiful tree covered mountains have been logged at one time or even two.
You live at Mahatta River. I'm thinking not.
Never said I did. I lived in Port Alice which is very close to Mahata river.
@@ant-1382 my mistake I thought you said " cool to see a documentary about the place I live "
We lived in the married quarters for seven years, great place to raise a family.
Proud to work in the timber industry.
Canada is beautiful. Went thru Canada on my Harley then up thru Alaska.
Damn, now if ever there were men that could be defined as 'salt of the earth' it'd be these men in this documentary. Good stuff...
Awesome video!
Jestem drwalem z Polski. Zawsze marzyłem żeby pracować i polować z łukiem w Kanadzie. Piękny kraj, wspaniałe lasy, duże drzewa. Niestety, bardzo trudno o pracę w kanadyjskich lasach. Pozdrawiam drwali z Kanady.
The Scaler said "the deck is stacked", and he's for damned sure right! Mill owners own the rule book and own the elected man who they bought and paid for. From the fallers, choker setters, tug operators, to the mill workers and truckers - they're are all cogs in the wheel. Don't fault them for making a living! There's plenty other guys will take those job if they decide standing timber is more noble than feeding their family. The only truth that remains is the paychecks and size of the logs both get smaller every year.
Sounds like the way our groundfish industry is ran here in the noth Atlantic 😓
@@alstewart1186 Yep! It was the timber barons themselves that fought so hard AGAINST the creation of the National Forests, but they found many ways to steal it anyway, other than paying $1.80 and acre to buy the land itself like Weyerhaeuser did.
A beachcomber sounds like a blast. Good for him.
..."and Dennis has always lived this way"...😄
Happy New Year Shawn and Cali!! Love watching your videos!!
wrong channel, i know the channel your referring to, but, how did your comment end up on this doc?
That scavenger had some serious hustle
Great video
Nice documentary
i liike how all these guys enjoy there jobs, makes me wish i worked with them.
You know, it is a fact that lumberjack is the most dangerous job there is. (Police officer is not even in the top 10)
Trees are cut down, not "chopped"
A facility that processes logs into lumber is a sawmill, not a factory
People who cut trees down are loggers. "Lumberjack" is rarely used.
Logger here in the mountains of Southwest Virginia and Eastern Kentucky steep ground and hardwood logs. Not just a job a way of life. LOGGER.4.LIFE.
Did you not hear in the beginning they replant....
Not true ..they harvest the seeds from were the trees grew ..and grow the seedlings in nurseries and plant them back were they were harvest from ..so they have the same genetics of the same area...and more animals come in a new forest than in a old decitive one...in some cases selective harvesting would apply ...but that's mostly in hardwoods
4ourfutureinfinity and monoculture is a thing of the past and an exaggeration by you. Is it a monoculture when nature seeds in with,say, hemlock which colonizes disturbed areas as a pioneering specie? If landowners thin to promote diversity in the stand is that an abomination to you?
4ourfutureinfinity I know you have many things made of wood or things that were powered by wood
@@carldekok9065 Also by doing so it creates ground cover for wildlife!
@4ourfutureinfinity do you ever spend time in a forest or are you simply repeating what an expert has told you?
Fantastic to see Lemare Mahatta crews in force on UA-cam!
Worse outfit on the coast...
God bless the men who brave the hard places to make a living for their families and provide us with all the products we use in our daily lives. If God didnt want us to use the resources he would have done things quite different I am sure. Todays logging industry is very pro active in making sure we have a renewable resource and forests for generations to come. Yes I am a logger now in my 50's and am proud to say im a 7th generation Logger/ Timber Feller and our Son and Daughter are both following in our footsteps. Our Son is following my footsteps and our Daughter is set to graduate college with a masters degree in forestry and will go on to her waiting position with the USFS so you see this family trees roots go deep but also are headed to the future preservation and protection of our Forests.
Randy Hill forest service is fire and recreation now. Hope she succeeds.
how dumb are you?
Excellent and informative.....from old South Wales
The whole state of NH has been clear cut twice since settlers came here. There are more trees today than 100 years ago. That is a FACT!
You mean third growth good for particle board not old growth timber
Mike that is very true. We still have some old growth hear as well but they are few and far between.
The wealthy own the wood..I enjoyed getting scraps cutting firewood from tops and swinging the maul ..Now at sixty back broken..
We take trees that are 1000years old but you think that 100years can replace that lol you realy are an American
same with VT : ) More trees then ever nowadays... the old photos of our sister states from the early 1900s are insane how de-forested it was
Thanks for this documentary, I learned a lot
I never met a "lumberjack" on the island or even up coast. I have met and worked with thousands of LOGGERS there though. Lumberjacks stopped at the midwest.
I don't understand this hate it the term lumberjack. It predates the term loggers. They both mean the same thing.
Kyle Roush ‘lumberjack’ is more of a midwest term for a logger ( common in Michigan and Wisconsin 100+ years ago ). My grandfather logged 100 years ago, but referred to himself as a ‘lumberjack’, he never worked in a saw mill.
@@highwatercircutrider So it just comes down to people being petty about which term is used even if they mean the same thing.
I've seen that a lot, especially in my area.
"Lumberjack' is what townies call loggers.
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I had no clue timber cutters had to fill out a j s a, job safety analysis. 👍. Good crew.
If you're not doing a job briefing/ safety precautions! In any field that concerns trees, then your not a pro
beautiful scenery.
Andy Sixx loves this logumentary
I worked trees as a climber for 15 years and doing it - same as wildland firefighting, which I also did - people who don't do it make such a big deal out of it that it becomes almost fetishistic. For the most part, the people I worked with just thought of it as their job, and rarely as something that was noble or that we were doing that others we're afraid to do or incapable of (though when I was leading fire crews, if I had people who needed to be encouraged, I would remind them of that, so they knew it about themselves). Typically, though, the people that made a big deal out of it or made it their identities were people who didn't last. Something would happen that shook their faith in it and they would lose faith in themselves and have to quit (with a few exceptions). For the rest of us, it was just work that we had come to, typically by accident or because we knew someone who recommended we try it.
These shows play up something that in a sense makes the work impossible to do. I would ask the people who are most interested in watching these shows instead to find these things inside themselves. Go camp more and really leave behind the things you think you need. It's usually the idea of finding courage or endurance that people are really fetishizing, and there isn't really a need. All of those things are in them, too. Need is all it takes to cultivate them.
Steve Mattos you don’t need to put your life story on the internet
Very insightful, thanks. You sound like the next Hemingway.
I'd prefer to be more like Emerson than Hemingway, but thank you just the same. That's flattering.
I really enjoyed this. Thanks.
In the late 1800's Pennsylvania was clear cut from corner to corner. So we're the Adirondack mountains in NY. Go to Google Earth and hover over both states and see what they look like today. Trees are a crop.
Thank you this is going to help me with my lumberjack cartoon a lot!
A lumberjack cartoon? That's interesting.
use a dumb gamer instead!
@@bugnfront???
Some of you might like to watch a film about a logging family, The film is called "Never Give An Inch" or "Sometimes A Great Notion" (same film). Written by Ken Kesey and starring Paul Newman and Henry Fonda. The ending will hit you where you live. The story is a family that logs but does not go on strike with everyone else and sparks fly. Very good flick.
cravinbob agreed. I grew up in Oregon, that movie is just beautiful and nostalgic for me. There’s a special feeling working in the timber and running the rivers.
Great story. I'm a Vancouverite & have spent many years watching the logging of BC forests. This is genuinely the end of logging as we've known it!
I prey Hemp will fill the farmer's fields to give our forests a break!
Hemp can do much more than wood could ever dream of.
Great story all the same!
BRAVO.
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Hmmm? I never tried smoking a 2x4.
pretty hard to make furniture and houses out of hemp
Hemp will never replace dimensional lumber.
All the hard work these guys do it's a wonder Lumber doesn't cost even more.
What a great frontiersman spirit...good luck man!
So relaxed......Go Canada
Great video, Is their many hardwoods In Canada Like oaks, cherry ECT.???
it's very good to know that we, as humans today will have fresh new tall trees in about
500 / 1000 years or more from now.
Steve Davis they’ll grow to height in twenty percent of that time, it’s diameter that will increase over time that slowly
Logging and selling our whole logs to Asia and elsewhere is in my opinion ripping off jobs and our economy. The reason i understand they want our whole logs is they cut ll of theirs. The same reason we are losing our turtles here in the SE US. They all being collected and shipped to Asian countries as they have over collected their turtles for food. I am not against responsible logging, but I am against clear cutting or over harvesting. I also beleive some areas should be preserved as old growth primeval forest. enjoyed the documentary.
The thing with timber is that when you cut down a tree and make something with the wood, you'd storing all that carbon in that timber. All the carbon the tree absorbed over time, stored, not in the atmosphere.
Planting more trees absorbs more carbon. And so on, and so forth. There is actually a positive side effect of using timber, and therefore cutting down trees.
I confess, I feel a sense of sadness for those big old trees but that is because I apply a human time scale to them and think they are so ancient. They're pretty young in the greater scheme of life on planet earth. Just some perspective.
Thanks that helps a lot!
Jo Jo
andrewford80 I feel sad for the old trees too. It seems sacrilegious to destroy something so ancient - something that is the oldest living thing on earth.
andrewford80
Can dead trees absorb more CO2?
@@ir8free no mate, that's why you plant more trees.
Ya good documentry
Worked on that Tug with Andy for almost a year
treydo1
That's cool
no you didn't
Evan Murnighan
oh yes he did ...
look behind you ...
@@murnighan lol. If ya don't believe me, I can draw up a diagram of the entire boat for ya😂😂 5 days from port McNeil to Vancouver on that bad boy
So interesting!
Thank you for this great, informative video!!!
Really good documentary of bc Canada 👌🏼👍🏼
45:42 That's metal
It’s crazy to see you here. Glad you’re here
When he said they cut 400 year old trees on a regular basis I died a little
"Only in BC do they transport wood in this fashion", rafting, That is funny. I live near the Puget Sound, I have seen plenty of wood rafts here. My GG grandfather was doing it over a hundred years ago. Look up the book Cutting Across Time, it is on Amazon. This was in MN and WI. I love it when docs get the facts wrong.
Andy looks like a movie actor :) :)
Wonder what kind of hp those little tugs pushing
Those guys running on the log rafts gave me the pucker factor just watching, here in Manitoba we just don't get very big trees but I love seeing the boys on the coast doing their thing. Hats off and be safe.
Wheat!
Hard dangerous work for sure. However I would like to see the video where they replant
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Hi there are quite a few replanting videos out there on you tube
Fun watching the hippies complain. I’m here enjoying my hardwood floors and maple cabinets. All I see everywhere is wood.
Hello! I really loved watching this video and I'd like to write Spanish subtitles so its content may be available for more people, it's just that I am not sure how It works. Let me know if you are interested.
Down here in the "lower 48" there is no such thing as a "lumberjack". We are all loggers or retired ones like me.
Would've been hilarious if the name of the vidja was "Lumberjack Live matter" 😂
That'd not remotely funny.
@@TheMarleyDavidson yes it is🤣
Andys wife has those old Norse/ Scandinavian genetics. Very cool too see, you don't see them much anymore in NW America.
I do some dangerous cutting but this sets my hair on end.
It really made me feel sad to see those trees being cut down.
Geez, I remember when a Timber-jack was a logger and a Lumber-jack was a saw mill worker handling lumber. If you called a timber-jack a lumber-jack; he would straigten you out and same with the lumber-jack being called a timber-jack..
@SmoothRide jackass
@SmoothRide haha that cracked me up
There called neather here... Loggers or mill workers.
killing old growth since 1977 mill RATS I’ll have you know!
Lumberjacks cut down trees with crosscut saws and axes, a logger fells a tree with a chainsaw and wedges
And you are capable of doing neither.
Solid explanation tho
In BC we aren't "lumberjacks, we are LOGGERS!
Nice doc
I see everyone in the comments going crazy about them cutting down these old trees, but i bet yall have wooden furniture.
Maybe that's because we have nothing else that the furniture industry are offering us! Not our feckin fault!
Yes..made from pine..fast growing and easy to work and replace...who has teak furniture? Try a little harder..
there is a diffrence between dead wood and a living tree you glas of milk.
Well, sir, we did purchase our dining-room set ourselves (a granite--topped table, I don't know what kind of wood the wood parts are, but almost all the rest of our stuff is second-hand,) secondhand dressers, secondhand livingroom sofa, couch, chair and endtables, and we moved into an old house; not a new build. What makes me mad is all the new builds going up when there exist plenty of old houses and fixer-uppers availiable. People are soooo fickle. Our old house has only one bathroom , iswhy it was not selling and we obtained it relatively cheaply.
I bet places in California wish they had managed their trees more often.When you shut down the timber industry you can be sure the bugs and fire will eventually get them anyways.Before industry, fires were the management of nature.
California wildfires are a prime example of log it or lose it
Zeljko Trifunovic in Virginia we replant any forest we cut. research
Zeljko Trifunovic everywhere in the lower 48 it’s the law to replant. Se Alaska they thin what nature seeds in. Your comment is b.s.
Steady on Stevey boy dont be rash if it was upto you we wouldn't have paper by 2030
the beachcomber Eric was great.
Seemed to be s great life.
Not everybody could do this that's for sure.
Did I hear him incorrectly saying it was not a good haul that day but was worth $6,500 ?
+I don't understand that as well - even if it was for the month and minus costs and taxes it's not bad wage in my opinion
I suppose all the Tree Vegans -OR- Treegans would rather have their items made from non renewable resources.
bet they live in houses made of wood or from materials that are not consumed by the ground such as plastic and rubber which takes how long to compost ?
a tree will only grow so long for the most part until it dies and is no good
Steel is for ever.👍
We could certainly start processing all the damn plastic into something we can use for building. Or maybe caskets.
@@debbiehahn5622 lol vinyl or plastic siding is unstable from heat cold expanding and contracting
look at vinyl siding at 30 degrees and at 90 degrees and tell me how much it expands
might be better if they actually recycled plastic instead if almost all going to the dump other than plastic bottles
@@MyHMMWVaddiction not really it isnt and can you imagine the expense to build a house from steel ?
trees and lumber are renewable
how about digging giant holes for more iron mines
iron and steel has its place but not feesible in home construction
As a carpenter I wanna tell these guys too pick better logs
I work in logging in Northern CA. The landowners largely determine which trees to cut, not the loggers themselves. Also to get the best timber quality requires old growth trees and old growth logging is pretty much over, at least compared to what it used to be here in the states.
I've watched the quality decline in framing lumber on the west coast over the last 40 years: it has nothing to do with grading. It's the fact that we're shipping out all of our premium lumber as raw logs. It was mentioned at the end of the video but not covered in nearly enough depth. We have politicians who can't think beyond an election cycle and see hot building markets in Asia as a source for raw logs to be milled at much lower (labour) cost in their own countries. We need to charge tarriffs on exported logs to reduce that advantage to bring jobs back to Canada and realize the full economic value of our resources.
Perhaps ironically, most of the lumber available for purchase in BC is imported.
@@yearginclarke
In BC (Canada in general) we have 1/10 the population, 1/3 more land and about 75 fewer years of industrialization than the US.
We have a completely different system than private landowners selling their own timber (that's a rarity) Logging in BC typically happens on Crown (public) land with royalties (stumpage) being paid to the Crown (public purse) based on the volume of timber available for harvest as assessed by the Crown. Coupled with that is a requirement to replant in accordance with government (not industry) guidelines. As a result, the clear cuts that some like to parade as a travesty are tomorrow's plantation blocks.
It's also pretty common to have never-logged forest within economically-feasible range of processing given the steep terrain and proximity to the ocean.
Fortunately we've been able to see what's happened elsewhere and as a result our forestry practices are regulated by the provincial government. Individual governments may drop the ball to garner votes, but the regulatory framework means that we can adjust harvesting practices within the context of other concerns in real time (that's bureaucratic 'real-time' of course:)
@yearginclarke
Yep, I got that you were in CA. I was trying to point out the differences between what I perceived you were describing vs the regime as it is here. We export far too many of our resources without processing, just in general. We buy a lot of lumber and ply from the US specifically because we are exporting what we produce for the sake of a quick buck...but that deficit pays for social programs like 'free' daycare.
I'd like to see a tariff applied to the export of raw logs to bring it up to the cost of those logs having been processed here (which is the entire point of tariffs). Of course, the Chinese are buying up mills here wherever they can, which means they can just mill it here and dodge any potential sanction.
I'm also a logger and Danny I want this job. I'm always looking for another challenge especially in the logging industry