How U.S. Weapons Like F-16s Can Turn The Tide In Russia-Ukraine War
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- Kyiv’s push to take back occupied land in eastern Ukraine hasn’t been easy. Despite some small gains, a large breakthrough has yet to occur, leaving some to wonder what else is needed.
Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
01:18 - Counteroffensive
04:12 - Western jets
08:56 - Cluster munitions
10:37 - What’s next?
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How U.S. Weapons Like F-16s Can Turn The Tide In Russia-Ukraine War
War rules and treaties be like:
- Let's have rules for war.
- Let's break them if we are losing.
- Let's make rules again after we have won.
@@goodluckokerekeyeah dude enjoy getting your lungs filled with blood after you get hit by chemical weapons
@@goodluckokereke do you figure tactical nukes are acceptable weapons? Just curious
@@goodluckokereke I think we still need rules because some weapons may cause unintended civilian casualties or even damage other countries, even after the war ended: landmines, cluster munitions, chemical weapons, biological weapons, nukes
Those that are responsible for war are realists.
@@goodluckokerekethe problem is the whole premise of a war being started is that rules were broken. The only real power these rules hold, is diplomatic and economic consequences any third party may impose.
its easy to speak about war when you are in your homes...
is that fault or reality.
“Lets see how much more can we launder before it ends”
10% for the big guy. Slava Raytheon!
people forget that the training of a single pilot for example, can cost several million dollars, and has a long training time. pilots are the most difficult part of a fighter to replace. this is the same for most military roles.
Yeah, training pilots from scratch takes time. Training an experienced pilot to operate a new/different aircraft takes a lot less time. USAF has already said it can reduce the F-16 transition program for experienced Ukrainian pilots. Why don't you listen to the experts instead of trying to figure it out for yourself with no information?
Wonder who Your people are.
All Danish donatations are included budgets covered stamps too.
So we and the the world a minimum the cost.
The clever parts here also know Ukras might need some of many spare parts.
We hesitated to give different airplanes because af pilots . We now has no choise.
And have enough F35s instead. Right now only has 2. They dont replace some 20 the 100% and 10 95% reserves
You donate trash( Holland) that you dont want to fly, because it is not safe, to war, to Ukraine? You are suposed to be friend?
People forget that America left Afghanistan because they new the war in Ukraine will start. Since that time Ukrainian pilots should start getting training.
Those analysts are as usefull as a last winter snow.. 😅
The question is: who pay the price?
You
Your dad
Your grandpa
Ps the one who pays tax
@@buchhibabu751i would gladly send my taxes to help Ukraine repel Russia. It is not only selfless but self-interested. Letting Russia win in Ukraine threatens the US very much.
The Ukrainian working man pays the price of course.
The F-16 needs a fixed runway and an army of specialists to get it ready and to keep it operational. There is not a single safe airport left in Ukraine, whether military or civilian. Then she also faces off against an opponent who can also fly and also has a fully functioning anti-aircraft system. In the end it will end up just like the supposed "game changers" Leopard II, Bradley, AMX-10 or Striker.
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I agree that the F/A-18 would be a better choice.
I also agree that the overly dramatic title "game changer" is not only over-the-top, but a mixed metaphor... Ukraine is slowly winning and game-changers reverse the loser to the winner. So...
Anyway, just so that you can sleep at night, know that aircraft support personnel are also being trained.
Somehow Ukraine is still able to use Soviet era planes every day. Ukraine is biggest country in Europe after Russia. It has dozens of airports.
This is a fact a few tanks and airplanes won't make a difference to Russians have millions
And that's a fact
This War needs to end ASAP
Tell that to Putin.
End the war and all billions and billions of aid dollars that the corrupt regime has been stealing will also end. What the crook Zelensky will do is clear.
@pduran880,
You should speak to the Russians about that.
Russia is ready for immediate cease fire as soon as Ukraine surrenders
Send a letter to red square, kremlin 🙄
An expensive piano won't do any magic if the player isn't any good. 😂😂😂
Player is doing just fine stealing billions of aid dollars
Considering that they're so far managing to push back on an adversary that's like 4 times bigger than them, I'd say that's pretty dang good.
@@Descriptor413
Welcome!
To the new Russia in ukraine,only rubles please.
@Descriptor413 yeah they doing just fine right? They managed to lose 30% of their territory.
Ukraine needed airpower over a year ago.
Ukroin already has a massive air power fleet thanks to its ussr mega army past + the 25 years of being a russia allie
And despite that it got destroyed inside 3 months
A lot of you guys seem to forget ukrain is not a random middle east country. It was part of ussr. And was among the smartest industrial sucessfull part of ussr
The nato help will only make the war last longer by 1 2 years but that wont change the final outcome
@@mathewvanostin7118, almost everything that you written here is incorrect.
Ukraine does not have a massive air power; it started the war with a small fleet of ~100 combat aircraft many of which have subsequently been lost.
The Ukrainian Air Force fleet was inherented from the Soviet Union 32 years ago not from Russia during the previous 25 years.
The Russians had a 10:1 advantage against Ukraine in February of 2022 but despite this they didn't destroy the Ukrainian Air Force within 3 months. The Russian Air Force has failed to destroy the Ukrainian Air Force after 18-months due to a combination of corruption and next-level incompetence.
Everyone knows that Ukraine is not in the Middle East.
Everyone is aware that the Ukrainians are "smart", this has been on display as they have found clever ways to defeat their much larger invader on the battlefield.
Ukraine’s supporters will continue to provide it with the tools that will help them to remove the Russian Zombies Army from every kilometer of Ukrainian territory.
Heeey hoooo remember ussr? Best army of the world along usa
Ukraine was part of it! And a vital part of it
Kiev odessa kharkov donesk dnipro were among top 10 most advanced industrialized ussr cities-region along moscow st petersburg vladivostok novosibirsk
@@mathewvanostin7118, you are correct but Russia took most of the Soviet weapons and they have also procured new ones since the cold war.
They only took the nukes. Cause those was too dangerous. The rest they let it in ukroin. It was part of the ussr split up process that what ever is in independant ex soviet country become his. Except extremely stratigic element like nukes or spatial base or sebastopol base etc.
And it was all good cause big majority of soviet military industries were in russia. So ukraine was dependant on russia to continue selling them new equipement and ammo to maintain everything. So russia liked the fact ukraine was dependant on them to maintain majority of everything. And back in 1991-2014 they were best friends before the usa sponsored coup to try to make it nato and not a russia allie
So ukraine is very powerfull. Its a prime ussr military maintained for 25 years with excellent relationship with russia. Who send them new gear new equipement new ammo and also some post soviet gears
Only place where the tide is turning is the military industrial complex and the exec bonuses
Absolutely right. It is not Ukraine or democracy that that crook Zelensky is fighting for. The longer the war goes more the billions of aid he gets. And more limelight in world stage. The entire corrupt regime should be jailed.
Well, Putin and Zelenski are Lockheed's best salesman, for two consecutive years.
Next year, the U.S will give permission to finally send Ukraine the remaining kitchen sinks, since the F35 will have also failed to present the desired results.
Kitchen sinks will be another game changers, just like the previous game changers.
they are hiring English teachers for the pilots.
And how is the Russian war effort going again? Where are the super advanced T-14's and SU-57's? Why is Russia unable to conquer a nation which had a military only a small fraction of the size of its own? Why haven't the Russians achieved air superiority over the course of a year and a half?
@@tomcat4195 russia keeps the best for the last. Wont be surprise if their tactic is to wear down NATO to see what kind of toys the NATO deliver for free on the battlefield. Then sell the scraps and info to china, iran, cuba, norrth korea, heck all countries in the world that have a score to settle with usa in the near future
@@tomcat4195 BECAUSE, their mission is not to destroy Ukraine or it's citizens. Their targets are strictly military assets and military personnel. It is Ukraine that is just wildly shooting anywhere and killing innocents as if by intent. Why is the Ukraine military bombing civilian assets in Donetsk far from any Russian military infrastructure?
At this rate, this 🥕could be the Game changer!
yep...
Sure if we just ignore how bad Russia has performed its 10 day special military failure… lol. You see what you want to see.
@@MrObvious-tg8lzoh your western media narratives educated fool. It was the bs media you're educated with that said it. Putin said his army will demilitarise and Denazification of the UKRAINIAN army. Meanwhile Ukraine said 10 weeks ago when the winter spring summer autumn counter offensive started they would be in Crimea, they haven't made it passed the greyzone yet.
@@MrObvious-tg8lz Before the war started, Russia was the third biggest military in the world and Ukraine the eleventh. The third biggest military having a hard time against the eleventh biggest military on their own turf while they are backed by the biggest military alliance of all time is not a ''bad performance''. Do remember that conventional military wisdom says that it's three times easier to defend a territory than to take it. So even if Russia ends up losing the war it still won't be a bad performance. I still hope Russia outright loses mind you but I've stopped believing it's possible a long time ago. Maybe it's just because I don't get all of my news from TikTok.
Also, no one else than American ''analysts'' ever claimed that the war would only last 10 days. Seriously, look it up, Putin never said that. The UK said that he did after the fact without providing any proof for it and that's about it.
@@giantWario Russia failed its invasion long before NATO started providing significant support, that’s just false.
Another "gamechanger"
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The thing isn't can expensive american made weapons turn the tide, but rather American made weapons and weapon systems are often times sadly the ones with the production capacity to supply. Look at German Leopards, if you order them now you get your first tank in 5 years time. Same with jets, not really a lot of options out there.
There are no options of weapons from Europe, they rely on Americans to defend them and have lost any will to fight a century ago.
The only weapons Europe makes are strictly for export profit.
The United States have never had such a weak cowardly leader.
Ukrainians pay the price.
That's because our economy has yet to swift to a war footing. We are lucky that we don't need to yet.
@@j.erickson8571 it's because we're used to order 5 years in advance and thinking it's normal, when it never was
There have been many tinpot dictators have American weapons. Iran and the Mullahs had our weapons but they really did not use them very well. But to use it affectively you must coordinated your army, navy and air force and that's not easily to do. You also must have top notch military intelligence backing it all up. The level of coordination is insane and the work is ball breaking.
@@mandarinandthetenrings2201 yep. even if they landed yesterday there is still 5 years worth of training and team construction that needs to take place. Sure the Ukraine is infested with cia that has a good grasp on that kind of thing but it hasn't helped so far. ALL of the equipment and heavy arms V's that Canada just sent are all destroyed as of yesterday. Couldn't drive em properly. All gone. plenty more I hear as well from the other countries. it's a bloodbath. The gear is all so little so late it's not even the topic at hand. you know it, I can see. just sayin
Next topic: Can "peaceful" nato troops make a difference?
And after that: Can “peaceful” nukes make a difference?
@@DARKSEID76Russia has hypersonic missiles the collective west don't. Russia can shoot down hypersonic missiles the collective west cannot. The air defence system the collective west has are struggling to shoot down Russian subsonic missiles. But if you're in the UKRAINIAN army they lie to Keep USA weapons market going. The UKRAINIAN army has never shoot a Russian hypersonic missiles down. So the collective west will be destroyed real fast if it came to the nuke war.
No the NATO forces will not make a difference to the outcome of this conflict there is still 1.3 million russian troops on the battlefield. Western media don't report the truth this is a disaster for Ukraine and the west. 6 pilots are getting training to write English while Russia has 1000 gen5 planes and 2600 gen 4.
Do you understand that as soon as NATO troops enter Ukraine, a thousand NATO soldiers will die every day? NATO troops have never met such rival as Russia, who has been learning to fight against NATO weapons for a year and a half.
How do you explain this death to voters?
@@SerpkoBakotiinii that if they ever make it to the battlefield.
Yea im sure this will help. Absolutely not going to make the situation horrifically worse.
How would giving an abused wife state more weapons to fight back against their abusive husband state make the situation horrifically worse? Ukraine literally gave up all of it's nukes so it could stay independent.
How would it be worse???? What are the russians gonna do ? Invade ?
How is helping Ukraine to destroy the Russian enemy making the war worse?
@@0IIIIII Escalation.
It will happen like with the Leopard tanks, they were requested by Ukrainians for long time, their supply was announced many months before their arriving, Ukrainians needed months to be trained to use them and when Leopard tanks were deployed in the war Russia had already figured out how to destroy them. It will happen the same with F16 jets, when, after many months, they will be deployed for the war Russia will have already figured out how to destroy them.
Exactly. The Russians will be prepared because they have been given a long advance warning that F-16s are coming.
Simple! Propaganda! Media acts like russia doesn't have kornets to counter the leopards and now they act like russia doesn't have surface to air missiles.
I agree, they shouldn't try and should just give up. I for one welcome our new Russian overlords.
I am sure Russia is already working to get an F16 jet to study it and discover how to destroy them. They sure are searching for someone willing to sell them one of their F16 jet, it is not that difficult: Iran has got them.
What ? Are you crazy ? Give up and forego billions and billions of dollars of US taxpayer aid ? Give up a once-a-millennia opportunity to steal billions of aid ?@@kidShibuya
I felt like we heard the exact same story about the tanks. I'm willing to bet that there be something else they will be wanting once the aircraft is either taking down or unable to properly maintain them.
You are correct.
They said the same thing about the Challenger and Leopard tanks. They said the Bradley Fighting Vehicles were game changers. They said the MRAP armored vehicles were game changers. They said Stinger missiles were game changers. They said NATO troop training were game changers. They said the Patriot missile system were game changers. They said HIMARS were game changers. None of these made a difference.
well when you have a little kid running the country and giving terrorist demands on what he wants and did nothing before it all happened the f16 will do nothing unless the war goes on for 2 plus more years
@@not_nostradamus683 Of course not, because Russia has all these weapon systems in one form or another and much more of them and outproduces "The West" in weapons and ammo. Russia also has the better air defence. Patriot has been a complete failure, as people would know, if they heard Scott Ritter out. They guy who told the truth about Iraq having NO WMDs! Biden wanted WAR back then too!
So true. If Jewish Nazi Zelensky had listened to Trump and his genius friend Comrade KGB Col Putin's wisdom & brotherly advice and hadn't been armed twisted to start the war against Russia, by joining up with aggressive NATO --- an action that put Russia's peace loving nature & existence into a dangerous situation --- none of this would have happened.
Everybody knows, Russia and China are, for example, the good guys; at least they are never aggressie or are colonial powers like the US and Western European countries.
Russia and China came into being, from the very beginning, as big and wise, tolerant, freedom loving, and peaceful as they are today.
It's the aggressive West who has steadily encroached against Russia, putting her 11 time zone land and 6,000 thermonuclear in danger.... that emboldened Ukraine to start this war of aggression against Russia.... But it's not just Ukraine; Finland, Norway, Sweden, Moldova, Georgia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland.... ALL these aggress neighbors want to see Russian collapse...
Russia, on the other hand, merely and GENTLY asked for small "buffering" acres --- from these former East Bloc provinces of the USSR ---- to add to her tenuous, 11 time zone land, to make sure it is a bit safer from the aggressive West...
Ukraine, everyone knows, IS THE ONE going on the offensive against Russia, who is on the DEFENSE in all of her newly acquired as well as traditional lands from Mykoliav, to Kerson, to Zaporizhzhia, to Crimea, and the Donbas provinces... @@not_nostradamus683
You are a fool. Who is they? Most people were saying those were important weapons but not "game changers". Gamechangers were reserved for HIMARS and stormshadow missiles which absolutely enabled the Ukrainians to take back Kherson and other regions. The Ukrainians have taken back well over 50% of the territory the Russians originally stole. Meanwhile Ukraine has just taken Robotne and is close to penetrating the main Russian defense line. So you are horrifically uneducated about the conflict or you are a Kremlin shill.
Gripen would be great for Ukraine, especially with the possibility to use ordinary roads for start and landing.
Yeah, but time is ticking, people are dying
Gripen is available in limited supply. As of 2023 there are only 300 gripens, compared to f16 there are over 4,300 f16s all over the world. They are better than the f16 for ukraine however im not sure if the bureaucracy would allow for there transfer. To change the war you'd need around 50-100 4 gens to seriously give ukraine the advantage.
@@oldskolacura9798 Gripen is designed to be able to use a LOT of different weapons... "long-and short-range and agile air-to-air missiles to heavy air to surface missiles and guided bombs". Which also would be good in this situation... a gift of "any" weapons to Ukraine, might fit the Gripen.
Yes, and they are now training on Gripens. F16 will be no help if Americans are not allowed to go to Ukraine to support them. The donating countries can't spare support personnel. Biden needs to allow American support thus " boots on the ground ".
are you saying it would be a G a M e C h A n G e R ?🤔
Someone once stated that even the whole might of the US military would struggle with this line of defense just because its never been tested against by our doctrine of fighting. Pretty neat to see the UA being the first ones to test it out
The US dealt with this in desert storm and were accused of war crimes because they didn't give the Iraqis a chance to surrender. The US learned to deal with this from their fighting in Vietnam. It wasn't exactly the same but enough was understood to apply the lessons in different situations.
@@tcmhs Yep, I remember hearing stories of Iraqi soldiers defiantly firing their rifles as they were buried alive by bulldozers.
@@hymns4ever197 🇺🇸
@@tcmhs that’s not fair because Iraq was under heavy arms embargo prior to the US entering the war. Iraq couldn’t maintain their weapons
Also the Russian sold Iraq downgraded versions of their weapons.
@@hymns4ever197 You mean the Iraq soldiers that defeated our American army and sent them packing? The amazing part is all they needed was antique firearms and rocks to do it.
Its not the F-16 itself that's a game changer, but the vast array of missiles it can fire.
@@lobotobot154the point is to keep the Russian Air Force at bay, and not to give the Ukraine an offensive edge.
S-75 downed "invader" gary powers .
S-125 downed "invader" F-117 stealth nighthawk.
S-400S/S500S are waiting for the fools to come..😊
you have a lot of confidence in Ruskie technology, don't you? @@lobotobot154
@@lobotobot154LOL, part of that missile array the F16 can carry, is the lovely AGM-88 HARM, solely designed to mop up air defenses. Can’t wait to see Russia get the dirt it created kicked right back in its face.
@@user1qaz2wsx3edcyour point is about two takedowns out of thousands of sorties? FWIW 1) Ukraine will need and EW envelope for support. Pilots these days don't just fly without it and FWIW 2) Israel flies almost nightly into the Syrian S-400 territory. It's the pilot, not the plane.
basically these experts are short of saying Ukraine is screwed
The opposite, Russia should have won this war in 10 days but due to corruption and utter incompetence they are instead getting slowly knocked backwards. Thats so embarrassing and humiliating for former Mighty Russia. We are laughing at them daily, Best comedy in years!
Very poor listening comprehension skills. Those interviewed described the challenges Ukraine faces in terms of adequate weaponry and aircraft in the shorter term. However, the Russian's face an even greater challenge as they lack the multi-national support we have in Ukraine. There is no question whether or not Ukraine will succeed in extracting Russian forces from their country, but the inadequate military supplies and equipment issue does prolong the war.
were you dropped as a kid?
@@Cris_the_coder Rumor has it that there were multiple drops. Very sad.
@@jlvandat69 ROFL the entire western world has supported you to the point that they are all low on munitions. We US taxpayers alone have given you MORE money that the ENTIRE Russian military budget by far. Yet you are still unable to achieve anything expect flail around and waste our munitions by attacking random office building in Moscow and bridges which have zero impact on the frontlines. You people were finished the say you decided to murder ethnic Russians in Donbass. I suggest you better learn to say Slava Russia soon as we are about done supporting your 3rd world wasteland.
How many more 'wunder weapons' and 'game changers' to the tune of billions are we going to go through again?
as long as these weapons bring huge income to the military industrial complex of USA.
Till average Americans go bankrupt.
I mean it’s 500+ days of failed invasion. Imagine if US took 500+ days to take Baghdad
Honestly, we're mostly just clearing out our old stockpiles. Most of these are hand-me-downs that we will now no longer have to store and maintain.
@@Descriptor413 HIMARS, Bayraktar, Switchblade, M777, artillery shells used by modern systems, Paladin shells, Leopard 2's, Strykers, Patriots and I could keep going are 'old stock'?
I think he hit the nail in the head when he said it’s not a football game. Everyone is expecting immediate and strong results but this is a war with Russia. Although obviously not the military we thought it was. But still a massive fighting force nonetheless compared to the Ukrainians. They are doing a damn good job in my opinion. Give ‘em hell boys.
Have the Ukrainians crossed that defence line or we r still waiting for the spring, winter , or wait summer, or maybe autumn counteroffensive in 2099
They are doing a dam good job at dying that is about it. 420000 casualties is not a success
if this is your idea of a "good job" then your expectations are seriously low lol. Although its not nice to be mean to toddlers when they do something wrong either.
Russia's fighting nato and winning while America lost to the Taliban.....
@@Bellatrys The counteroffensive started a couple of months ago. They're making gradual progress taking a village or two every week or so. It's really hard to make your way through networks of minefields, trenchworks and artillery without air superiority.
I heard they are looking at the Gripen. That would be a great choice for them. The F-16 needs clean runways, it probably would suffer from FOD. The Gripen was made to land on roads if necessary.
they can have both... anything to take down evil Russia they are no different then nazis
Do you think that the JAS-39 is not susceptible to FOD?
Oh so f16 won’t be a game changer anymore ? 😂 they haven’t even got them yet, you already started talking about the following game changer 😂
@@shsh-he5qg, looks like the Russian Troll Farm found this video.
Not sure how potentially sourcing more than one type of modern aircraft to vaporize Russian invaders is a bad thing.
@@toddbrackett4277 Gripen's were designed specifically to take off & land from roads incase their airfields were destroyed. I don't know how it deals with FOD, but I'm guessing they designed that into it.
She forgot to add maintaining something. Usually the hardest part.
The Danish and Dutch F-16s are all Block-1/10... The Dutch are ditching their F-16s because are moving to the F-35s. All the F-16s Are the A version... I would be surprised if they can last even a week over Ukraine...
Lets take a minute first to evaluate the impact if "game changing" tank and cluster munition deliveries made recently. The air is much tough. Even russians are keeping their airforce away, often shooting extremely long range missiles from.Russia mainland. How would Ukraune use its F-16? Shoot from Poland or Romania?
They won't fly to the front with the F16s, either. They will be shot down from a safe distance and flown back to base. The same what the Russians do, but not on civilian targets.
As for the cluster munitions, you might want to read what the Russian military bloggers who are on the ground are reporting. They find the use of cluster munitions anything but funny.
@@huckleberryfinn6578 unfortunately, evidence tell us that there is no safer place in the entire Ukrainian territory. No airport or runway is safe. Russia hits every corner, including the very edge of border with Romania to target infrastructure like grain ports.
Since Ukraine got cluster munitions they started moving the front line again while causing mauve casualties, like the recent withdrawal from Urozhaine
Thats not true@@johnny_eth
@huckleberryfinn6578
Yeah, those pilots will.find those S400 not funny either...
Is it an economical business activity or inflation relief valve?
One SU 57 is enough for all the F16s game changer is Irani and Turkish drones.
Expensive weapons mean nothing. Usually it demonstrates that contractors are ripping you off while a Russian, Chinese or Iranian made device can counter the material with an object that was 1000x cheaper.
Bro shut up , look what an embarrassment russia has look in Ukrainian, ukraine has nothing no planes , no long range missiles omg the list is endless
No.
@@intheshell35ify"In the competitive environment before the companies consolidated, a shoulder-fired stinger missile cost $25,000 in 1991. With Raytheon now the sole supplier, it costs more than $400,000 to replace each missile sent to Ukraine. Even accounting for inflation and some improvements, that's a seven-fold increase." - CBSnews
Yes, we are overcharging ourselves in military just like for drugs. In other countries this would be called “corruption” but here it’s “capitalism.” It’s a supply versus demand problem. We need more suppliers and they need to be prevented from being “gobbled up” by the giant money machine that is Lockheed. (Search for the }Chris Cappy Lockheed” video. It’s eye opening.)
@@intheshell35ify they fool you real good that things cost that much to make, u ever heard of mass production? thing is when pull some magic numbers you can rip off more from gullible taxpayers like yourself, thinking you do it for the better good
It's not a one weapon solution, NATO should also train Ukrainian pilots to use the AH-1Z Viper and A-10. the F-16 is a excellent aircraft, maybe the best with it's block V upgrades until something proves otherwise but it's not the solution. Ukraine should have been given the ATACMS a year ago .
It's patriotic to make peace not war.
@@winstonsmith7801the US cannot make peace in Ukraine, it is impossible. Russia refuses to withdraw and cease hostilities. Even if Ukraine surrendered to Russian demands and they keep some or all of their conquered territories, there’s no guarantee Russia won’t be back in the future, for more wars and aggression. Peace and prosperity for the good guys can only come if Russia is severely beaten and punished.
@@0IIIIII Not True . If you looked into the History of this Conflict , the US caused it and Russia did all it could to stop it from happening in the first place .
Russian air defenses air the best on earth. The A-10 wouldn't last a second near Russian air space. No air platform is going to do much here at all. It just isn't.
@@0IIIIIILol, WHY should Russia play by the rules when the west and Ukraine clearly never did?
And good luck trying to beat and punish Russia....all they know is suffering, the ridiculous 'suffering' the west can cause them....the russians are laughing at it. Comparing what they have been through, western 'punishment' seems like amusement.
this just seems like some military industrial complex gaslighting
Quite a few countries are using F16's .
I would directly transfer Tur Key F16 he dreams about to Elenski. Er Dog An is such an Ukropistan lover.
And we are paying for them! Joe is full of surprises for the American people!!
8 planes won't matter like the spattering of Nato tanks didn't matter. This is a conflict with two nations that had large military forces to begin with. One has obviously been advancing their tech and been involved in more conflict the past two decades, but Ukraine did have a large military.
Nato has been too busy fighting the second and third world, they lost sight of what a first world country is capable of and what it takes to fight such a force. Economics and productive capacity win these types of conflicts. Most Nato countries have lost their industrial base.
Agree entirely !!
Russia is NOT a first world nation even Poland is not a first world nation.
The first second third world was a definition of allied groups within the cold war.
Western Europe and USA allied were first world
Soviets felt they were their own world, the second world.
Third world was everywhere else including comparatively properous Switzerland and Austria
@@Carl0s695 still, fighting Russia will not be like Afghanistan
8 planes matter more than 100 tanks. They don't have to worry about the terrain they are in, as well as limiting any russian plane strikes, including the ka-52 which Ukraine was struggling with. The f-16 is also a multi-role fighter so it can take out air targets and ground targets. All the hand me down weapons are basically the equivalent of russia's military.
What happened to the Cluster munitions.........I though they were supposed to be a Game changer.......
HIMARS was supposed to turn the tide and we saw how that went
10:35 There most certainly is another choice: SEEK PEACE AND END THIS DEMONSTRATION OF FOOLISHNESS.
The best war is to get others to fight for you
How many time Ukraine has turned the tide in this war lol.
How much is a house? 500k.
But wait, is it new or renovated? New plumbing and wiring? Does it have heating or conditioning? Garden and pool? Solar panels? Dual car garage?
Now tell me how much an F-16 costs? Or a NASAMS system?
Nothing is a definitive game changer that we can deliver in a reasonable time.
These F16s the Netherlands and Danmark are sending are old stock meant to be/are already replaced by the F35. Its just an excuse for these countries ministry of defense to increase their military budget and/or get deals with American contractors to buying newer planes. It also gives them soft power in return which is valuable on the negotiating table.
Classic window of opportunity to achieve this.
Ukraine soldiers are now using drones with thermo cameras to ID mines. What they do is wait till dusk and fly the drone over the field, and the mines, having been warmed up by the sun show up on the screen and then they can use cluster munitions to take out the mine field and move through it.
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No.
@@musikmedravnen You should google it. There are several articles and videos on this.
You are a gifted stand up comedian, have you considered going pro?
They don't use cluster munitions to clear minefields, as undetonated bomblets create UXOs, which basically become mines. They use cluster munitions to hit routing Russian troops, like the ones running away from Urozhaine and Robotyne.
For clearning minefields they use sappers, and recently we've seen more use of MICLICs.
Still don't think a few jets are a "game changer" considering they'll be receiving them 2024. Down South Ukrainian are failing to breakthrough while Russians are advancing North. The end of Ukrainian counter means Russians will be on the offensive assuming they can stop that advancing Ukrainian will have one last counter offensive and this is My opinion
Russia undertook basically suicidal attacks against Territorial Defense Force units to take a few settlements up north with a total population of around 60 people in an attempt to draw away Ukrainian troops from the South, then proceeded to get blasted and pushed back to the river. A situation not much different than the sacrifice of the Russian 155th Naval Infantry Brigade at Vuhledar. Anyone who thinks Russia is doing anything noteworthy north is out of their minds.
And Ukraine is shaping the battles in the South to their favor, they're securing the high ground around important settlements and roads, while bringing up engineering vehicles to clear minefields and destroying bridges, logistic hubs and C3 centers in the rear with GMLRS and Stormshadow/SCALP missiles. A situation not much different than what happened in Kherson, where the Russian proudly boasted about "defeating" the Kherson Counter-Offensive multiple times as they "strategically withdrew to more favorable positions", until suddenly, and for "no apparent reason" the Ukrainians achieved a breakthrough, then the Russians put their tail between their legs and ran away to the other side of the Dnipro.
Only Rusians and a few others names weapons as game changers.
Russia has barely gained any ground in the North, Ukraine has broken the main line of defense down south
Ukraine has not broken any main defencelines i south at all.
The strong one ready for counterattack always is line 3 in tnhe Russian version. It has tanks and is heavy armed .
So far Ukraine has taken line 1 and touch line 2. They have strike line 2 and 3 very well.
Soon has is the real world and my hope too 💛💛💙💙
They say the road mobile icbm launchers are reserved for counter value targets in the USA.
Of course they can, but they need them in the right numbers and fast.
Didn't the US media say the same thing when Ukr received the game-changing Javelin missiles, game-changing M777 howitzers, game-changing HiMARS systems, game-changing Bradley IFVs, game-changing Patriot systems & game-changing Leopard 2 tanks...?
and they say they are going to help tai wan, which is separated by thousands of miles of ocean.
Funny, The game is still the same and Ukraine; ie NATO & the West are still losing.
@@RealPackCatwhy do you think Ukraine and the West are losing? Losing according to who?
@@0IIIIIIHeavy losses and very little land gains.
Ukraine is liberating village after village. Russia is loosing hardware 3 to 1. It's over for russian fashists. F16 will make air defense much stronger so russia will have to forget about the new invasion. Soon UA will have more drones so no military factory will be safe in Russia.
No. They cannot. Even that warmonger Anthony Blinken said they won't change anything.
F-16's will be useless in this conflict. It takes years to train on those systems.
And what of the Bradly Fighting Vehicles we sent over? Where are they?
These analysts spoke truthfully, no weapons are silver bullet. They can help in terms of the war, in terms of translating some battle field success, but not the tide of the war. Its has to be resolve diplomatically, unless the west injects a lot of advanced weapons, ground based systems, air based systems and sea based systems to force Russia out of Ukarine. Russia will only talk if they know they are losing.
Russia tried to talk for about an year and only when they realized the west is absolutely callous to their concerns did they, for lack of other options, invade Ukraine
West will always lose against Russians! They tried to subdue them for the past 200 years and they were always crushed. Now NATO and Ukronazis are absolutely obliterated in Eastern Ukraine!
For 9 years, Russia kept demanding the same thing: Ukraine must be under Russia's direct control. There's many concessions that Ukraine could make, but returning to degradation is not an option.
@@nevigodstanson7160 do you consider military neutrality direct control? Not joining NATO is just one possible decision to control. Or do you think remaining militarily neutral to save Ukrainian lives but joining the EU would have also provoked invasion?
@@stockdale829 Ukraine isn’t in NATO and yet still got invaded! What are you on about?
As a dane, Yes, its one of the better way to "get rid of old inventory"
Wow!
Why it didn't turn the tide in Afghanistan or even Syria?
We heard the same last year with Leopard tanks and look how they turned out to be, now F-16, they will change nothing as russian AA is superb
"Russia will run out of ammo by Christmas"
the west has been saying that since the beginning of the war
What year 😂
Russia uses 60k ammunition per day, @ currently has a stockpile to use that amount for the next 10 years LOL
What !! Again ?? Thats the 10th time since the beginning of the conflict.
Propaganda war
It seems like they need A-10 WARTHOGs for ground attack more that high performance fighters.
NO. next question
0:00: 💣 The Ukrainian counter-offensive in the war against Russia is facing significant challenges due to extensive Russian fortifications and obstacles, making progress slow and difficult.
3:26: 💰 Ukraine is facing challenges in combined arms warfare and is in need of Western fighter jets and advanced weaponry, which are expensive but necessary to reduce casualties.
6:31: 💰 The cost of shooting down a missile should be considered in relation to the destruction it causes, and Ukraine needs to prioritize defending cities and critical infrastructure.
9:52: 🔫 Ukraine needs cluster munitions to continue their offensive against Russia's artillery in a more balanced fashion.
Recap by Tammy AI
Good bot
@@markanthony7307ukraine still winning mark ? 😂
@@shsh-he5qg lmao never said they were
@@shsh-he5qgTất nhiên.
Russia will win!!! 💪🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺💪💪.
More 'game changers' 😂😂
A shooting star appears coming from the north. The explosives go off. The hollow ball of plutonium is crushed. Fissioning of the crushed pit starts fusion of tritium. A shower of fast neutrons is released boosting the fission. Moments later x radiation from the fissioning plutonium crushes the lithium deturide secondary. Fusion in the secondary releases another shower of neutrons causing fissioning of the uranium tamper. A flash appears.
Give them the tools to succeed. Now not next year.
American interests are at stakkkkke🧟♂️🧟♀️🧟🧟♀️🧟♂️🧟♀️
Ukraine took back a huge amount of land for one reason.....Ukraine broke an agreement with Russia, where peace talks would take place once Russia withdrew from the Kiev region, back behind the Donbass lines.
the whole media BS about Ukraine defeating the Russian "invasion" of Kiev, is complete fiction.
Wow, another a gamechanger, just so many others. They'll torch like Christmas trees.
Combined arms, without airsuprority?
10:50 He's said it out loud: "... core American interests... are at stake in the outcome in Ukraine..."
Let them negotiate
We need to get out of this and stay out. Stop funding foreign wars. We have massive problems at home that need money and attention.
Should we stop funding Israel then?
Yep
@@ericrodriguez7423 yep
@@ericrodriguez7423 yes.
Should we defund our military then?
This is like HIMARS and Leopard 2 all over again
Very good analysis and commentary. Thank you.
The right question is, "Are we doing a great job convincing the American people to support this 'lll world war' that we so desperately want to harness support for it?!?!"
What?
@@MrObvious-tg8lzWe're closer to WW3 than ever before. A lot of people are cheering it on, thinking they won't be touched.
Well we gave them the cluter munition we set aside to give, but we do have more 155 rounds....we just arent giving OURS away. But we could CHOSE TO GIVE THOSE.
Hahaha you don't have any the Chinese are coming very soon
Maybe focus on ending the war with a treaty instead of prolonging it to make the MIC richer?
It's can't change anything only dream making
All I see in this video are salesmen trying to convince the general opinion that the government should BUY this product from the factory they work for.
Will surely help them just like the leopard's, javelins, himars etc
Where’s the Abrams
They are too afraid it will be capture. 😂🤣
I think you are just burning more weapons
That's the point. Weapons should be used, specially in Russian nazi instead of being in storage lol
Lmao you stooge, U do know Russians kicked nazis ? History is never taught in USA. It is only arrogance. Ukraine Azov nazis are all dead... @@luanpham0586
@@luanpham0586You mean Ukrainian Nazis and dictator Zelenskyy. The Azov battalion are Nazis in the Ukrainian military. Did you know that ethnic Ukrainians sided with Nazi Germany during ww2 which led to the death of 900k Ukrainian Jews? These are the people you support. 🙄
so what happened to hundreds of planes ukraine had before war?
They toast😂😂
They barely had 150 planes+helis at start. Some were destroyed first day. Their MiG29 can't compare with Russia's next gen Su's and Ukraine only has few old Su's that they are using now to launch StormShadows. Their Tu's were dismantled in the 2000s at Russia+USA request!
Worrying thing about these F 16’s Ukraine is likely to send them to Moscow rather than front line
@@paulthomas-hh2kv That's stupid. F-16s are not stealth bombers/aircrafts!
@@umbraunuivis Zelenski’s desperate enough to try it
There's a difference between promising something and delivering something.
Yes we're all familiar with how politicians work. 😂
The one guy says fighter jets aren't what Ukraine most needs now... They won't be using them right now. January at the earliest. But they needed them before this current counter offensive began. I also find it amusing the guy doesn't tell us what HE thinks they most need now. NATO forces cannot conduct combined arms offensives without air cover, and Ukraine is conducting a counter offensive with no air cover.
Himars are Gamchanger
Then Leopards
Cluster bombs
Storm Shadow
Now F16
The game is tired itself of not changing, if UKR cannot change the game this time, RU may end it.
One more thing RU has S400 air defence
Not just s-300, S-400, but S-500 and they claim the S-550 can stop hyper sonic missiles something the NATO cannot do. World War 3 is the end of this if Ukraine doesn't surrender.
True, I think the US should get involved directly and attack Russia from Japan. Drive west across Siberia, bombing all power plants, factories, make mincemeat of the Russian heartland
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It's not a silver bullet, but each introduction of something new has changed the battlefield. Especially HIMARS forced the Russians to move many HQs and ammo dumps out of HIMARS range. Storm Shadow also makes it quite a lot worse to be at an ammo dump or HQ.
Russia doesn't have that many S400 available, but S300 will also do the job. F-16 can probably force the Ka-52 back from the frontline though, at least make it much more high risk to use them.
It's always worrisome to hear someone say "winning a war". What kind of humanity dysfunction, "wins" a war? Hopefully the losing by everyone involved (especially those closest to it) can stop soon.
you know it. besides these a holes are total liars. Russia has about 50 thousand casualties give or take about 10 more wounded. about 40 - 50 dead. Ukraine has 350 about dead and about another 50-70 thousand amputees' and casualties. 20 000 min amputees'. it's disgusting that the west has been lied to and puts up with the bs news that does. total war crime on the part of the likes of nulund and lindsey Graham.
Its all geopolitical. The US And russia do not need to do it but the weapons lobby in quite strong in US and therefore this war continues to go on.
Who is making money? Weapon manufacturers in US
Who is struggling: world econ, people in europe, specially Ukrainians and russians
I hate how these big world powers do whatever they want and then put propaganda in news showing "ukraine is winning" etc. Winning my foot. If russia wanted, they could have finished this war
that's just marketing. obviously nobody is winning anything from this war other than the military contractors.
The allies win WW2 , with great cost
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Greedy,grunting, beggar Jwlenksky is loosing western greedom and kleptocracy.
decaying 1970s tech is indeed a game changer
seems those low cost drone are more power weapon
The F-16 and Leopard 2 are both nearing the end of their 50 year economic life, and are already scheduled for replacement, with little remaining value, except in Ukraine.
However, they can both handle modern weapons systems and electronics that MIG-29 and T-72 cannot.
Dropping cluster bombs on minefields and trenches is not the same as dropping them on civilians.
It took over a month to clear local minefields and defenses after D-Day before major advances were made, so the tide in Ukraine has already started to turn... lol
thats lot of cope james, you overdosed on copium again. how many times we gotta teach you this lesson old man!!
Denmark had a problem to where to get the old F-16s scrapped after buying 27 new F-35s, the solution is apparently sending them to a scrapyard called Ukraine....
and get money from it...this time if the scrapper wins, they have to pay Denmark back with interest. It's a win-win for Denmark but lose lose for Ukraine, even if they win from Russia. they will be forever in debt to the EU...this is why many Ukrainians just surrender to Russia by calling 146.999 freq and saying Volga.
One thing that is really messing Ukraine up right now are the Russian minefields, maybe they need more engineering equipment to get through those and that would make more immediate difference whilst they are conducting an offensive.
Allow me to correct the title for you : "How Dutch weapons like F16's can .........."
There you go.
They are American designed, they haven't been built in the US.
The Dutch F-16's have been build, to specifications, by Fokker in the Netherlands.
Under another YT video of the same sort, someone even wrote 'Go, USA !' ..
Excuse me. those are Dutch fighter jets, a Dutch donation, decided on by the Dutch.
All the US had to do was give permission. Don't you dare cheer on the US when the Netherlands donates F-16's to Ukraine.
But I thought Ukraine already won, the news told me so 😖
Ukraine has been winning since the start of this conflict, according to the pervasive liberal media.
They'll steamroll to Moscow anytime now.
I thought Russian captured bakmuke in 1 week, the Russian fake news told me so lol
@@luanpham0586 the contrast is that russia actually captured Backhmut.
@@John_Doe448 yeah yeah and here I think a Russian bot won't admit the Russians are a bunch of liars lol
News never told you that. Everyone knows it's a long fight, but Russia is losing, and that will continue.
Same as they said with tanks, hawzards and missiles. But it didn't.
I am Concerned how they will handle such an Airplane...Certainly is no Mig 21or29!!!Good Luck Do! I wish they Master it
What's missing from this conversation is the fact that
കർത്താവായ യേശു നിന്നെ സ്നേഹിക്കുന്നു. നീ നിരാശപ്പെടരുത്. യേശുവിനോട് പ്രാർത്ഥിക്കുക.
It’s not the f-6, it’s the vacuum effect of the nukes, f22s and b52s that follow ….
@0:12, the correct title of Mr Bradley Bowman: Senior Director, Center for Military and Political Power, Foundation for Defense Contractors and Industry.
It depends if the money has been spent on weapons effectives. Or if the money has been spent on a stock buybacks, payoffs to retiring US generals and campaign contributions.
The money sent? It is a drop in the bucket compared to having to mobilize the US military to war. It is more cost-effective to have Russia crash on the rocks in Ukraine.
To push a cost of the industrial complex is a Russian GRU misinformation used to get the west to back out of supporting the Ukrainians.
But keep trying, comrade. May Putin and Xi fall in disgrace sooner rather than later.
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 ♥️ 🇺🇸
The Danes and Dutch are supplying this batch.
@@ImYourAverageJoe purchased from whom may I ask. It is just laundered for plausible deniability to the average Joe.
What core US or EU interest?
making lots of money of course.
I think A-10 and Apaches have more potencial, and Gripen are more prepare to work without airfields!