If only there was a way to charge multibillion-dollar enterprises rates for electricity that would provide the infrastructure funding needed to avoid the problem they’re creating…
Data centers in Hillsboro use more energy than all the houses in Washington county combined! What's more important having heat in the winter or Google/Facebook/AI datacenters?free
The big energy consumption of new data centers is the result of the emergence of AI technology. I think, given a choice between electrification of our transportation sector, or building out AI, that it's best to delay rollout of AI, and delay the construction of new data centers until solar and wind energy installations are built to support that new energy demand. Current needs for already existing homes and businesses are far more important then AI.
Even PGE admits residential use only increased 5% the last 5 years, while industrial demand went up 34%. But yeah let's use more coal and nuclear. What could possibly go wrong🙄
"but yeah let's use more coal and nuclear. What could possibly go wrong" Having an abundance of energy? If you have ever seen a lithium mine, you wouldn't complain about coal, gas or nuclear, because coal mine create just a fraction of environmental damage that a lithium mine creates, and then the disposal of lithium batteries is more toxic than all other forms of energy creation combined... Then there's those unrecyclable wind turbines...
@@charlesm2437the reactors are 1000x safer than they’ve ever been now, and the waste is almost null. Even then whatever waste there is can be converted into usable fuel with diamond battery technology. It’s the best energy source for the future to keep up with electric demands
Keep breaching dams, closing coal and natural gas plants. There will be blackouts and no more economic development in Oregon. Ratepayers are already paying to much for electricity and you have prospect of blackouts, just like California.
I have always thought it was poor planning & thought to close the Boardman coal plant that was still viable for many years. The solar farm next to my small farm I`m sure is just going gang busters providing power this cold & cloudy fall!
Wind turbines provide substantial amounts of electricity during the winter months when solar farms are producing less. I have solar on my home, and on overcast, but still bright days they still put out at least a third of peak summer time production, but on the really dark overcast days...not so much.
y'all can deal with this. I don't have an electrical line running to my property, or electrical instability, or every growing double digit rate increases. I generate my own, in cloudy Oregon, and you helped pay for it.
If only there was a way to charge multibillion-dollar enterprises rates for electricity that would provide the infrastructure funding needed to avoid the problem they’re creating…
Data centers in Hillsboro use more energy than all the houses in Washington county combined! What's more important having heat in the winter or Google/Facebook/AI datacenters?free
We supply half of california and nevada electricity. This is nonsense.
Not to mention all the electric cars the greenies want to put on the road.
Herd from insider as cam "was off" yet they outed him anyways.
I tbink we can all agree to SHUT DOWN DATA CENTERS. We dont need SURVEILLANCE!!!
They aren’t going to let go of all they’ve encroached upon
@1erinjames true, but we can HOPE
Respectfully..you're using UA-cam..which needs servers...which are in data centers. Agree that mass surveillance sucks though.
The big energy consumption of new data centers is the result of the emergence of AI technology.
I think, given a choice between electrification of our transportation sector, or building out AI, that it's best to delay rollout of AI, and delay the construction of new data centers until solar and wind energy installations are built to support that new energy demand.
Current needs for already existing homes and businesses are far more important then AI.
@docwatson1134 your argument is good
Even PGE admits residential use only increased 5% the last 5 years, while industrial demand went up 34%. But yeah let's use more coal and nuclear. What could possibly go wrong🙄
"but yeah let's use more coal and nuclear. What could possibly go wrong"
Having an abundance of energy?
If you have ever seen a lithium mine, you wouldn't complain about coal, gas or nuclear, because coal mine create just a fraction of environmental damage that a lithium mine creates, and then the disposal of lithium batteries is more toxic than all other forms of energy creation combined...
Then there's those unrecyclable wind turbines...
Corporations owned by billionaires are asking ordinary Oregonians to pay for their data centers. Maybe Luigi was on to something....
Nuclear
Sounds good -- as long as the reactors and waste are near your backyard
@@charlesm2437they already are... Right on the Columbia River.
Ever seen a lithium mine?
@@charlesm2437the reactors are 1000x safer than they’ve ever been now, and the waste is almost null. Even then whatever waste there is can be converted into usable fuel with diamond battery technology. It’s the best energy source for the future to keep up with electric demands
Don't worry, I'm sure another energy company like Enron will save you!
Keep breaching dams, closing coal and natural gas plants. There will be blackouts and no more economic development in Oregon. Ratepayers are already paying to much for electricity and you have prospect of blackouts, just like California.
I have always thought it was poor planning & thought to close the Boardman coal plant that was still viable for many years. The solar farm next to my small farm I`m sure is just going gang busters providing power this cold & cloudy fall!
Wind turbines provide substantial amounts of electricity during the winter months when solar farms are producing less.
I have solar on my home, and on overcast, but still bright days they still put out at least a third of peak summer time production, but on the really dark overcast days...not so much.
Keep rolling coal, you bumpkin
Meanwhile they're going to make it impossible to operate diesel trucks in the state. Oregon just steamrolling straight back to the stone age.
@@Scroll_Lock Take a deep breath of those diesel fumes lol
y'all can deal with this. I don't have an electrical line running to my property, or electrical instability, or every growing double digit rate increases. I generate my own, in cloudy Oregon, and you helped pay for it.
And when those toxic solar panels stop generating, the landfills are waiting to leach it back into the environment...
The time is now for small scale nuclear reactors
stay out of the northwest. end of argument.