When/why would you ever plug a goggle to USB? There is no internal battery. Updates are over SD card or wireless. Video is via HDMI. DJI’s “Aeroscope” serialized hardware and digital ID registration and tracking system is the only one that would require a plug… no one else does, or will ever, do this. The micro-B port on the VRX board is for factory diagnostics, hardware comes with all kinds of diagnostic ports, but usually pogo pins in mass manufacturing. Caddx isn’t a huge corporation making millions of pieces of hardware so it’s easier to just put a random, non user accessible, port instead of requiring a diagnostic fixture/automation system.
Charging USB c is the most common charger ever and anything I own that doesn't have it always is a pain to find the charger. It wouldn't be a big deal except I have like twenty different chargers for different things and my daughter loses some or I do. It would be sooo much better if everything was just USB c
@@wildweasel6898 You do realise that 99% of usb cables and power banks will only do 5v, and no fpv goggles will run off 5v, and these don't have an internal battery to charge...
This is off topic but your wrist tattoo tells me that you too are a man of culture. So now I feel obligated to mention this shirt I got recently that says "Save the Manuals" with like like 30 different shift patterns under it. Also, love your fpv content bro
The fact that they just shipped goggles with a replaceable vrx tells me that there's an update coming in the next year or so and they thought hey you know what would be a great feature to add to increase cashflow now without making everyone angry in a year?
August of 2024 they are shooting to release the next VRX. Said it will have more range and penetration. Basically the current chipset isn't made anymore. The ones they are switching to offers a little but more performance. But they did announce August will be the release and you can upgrade these goggles with that VRX set to release in August
@@xORLOCKx oh okay I misunderstood at first but I reread your comment. Basically they designed the goggles to he able to fit the next model vrx they release and hopefully others in the future as well. That's good
Dude... They look sick. I'm still gonna wait a year or 2 before I make the jump to digital. It's pretty exciting seeing HDZero, Walksnail and maybe Orqa creating some good systems.
Hey! Been watching a lot of your videos and want to say I've learned a TON from you! I'm looking to get into FPV and watched this video. i wanted to ask: how do these compare today? I dont like the idea of spending hand over fist for new equipment constantly and like the jdea of these goggles being future-proof. Other commentors mentioned upgrading the patch antennas for a more comparable experience as the DJI Goggles 2; what would that patch be? Thanks again for the great content!
Damnit, I got the Avatar ones and flew them first time today and now these are out . I'm sad but also like the Avatar ones, they are my first fpv glasses. Newbie here hehe
I'm new too but I wouldn't worry about it. It seems like every 3 months every brand of every product releases a new version and ditches the old one. I don't get it but whatever lol
These literally just released and allegedly the chipset they use is no longer available and they are already talking about the new model coming in 2024 😂🤷♂️
@@wutufux1336 mmm maybe I'm not sure exactly how it will play out but someone elaborated for my understanding: They said these goggles are designed to have a replaceable vtx because they are about to drop a new model vtx very soon that will be an upgrade/have better preformance. So this way if you want to order these goggles now, even tho upgrades are right around the corner about to be released; you won't be left behind because you can just buy the upgraded vtx when it comes out and use it on these goggles. So this is actually a good thing to see, they are actually designing their products with the consideration in mind that the industry changes and advances quickly.
@wutufux7570 ya I just bought the avatar 3 months ago so I sold them on ebay and pre ordered the x's. I sold my avatar for 400 but after fees I had to put 100 bucks with it for the new goggles. So am kinda pissed. But I hated my eye lashes hitting the screen and the fogging I live in FL. The dji goggles 2 foam fits the x.
Thanks for another great video. I haven't gone digital yet and I'm sort of disenchanted with DJI as a company so I would consider Walksnail. I do think "future proof" is a very dubious claim. There is no guarantee they will make upgraded boards and we don't know the price even if they do so... but i do appreciate you doing these tests against the DJI MACHINE lol. Your vids are always very well produced and are full of useful information. Sincerely, thank you.
It’ll be interesting to see what PCB’s they come out with in the future and how much they cost! I have high hopes for caddx/walksnail catching up to the capabilities of DJI. I feel like they’re so close
When DJI releases O4 air unit it will blow anything out of the water. I have a mini 4 pro and it has ridiculous rage an penetration, probably double or more than my O3 FPVs.
I just realized you did this testing with stock antennas 😮, so walksnail could get even better. Do you see any reason in owning both Walksnail and DJI?
@BobBobsta I was surprised but it works fine for me just looking thru one eye, other side is blurry but I don't think lens' would even help me with that lol
@BobBobsta eh, im pretty happy witht the way it is, I'm legally blind in my right eye and glasses have never helped so I've learned to adapt over the years
Im wondering if this new vrx board could be used for a light weight simple antenna tracker setup. How is the HDMI out connected to the board you lifted out?
Seems they stutter very slightly, seen on a few reviews it’s slight but enough to keep me away until that’s fixed, not so bad when flying slow but anything fast paced will cost you money 💴
does anybody know of any higher quality antennas? I see that the dji goggles are capable of 10 km transmission distance while the walksnail is only capable of about 2.5. i am currently about to buy my first set of goggles and really like the walksnail goggles, but numbers dont lie..... any suggestions? thanks.
But you're future proof to 1080p 100hz which it's already at, if they release a 4k goggle these won't work due to the limitations of the optics future proff sound kinda like a gimmick
To start off, I would do some crazy research on the main parts of fpv/the quads. Learn what radio systems are, video systems, and more about how they fly. These googles can't connect to the O3 as every digital video system is locked into their own ecosystems. Watch some videos on the differences between them, and pick which one fits best for how you want to fly!
And can you make a link of everything I need to buy to get started. I'm new to this . I'm new to this so I bought a frame and then I got confused with buying the other parts and what I need I want to make a 5-inch fpv drone
@@TRONCATFPV the one palmer was making, when i first saw the videos thumbnail i saw the 2 opposing caps on the bottom and i instantly thought of the ones palmer made where there are 3 caps on the top, im pretty sure palmer was joking about making vr goggles that explode since i havent heard about it in like a year.
some1 in the community needs to write another ''latency'' timer program! & a legacy usb-SS driver...hi geeks! led emits so much noise, & no 1 filters them! idke.
1080p and IMU tracking, you call that future proof ? What a joke ! I bet the data transmission protocol are proprietary too Also antenna attached to the headset ? That's hella dumb. You put those on an antenna tracker.
Can you share a link to a set of current FPV goggles that are capable of 4K 120fps low latency video transmission? Make sure you're looking at video transmission quality in the goggles, not what the camera on the drone is filming in. Two very different specs. DJI isn't even capable of 4K fpv video transmission.
@@theworst9568 Whoops looks like you forgot to watch an entire segment of the video! 4:00 - 8:00 I go over the removeable VRX module that is the upgradeable PCB. According to Walksnail, future VRX improvements would be released on a similar form factor PCB that can easily be installed. I'm excited to see these 4K 120fps FPV goggles you mentioned. They must be pre-release!
For walksnail, You should replace two of those stubby antennas with two patch antennas and then the comparison will be more accurate. Great video 🤙🤙
Any product that ships in 2023 that doesn’t have USB C just makes me upset
When/why would you ever plug a goggle to USB?
There is no internal battery. Updates are over SD card or wireless. Video is via HDMI.
DJI’s “Aeroscope” serialized hardware and digital ID registration and tracking system is the only one that would require a plug… no one else does, or will ever, do this.
The micro-B port on the VRX board is for factory diagnostics, hardware comes with all kinds of diagnostic ports, but usually pogo pins in mass manufacturing.
Caddx isn’t a huge corporation making millions of pieces of hardware so it’s easier to just put a random, non user accessible, port instead of requiring a diagnostic fixture/automation system.
Charging USB c is the most common charger ever and anything I own that doesn't have it always is a pain to find the charger. It wouldn't be a big deal except I have like twenty different chargers for different things and my daughter loses some or I do. It would be sooo much better if everything was just USB c
The IPhone now ships with usb c 😂😂😂
@@wildweasel6898yea but these don’t have a internal battery
@@wildweasel6898 You do realise that 99% of usb cables and power banks will only do 5v, and no fpv goggles will run off 5v, and these don't have an internal battery to charge...
This is off topic but your wrist tattoo tells me that you too are a man of culture. So now I feel obligated to mention this shirt I got recently that says "Save the Manuals" with like like 30 different shift patterns under it. Also, love your fpv content bro
I am 28 and I've never even sat in an auto. They just aren't a thing here so it's funny to hear people so passionate about manuals
He drives a tesla
That upgradable module is a very compelling feature.
Right?
I’m very curious to see how much an upgraded PCB costs and even how often they come out with them
The fact that they just shipped goggles with a replaceable vrx tells me that there's an update coming in the next year or so and they thought hey you know what would be a great feature to add to increase cashflow now without making everyone angry in a year?
August of 2024 they are shooting to release the next VRX. Said it will have more range and penetration. Basically the current chipset isn't made anymore. The ones they are switching to offers a little but more performance. But they did announce August will be the release and you can upgrade these goggles with that VRX set to release in August
@@xORLOCKxso the chips set is no longer available for the goggles that literally just released.
I do not understand this hobby
@@RandoManFPV the VRX. Hence why they are advertising the ability to upgrade the VRX later. The artisan chipset is no longer produced.
@@xORLOCKx oh okay I misunderstood at first but I reread your comment.
Basically they designed the goggles to he able to fit the next model vrx they release and hopefully others in the future as well. That's good
@@RandoManFPVcorrect
From my experience with talking on radio the antenna is always the most important part, the better the antenna the better the reception
Dude... They look sick. I'm still gonna wait a year or 2 before I make the jump to digital. It's pretty exciting seeing HDZero, Walksnail and maybe Orqa creating some good systems.
Orqa🤣
@@MrLootshootidk what’s so funny about it? Orqa is creating their own digital system
@@pulsartech2945 whatever you say fella😶🌫
@@MrLootshoot I don’t know why you’re struggling with doing a simple Google search about the orca HD system?
@@pulsartech2945 🤣whatever
The "patch antenna" is the WiFi antenna.
the "5ghz wifi" band lies in 5.875-5.895Ghz range, could be possible they use it for both WiFi and 5.8ghz video
You know what else is massive the low taper fade😂
Hey! Been watching a lot of your videos and want to say I've learned a TON from you! I'm looking to get into FPV and watched this video. i wanted to ask: how do these compare today? I dont like the idea of spending hand over fist for new equipment constantly and like the jdea of these goggles being future-proof. Other commentors mentioned upgrading the patch antennas for a more comparable experience as the DJI Goggles 2; what would that patch be? Thanks again for the great content!
The "patch antenna" on the top is either wifi or bluetooth antenna, i don't think it has anything to do with the video system
Damnit, I got the Avatar ones and flew them first time today and now these are out . I'm sad but also like the Avatar ones, they are my first fpv glasses. Newbie here hehe
I'm new too but I wouldn't worry about it. It seems like every 3 months every brand of every product releases a new version and ditches the old one. I don't get it but whatever lol
These literally just released and allegedly the chipset they use is no longer available and they are already talking about the new model coming in 2024 😂🤷♂️
@@RandoManFPV wtf for real? So basically they will be out of stock soon and then a new model will come out?
@@wutufux1336 mmm maybe I'm not sure exactly how it will play out but someone elaborated for my understanding:
They said these goggles are designed to have a replaceable vtx because they are about to drop a new model vtx very soon that will be an upgrade/have better preformance.
So this way if you want to order these goggles now, even tho upgrades are right around the corner about to be released; you won't be left behind because you can just buy the upgraded vtx when it comes out and use it on these goggles.
So this is actually a good thing to see, they are actually designing their products with the consideration in mind that the industry changes and advances quickly.
@wutufux7570 ya I just bought the avatar 3 months ago so I sold them on ebay and pre ordered the x's. I sold my avatar for 400 but after fees I had to put 100 bucks with it for the new goggles. So am kinda pissed. But I hated my eye lashes hitting the screen and the fogging I live in FL. The dji goggles 2 foam fits the x.
Thanks for another great video. I haven't gone digital yet and I'm sort of disenchanted with DJI as a company so I would consider Walksnail. I do think "future proof" is a very dubious claim. There is no guarantee they will make upgraded boards and we don't know the price even if they do so... but i do appreciate you doing these tests against the DJI MACHINE lol. Your vids are always very well produced and are full of useful information. Sincerely, thank you.
It’ll be interesting to see what PCB’s they come out with in the future and how much they cost!
I have high hopes for caddx/walksnail catching up to the capabilities of DJI. I feel like they’re so close
When DJI releases O4 air unit it will blow anything out of the water. I have a mini 4 pro and it has ridiculous rage an penetration, probably double or more than my O3 FPVs.
I just realized you did this testing with stock antennas 😮, so walksnail could get even better. Do you see any reason in owning both Walksnail and DJI?
I got the caddx gofilm 20 specifically to do commercial work, I also just passed my part 107 omg so happy... My other channel shows all of this...
Do goggles like these work well if u only have 1 good eye?
You can get prescriptions lenses that klick in infront of the lens in the google so you should be good
@BobBobsta I was surprised but it works fine for me just looking thru one eye, other side is blurry but I don't think lens' would even help me with that lol
@@Todd_G_FPV could try it.
@BobBobsta eh, im pretty happy witht the way it is, I'm legally blind in my right eye and glasses have never helped so I've learned to adapt over the years
Is it possible to get something like a chimera and use fpv and the rc joysticks from Dji
Im wondering if this new vrx board could be used for a light weight simple antenna tracker setup. How is the HDMI out connected to the board you lifted out?
Is that the same as face tracking?
videos are always on point
How did the Walksnail performed on 700 mw
Seems they stutter very slightly, seen on a few reviews it’s slight but enough to keep me away until that’s fixed, not so bad when flying slow but anything fast paced will cost you money 💴
Looks like the vrx is same one they put on walksnail googles v1.. coz the date print is 2023-04-21 been manufactured ..
ORQA told us the same future proof dream. I don't want to be hurt again.
I'm so cornfused,,,, vista connects to dji goggles?!? Does air 3 connect to walksnail x goggles!?!
Can you connect it to a monitor
Via hdmi port
would the orqa strap fit on the walksnail goggles??
does anybody know of any higher quality antennas? I see that the dji goggles are capable of 10 km transmission distance while the walksnail is only capable of about 2.5. i am currently about to buy my first set of goggles and really like the walksnail goggles, but numbers dont lie.....
any suggestions? thanks.
Is the upper patch antennas used if you fly over yourself? I dont see the point in this feature.
Upper antenna is actually WiFi, I misspoke
Where's Bardwell on this???
He is on a work trip.
I’m sure he will get to it, when he has a chance.
going to china, checking dji new goggles
@@lemonsquareFPV Oh right, great timing lol
@@circlearoundtheworlddji new goggles 😮
Glad to see how good is the qav whoop flying ❤❤
QAV Whoop has been flying like a dream!
Patch antenna? isn't that Wifi antenna?
yessir, thats the WiFi antenna. Was given limited info on the goggles and thought it was a patch. It's wifi 🤙
I can't find them in stock
top plate antenna is wifi antenna
Thanks 4 the video. Is it possible to conntect it to a PC to use it for example with a Simulator? 🙏🏽
With hdmi port...
@@flighttrain71 How's the latency? 🙃
Idk a value, but probably very low because it is not wireless...
700 mw test coming up?
I can tell Fatshark wasn't involved with this because of the SD card placement
Same spot my SD card is and same box. It's possible.
But you're future proof to 1080p 100hz which it's already at, if they release a 4k goggle these won't work due to the limitations of the optics future proff sound kinda like a gimmick
You are never getting 4K goggle lol
@@dominickeen6091i doubt you could even see a big difference between 1080p and 4k with a goggle lol
im very new to FPV, i want to be a FPV pilot, can someone tell me how i should start . Also can i connect Walksnail goggles to dji o3 ?
To start off, I would do some crazy research on the main parts of fpv/the quads. Learn what radio systems are, video systems, and more about how they fly. These googles can't connect to the O3 as every digital video system is locked into their own ecosystems. Watch some videos on the differences between them, and pick which one fits best for how you want to fly!
Hi :) can I have the DJI o3 and use a radiomaster tx16s ?
The analog goggles I use are Orqa FPV Pilot one goggles with a rapidfire module
And can you make a link of everything I need to buy to get started. I'm new to this . I'm new to this so I bought a frame and then I got confused with buying the other parts and what I need I want to make a 5-inch fpv drone
Does it got the recording options like DJI does? Or is it just flying with good vision?
I’m pretty sure that all avatar VTX modules come with onboard storage for video recording 🤙
Also the goggles record the video, that’s what the micro sd card slot is for
make it compatible with dji drones
Shiiiiit I literally just got my Fat Shark Dominators. Guess I'll be upgrading
How much does it cost
listed at $459.00
$436 at Flywoo
The building got something blocking it
for a second i thought you had the goggles that will explode
Enlighten me, what goggles are exploding?
@@TRONCATFPV the one palmer was making, when i first saw the videos thumbnail i saw the 2 opposing caps on the bottom and i instantly thought of the ones palmer made where there are 3 caps on the top, im pretty sure palmer was joking about making vr goggles that explode since i havent heard about it in like a year.
@@TRONCATFPV nice video though
i refuse to get back in to fpv until they make goggles that have the big screens like vr headsets
I have meta Quest 3 and dji Integra. You are right the screen size of the Integra is rediculous in comparison with Quest 3 unfortunatelly.
why would anyone switch from DJI if the quaity is same? Unless price is half or image is 2x of DJI there is no point of switching.
Can't upgrade internals/PCB on DJI goggles
Dji can lock you out of your own device right?
Nice insights. Thank you!
Why is the Walksnail screen shaking so much? I've seen several snail videos posted by UA-cam that have this image-transmission screen shaking.
Those are pretty sick looking!
🤔I'll wait on the DJI Avatar V2 and their New Googles X 😁
lets see a 5" freestyle rip with these if you can on a v2 vtx. Great video btw thanks.
they should have made head tracking built in.
Awesome review, MAN that BetaFPV rig is a jelloey mess lol
yea dude, after I took the vista unit out it got all sorts of f*cked up lmao
how to buy this product buy ..link
Link in description
Aww i want walksnail avatar 😅
Ill take good care of your dji pair for ya!
How many hours of use before you get eyeball cancer?
some1 in the community needs to write another ''latency'' timer program!
& a legacy usb-SS driver...hi geeks! led emits so much noise, & no 1 filters them! idke.
upgrade your antenna
Bro iwant our googles
So that's what he looks like.
I’ll make an appearance here and there, otherwise I typically like to keep the focus on the equipment I’m testing out 🤙
too many jello effects are in Walksnail drone
And the color of DJI is more natural
footage looked very janky and it dropped to 1.2 MBPS when u armed im sure all this can be ironed out but for now ill stick with dji
Yall want digital wait till they start charging for updates in do time in do time
still too bulky. I was hoping for it to be smaller
like your videos!
Almost matching dji with a promise of future upgrade, not good enough.
1080p and IMU tracking, you call that future proof ? What a joke !
I bet the data transmission protocol are proprietary too
Also antenna attached to the headset ? That's hella dumb. You put those on an antenna tracker.
If it's not capable of 8k at 240fps. It's nowhere near future-proof. They don't even meet the current industry standard of 4k 120fps.
Can you share a link to a set of current FPV goggles that are capable of 4K 120fps low latency video transmission?
Make sure you're looking at video transmission quality in the goggles, not what the camera on the drone is filming in. Two very different specs. DJI isn't even capable of 4K fpv video transmission.
@@TRONCATFPV Sure thing as soon as you can show me how those are "Future proof". That would mean no other goggles are ever coming out to replace them.
@@theworst9568 Whoops looks like you forgot to watch an entire segment of the video! 4:00 - 8:00 I go over the removeable VRX module that is the upgradeable PCB. According to Walksnail, future VRX improvements would be released on a similar form factor PCB that can easily be installed.
I'm excited to see these 4K 120fps FPV goggles you mentioned. They must be pre-release!
Nothing is future proof.
50 Degree FOV? Pshhhh!no thanks. Buy a quest 2 for 200 off craigslist.
Best of luck using a pair of Oculus goggles for an FPV drone
DJI goggles integra are hands down better than these ex goggles, they look stupid. They look cheap and like a toy
So it took almost 10 minutes for me to figure out that this was a headset for a drone,
No preface in the title or explanation , Just a waste of time
"FPV" in the title didn't give it away? 💀