11:32 I’m sure troops were thrilled to carry larger volume in wooden tent pegs than the totality of 2 meals required. In fact I’d bet as many as could dumped the entire tent & components in favor of more socks, maybe some underwear, a watchmen’s cap, extra food or even an additional bandolier of ammo
A thing on the bayonet which you probably already know but others might not = The haversack was originally meant to fit the 16-inch M1905 bayonet for the M1903 Springfield rifle, not the 10-inch M1 bayonet for the Garand. Leading up to Normandy, most new units would have been issued with newer packs instead of those insane origami haversacks. Only the veterans of Italy and North Africa would still have the haversack, and they'd be dumping them as fast as possible for the newer gear. But all that is for Europe. I have no idea what Army units assigned to the Pacific of CBI Theaters would have used.
The haversack was still the primary pack in Normandie. It can be seen all over the place. Not seen much evidence of many soliders getting lucky enough to have a musette bag and the m44 field bags dont get seen in use untill right at the end. If you know of another bit of gear I have missed out though please do share as I would like to know what ive missed. The Marine core haversacks were superior. They were much closer to the m44 packs.
The only thing I saw missing was the meatcan pouch's leather insert/sheath for the knife, and I've only seen one of those non-repro in the last twenty five years. Other than that, you seem spot-on.
From videos from WW2 most soldiers when they hit Europe. Dumbed their tents. In favor of food and clean clothing. They either slept in someones house or foxhole. They did carrying some kind wet weather gear.
What a Complicated Assembly...didn't they learn anything from the British, the French, the Germans etc from WWI??? A simple Boxlike Backpack, both for Combat and for Marching Order; Only Late in WWII did the Bag/ Box type Backpack come into use with USMC etc. Some say the American Armed Forces were a " bit slow" where Field Gear is concerned! DocAV
Yeah I know :) I do not really understand why they did not update it on wartime models to be more suitable for the 10inch one. If they decided it just was not worth it Then They could of jsut deleted it but they still have the feature all the way up to the m45 packs!
@@Truffle1947 I own an original M28 with original belt, a M35 Musette bag and a 1942 dated bayonet. My M1910 e-tool carrier and pack tail are reproductions along with the 16 inch bayonet
@@Truffle1947 my maternal grandfather served in Europe during WW2. His division became known as Roosevelt's SS by the Germans. He was in the US 40th ID 117th IR
Afraid not mate. It is still on my list of things to do! One of my oldest videos shows how to make a basic bedroll but I have not do the full one that I mentioned doing in this video yet. I will make a point of getting to it!
The chances are that both of those items were put there by troops. I have certainly seen coats there. But if you are lucky enough to have an extra blanket I am sure someone must of done that.
11:32 I’m sure troops were thrilled to carry larger volume in wooden tent pegs than the totality of 2 meals required. In fact I’d bet as many as could dumped the entire tent & components in favor of more socks, maybe some underwear, a watchmen’s cap, extra food or even an additional bandolier of ammo
Looks great! Really enjoyed the walk through! Thanks!
Hope it helped. I was struggling to get my words out today!
A thing on the bayonet which you probably already know but others might not = The haversack was originally meant to fit the 16-inch M1905 bayonet for the M1903 Springfield rifle, not the 10-inch M1 bayonet for the Garand. Leading up to Normandy, most new units would have been issued with newer packs instead of those insane origami haversacks. Only the veterans of Italy and North Africa would still have the haversack, and they'd be dumping them as fast as possible for the newer gear. But all that is for Europe. I have no idea what Army units assigned to the Pacific of CBI Theaters would have used.
The haversack was still the primary pack in Normandie. It can be seen all over the place. Not seen much evidence of many soliders getting lucky enough to have a musette bag and the m44 field bags dont get seen in use untill right at the end.
If you know of another bit of gear I have missed out though please do share as I would like to know what ive missed.
The Marine core haversacks were superior. They were much closer to the m44 packs.
The only thing I saw missing was the meatcan pouch's leather insert/sheath for the knife, and I've only seen one of those non-repro in the last twenty five years. Other than that, you seem spot-on.
I managed to get hold of one that I am pretty sure is original now. But Only for the knife.
I'm getting a 1928 haversack, 30. 6 cartridge belt and a canteen soon
Did you get your haversack? Sorry I only just saw this message for some reason!
From videos from WW2 most soldiers when they hit Europe. Dumbed their tents. In favor of food and clean clothing. They either slept in someones house or foxhole. They did carrying some kind wet weather gear.
Great video
Thanks mate.
What a Complicated Assembly...didn't they learn anything from the British, the French, the Germans etc from
WWI???
A simple Boxlike Backpack, both for Combat and for Marching Order; Only Late in WWII did the Bag/ Box type Backpack come into use with USMC etc.
Some say the American Armed Forces were a " bit slow"
where Field Gear is concerned!
DocAV
It blows my mind to. Everytime I use it i just think.....why? lol
The hanger for the bayonet was actually designed for use with the 16 inch bayonet for the M1903 Springfield
Yeah I know :) I do not really understand why they did not update it on wartime models to be more suitable for the 10inch one. If they decided it just was not worth it Then They could of jsut deleted it but they still have the feature all the way up to the m45 packs!
@@Truffle1947 I own an original M28 with original belt, a M35 Musette bag and a 1942 dated bayonet. My M1910 e-tool carrier and pack tail are reproductions along with the 16 inch bayonet
Sounds good mate. I have a nice original m43 etool cover but have not been able to get an original m1910 etool cover yet :(
@@Truffle1947 my maternal grandfather served in Europe during WW2. His division became known as Roosevelt's SS by the Germans. He was in the US 40th ID 117th IR
That is a nice link to have to the past :)
And all this done with wet and cold hands, in the dark …. this kit was simply dumped in combat!
Yeah it must of been horrible.
How’d you fold your shelter half?
Basically lay it flat.
Then fold the triangular end in to make a square and the basically fold in half repeatedly untill its the size you want 😁
I can't be the only one who thought they were seeing a tank instead of a haversack for a split 2 seconds seeing the thumbnail
Ha. Now I have seen it I cannot unsee it
Have you done the 2nd video with bedroll etc yet ?
Afraid not mate. It is still on my list of things to do!
One of my oldest videos shows how to make a basic bedroll but I have not do the full one that I mentioned doing in this video yet. I will make a point of getting to it!
Thanks for reply. When you see the item rolled and tied in cover around the top of the pack is this the blanket or the Rain coat ? Cheers.
The chances are that both of those items were put there by troops. I have certainly seen coats there. But if you are lucky enough to have an extra blanket I am sure someone must of done that.
This is difficult for me, I think I got a defect haversack or meat can pouch, shame, just jot a 43 shovel
What makes you think it has a defect?
It won't fit the cover, even if it doesn't have the shovel in it. The haversack also has surplus markings
@@TheRealJoltguy That is a pain. Could you modify the meat can pouch?
Don't think so 😔