Cessna Citation has PRESSURIZATION ISSUES | Emergency Return

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • 02/APR/2021
    Pacific Coast CJ3 performing flight from Oakland to Bozeman was climbing through FL200 when the pilots reported having a pressurization problem and would descend rapidly to 7000'.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 94

  • @VASAviation
    @VASAviation  3 роки тому +6

    UNEDITED VERSION: ua-cam.com/video/TgtVkueFpHA/v-deo.html

  • @maxpower877
    @maxpower877 3 роки тому +44

    Would love to hear the Ryanair incident

  • @TheFirePilot
    @TheFirePilot 3 роки тому +30

    Your videos are top notch. Quality and useful at the same time. Great job.

  • @dx5018
    @dx5018 3 роки тому +54

    Hi Victor. Can you get the Ryanair-Incident? You can even post it on a new channel

    • @andij605
      @andij605 3 роки тому +5

      Yeah, I so want to hear it, even if it's not translated

    • @justinburstein5349
      @justinburstein5349 3 роки тому +16

      @@andij605 unlikely to need translation. Polish registered jet, Irish ownership, flying Greece to Lithuania....I'm betting all communication was in English.

    • @_cytosine
      @_cytosine 3 роки тому +3

      seconding!

    • @roflchopter11
      @roflchopter11 3 роки тому +4

      Thirded. If that's a thing.

    • @Maxdubi
      @Maxdubi 3 роки тому

      @@roflchopter11 fourthing

  • @willgeorge8368
    @willgeorge8368 3 роки тому +7

    Definitive action by PIC. Professional.

  • @johnclamshellsp1969
    @johnclamshellsp1969 3 роки тому +4

    Good morning VASA, always great videos. Just cloudy and raining here at ORD.

  • @quantumfluxuation
    @quantumfluxuation 3 роки тому +7

    It's weird hearing a call sign you know in one of these..

  • @GeorgeTsiros
    @GeorgeTsiros 3 роки тому +8

    1:00 is _this_ what FCs see? holy shit i'd be overwhelmed out of my mind

    • @starwarsrebel2006
      @starwarsrebel2006 3 роки тому +2

      Very stressful job. Not surprising they're highly paid.

    • @d.t.4523
      @d.t.4523 3 роки тому

      They have a more complex and color coded display. You can see it in some videos. Try a search. 👍

    • @GeorgeTsiros
      @GeorgeTsiros 3 роки тому

      @@d.t.4523 my worst nightmares... but i bet you do NOT see "GUI IMPROVEMENTS IN THE NEW VERSION!!!" here, do you... 😒

  • @Gregorius421
    @Gregorius421 3 роки тому +4

    "Pack Coast 525, do you have fuel onboard and souls?" ... or am I talking to a ghost flight? 😃

  • @Timoteo53575
    @Timoteo53575 3 роки тому +2

    Great sound quality & transcripts. You always do good work. Thanks !

  • @patrickfarrell4678
    @patrickfarrell4678 3 роки тому +1

    Landed ahead of a citation at KROC on Saturday that declared an emergency for pressurization issues as well, and had 5 souls on board. What a coincidence, crazy!

  • @GeorgeTsiros
    @GeorgeTsiros 3 роки тому +5

    oof they made it back safe 🤗

  • @JanPopieluch
    @JanPopieluch 3 роки тому +23

    "Do you have fuel onboard?"
    Well, I would certainly hope so

    • @teelo12000
      @teelo12000 3 роки тому

      Negative tower, we tried to plug the hole in the cabin with the fuel tank but it got sucked outside instead.

    • @LeifNelandDk
      @LeifNelandDk 3 роки тому

      I believe it was "do you have the fuel on board?", i.e. please give me the number of kg or flight time.

    • @JanPopieluch
      @JanPopieluch 3 роки тому +1

      @@LeifNelandDk no shit, Sherlock...

    • @xlr__ryan
      @xlr__ryan 3 роки тому

      No sir, this baby’s electric

    • @sunnyscott4876
      @sunnyscott4876 3 роки тому

      No, we have hamsters in the engines but I think they're getting kinda tired.

  • @ptorres7951
    @ptorres7951 3 роки тому

    Any chance you'll be covering the ATP cessna crash in utah on june 1st?

  • @challenger2ultralightadventure
    @challenger2ultralightadventure 3 роки тому +16

    Being able to breath is rather important. I'm a little surprised that the controller told them to fly at FL20, when they were told they had cabin pressurization issues?! If the pilots were suffering hypoxia, they might have followed those directions, ending in disaster!

    • @EarthAmbassador
      @EarthAmbassador 3 роки тому +8

      Citation would have oxygen for the pilots within arms reach.

    • @cageordie
      @cageordie 3 роки тому +7

      @@EarthAmbassador And 3 severely distressed passengers breathing very thin and cold air at 20,000 feet. Even with passenger oxygen masks, you are breathing oxygen at low pressure. The oxygen generators used for passenger oxygen on most aircraft have very limited duration too.

    • @uhhello173
      @uhhello173 3 роки тому +2

      @@cageordie You have no idea of the issue on board. It didn't sound like the pilots were even on the bottle so it didn't sound too severe.

    • @randominternet5586
      @randominternet5586 3 роки тому +8

      @@uhhello173 You are clueless. The reason these issues stay mellow is you follow procedures and give yourself some buffer. Having pressurization issues - get to a flight level where that is not an issue. There is ton of airspace out there. No reason to sit at 20. If you don't need the lower alt great, you burnt some extra fuel for no reason. If you do need it, you'll be glad to be mellow and lower.

    • @bdunderscore
      @bdunderscore 3 роки тому +10

      Note that the controller in question might not have been able to legally clear the aircraft in question immediately to lower altitudes without coordinating with the lower sector controller.

  • @st8ks967
    @st8ks967 3 роки тому +4

    AAL571Q? That’s a really weird callsign for a US carrier

    • @jetpilot3714
      @jetpilot3714 3 роки тому

      Looks like that’s the radio call sign they were given vs the flight number. The FAA will do this when there are similar flight numbers to avoid confusion. They still use the same flight number for the leg but have a unique radio id. It’s fairly common.

    • @st8ks967
      @st8ks967 3 роки тому

      @@jetpilot3714 yes bud US carriers rarely have a letter identifier at the end. Idk

    • @gorgly123
      @gorgly123 3 роки тому

      I checked Flightaware and there was only 1 flight with this callsign. Normally it seems to be operated as AAL1571 from Dallas to Sacramento. Strange indeed.

    • @Maxdubi
      @Maxdubi 3 роки тому

      @@gorgly123 eyyy, Sacramento was mentioned. Weird to see for me😃

  • @elwizo
    @elwizo 3 роки тому +3

    how long is this video?

  • @markkalitta6125
    @markkalitta6125 3 роки тому

    Gooday

  • @Peter-55
    @Peter-55 3 роки тому +1

    I have to ask why the pilot didn't declare an emergency properly, i.e. MAYDAY or PAN PAN? This is the correct way and gets the attention of everybody on a frequency very quickly.

    • @ericpolowski4848
      @ericpolowski4848 3 роки тому +1

      He did declare emergency

    • @Peter-55
      @Peter-55 3 роки тому

      @@ericpolowski4848 The international rules of the air way of declaring an emergency is to say “Mayday, Mayday, Mayday” or “Pan Pan, Pan Pan, Pan Pan” - NOT saying “I am declaring an emergency”.

  • @passerby184
    @passerby184 3 роки тому +9

    I know it's a bizjet but pressurized Cessna just sounds weird

    • @jtharmon12
      @jtharmon12 3 роки тому +2

      LOL. I get ya. They made lots though: P210, 340, 414, 421, 425, 435, 441, and all those 500-1000 series jets.

    • @wolfgagger
      @wolfgagger 3 роки тому +5

      You must not know shit about Cessna and it's history then

    • @allgrainbrewer10
      @allgrainbrewer10 3 роки тому +1

      New to aviation? You probably think Bombardier only makes jet skis!

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna 3 роки тому +3

      When I head “Cessna” I thing of light GA aircraft too. It’s nothing to get rude over.

    • @wolfgagger
      @wolfgagger 3 роки тому +1

      @@EdOeuna I guess you don't know shit about Cessna either, You'd shit yourself if I told you Cessna made one of the best Light ground attackers of the Vietnam War!

  • @RaspySquares
    @RaspySquares 3 роки тому +1

    BOOM

  • @Nicolas_Rangel
    @Nicolas_Rangel 3 роки тому +1

    Small aircraft = scary flight (for me)

  • @LeifNelandDk
    @LeifNelandDk 3 роки тому +1

    How come pilots not using mayday or pan pan pan?

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna 3 роки тому +3

      For some reason America is the only place pretty much in the entire world with its own brand of ATC.

    • @RunwayHeading
      @RunwayHeading 3 роки тому +2

      Pan or mayday signal an urgent response needed from ATC. In this case, the pilot seemed to be calm and have the situation under control. So all he needed to do was advise atc of the emergency and begin descent. He did not require any additional services except vectors back to the airport. So he possibly thought mayday or pan was unnecessary.

    • @LeifNelandDk
      @LeifNelandDk 3 роки тому +2

      @@RunwayHeading advice of emergency = pan pan pan.

    • @JanPopieluch
      @JanPopieluch 3 роки тому +1

      @@LeifNelandDk there is no such thing as "pan pan pan". The emergency call is "pan-pan", repeated 3 times.

    • @AndrejaKostic
      @AndrejaKostic 3 роки тому +1

      @@JanPopieluch Well, if we're going to be nitpicky, it isn't. "Pan pan" is not emergency, it's the urgency signal. Emergency signal is "mayday".

  • @Lolascryforhelp
    @Lolascryforhelp 3 роки тому +3

    Hi

  • @istvananzures5153
    @istvananzures5153 3 роки тому +2

    hi

  • @crazu333
    @crazu333 3 роки тому +2

    Hi

  • @hidegrp
    @hidegrp 3 роки тому +1

    hi