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Congrats Austin, what a wonderful find. I was hoping you would have black-lighted that Les Paul, I've never seen a Darkback under a UV light. Also, very cool that YOU were the expert to verify the authenticity of this example, not to mention the discovery of the different batches. 👍
Congratulations. I've been seeing this new thing that I'm pretty certain is a scam. You click on the sight and have a potential of getting a new Gibson at a ridiculously low price under $100. I didn't bite on that. Good job with the Chad Kroger song. I can't believe you didn't realize that song was from the movie.
If you do, I'll offer you $3 to take it off your hands which I'll guarantee you I won't be outbid on. Actually, now that I think of it, Chad might be willing to bid a fiver himself, so if that happens I might be willing to go a little higher. ;) Edit: fix typo
The Columbia Pictures Editions were for the Producers, Sam Remy, Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst. How do I know this? Because her guitar is sitting in my house as I write this. It was given to her to commemorate the 1st Spiderman film and Kirsten is a dear friend of mine for many years and neighbor. Her's is #3.
What a cool story! That's awesome. Hope it plays as cool as it looks. Curiously, wondering what kind of neighbor Jesse is, seems like a dude that would be fascinating to talk to.
When I toured the Custom Shop way back when, Philip Horton was my rep and tour guide, there was all sorts of those Spiderman guitars hanging up on the wall being finished.
I totally get where the seller was coming from. In Collectibles, especially comic-based, "mint in package" (for action figures mint on card or MOC) is an important phrase. Even comics that came in sealed packages, MIP distinguishes it as pristine.
I'm not defending his choices given this guitar, just explaining there might be a psychology behind it so perhaps other folks can get some insight in case it ever comes up for them. @@banditkeithkingofduelmonsters
I was a Fender dealer for many years. When the 25th Anniversary Stratocaster came outI ordered one for sale and left it in the original carton unopened until a customer came in and was absolutely going to buy that guitar. It had been in inventory for a few months and I opened the instrument and was absolutely shocked that the 25th Anniversary Silver had cracks all over it. Needless to say, it did not sell that day. I returned the guitar to fender and they refinished it but the color wasn't quite the same, being more of a pearl white rather than the original silver. This was before the relic craze began, so I couldn't sell it for a bunch more as a roadwork instrument.🙁
I don't get the relic craze. Why would anyone want a damaged looking finish , my lp's stratocaster etc are all spotless. No buckle scratches . And no one touches them but me & my amazing luthier Tom Macblane.
@@rickrevoir1683I agrée 100%. I hate relic guitars. The only reason a guitar should look like that AND fetch a premium is that it was a tour guitar belonging to one of the greats. Beat up strat Jimi Hendrix played on tour? Billy Corgan’s Siamese Dream tour guitar? Jimmy Page’s Les Paul? I will give you ALL my money. A relic from the Fender Custom Shop? I would offer you a hundo but then again maybe you can just keep it!😂
4:26 Just to clarify, this was the 2002 Spider-Man movie (first of the trilogy) so it could be some people's fave (definitely my fave Spider-Man movie ever... even more than the sequel). Either way, it's not the "bully Maguire" (Spider-Man III, 2007) movie.
I noticed that the image is from the 1st movie, and a promo item for the 3rd one would have said "Spider-man 3" on it. Also as you alluded to, this was made in 2001.
@@benfinesilver2250 Hahaha i didn't thought of that but you're right someone who have an original of that doesn't even list it properly and is ready to murder the price of such a rare guitare is probably a thief, or it's been inherited but it's a bit too new for that so yeah you're probably right. For reference this guitare isn't sold less than 10k anywhere.
@@leechild4655 dude I have used Duncan Customs since 99 and right next to that is a 498T (also 14k) & swapped my 500T (15.4k with 3 double thick ceramic magnets) for a Fluence Modern. When the 500T based voice on that isn't enough, there's the EMG81 voice that has a 10db boost built in. It isn't that hot. The latter is as hot as hot gets. But a de-wound 498T or Custom is an intriguing proposition nonetheless. Still has balls, but is relaxed a bit, in theory anyway. Can't say there's nothing like it, but can't think of anything off the top of my head.
All the problems came from storage - a giveaway being the way the box was mildly damaged. probably given to a crew member who took it for a relative who never used it or given to someone he passed and it was sold by whoever was clearing their stuff. The only way to recover decals like that is with careful heat treatment but its risky. i did once give a Gibson acoutic to my Niece. she claimed to have been learning on it. 2004/05. in 2020 i got messaged by her about how to tune the strings and a week later about replacing them. Somehow I figure she hadnt used it since 2004/05. at least not "properly" whereas my daughter was given a Squier Strat and a really aweful amp. she plays expertly after 2yrs of pretty regular practice. She didnt think her playing sounded good, even though she knew it was a bad amp. so I plugged the guitar into a far better amp and she stunned herself at how good she was. The thing is, My niece played various instruments and knows a fair amount about them. My daughter knows about keeping time from dancing, the guitar was her first actual instrument and she's killing it for a relatively short space of time. Though she'll freely admit, she finds restringing a bit fiddly she can do it and tune it. (she occasionally cuts off the string a little too short but thats all) Thing is my daughter was 13 when she got the guitar. My niece was 29 & had high grades in Saxophone, violin, piano and flute. You'd think having that experience and wanting to try a new instrument, she'd have at the very least learned how to tune one. Anyway, my daughter is now saving for a Gibson Les Paul as she likes the sustain it naturally has. And, the cheeky one pinched my Marshall Amp! The niece was after one of my Telecasters and Marshall Amps and couldnt understadn why she got a Hell No. Found out yesterday, Daughter's BBF's dad has the rare PRS with the dragon mosaic. Apparently its the most expensive thing he has on his insurance and he has a numbered, first edition Rolex!!!
Honestly a LOT about how this guy conducts business is suspect. In another video he buys a guitar for $15k and immediately lists it for sale and MOCKS his first offer of $20k. He basically laughs it off. Cringe at best.
A friend kept his guitars and equipment in an unheated garage for a considerable time and his strap buttons had a white powdery substance to them after the chrome had lefft, the frets also turned black, i guess you should keep them in your home if you can to prevent corrossion
I don't know why, but I really like this one. It sounds like a Les Paul should sound and it just looks cool with the dark back like that. The graphic even kinda works for it, which is something that I'd normally be put off by. Nice find, Trogly!
good question......probably was in a "cupboard"for "stuff like that" and when the "director" or whatever "left", his stuff was sold off....the way all things go.....
Awesome score after a significant risk Trogly. Further proof that knowing your stuff can pay huge dividends. 👍🏻 Clearly you will never sell it, but the thing that struck me is this guitar was in a case, sealed in a box for 22 years until you liberated its mojo to the world. It’s quite possible it was never in tune until you tuned it up, albeit with new strings. Not an example I would want necessarily because I want to play my guitars but an awesome find nonetheless. That bridge pick up is a monster and overall I thought this Les Paul sounded really good. Thanks for the vid Trogly.
The decal shrinkage is common with calenders vinyls that are a little cheaper. Cast vinyl doesn't shrink nearly as much. It can leas to the wrinkles forming like the Nascar guitar. Decals on wood isn't always easy to get them to stick.
the stuff that lost its gold is probably a copper alloy and the metals that remained golden were probably gold plated, gold tends to be extremely chemically stable, while copper brass and bronze can oxidize more easily.
It’s kind of a weird pairing. Would never think that spider man is related to Gibson, or guitars in any way. The consumer crossover wouldn’t even seem related to me, yet here it is 😂
Truly intrigued by the bridge pickup. We must get to the bottom of this mystery. Underwound 498T? Overwound 57? That'd be a LOT more wire. AND...WHY would it go on this? Cool custom pickup for a run of less than 30 guitars?
Probably a 57 Classic Plus as they're hotter. It's still slightly hotter than the average for them but much closer than a standard 57 Classic. They were often paired with a standard 57 in the neck.
@@StephenG1991 It's closer to a 498T than 57 or 57+. Over or underwinding by 2-3k isn't common. All old PAFs were within ~1k, despite the haphazard process of the time. Gibson reliably churned out T Tops at 7.5k in the 70s without issue. 490s, 498, 496 & 500T all are pretty reliablely close to spec. 498T and my SD Custom are 14k & different animals to a PAF. Only 1k jump from 498T to 500T. Trogster should contact the Custom Shop and ask them. Maybe they used up some prototypes on these, since most owners weren't looking to use them as players? Whomever got this originally, after all, never even opened it. Jinkies, gang - we got a mystery.
What intrigues me is the "intonatable" wrap around tail piece/bridge. If anyone (other than Trogly) happens to know whether the saddles actually adjust in some way that's not immediately obvious in the view from the top I would sure appreciate some enlightenment.
I love that you (I'm assuming) learned the Chad Kroeger of Nickelback "Hero" song for the video. The Megadeth "Sweating Bullets" riff sounded cool too. The spider on the headstock is a great touch on this fiddle
I have a Tommy Hilfiger custom Gibson SG made in the Nashville plant. It’s got more frets than normal and only 1 humbucker pickup With volume tone and and switch all on the bottom end. No idea what it’s worth but it plays well.
Hey @trog do you have info on how you cleaned up the fogging? My hardware is like that on my 339 and was wondering how i can get it polished up and how you do it! Thanks
My favorite Gibson guitar case logo was the Tone Feel Appearance Gibson Acoustics. Not sure how many years they used that logo but had a Blue Gibson EC-10 in the 90's withe that case logo.
I love that bridge pickup, but also what a find! I'd honestly put fresh and matching to correct spec strap buttons onto that and keep the originals in the case
@@Trog Watch repair channels do their own gold re-plating. It doesn't look like it needs loads of specialist kit. Definitely cheaper/easier to replace them. The original ones don't look too bad after a clean. Maybe would be cool to restore what it came fitted with, though.
@@rockinrob2004as a chemistry nerd, re-plating is a genuinely fun easy and fascinating process. 2nd favorite thing I ever did in lab class right after figuring out what chemicals gave Fireworks their colors
10:21 HAHA that a 10mm socket for a volume knob!?! How awesome would that be!!! And nice placement... Trog - if you are not an automotive person - a 10mm socket is the one size no one can ever find when they need it. Memes about that didn't start showing up till long after this guitar was produced. Love the show!
The print (decal as you called it) was very pourly applied, not centered at all and there’s a lot of dust or dirt underneath. I apply decals and prints on stickermaterials for over 32 years now, and this would never pass quality control. I am almost shure they used a photoprint on vinyl, because a real decal does nit shrink that much without ‘breaking’ And the damage on the edge of the neckpocket is not due to shrinking, but due to poorly cutting some overlapping material due to not centering the sticker.
The original seller probably kept it boxed because it's comic book related, comic collectors love their sealed editions, even if the seller looked sketchy not showing an actual picture of the instrument he probably didn't know how to sell a guitar but had comics experience.
It's almost like they put Angus Young pickups in there, interesting. Forget the Spidey sticker, it's a pretty awesome sounding high octane Lester. I wouldn't mind having that as an axe to record with.
It always kills me how Nitrocellulose finishes can just wreck guitars when left in their cases without any air circulation for a decade or two. All the more reason to actually play the instruments that we invest our love and money into.
So, reverb just like eBay hasade it harder for sellers to scam So the buyer pays through reverb reverb that holds the money does not give it to the seller right away even after the item has already been shipped and arrived at the buyer's location reverb will still hold the money and wait 5 to 10 days and waiting for a response of some kind like oh this didn't come as shown or the description was wrong or whatever they want to refund it eBay and reverb and all these other places are resorting to that method where they don't pay the cellar right away
My father in laws 75 Les Paul has very similar wear/corrosion. It was left in its case in not so great/moist conditions at one point. This is definitely the same situation, Austin.
That is such an amazing backstory and obviously worth that gamble. It certainly paid off. I can imagine the smile when opening the case. Gems can still turn up. Keep the hunt on Trogly.
This is so cool! I gotta ask though, does the wrap tail bridge impact the tone vs. a regular Les Paul bridge? And if so, could that be why this guitar sounds raunchier than expected?
@@TrogGreat to know! I had been curious about the wrap tail bridges on Les Pauls. Would be cool to try one now that you mention the feel is different. Thanks as always Trogly! Appreciate all your great content and knowledge.
The box was Sony Pictures who released it but Columbia produced it. So somebody at Sony who didn't play got it as swag and gave it away or it was found in a closet years later and stolen by a Intern or somebody. Who likely worked for free.
This is so cool! Just recently I was at good will, and I picked up a Dr. Pepper mountain bike, not thinking anything about it, after further research all I could find on it was a for sale post for an identical bike, claiming their aunt won it in a contest and put it in her garage! Needless to say it was a well spent 45$
I'm so impressed with how you change the guitar's appearance with your cleaning methods, Trogly. How do you keep up with the maintenance of the rest of your collection? I would genuinely like to know if you have a moment to reply. Best wishes from the U.K.
The case is a very safe space for a guitar... but when the finish is still brand new and "off gassing" it might not be the safest place to leave it sealed for 20 years. A fully cured finish... yup, you're good. Be careful of guitars with celluoid - they off gas in a dangerous way!
💙🛎️🧨 I disagree with the previous and this is why: He said it in the excellent narration. The reason he did the sale was for us. 🙏Thank you for doing this. Here , the guy selling the video rights is taking a risk. It is amazing how many people out there who cannot communicate by any written form. But the other guy (the seller) had a life. He was selling this thing and this was the only way. You bought cool, made a dream of a life deal yet everybody was happy. ABD , you got my attention. A guy with a small IRA who paid too much fir a pig in the polk. My “New” instrument is a Cole Clark Angel 2 … and I am so psyched to be in a guitar wold, rather than piano or wind instruments, which has been my music. A great show. Subscribed.
Now I need to get Chad Kroeger to sign the back of the headstock!
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Congrats Austin, what a wonderful find.
I was hoping you would have black-lighted that Les Paul, I've never seen a Darkback under a UV light.
Also, very cool that YOU were the expert to verify the authenticity of this example, not to mention the discovery of the different batches. 👍
Congratulations. I've been seeing this new thing that I'm pretty certain is a scam. You click on the sight and have a potential of getting a new Gibson at a ridiculously low price under $100. I didn't bite on that. Good job with the Chad Kroger song. I can't believe you didn't realize that song was from the movie.
@@clarkbabin9799 you're "pretty certain" a new Gibson going for less than a Glarry is a scam? 🤔
How do I send you a picture of a guitar
If you do, I'll offer you $3 to take it off your hands which I'll guarantee you I won't be outbid on. Actually, now that I think of it, Chad might be willing to bid a fiver himself, so if that happens I might be willing to go a little higher. ;)
Edit: fix typo
The Columbia Pictures Editions were for the Producers, Sam Remy, Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst. How do I know this? Because her guitar is sitting in my house as I write this. It was given to her to commemorate the 1st Spiderman film and Kirsten is a dear friend of mine for many years and neighbor. Her's is #3.
Very cool, have you played it?
@@JRidgely I just played at 15 minutes ago
Wow!
What a cool story! That's awesome. Hope it plays as cool as it looks. Curiously, wondering what kind of neighbor Jesse is, seems like a dude that would be fascinating to talk to.
She gave it to you? Or just lets you hold on to it?
When I toured the Custom Shop way back when, Philip Horton was my rep and tour guide, there was all sorts of those Spiderman guitars hanging up on the wall being finished.
I totally get where the seller was coming from. In Collectibles, especially comic-based, "mint in package" (for action figures mint on card or MOC) is an important phrase. Even comics that came in sealed packages, MIP distinguishes it as pristine.
ok i get it.....but i won't spend a penny on this "stuff".....cheers.
Why wouldn't he take a picture of the box though? Is that something you can't do in comic collectibles?
Then why bother commenting at all?@@stratman9449
I'm not defending his choices given this guitar, just explaining there might be a psychology behind it so perhaps other folks can get some insight in case it ever comes up for them.
@@banditkeithkingofduelmonsters
Yeah, for a collector, mint-in-box is the ideal.
Wait, isn’t this basically just the Jeff Beck oxblood guitar?? His was a ‘54 with very similar specs to that. Smokin deal!
Yeah ... is it dark-back on the front?
Probably not similar except maybe the dimensions. '54 Gibson vs. '01 Gibson. There's gonna be some serious discrepancy.
I was a Fender dealer for many years. When the 25th Anniversary Stratocaster came outI ordered one for sale and left it in the original carton unopened until a customer came in and was absolutely going to buy that guitar. It had been in inventory for a few months and I opened the instrument and was absolutely shocked that the 25th Anniversary Silver had cracks all over it. Needless to say, it did not sell that day. I returned the guitar to fender and they refinished it but the color wasn't quite the same, being more of a pearl white rather than the original silver. This was before the relic craze began, so I couldn't sell it for a bunch more as a roadwork instrument.🙁
I don't get the relic craze. Why would anyone want a damaged looking finish , my lp's stratocaster etc are all spotless. No buckle scratches . And no one touches them but me & my amazing luthier Tom Macblane.
@@rickrevoir1683I agrée 100%. I hate relic guitars. The only reason a guitar should look like that AND fetch a premium is that it was a tour guitar belonging to one of the greats. Beat up strat Jimi Hendrix played on tour? Billy Corgan’s Siamese Dream tour guitar? Jimmy Page’s Les Paul? I will give you ALL my money. A relic from the Fender Custom Shop? I would offer you a hundo but then again maybe you can just keep it!😂
4:26 Just to clarify, this was the 2002 Spider-Man movie (first of the trilogy) so it could be some people's fave (definitely my fave Spider-Man movie ever... even more than the sequel). Either way, it's not the "bully Maguire" (Spider-Man III, 2007) movie.
Exactly bully version was the bad movie, smh😂 trog stick to your day job. Guitars movies, not your Forte
I noticed that the image is from the 1st movie, and a promo item for the 3rd one would have said "Spider-man 3" on it. Also as you alluded to, this was made in 2001.
yes, exactly, best Spider Man movie.
$3k, you stole that
Yes, it’s stolen
@@benfinesilver2250 Hahaha i didn't thought of that but you're right someone who have an original of that doesn't even list it properly and is ready to murder the price of such a rare guitare is probably a thief, or it's been inherited but it's a bit too new for that so yeah you're probably right. For reference this guitare isn't sold less than 10k anywhere.
For 3k… that’s not the guitar I’m buying 😂
Not bad. Sounds like it could handle a 'gig'! Seems like it plays well. I think I like it. 🎸👍🏼
Not a P90, Chambered or TB6 stop bar guitar. Trogly's favorite 😂
Rick Harrison will offer you $300 for that Guitar, and he'll be taking all the risks.
I've got a guitar that has ACTUAL spider webs on it. Cheap!
THEY SAY THAT A HERO COULD SAVE US.....IM NOT GONNA STAND HERE AND WAIIIIIIIIIIT
Now that's going to be in my head for the next 17 days... I'm OK with that.
I'LL HOLD ON TO THE WINGS OF THE EAGLE AND WATCH AS THEY ALL FLY AWAY!!!!!!!!!
You caught what he did too.
I missed the part where that is my problem
Me too.
Uncle Ben Bucker pickup sounds good
It does! It had...pop. Don't know how else to describe it. It popped out at you.
That bridge pickup is super hot. High output rascal. Let your bud Baker borrow it to record some metal with that crazy bridge pickup.
@@leechild4655 dude I have used Duncan Customs since 99 and right next to that is a 498T (also 14k) & swapped my 500T (15.4k with 3 double thick ceramic magnets) for a Fluence Modern. When the 500T based voice on that isn't enough, there's the EMG81 voice that has a 10db boost built in.
It isn't that hot. The latter is as hot as hot gets.
But a de-wound 498T or Custom is an intriguing proposition nonetheless. Still has balls, but is relaxed a bit, in theory anyway. Can't say there's nothing like it, but can't think of anything off the top of my head.
I seem to remember reading about 57++ somewhere ? I'm guessing that is what the bridge pup is ,? Congratulations on a smokin' deal !!
All the problems came from storage - a giveaway being the way the box was mildly damaged.
probably given to a crew member who took it for a relative who never used it or given to someone he passed and it was sold by whoever was clearing their stuff.
The only way to recover decals like that is with careful heat treatment but its risky.
i did once give a Gibson acoutic to my Niece. she claimed to have been learning on it. 2004/05.
in 2020 i got messaged by her about how to tune the strings and a week later about replacing them. Somehow I figure she hadnt used it since 2004/05.
at least not "properly"
whereas my daughter was given a Squier Strat and a really aweful amp. she plays expertly after 2yrs of pretty regular practice. She didnt think her playing sounded good, even though she knew it was a bad amp. so I plugged the guitar into a far better amp and she stunned herself at how good she was.
The thing is, My niece played various instruments and knows a fair amount about them. My daughter knows about keeping time from dancing, the guitar was her first actual instrument and she's killing it for a relatively short space of time. Though she'll freely admit, she finds restringing a bit fiddly she can do it and tune it. (she occasionally cuts off the string a little too short but thats all)
Thing is my daughter was 13 when she got the guitar. My niece was 29 & had high grades in Saxophone, violin, piano and flute. You'd think having that experience and wanting to try a new instrument, she'd have at the very least learned how to tune one.
Anyway, my daughter is now saving for a Gibson Les Paul as she likes the sustain it naturally has. And, the cheeky one pinched my Marshall Amp!
The niece was after one of my Telecasters and Marshall Amps and couldnt understadn why she got a Hell No.
Found out yesterday, Daughter's BBF's dad has the rare PRS with the dragon mosaic. Apparently its the most expensive thing he has on his insurance and he has a numbered, first edition Rolex!!!
I’d be pissed if my parents gave my cousin a Gibson acoustic and I got a squier😂they’d never hear the end of it..
The Les Parker😅
The Peter Paul
@@damienirvin95And Mary Jane
A-Vary-Hairy-Mis-Mary
The Peter,Paul and Mary Jane
I honestly thing you should feel bad about how you treated that guy. Having his listing taken down then massively low balling the guy isn't cool.
Honestly a LOT about how this guy conducts business is suspect. In another video he buys a guitar for $15k and immediately lists it for sale and MOCKS his first offer of $20k. He basically laughs it off. Cringe at best.
@@davidfaustino4476 and he can’t play, lol.
He scam checked him dude, like he has to get some money off of it.
To be fair, not posting photos of even the box is quite suspicious
That's what happens when one is suspicious.
A friend kept his guitars and equipment in an unheated garage for a considerable time and his strap buttons had a white powdery substance to them after the chrome had lefft, the frets also turned black, i guess you should keep them in your home if you can to prevent corrossion
Pull them out once in a while too! Cars and guitars want to be played with and fall apart from neglect!
I don't know why, but I really like this one. It sounds like a Les Paul should sound and it just looks cool with the dark back like that. The graphic even kinda works for it, which is something that I'd normally be put off by. Nice find, Trogly!
Is the serial number stamped in the headstock? Never seen an authentic Gibson with a painted SN
So, who walked out of the studio with it.?
good question......probably was in a "cupboard"for "stuff like that" and when the "director" or whatever "left", his stuff was sold off....the way all things go.....
Awesome score after a significant risk Trogly. Further proof that knowing your stuff can pay huge dividends. 👍🏻 Clearly you will never sell it, but the thing that struck me is this guitar was in a case, sealed in a box for 22 years until you liberated its mojo to the world. It’s quite possible it was never in tune until you tuned it up, albeit with new strings. Not an example I would want necessarily because I want to play my guitars but an awesome find nonetheless. That bridge pick up is a monster and overall I thought this Les Paul sounded really good. Thanks for the vid Trogly.
Probably a double win also, since these kind of stories tend to bring in a lot of viewers to trogly videos.
Speaking of monster bridge pick ups, I have Epiphone LP Cherryburst 60 reissue and the bridge pickup reads 13.8K Ohms!! Now that’s a hot one lol
The decal shrinkage is common with calenders vinyls that are a little cheaper. Cast vinyl doesn't shrink nearly as much. It can leas to the wrinkles forming like the Nascar guitar. Decals on wood isn't always easy to get them to stick.
Not a guitarist but love your channel, especially the off brand ones like this. Congrats!
the stuff that lost its gold is probably a copper alloy and the metals that remained golden were probably gold plated, gold tends to be extremely chemically stable, while copper brass and bronze can oxidize more easily.
It’s kind of a weird pairing. Would never think that spider man is related to Gibson, or guitars in any way. The consumer crossover wouldn’t even seem related to me, yet here it is 😂
Gibson will do most things if you pay them enough for it.
Truly intrigued by the bridge pickup. We must get to the bottom of this mystery.
Underwound 498T? Overwound 57? That'd be a LOT more wire.
AND...WHY would it go on this? Cool custom pickup for a run of less than 30 guitars?
Probably a 57 Classic Plus as they're hotter. It's still slightly hotter than the average for them but much closer than a standard 57 Classic.
They were often paired with a standard 57 in the neck.
@@StephenG1991 It's closer to a 498T than 57 or 57+.
Over or underwinding by 2-3k isn't common. All old PAFs were within ~1k, despite the haphazard process of the time.
Gibson reliably churned out T Tops at 7.5k in the 70s without issue. 490s, 498, 496 & 500T all are pretty reliablely close to spec.
498T and my SD Custom are 14k & different animals to a PAF.
Only 1k jump from 498T to 500T.
Trogster should contact the Custom Shop and ask them. Maybe they used up some prototypes on these, since most owners weren't looking to use them as players? Whomever got this originally, after all, never even opened it.
Jinkies, gang - we got a mystery.
It may also be a combination of hotter pickups and the bad solder work. Bad solder also increases resistance after all.
@@keineideefureinennamen4474 but it sounds so good!
What intrigues me is the "intonatable" wrap around tail piece/bridge. If anyone (other than Trogly) happens to know whether the saddles actually adjust in some way that's not immediately obvious in the view from the top I would sure appreciate some enlightenment.
Enjoyed the overdriven octaves part from Hero.
I love that you (I'm assuming) learned the Chad Kroeger of Nickelback "Hero" song for the video. The Megadeth "Sweating Bullets" riff sounded cool too. The spider on the headstock is a great touch on this fiddle
I have a Tommy Hilfiger custom Gibson SG made in the Nashville plant. It’s got more frets than normal and only 1 humbucker pickup With volume tone and and switch all on the bottom end. No idea what it’s worth but it plays well.
What do u use to oil fretboard and how did you get the frets clean
So how did you clean the tuning machines?
That bridge PUP sounds sick!
Most classy model of a spidy I've seen yet,absolutely beautiful..
Hey @trog do you have info on how you cleaned up the fogging? My hardware is like that on my 339 and was wondering how i can get it polished up and how you do it! Thanks
Elbow grease
Virtuoso polish, but do it by hand or you'll likely lose plating
trogly i gotta say those riffs on your playing demo were some of your best sounding ones
It’s a “Spider-Bucker”
Hey, when do you think your museum will be good to go?
private ambassador tours are already running. No ETA on public offering at this time
troglysguitarshow.com/museum-tour/
Just curious, do you use an amp and mic it up to demo guitars? If so what amp do you use?
I’m sorry but that paintwork would never be allowed to leave the Gibson factory with all those imperfections in it
I enjoy that Spidy Flick! Just rewatched it in fact. Great find Trogly!
I'm super happy he is keeping it for his personal collection. It's not even mine and it made me giddy!!!
What was that first song called?
I must have missed something in your assay, how do you know if the maple is flame maple under the decal?
He said "Too bad there's not a flame top because it would show on the exposed edges."
Something I don't see mentioned are your amp settings. Is the amp set the same for each guitar you review?
pretty much
My favorite Gibson guitar case logo was the Tone Feel Appearance Gibson Acoustics. Not sure how many years they used that logo but had a Blue Gibson EC-10 in the 90's withe that case logo.
Are you sure the fingerboard is Rosewood? Looks like unstained ebony which G&L used on the Broadcaster and others.
That thing friggin' rips!
I’m glad you picked this up as well. Thoroughly enjoyed today’s content! 😀
I love that bridge pickup, but also what a find! I'd honestly put fresh and matching to correct spec strap buttons onto that and keep the originals in the case
How did you clean the Gold HW? Thinking of replating the strap locks in gold?
much cheaper to just replace. I don't plan on modifying this one as I know the full story
@@Trog You sir are a lucky man! This thing is just a WOW piece! Love it! Congrats!
@@Trog Watch repair channels do their own gold re-plating. It doesn't look like it needs loads of specialist kit. Definitely cheaper/easier to replace them. The original ones don't look too bad after a clean. Maybe would be cool to restore what it came fitted with, though.
@@rockinrob2004as a chemistry nerd, re-plating is a genuinely fun easy and fascinating process. 2nd favorite thing I ever did in lab class right after figuring out what chemicals gave Fireworks their colors
10:21 HAHA that a 10mm socket for a volume knob!?! How awesome would that be!!! And nice placement... Trog - if you are not an automotive person - a 10mm socket is the one size no one can ever find when they need it. Memes about that didn't start showing up till long after this guitar was produced. Love the show!
If that bridge pickup was a mistake, Gibson should start making them. That thing sounds great with dirt.
This one is your JACKPOT man, I would always remember this one besides the Les Paul and the Snake Pit
The print (decal as you called it) was very pourly applied, not centered at all and there’s a lot of dust or dirt underneath. I apply decals and prints on stickermaterials for over 32 years now, and this would never pass quality control. I am almost shure they used a photoprint on vinyl, because a real decal does nit shrink that much without ‘breaking’ And the damage on the edge of the neckpocket is not due to shrinking, but due to poorly cutting some overlapping material due to not centering the sticker.
what is wrong where the body and fretboard meet at 5:15 crappy gibson at it's best
Nice find.
Strangest thing to me is that it sat unopened.
Surely even a collector would open to check?
A collector opened it instantly. Did you not see That?
I think this sat at the studios for 20+ years and was forgotten about. The seller was suspiciously close to headquarters.
@@Trog Maybe it grew spider legs and walked out of the storeroom to be released to the world 😄
The original seller probably kept it boxed because it's comic book related, comic collectors love their sealed editions, even if the seller looked sketchy not showing an actual picture of the instrument he probably didn't know how to sell a guitar but had comics experience.
My experience is some sellers arent able to take some good pictures for their items
Is it normal for a Gibson to leave the factory with the truss rod in that condition?
out of the custom shop - yes. Way more common than you'd like to think!
@Trog thank you for the reply! I just bought a 2021 Les Paul like new but was wondering about the truss rod.
This is a keeper. I’m not a Spider-Man fan but that guitar is good to go.
It's almost like they put Angus Young pickups in there, interesting. Forget the Spidey sticker, it's a pretty awesome sounding high octane Lester. I wouldn't mind having that as an axe to record with.
How do I get a t shirt?
I dig it. Also, Tobey was the best Spider Man.
The second this video started I said to myself 'if he does not play nickleback I'll be pissed' I'm glad this came to its logical conclusion
Were the humbuckets modified/ reproduced for the 1967 pickup? That’s when the original Spider-Man cartoon came out
I still want one of those spiderman mustangs..sooo cool..
Can definitely hear the wraptail on that one.
Growing up as a spiderman fan in the 2000s, It's fun seeing this video come up in my subscription
Growing up as a Spidey fan IN THE 1960’s it was cool to watch this, as I’m also a huge Les Paul guitar fan!
Fun episode! I’m assuming you may be in Atlanta from the flyover footage while you were playing!
It always kills me how Nitrocellulose finishes can just wreck guitars when left in their cases without any air circulation for a decade or two. All the more reason to actually play the instruments that we invest our love and money into.
And yet purists insist nitro is better than poly, I had a nitro guitar and was always worried about sweating on it and ruining the finish.
To be a student at the best Luther school you have to mix you own nitro cellulose so don't apply except to lens crafts - k
Fantastic story and guitar ! Thank you !
I just remembered, Jim Root also has a guitar he ordered from Gibson and never opened… I wonder what that guitar looks like.
So, reverb just like eBay hasade it harder for sellers to scam
So the buyer pays through reverb reverb that holds the money does not give it to the seller right away even after the item has already been shipped and arrived at the buyer's location reverb will still hold the money and wait 5 to 10 days and waiting for a response of some kind like oh this didn't come as shown or the description was wrong or whatever they want to refund it eBay and reverb and all these other places are resorting to that method where they don't pay the cellar right away
My father in laws 75 Les Paul has very similar wear/corrosion. It was left in its case in not so great/moist conditions at one point. This is definitely the same situation, Austin.
That is such an amazing backstory and obviously worth that gamble. It certainly paid off. I can imagine the smile when opening the case.
Gems can still turn up. Keep the hunt on Trogly.
For $3k with a wrap tail, damn I’d spend that for that!!!😳
So how much did you resell it for?
I kept it
This is so cool! I gotta ask though, does the wrap tail bridge impact the tone vs. a regular Les Paul bridge? And if so, could that be why this guitar sounds raunchier than expected?
No
It affects the feel, but wouldn't affect the tone that much
@@ChrisShortyAllen Good to know, thanks!
@@TrogGreat to know! I had been curious about the wrap tail bridges on Les Pauls. Would be cool to try one now that you mention the feel is different. Thanks as always Trogly! Appreciate all your great content and knowledge.
The box was Sony Pictures who released it but Columbia produced it. So somebody at Sony who didn't play got it as swag and gave it away or it was found in a closet years later and stolen by a Intern or somebody. Who likely worked for free.
A signature Spider-Man bridge pickup 😂
Awesome Love these kinds of guitars
This is so cool! Just recently I was at good will, and I picked up a Dr. Pepper mountain bike, not thinking anything about it, after further research all I could find on it was a for sale post for an identical bike, claiming their aunt won it in a contest and put it in her garage! Needless to say it was a well spent 45$
I appreciated you playing Hero for the demo
I was Surprised that after the Snake Bite Guitar rip off you took the chance. Well done Austin! Great Les Paul!
Great find and story Mr Trogly. I love videos like this. Cheers from NZ 😎🎸🤘
your playing has got so much better cool keep it
His tone too! I used to skip the distortion sections of his tone demos 😅
@@gonzoengineering4894 we can always learn cool
I think you mixed up your Spider-Man movies... 04:25
1. Spider-Man - 2002
2. Spider-Man 2 - 2004
3. Bully Maguire - 2007
You are the man! That's awesome!
Gibson uses the Beanie Baby business plan.
I am surprised that a guitar went through the post office or a shipping company and arrived in one piece.
I'm so impressed with how you change the guitar's appearance with your cleaning methods, Trogly. How do you keep up with the maintenance of the rest of your collection? I would genuinely like to know if you have a moment to reply. Best wishes from the U.K.
Clean em once and they are usually good for a long time!
Bridge pickup could be a 57 pro.
I had them in an SG, really hot pickup
Did he say dont keep guitars in their cases? Ive never heard that?
The case is a very safe space for a guitar... but when the finish is still brand new and "off gassing" it might not be the safest place to leave it sealed for 20 years. A fully cured finish... yup, you're good. Be careful of guitars with celluoid - they off gas in a dangerous way!
You have a great show!
That guitar sounds good 👍 Early 2000s I've been saying that
perfect song to play on the guitar! Thangs Trogly!
Killer deal on an early 2000's Custom Shop Les Paul!
Woah dude..where did you get that giant big ass fretboard cover for covering and cleaning up frets..cool..i need one..lol wow
StewMac probably sells those
💙🛎️🧨 I disagree with the previous and this is why: He said it in the excellent narration. The reason he did the sale was for us.
🙏Thank you for doing this. Here , the guy selling the video rights is taking a risk. It is amazing how many people out there who cannot communicate by any written form. But the other guy (the seller) had a life. He was selling this thing and this was the only way. You bought cool, made a dream of a life deal yet everybody was happy. ABD , you got my attention. A guy with a small IRA who paid too much fir a pig in the polk. My “New” instrument is a Cole Clark Angel 2 … and I am so psyched to be in a guitar wold, rather than piano or wind instruments, which has been my music. A great show. Subscribed.
So what do these usually go for then? Would help to know how good of a deal he got.
Look them up
Gibson should put the spider decal on the widow series…that would’ve kicked it up a notch!!
Horrifying guitar but kind of a funny way of acquiring it
If it was a sealed box, wouldn't the guitar box be in a bigger box and sealed with the brown paper tape?