Abandoned 1968 Plymouth Satellite | The Ratty Satty | Motorhome 440 Engine Teardown & Rebuild Begins
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- ABANDONED 1968 Plymouth Satellite taken from the scrap pile & made into a daily driver race car just in time for the Muscle Cars at the Strip (MATS) Show in Las Vegas, NV.
In this episode I do a complete teardown of the 1973 Motorhome 440 that is currently in the car. Is it rebuildable?
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Just for shits and giggles, you should watch one of Nicks 440 builds, he tells you what clearences you should have, cam options and everything, then he mounts it to the dyno and shows the power it actually makes, I believe he got damn near 500 hp from his built 440, but that was bored 30 over, check him out.
My man T Bone working the drill, too cool. I follow Nicks Garage, he`s a Mopar nut and a 440 genius, he dyno tested a 440 with stock manifolds and then with headers, I believe it was 5 to 7 hp more with headers vs stock ex manifolds, he hates headers because of clearence issues of course, headers dont do what most people thing, they don`t add 25 hp like advertized, my 383 had headers and that starter would get so hot, let alone changing plugs and keeping the wires off em, they were nothing but a pain in the you know what. Hey nice clean cillinder bores, that still have the hash marks, you did well this time, it`s all about the heads and cam in these stock Mopars, and who doesn`t love the sound of a cammed 440. I don`t know what you are going with, but i`m sure you know Edelbrock has kits were they did all the homework on, you just bolt it on pretty much, cam, heads, intake and your done, can`t wait to see the build, love T Bone working that drill.
Good. Nice you have a good block. I would caution you against using the low compression with performance cam. You could end up with low cylinder pressure and disappointing results.
Yes. Junkyard digs put a cam in an otherwise original 77 Olds Cutlass 442 with a 350 Olds and Quadrajet and it then had a nice lumpy idle. But, he said, "I think we actually made it slower than it was before."
Haha that's no good!
New pistons are on order!
Won’t that tunnel ram be too narrow for the 440? I’m thinking the 383 is narrower? Correct me if I’m wrong.
Yep! I have a tall deck one for the 440
What happened to the Charger 68? I'm excited about her videos😜
Just a tip, when you're removing the cylinder heads, I always leave one head bolt slightly threaded in, that way the head can't accidentally fall off while you're using the persuader. Big hunks of falling cast iron tend to crush feet
Good advice! Thanks for watching!
Glad to see T Bone helping out so much! You'll never regret a single second he's there with you. My boys are all grown now and have gone their separate ways. I'd give anything to have them in the garage with me again. Keep up the great work!!
Whoo ho You have a forged crankshaft. A couple option's get 8 matched set of 1968-69-70 440 piston's, Get a Mopar performance purpleshaft 284 484, use a performance distributor set timing at 34 degree's total depending on altitude , U already have the TM-7 edelbrock intake and a Holley 750, 2 inch header's with bolt on 14" collector and 4:10 with slick's you should run mid/ high 12.. I forgot transmission need a Reverse manual valvebody and 3,000-3,500 stahl. I watched the whole video you say >> u are going to put on the tunnel ram?? it's a Low deck intake without buying spacer's it will be 2 inches short
Pistons were 0.165 in the hole! Needless to say, new ones are on order!
Or if you are a budget build u can look for used stock 1968 69 70 piston's they usually can be had for $100 a set… Yes, I was going what factory spec said .125 doesn't acount for late cast block's deck height @@rustbucketrestos6511
Flat top should be 10:1 compression. Check deck height. Piston should come within .030 of deck. If pistons don’t come up to deck compression drops a lot.
Stock 1973 440 had .125 below deck just like 1966-67 440 had with closed chamber head's. But his motor does have a new timing chain someone was in the engine at one time
I agree!
0.165 in the hole! New pistons are on order!
Ya the old motor home 440s were about a true 7.5 to 8.1 comp with open chamber and 165 down in the hole🤦🏻♂️ get a piston with some decent deck height 2355F forged speed pros are cheap 400 bucks comp height 2.061 with stock deck height be about 20 tho below deck with a closed chamber 75cc or 84 cc head will make good comp also work with stock pressed pin rod size.
.165 in the hole leaves you with stock gasket about a 8.2:1 Compression Ratio. I know, I have the close to the same distance with .163. New pistons will make a tremendous increase in output. Keep up the content, love watching T-Bone at work. Making memories! @@rustbucketrestos6511
The tunnel ram from the 383 won't work on the 440.
I got a tall deck tunnel ram too! 😎
@@rustbucketrestos6511 How about a six pack? Actually for power the intake on it is best.
Do yourself a favor and buy a cheap engine leveler from HF, they are also useful for hanging doors too. At least my C3 Corvette thought so lol. Good luck going forward on this build. It's been a rough one for sure.
Good tip!
Sure does look like Tillman’s old garage🤔
Here for the great builds and good laughs lol 😁
Mr gasket makes a 20 thousand steel head gasket use some copper spray on the gasket and that will help you bring up your cylinder pressure
Good advice! Thanks!
I forgot to mention that if you use aluminum heads you can't use the metal gasket, and I would bet you are going to use aluminum heads
its me again the lonely mopar fellow from ny, make sure you try and match that torqer intake, camshaft and torge convertor, gears, preferably 3.91,4.10 or a 4.56 . match your tire size also. those pistons are aproximately 0.150" from the deck about 7.81 comp. not good but it will do. one more word of advice is try to order a "cometic mls head gaskets. it looks like they were permatorqe head gaskets with a crushed thickness of about 0.034". check and see if it has the heavier connecting rods. i would not recommend nitrous oxide. if you do use it be carefull the ringlands like to break. i would run a 800 or a 950 holley brawler. those pistons are also heavy the motorhome pistons have a thicker top to them to keep from detonating. those heads should be number #452 castings. they should in reality be checked for ccs. they run anywere from 86-90+ccs. again for detonation reasons. try to run a good type of holley electric feul pump. believe me you dont need 2 four barrel carbs to run in the 11 second 1/4 mile. i dont remember if i told you this one but i had a school freind who believe it or not had a low mileage 413 put in a 1964 dodge dart staion wagon. it had pistons that were 0.186" from the deck and 906 heads from a 383 ccd to 82 ccs m1 mopar single plane intake 509 mopar performance cam cloyes single bolt double row timing chain,windage tray,rocker ars were standard stamped steel and shimmed side to side rocker end play,9 quart milodon pan melling oil pump not high volume, a stock pump with the "black pump spring installed , a holley blue electric racing pump,electric fan, big 3 core aluminum radiator and 950 ultra holley double pumper carb he had about 600.00 into the engine, had 175 shot of nitrous oxide, and last but not least 727,with 5500 stall convertor,deep pan trans brake and manual valvebody. i think this little monster weighed about 2900 or so lbs when finished. it ran 6000 rpm max wich is max for those stock 413,440s 11.27 at 118 mph. that little s.o.b. ran and ran it did street racing some fat guy who had a 1957 chevy belair blue with flames on side a noisier than hell 496 with i think my freind said the guy had aprox 23000 dollars in the engine. my freind ran this jerk took him out of the hole had him i fogot how many feet,mind you my freind was street racing it was about 15 years ago. the guy he ran was imbaressed and of course asked him what the hell you got under that hood, my freind replied and said just a low mileage 413 from a motorhome. that guy still has that car and i bet he still all these years wont admit he got his fat ass beat by a motorhome engine. thought i tell about that story. i wasnt at that carazy race but my freind had to tell me the next day. the guy with that 496 was a big mouth and waswas somewhat shut down but sometimes you cant shut up a jerk whith those brand x engines. thats the truth. you cant shut up a older idiot who has a ego problem. chrysler kicked ass on the streets due to the small block type ports,father steeve brule on engine masters joked about it. look for steve duchics mopar stuff he is one hell of a mopar guy him and steve brule on the engine masters shows.good luck with that wolf in sheeps clothingit looks nice and clean and ill bet its one of those 50000 mile time capsules remember match those parts. ill be looking on youre assembly.take care. my saying and an old on mopar or no car.
Excellent advice! Thank you for watching!
The OEM pistons are way too low in the bore,that´s how Mama Mopar lowered the compression :-(
0.165 in the hole...
ideal is zero deck@@rustbucketrestos6511
I thought it was going to have dished pistons, too. And the gaskets on it would be steel if they were factory, not composite.
I thought he timing chain looked like it had been replaced, too. When you say it was from a motor home, was it from a Class A (boxy front end) or Class B (Van front clip)?
I have no idea where it came from... But it definitely appears to have been gone through!
your not going to get 500 horse using those low compression pistons, you can go with hypereutectic pistons in it.0 deck the block and balance the rotating assembly and a good set of heads, you will be alot happier when stepping on the loud pedal lol
I like your style!
That transmission is not a motor home transmission! I agree with Gary, you are going to be disappointed with that engine if you leave those low compression pistons in there
New pistons are on order :)
the felpro head gaskets robed the compression ratio. factory used steel head gaskets half the thickness or less
When the compression ratio is in the 7s... ugh....
I’ve some of the piston comments and I agree, change the pistons to avoid pulling the motor this summer
That's the plan!
You must put new Mahle power pack pistions in it. Raise CR to 10.5 to 1 minimum.
I’d be happy to provide my address if you’d like to donate a set 😎🤙
Love that forged crank! Excellent engine to work with 💪🏻
Forged crank and quite possibly 6 pack rods as well. I believe he said it was a ‘73. Comin into the energy crunch ma mopar started pullin any thing off the shelf to build with. Lotta early 70s motor homes have gorged cranks and six pack rods. 😬😬
It sure is!
Lucky, Lucky. Happy for the great result!
Thank the lord!
If you can i would put a set of 10 to 1s in it it is torn down this far those stock pistons are not going to do anything for you
That's the plan!
Get the 440 source 512 ci stroker, kit you won’t be sorry
I'm accepting donations!
Paint the motor orange after rebuild and before install.
100% agree!
Great episode but don’t think you can use the tunnel ram as it’s for a B block not the RB block, can’t wait to see it running again
Agreed.. Heads yes. Intake nope
I have a new tall deck tunnel ram on the shelf!
Yep!
I have nothing to add on this installment except... the background music on this episode was the shiznit. I could throw that on and listen to it all day. Congrats on the engine being usable!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The 383 tunnel ram will not work on the RB 440
I have a tall deck one too 😎🤘
WOW! ... Another episode WithOut the grinder! 😄😄 Block looks good! Looking forward to seein' what you do with it!
Haha yes! That will change in the next episode… thank god. I’m having spark withdrawals
If the intake cam off a 383 ,400 it wont fit the 440.
I have a tall deck intake on the shelf too! 😎🤘
Always a header-room-issue especially on these bad-ass boats! Glad you have a good block!
Happy 2024 to you, t-bone & the fam!
Thanks for watching!
Enjoying the updates from New Zealand
I’d take that car in a heartbeat. RR are out of my price range and a Satellite looks cool and is way more affordable.
Great tear down results...a windage tray couldn't hurt your build and I would break the motor in with the 4 barrel intake and carb....looking forward to seeing more...good content thanks.
7 Qt Milodon with a windage tray is on the shelf!
Make sure to replace cam bearings. 😢
Yes!
I’m t bone 🎉🎉
I always see you well, even from far away in Korea.
God bless you~
what was the casing numbers on the heads? Forged or cast crank?
like i said , love this chanel !
Thanks for watching!
I agree this should have been your first choice because 90% of the “ issues” you described were merely bolt in stuff. The biggest being the low compression. Set of pistons will take care of that.
New pistons are on order!
How far down the hole were the pistons ? 70-100 tho ?@@rustbucketrestos6511
New pistons, big cam and some good heads. You’ll have 500 easy hp’z. They still had the HD rods and good crank till 78 I think in Motor Homes.
That's the plan!
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If you are changing out the rod bearings anyway you are just a couple steps away from replacing the pistons to increase the compression ratio, but to be honest I really want to see how this turns out with the stock motor home setup. I am not as optimistic as you are but I would love to see this thing tearing down the strip and be proven wrong. I have a 1996 E-350 Motor home with the Ford 460, that thing was built for torque plain and simple and not a lot of get up and go.
New pistons will come with the 541 stroker kit next year 😉
Kinda noticed that bit of sag when you put it on that stand . Guess you'll have to get one of those motor stands like the guys on C&C heavy equipment have . Just shitin that thing probably cost a fortune.. Love the work you do .....
It's rated at 1/2 ton, but this old big block is putting it to the test!
Low compression 440. Mopar Joe will be a good source of information about this build!
He is helping me spec out the upgrades! Great dude!
I really like. Will continue to watch
Just watched video, looks like yu are missing the oil slinger for the crank timing chain sprocket. Make sure you install one, keeps the oil away from crank seal and keeps oil on timing chain. People usually just throw them away. lol
Cant wait for next video, keep them coming
Good info! Thanks!
Your digital caliper that you checked the bore with should measure depth on the end so you can determine quench you don’t need feeler gauges
It's deeper than I was hoping... new pistons are on order!
👍🏻🇦🇺good to see the young Lad helping you may have to machine the deck 🤔also .
He loves it!
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Well I'm glad to see things are going better for you with this engine. Thanks for keeping us posted and for sharing this project with us.
Thanks for watching!
Check your fuel pump rod they are known to wear off. Measure it and compare to other rods.
I removed it altogether. Going with an Aeromotive electric fuel pump.
Another great video bud
Yeee
Oh yeah!
Great news buddy and love all the feed back on it can’t wait to see the up grades
Thanks for watching!
Happy New year
Nice 😊
Im from the old way of doing a seal job on any block. Ford, Gm, or Mopar. The rings shouldnt be left in there. A newer style of rings will net you so much more. Overall, its not worth any hp or torque gains. But the ablility to capture the compression in the chamber will get a more thorough burn in the cylinder. Fuel economy equates to proper burn. Any 440, is a gas pig anyway. The low compression big blocks made in the 70's, with the emissions and mileage being pre decent power. So any improvement in consumption, will be a huge plus. Injection is the easy way to capitlize on better fuel mileage. Even a throttle body set up is a huge improvement.
I never can remember this. Which are the rings that are the most idiot proof and you can just throw on an engine like his without even a dingle ball job and get improved sealing?
Cause I'll definitely need those! :)
Great info, thanks!
The go to brand is Total Seal. Out of all of the aftermarket brands, those do seal very well. Theyre the go-to's most use.
Maybe somebody has a stock set of high compression pistons ???
New pistons are on order!