2024 RockShox SID and SID SL Ultimate Fork Quick Check, 29", 44mm Offset
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- 2024 RockShox SID fork lineup includes the 35mm and 32mm SL like in the past, but with 110mm travel option for the SL, upgraded Debonair+ air spring on the 35mm SID, and a new Race Day 2 damper that offers both the 2 position Open/ Lock of the past and a new, 3 position option that provides a Pedal mode. Check them out! #RockShox #SID #ultimate
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RockShox SID Ultimate Race Day 2, 29", 120 mm - bit.ly/46gaxfW
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⌚ Chapters
0:00 Intro
00:56 Unboxing
02:02 SID and SID SL differences, RD2
03:18 Race Day 2 vs FOX Fit4 damper
04:14 (sid Select-mini Pike)
04:15 44mm offset, 29er only
05:08 Lowers design, differences
05:53 Thru axle, Torque Cap Adaptors
06:22 Air Spring, Debonair+, SAG
07:13 Feature or FIX?
07:52 Weight of new SID
08:48 Changes summary
09:52 Conclusions, compatibility
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Best review so far!
Love the outtakes
Great review. Always look forward to an in depth review that you do. Best presenter on Y/T. Cheers
Thank you Don🤜
Great comparison. I’m running SID SL Ultimate on my XC. That’s the one with the Race Day damper. Love it. It’s light and works well.
Yeah no problems with those or the Select that we've been using.
How is it in long term?
Is it reliable?
Thank sram for doing forks in another great color!
It is actually a nice color😊
I’m running 2.35 Maxxis tires with plenty of clearance on the SC gen 2.0
Thanks for another great review!!! I always wished that fox would use the sag gradient markers like rockshoks do,sad to see rockshoks moving away from this.They both look like nice forks though.Cheers!!!!
Yeah right? Cost savings maybe? Who knows. Thanks Glenn
i just installed one of the 110mm SID SLs on my mtb no. 4, i like the light weight and firm yet smooth dampering. i have 4 hardtail mtbs, one with Fox Factory 21 and one with DT Swiss F232 one, my personal preference is DT Swiss F232 one as it's got soft dampering, moderate firmness plus light weight.
Thanks for sharing!
Great review ! Interestingly my 2024 SID Ultimate 3P Remote included a hard screw-on mudguard, not a plastic one. No sag scale though. I think I have a crush on that Blue Crush paintjob. 💙
😆 I like that color also. Maybe they change the mudguard now? I like the hard one better BTW
Been exclusively on sids since 2001. I love every sid edition
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Vídeo objetivo e bastante didático, e o melhor: legendas em portuguese.🎉
👍 Hola. Siempre inspirando . Eres de verda un tio q da ilusion a todo. Comentario de un profesional. Me inspiraste mucho. 🏆.
¡Gracias! Y encantado de ayudar🤘
My new Trek Supercaliber gen 2 came with the new Sid sl. Works great. Better than the new Fox sc 34 and very easy setup. Mine has remote lockout which greatly increases the functionality when doing any smooth climbing. Great video. Thanks
Thanks for the info! And enjoy that rocket of a race bike🤘
How does it work better?
@@nimbuscycles2354 all I had to do was set the sag , take it to a rough trail and adjust the rebound for my style of trail riding. Thereafter, I check the shock pressure about every 3 rides. That’s it. Easy peasy. I am getting the full 110 mm of travel on big drops. Couldn’t be happier.
@@elbiemetoo Sounds simple. Did you have trouble with a new fox sc 34? What were the problems?
@@nimbuscycles2354 no problems. But after a lot of fussing around with the sag, rebound, and air volume spacers , I just couldn’t get it in that spot where I could use the full travel (120mm) without it being too mushy for anything except rough terrain. It would have been fine until I got this rock shock ultimate which fit that sweet spot with minimal fuss. This is all personal preference I’m sure.
Quite nice those forks! I am more on the trail side and the Pike Ultimate has been my trail fork of choice. On the Enduro bike, I enjoy my Manitou Mezzer!😊
Got it😊is that the new pike ultimate/ buttercups?
@LoveMTB go it just before the buttercups were introduced 🤔 ! Every time I think about it, I wonder ...
@@fpainchaud350 still a good fork but the new generation of FOX seem to have the edge. Or my 2020 B1 Pike😎
Beautiful fork. Love the color. Grail fork for me.
It looks awesome indeed
At the World Cup, competitors ride on Sid SL, Sid 35mm, RockShox Flight Attendant. Blow my mind 😁
Yupl lots of Flight Attendant front and rear suspension
After the bushing issues on the last model I switched to Fox step cast
Not all of them had issues we've been using the Select for 2 years now, zero issues. But te 34SC is a solid choice for sure!
I hope this new fork solves the bushing play problem of the the previous generation 120mm Sid 35. Nearly every review of a bike with a Sid had to have the fork serviced because of bushing play. There were bikes that I might have bought, like the Transition Spur, but I hesitated because the bike came with a Sid. By the way, the Spur now comes with a Fox 34.
How would we know?🙄
I wonder what fox will bring to the table once they release a new 34 stepcast, I ride the 2022 version and its blown me away, much better then the 2021 pike ultimate I replaced tbh. The new SID 35 forks seem pretty much the same as before but they fixed the bushing problem which is great, I also like the look of the wider stanchions but I don't know if its just me but I hate the look of the new crown machining, maybe it looks better in real life
Crown doesn't look that bad but it's accetuated by the blue color which is awesome but I would buy the black 🙂 Fox eems to be working on a reverse crown fork for XC from the few spy shots I've seen this summer. I don't know wbout that, I usually don't like reverse crown forks. At all.
@@LoveMTB OMG I hope its not true! Reverse crown forks as so fugly lol
Time will tell...@@MTBfixHQ
Thanks for sharing this in-depth look. Have you seen the 2024 Sid Select yet? I'm trying to set up a bikepacking rig with a 120mm fork. I want a fork that will last 1000's of km without servicing, and is durable. Any thoughts on Ultimate vs Select?
Not yet unfortunately! But we've bbeen really happy with the previous gen Select, and if I was to go for the lighter RS it would be this new Ultimate / RaceDay2 damper and avoid the previous gen Ultimate.
Oh nice, Im close to the Saugua, got a link to buy?
founs it, thx
hi! great work and infos! a doubt in sid 35mm comparing older version... is use same lower or is a different dimensions? I know the bushing spacing are differente, but the lower legs are the same?
They're not the same, more sculpted etc. Don't know if they differe internally in any way but they are definitely not the old lowers.
@@LoveMTB The spacer between The stanchions leg is the same of older? Please.. If you do, do you can measure these? Thanks
@@fabianotajiri8811 it’s the same
I just replaced the lowers on my Sid because of bushing play. 😖 I hope they last.
Man oh man....😖
I accidentally ordered the from with remote. But I don’t want the remote, can you remove the remote assembly on the fork? And I want that knob you have.
Unfortunately you have to replace the damper with thw 2P/ 3P no remote
I'd love to build a light weight modern geo steel or Ti hardtail with the SID ultimate 120mm fork. My bank balance won't let me though....
THAT would be sweet!
i honestly Love the Color of the Blue Sids.
but, those bushing issues discourages me from buying the New Sids
They should be fixed! Ok sorry more bushing overlap was presented as a feature😊
So i have with good working 2021 120mm with no play. I have some damper leaks but it's manageable. I love my 35. Is the new one better in your opinion ?
We have the old one, Select model and worked ok, bushings too tight, ok overall. New one has improved on the overlap should not have issues with bushings play, same design of the damper so same leaks can occur...
@@LoveMTB The damper has been updated to "charger race day V2" so i think they solved the leak issues, i hope so anyway :S
Hello, I asked myself the same question for my future Supercaliber Gen 2 which will be equipped with the SID SL. I wrote to Sram support and they wrote me this:
"The SID SL Ultimate (D1) has a maximum tire width of 60 mm, which corresponds to about a 2.3" tire. It will be best to mount the new tires on your Kovee wheels, then measure the setup once installed in the fork to make sure the necessary clearance is available.
Unfortunately, I have no way of confirming clearance.
I apologize for not being able to give you an accurate answer. Let me know if you have any Further questions SRAM Rider" support
Thankk you for sharing!
currently debating going with the older Sid sl for cost saving and wondering if it will be a noticeable difference compared to the newer sl?
I would not go for that one...search for issues with bushings on theose forks, it's all over the forums.
@@LoveMTB Dang, even the newer 2023 SL ultimate?
How do you feel about the extra pedal setting vs the remote lockout open and firm?
We use the pedal damper setting in the Fox forks all the time so having it in RC is a welcome addition to
@@LoveMTB I’m so used to using a lock out but I can’t seem to find a good place with it. If I add more are it looses that small bump. If I use more tokens it becomes to harsh off the top maybe I’ll try one of these sid’s
@LoveMTB is that the gloss blue? Online photos show it to be much lighter in color. Have you done a comparison video yet to the Fox 34SC?
I have not, and the lighter blue was the previous generation fork🤓
@@LoveMTB that’s what I was starting to piece together. That’s a shame…really liked the old school SID blue.
@@samd6405 This looks better in my opinion more premium
@@LoveMTB maybe…still think the lighter blue is the ‘original’ SID color from the ‘90s. But that’s just me…would love to hear your opinion between the Fox/RS…maybe a future video?
@@samd6405 yeah can’t say I have any recollection of the 90s SID. Wasn’t even biking seriously back then. Due to the internal build of their damper I don’t think I’ll actually buy one of these new SIDs to use even though we do need an XC fork. But maybe I’ll get the chance to ride one. You folks will know if that happens
Oh wow a Canadian bike UA-camr. Do you have a Facebook group or something for your subscribers in Toronto?
Unfortunately I don't, great idea! And welcome🤘
Great review…the different forks get me so confused…
There is a method to the madness just keep researching
Options, more options please🙂
Yeah me too!
Can you help me? I want to have a light bike, but the new Debon Air+ makes me wonder. Which version will be better for Supercaliber gen 2 (110 mm)?
I am 180cm/76kg and I run marathon and XC as an amateur.
Wow Rock shox😊❤😅😮
Do you find the Lock postion to be as rock-solid ass marketed? Mine SID 2024 3pos remote is far from being solid , even softer than Fox SC FIT4 lockout. I tested another brand new very same fork and it is still not fully locked. Very strange. C1 forks are much solid in Lock pos.
I think they are like that by design though…
@@LoveMTB last weekend I spoke to a SRAM mechanic at UCI XC World Cup . Both generations of Race Day dampers are supposed to be the same as far as the lockout firmness is concerned. So why there're so many SID 2024 forks with such a soft lockout? I'm currently in contact with SRAM service center technician trying to point the exact cause.
@@xoslic sounds like you know more about this than I do. What I do know is to stay away and I have Fox 34 SC on all my XC bikes
Brand new forks placed on the flagstones. I can't watch
You sensitive soul😎
I had two 120mm sid ultimate forks and never noticed any play, not even pushing bike against wall, but I currently have a 100mm SL wich do have play, but to be honest...100% unnoticeable when riding
Interesting, so your SL is the new 2024 right?
@@LoveMTB no,. I use the "old" 100mm SL(23 model) and the new 120mm (24), I can tell that at least the 120mm does fill little more rigid and linear in compression (wich I belive was the intended desing adjustment)
Yes that's also my understanding thanks for sharing your experience!@@gpa1978
Can you get your viewers a deal through that shop?
. I always post in the description if I’m able to get that😊 Doesn’t Bicomponents list the SID?
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SL for me
Not a bad choice🤘
Video title spelling mate! The forks look good, nice colour, the square edges are a little odd, not bad odd just different.
Thanks for that! The "advantages" of a one-man-band😇
It looks better in person and that blue is really nice.
I go to that store lol cool
Yeah close by😊
@@LoveMTB I’m not close , Brantford lol
A bit cheap with the fork not coming stock with the bolt-on fender!
Yeah agree. But maybe decided to ship both with same so ppl don’t see it as a disadvantage for the SL? On the flip side it was probably cheaper🤔
@@LoveMTB Here in Australia they are a $AU1500 fork and a $AU40 fender... it's tight-ass!
@@davidrae8475 same in Canada 😊
For the love of god stop banging the forks together!!! Just as well they are not your forks lol i would be ragin!! Apart from that good review.
Fist for the record - no forks have been harmed during this review!🤓
And don’t worry they’re not that fragile or brittle, finish on lowers is pretty hard, great for the application
A race fork with manual lockout makes no sense
Same here 👍
Wrongly installed adapter :) you'll never could fit the wheel.
Huh?😉
@@LoveMTB this tiny black shim should be mounted towards the crown of the fork :) on the video it's mounted vice versa.
@@M1keBLR Are we all talking about the Torque Cap adapter?😊
@@LoveMTB yeap
@@M1keBLR but you guys got the point right?🤓