I feel like they don't want to do the R&D/retooling and let LTT do the RDO cut instead. The inside of the slide has a lightening cut that makes any optic direct mount system infeasible. They're going to need to design a plate system that can work with the lifting firing pin block. I asked a local shop if they could work on my PX4 to avoid LTT's $300 price tag. They said no after looking at how to do it for 2 weeks due to the reasons above, but LTT does give you a plate system, and new 1/3 co-witness irons.
You forgot America is a secondary market for beretta and other European gun makers they build guns for European contracts and civilians sales and just import them here because they can
You're talking about the same company that the Gen 2 tomcat only has a different mag release 🤣 They couldn't even make it double stack, Beretta is not a modern gun manufacturer dude.
They do make fantastic guns. I saw there flagship store. You would not believe the amazing shotguns Beretta makes. You could spend a ton of money. That goes with anything, really, it does not stop or start with your favorite hobby. Some stereo systems would have you shaking your head.
absolutely. H&K needs to take notice of what Beretta is doing with LTT. I used to be a massive HK fan and i've sold every single one with the exception of the first gun i ever bought, which was a p30L
I love Beretta products too, I have many. But be very wary of their rebates. Several times when I received the check in the mail, it takes 10 weeks to get, the check is Stale dated and you have to request another...and wait 10 more weeks. I'm one my third...10 week segment.😢
They’ll never do it as good as Langdon. The 92x rdo still can’t have co witness irons cause the mount is too high. Langdon knows beretta better than beretta, that’s a fact
$2500 for that is a rip off. The CEO of PSA went on the GOA podcast calling out all these manufacturers for overcharging on their products. We all knew that but having a manufacturer call out others is just beautiful
PSA QC check be like “we eye balled it.” PSA daily deals be like “yeah this is the same MSRP as last week, buy our crap” PSA be like “buy our mystery meat shotguns we imported”
@@nfaisnfgay LOL you're probably right on some things, but they do have some good deals at times. I recently bought an HK from them that was about $150 cheaper than anyone else online, and they shipped for free. Hopefully they can maintain/improve their branded products quality. We really need some heavy hitting gun/ammo manufacturers that are on the 2A communities side...
@@nfaisnfgaymy psa fire arms have always been perfect. But I buy them in the store in Columbia. We get the best because we can inspect the firearm then and there. You buy them online they can send you whatever.
@@paulsmith5611 I don't think it's a major difference, like if you hang a weapons light off the front, it should act the same with the bull barrel. You can buy the Comp and Magwell by itself
@@MrNgMichaelhow do you know this? I didn’t watch the whole video but this is what I was hoping for. Did they say those two were backwards compatible at some point in the video?
@@jacob92icu Humble Marksman's video said LTT/beretta just bored out a .40 s&w barrel blank and probably enlarged the hole where the barrel fits through, or used the .40 slide. With glocks, the .40 and 9mm frames are the same, with different parts to shoot each caliber so I'm guessing the same probably applies for the PX4. Unless you mean the comp + magwell? The magwell is from springer precision and the comp is from vantage point armory.
@@MrNgMichael Yea I was referring to the comp and magwell. Literally the two things I have wanted on this gun for some time! Just checked their pages and they are both for sale now, awesome!
Maybe you had bad luck with the one[s] you handled, but I have a hard time imagining that the original factory trigger could be much better. With the Langdon work, it's lighter, and smoother in the double action pull, but the single action break on the PX4 has always been pretty darn crisp.
Ive had my Storm for 12-13 years. Ive got over 3000 rounds thru it. I wouldn't trade it for a new one. Mine is green frame and black slide factory. Iove it!!! EDC since ive had it. Never a problem. Thanks Beretta!
PX4 is the only gun I recommend anymore for people getting into CCW. The trigger is unbelievable, and the gun itself is relatively inexpensive. Fit and feel are exemplary. One of the nicest guns Beretta has ever made.
Good luck ever having to get it sent in for service. I won't argue the guns are Uber reliable but even the best designs need service and parts at some point in Beretta simply doesn't back up their guns or their customers at all.
Those asking about suppressors and threaded barrels. From what I remember in James review of the original, the barrel rotates, instead of a tilted barrel like a striker fire pistol the barrel rotates meaning the suppressor will literally twist off so its impossible to silence. Pros and cons to that style recoil system including durability but yeah, no threaded barrells
Incorrect…. My S&W 5.7 has a threaded rotating barrel w sleeve straight from the factory and is amazing suppressed. No need for a piston set up either!!!
@highrafterranch1982 "6 reasons why I could carry the Berretta PX4 storm compact" by TFBTV 18min 20sec in James explains why you can't use a suppressor. So I guess it's a different rotating system because you're right the S&W can use one but the PX4 cannot
Beretta: $850 msrp because…..Beretta. Also Beretta: no red dot cutout and here is some grip tape. Langdon: that’s a cute Glock, here try my $2,500 EDC.
I mean, Glock owners change out literally everything. I have a “Glock” that literally has not one Glock part in it at all, their MOS system is trash, and half of the Glocks I see are stippled, have finger grooves removed, or have a big old Dremel sanding drum diameter groove under the trigger guard - but yeah, complain about grip tape.
Really dope handguns. I'd love to get one of the .45 ACP ones some day, but I'd take any of them. Still kicking myself for not getting a gently used one at my local gun store for $400 a few years back.
The same reason you have to give it to LTT do make it like most regular modern guns. Because Beretta is mass producing them and cutting as many corners as they can.
I picked up my PX4 Compact e few years back and totally love the heck out of it! Now Beretta adds these new guns to the line-up and I just gotta have one of these in my collection!!
I have a 2005 model of the PX4 full size with almost as many rounds through it as your 50,000+ round test gun. It is still the best shooting pistol I have owned. Of course, a little updating and upgrading has gone into it over the years, but, I have kept it all in the Beretta/Langdon family.
PX4 full size was my first handgun. It is so pleasant to shoot and fun. I did the performance trigger upgrade on it from Beretta and made it even better. I would love to have that 2.5k gun but my pockets are a little empty right now.
100% I’m not gun Jew since they do last forever. But charging that much for a polymer gun when everyone else is doing it for way cheaper is ridiculous.
@@ghostdog2041 They don't have any laurels to rest on. Beretta hasn't been a competitor in the United States pistol market since...perhaps the early 1990's? They compete in one market only: shotguns. Their rifles aren't competitive, their handguns aren't competitive. They don't have a particularly good reputation for handguns in the U.S. with a lot of disgruntled ex-soldiers having put up with service guns (I know our agency didn't enjoy our Beretta products). I think Beretta realizes they sell their handguns to a very small market of Beretta fanboys. That's it. Those guys will buy every version of a 92 they can produce, and will occasionally buy something like a PX-4 because "different". No one's buying a PX-4 because it's a genuinely competitive product with other handguns on the market.
I want one of the Langdon PX4s so much, but haven't been able to bring myself to pull the trigger, as it were. Seeing the line supported with new product makes me feel a lot more confident about doing so. I know Beretta really believes in this design, and hope they keep up with those grey finishes. And those MSRPs aren't too bad...for Beretta.
Ammo, James. We want to hear from ammo manufacturers how they're working to increase capacity (if they come to Shot?). New tech is great, but there's gotta be some honest, direct ammo coverage from someone. Keep up the good work! 🤙
Trust me...the ammo industry has no vested interest in increasing supply/reducing profit. They're all capable of expanding, and are just enjoying the "new normal" of $0.45 a round of 5.56, and $0.25 a round for 9mm.
@@oskar6661 That's fine short term, but it's an unsustainable business model (assuming no cartel or gov't subsidy) . Producers who provide the same goods at a lower price will still gain advantage over other producers. S&D
I just broke in my PX4 last night at the range, I suck as a pistol shooter but the gun is just so great, wish I could get the gen 2 but in CA that wont happen any time soon....
@@sprocket8934 we dont have the compact version available, only full size. For this new version, it will be a long while if ever due to roster laws here
The PX4 is one of those guns that flies under the radar of most gun geeks. It is an exceedingly well-built pistol that is VERY durable. Ernest does a wonderful job of excising the full-capability of the PX4. Thanks for the video, James!
was just checking my PX4 40 it has the same length as a 92 compact nice to know for those of us that like a full size gun we do not have to choose full size or compact when deciding which to carry its a win win with what ever we choose enjoy
This is the one gun, i had to show everyone. When they see it, they are like , "Eh"... When they shoot it. They are like "Whooooa"... i wish i could afford the whole package. I found my PX4, lightly used, almost new, for $330, With 9 mags. 4-15s and 5-10s.
Wow that looks great. Definitely going to get it as soon as they ship in, assuming they aren't already sold out. The compensated light combo with that grey finish and the optic really does make it a next gen handgun. Beretta is the world's oldest firearms manufacturer, and they continue to exist because of their quality and innovation. Will it take a D hammer spring like the last generation?
I just got my PX4 Storm Compact Carry-2. I really like the recessed hammer, and really like the orange-red glow front sight. It's very easy to line up on target. Try it, you'll like it. - I have to say its trigger is the absolute best there is compared to all the other DA pistols I have - velvety smooth and precise DA action each and every time. Another thing: it's really good the frame is polymer. If it was metal, the pistol would be too heavy. As it is; it weighs 27.4 oz empty, which is notably heavier than any other compact pistol I have. -- I haven't fired it yet because I'm in the process of learning all about it. - One thing I think will really surprise new users of this weapon is the decocker. When I first racked it and used the decocker, I expected a soft seating of the hammer like on my other DA pistols. My CZ decocker is the best - it softly seats the hammer to half-cock. - Well, this decocker releases the hammer with seemingly full trigger force. I thought:- Oh boy -- that's not good! - It felt like decocking the hammer would certainly fire the pistol. The hammer force in decocking felt exactly the same as dry-firing it. - So, got my trusty 9mm dummy laser round - put it in there - decocked it - the hammer came down hard, but no laser fire. Dry-fired it and the laser lit up on the wall. Did both several times with the same result - decocking doesn't activate the laser round while firing the pistol does. Since Beretta does not cover this very strange phenomenon in their manual or in any review I've seen so far, can someone please explain how the hammer coming down with seemingly full firing force while decocking does not fire the pistol? Thanks.
Sounds like it should work hypothetically, BUT you would have to convince beretta to sell the barrels separately. Right now can’t get separate barrels or slides or grips from Langdon, might be able to get some parts from beretta , but beretta only sends complete guns to Langdon.
This pistol has a major design flaw that was cleverly retrofitted by Langdon Tactical through his creative genius. Originally I had thought that the custom trigger job, a 1000 dollar cost, was required in order to perform the optic cut, but it is only 294 dollars for the optic cut.
LT needs to seriously improve their web site. It’s ambiguous when you see the $1000 price tag for an enhanced trigger job without telling you that a pistol is or is not included in that price.
1:07 If Beretta fixes the slick grip by redesigning it, adding texture to the sides (current grip has none on the sides) like what Glock did moving from one generation to the next, then I'll give to you: it's a new PX4. As is, you still have to apply grip tape, it's not new. It's the same gun they've been making since 20 years ago :)
I handled a PX4 and it seemed top heavy with a bit of weight. I’d like to revisit the design and see if it changes my mind considering the amount of time it has been since I last handled one.
I like the action, but Beretta should be ashamed for how they've failed to develop this gun. Beretta did almost nothing to any of these, but they made a marketing partnership with one gunsmith to do the improvements for extra charge
Yes, I owned one many years ago. It was way to heavy for me. Then again-I am 5-8" and weigh a whopping 116 lbs. That should say something there. I am a weak SOB.
I have one in 40S&W and it is the best 40 I have in terms of shootability. It makes shooting 40S&W like shooting 9mm. I just wish they would do a better stipple job on it so you don't have to keep adding grip tape cause the grip is too slippery without it. Beretta are you listening, improve the grip on the PX4 and it will be near perfections. Oh and then come out with one in 10mm.
While I believe these are far superior and I’d take one of these over ANY Glock (Austrian for Hi Point), I’d still take my P07, P10S or Shadow 2 anyway!
Great content as always! Quick question, I have a px4 storm from 2010. Can I buy a heavy profile barrel to replace the original barrel and improve on recoil?
Have owned the LTT PX4 compact for well over a year now with a couple K rounds through her. Never 1 failure of any kind with any ammunition so reliability is top tier for a carry gun. Faster shooting for me than any of the other popular brand polymer guns I own because that trigger is so damn nice and that rotating barrel does make a difference. Also Like being able to de-cock the weapon and put my thumb on the hammer when re-holstering. May look at adding a few of the new accessories to her. Would probably buy a new slide and barrel if offered.
I've always heard good things about the Storm but never been motivated to get one until now and I'm even more tempted to get a Langdon one. Fuck you, Ernest!😂
Appears that way. Unfortunately. I will say, though, there is not much muzzle flip due to the rotating barrel and barrel weight, so you don’t need the aggressive grip texture that some guns need in order to be fired (on target) quickly. Just get a high grip and torque your off-hand arm to apply a good amount of pressure and go to work.
I have a full size and it is a fantastic gun. I use a high grip, but that is where the issues comes from; there is nothing there for the entire palm of my support hand. I have talon grips and they do work well. But, if Beretta and Langdon and including them, it seems to me that they are almost acknowledging the problem, just thought tey would have a better fix then 'here are talon grips'. @@wheelguns4wheelmen802
While I'm sure the PX-4 is a fine pistol...this kind of stuff, particulalry Langdon stuff is really for the niche-of-niche Beretta fanbois who are just looking for something different. Is there any reason to buy this over a world-class CZ DA/SA gun? Probably not...but sometimes you just wanna be different.
I would love to try the ltt to see it’s worth it. $2500 for a pistol is a lot of coin. you are entering 1911 ds pricing. It might be better than a glock but that is almost 5 glocks worth or a stacato. It would be nice if berreta added rds cuts
Nice, hopefully these will be available in more places because I looked high & low for any of the storms last year & I couldn't find none of them nowhere in my area, Also it be really cool to see a micro version that is even smaller than the p365, it would be really nice to see a version that is in .45, & 10mm, & it would be really cool to see a version that is a system that could be changed or have add ons, like say you make 2 versions or so, 1 version can be .22 & 9mm, or 9mm & .45 cal, or .45 & 10mm, maybe a .38 & 9mm, Something like those 2 versions in 1 tool that can be changed, maybe the frame can be changed, the barrel, etc. Depending on what the user wants that day, so maybe they want a smaller frame .45, the next day maybe they want a bigger Frame 9mm, That would be really cool, and give a ton more value, 1 tool being able to transform into basically 2 or maybe more versions without having to buy a completely different full priced tool, because money is tight for most it would offer a ton of value no doubt. Also been thinking what if they made revolvers that had a quick replace cylinder instead of having to replace the 6 rounds 1 by 1 or with a speed loader, instead you just click a button like on a semi and the whole cylinder falls out like a mag, and you just pop the next cylinder in already full and it would click in an do it's thing like any other revolver, I feel that would be a super cool way to make them a lot more versatile & make them more viable in a age where semis kind of rule the day in terms of speed. Idk just a few ideas I think lots of people would like.
My .40 PX4 full size has less felt recoil than some 9mm. I love this gun. The fact that they added a heavier barrel for recoil and even lighter double action sounds amazing!
Don't worry - almost no one can/does. There's a very small niche of Langdon Beretta fanboys who drive the business. Beretta is a niche brand...and expensive, re-worked Berettas are a niche of that niche.
Love the PX four storm carry it every day. The problem is if I see this new gun I will buy it and I already have two of them one and nine and one and 40.
Its almost painful they didnt make this an RDO from the factory.
I feel like they don't want to do the R&D/retooling and let LTT do the RDO cut instead. The inside of the slide has a lightening cut that makes any optic direct mount system infeasible. They're going to need to design a plate system that can work with the lifting firing pin block.
I asked a local shop if they could work on my PX4 to avoid LTT's $300 price tag. They said no after looking at how to do it for 2 weeks due to the reasons above, but LTT does give you a plate system, and new 1/3 co-witness irons.
You forgot America is a secondary market for beretta and other European gun makers they build guns for European contracts and civilians sales and just import them here because they can
It was designed prior to micro red dots being slide mounted.
You have to deal with the exposed firing pin block.
@@MrNgMichaelI just got the beretta Apx A1 with a red dot factory installed. They may do a bundle like that for this one.
The px4 is one of those guns that would be from the factory amazing if it had a gen 2
Agreed, the APX line just doesn't cut it for me. PX4 Storm 2.0! So glad Ernest is keeping the PX4 alive and well.
they gotta do a Gen 2 where they give the compact a 4" barrel like the full size. 3.27" is wayyyy too short.
Isn’t the px4 just a Gen 2 cougar???
You're talking about the same company that the Gen 2 tomcat only has a different mag release 🤣
They couldn't even make it double stack, Beretta is not a modern gun manufacturer dude.
Isnt this video about them releasing the 2.0 ?
Nice to see an updated double/ single-action hammer-fired pistol in 2024! Beretta is awesome!
They do make fantastic guns. I saw there flagship store. You would not believe the amazing shotguns Beretta makes. You could spend a ton of money. That goes with anything, really, it does not stop or start with your favorite hobby. Some stereo systems would have you shaking your head.
absolutely. H&K needs to take notice of what Beretta is doing with LTT. I used to be a massive HK fan and i've sold every single one with the exception of the first gun i ever bought, which was a p30L
I love Beretta products too, I have many. But be very wary of their rebates. Several times when I received the check in the mail, it takes 10 weeks to get, the check is Stale dated and you have to request another...and wait 10 more weeks. I'm one my third...10 week segment.😢
@@Str8Razor451 Hope you get your order soon!
I love Beretta and would like an PX4 but I'm not paying for an aftermarket RDO cutout. Wake up Beretta and offer it yourself!!!! Maybe next year!
it's so fucking lame
essentially they're making the same shit gun from 2004 but saying "hey if you want it to actually be good pay $1200 to Langdon"
They are excellent guns. Low recoil, accurate, and reliable.
Yeah that’s a major fail. I’m pretty sure even hi point pistols have an rdr cut in then these days.
cool story bro let us know when you've wired $1.5k to Langdon @@rangerdanger222
They’ll never do it as good as Langdon. The 92x rdo still can’t have co witness irons cause the mount is too high. Langdon knows beretta better than beretta, that’s a fact
$2500 for that is a rip off. The CEO of PSA went on the GOA podcast calling out all these manufacturers for overcharging on their products. We all knew that but having a manufacturer call out others is just beautiful
Killer move by PSA! Makes me want to buy some of their products.
PSA QC check be like “we eye balled it.”
PSA daily deals be like “yeah this is the same MSRP as last week, buy our crap”
PSA be like “buy our mystery meat shotguns we imported”
@@nfaisnfgay LOL you're probably right on some things, but they do have some good deals at times. I recently bought an HK from them that was about $150 cheaper than anyone else online, and they shipped for free. Hopefully they can maintain/improve their branded products quality. We really need some heavy hitting gun/ammo manufacturers that are on the 2A communities side...
@@nfaisnfgaymy psa fire arms have always been perfect. But I buy them in the store in Columbia. We get the best because we can inspect the firearm then and there. You buy them online they can send you whatever.
@@nfaisnfgaynot the first time I’ve heard PSA has crappy quality control
Would love one w factory dot cut without spending 1,600 more and waiting six weeks. Guess we’ll just wait another 20 years.
$1,600 for a dot cut? You been getting scammed hard.
@@Knovocaine did u watch the video, numbnuts?
I got my CZ P10C OR for 350USD ... So, yeah those prices are outrageous..
@@Knovocaineyou don’t know what your talking about. They gotta redesign half the gun just to make it optics ready.
@@Knovocaine That’s because that’s not how much it costs. It’s like 300ish
I wished they would sell the slide + Barrel on its own, for people that already own PX4s
Agreed since I just bought the first gen PX4. I should have waited a few months but of course I didn't know
@@paulsmith5611 I don't think it's a major difference, like if you hang a weapons light off the front, it should act the same with the bull barrel. You can buy the Comp and Magwell by itself
@@MrNgMichaelhow do you know this? I didn’t watch the whole video but this is what I was hoping for. Did they say those two were backwards compatible at some point in the video?
@@jacob92icu Humble Marksman's video said LTT/beretta just bored out a .40 s&w barrel blank and probably enlarged the hole where the barrel fits through, or used the .40 slide.
With glocks, the .40 and 9mm frames are the same, with different parts to shoot each caliber so I'm guessing the same probably applies for the PX4.
Unless you mean the comp + magwell? The magwell is from springer precision and the comp is from vantage point armory.
@@MrNgMichael Yea I was referring to the comp and magwell. Literally the two things I have wanted on this gun for some time! Just checked their pages and they are both for sale now, awesome!
I had the original Px4, all it needed was a Gen 2 version with better texturing, optics cut, better sights and a better trigger.
I feel like you just summed up the entirety of beretta handguns.
Maybe you had bad luck with the one[s] you handled, but I have a hard time imagining that the original factory trigger could be much better. With the Langdon work, it's lighter, and smoother in the double action pull, but the single action break on the PX4 has always been pretty darn crisp.
3:10 homie's shooting face lol
You beat me to it 😂
That's Jason from Classic Firearms!
i cant laugh, i look just like that at my range
Bahahahahaha
Maybe he's making that face when he heard how much the pistol costs.
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Very cool seeing this gun get a second wind in the market. Not for me but it always seemed under appreciated
Ive had my Storm for 12-13 years. Ive got over 3000 rounds thru it. I wouldn't trade it for a new one. Mine is green frame and black slide factory. Iove it!!!
EDC since ive had it. Never a problem. Thanks Beretta!
Lol: that’s less than 250 rounds a year.
@@84kjk thru that gun yes it is . Do you only have one you shoot? 3000 and never a ftf . That's reliable enough for me.
Just make the frame have a decent grip texture like a modern handgun instead of offering free ugly grip tape in the box...
Agreed. The grip is already chunky, so adding tape on it isn't much of a solution.
it's so fucking lame.
they haven't touched the gun in 20 years, saying you put grip tape on it is so embaressing
Yep the damn thing is slick as soap in a shower as is. I have one that's a police trade in, and when they wear it's even worse
Just get some goon tape
@@NotAnOperator442 you could work at BerettaUSA with that innovative advice 😆
PX4 is the only gun I recommend anymore for people getting into CCW. The trigger is unbelievable, and the gun itself is relatively inexpensive. Fit and feel are exemplary. One of the nicest guns Beretta has ever made.
All I recommend anyone do with the gun out of the box is put grip tape on it. That's it, it's perfect after that.
Trigger kinda sucks out of the box. Especially compared to a P229 or a CZ.
Good luck ever having to get it sent in for service. I won't argue the guns are Uber reliable but even the best designs need service and parts at some point in Beretta simply doesn't back up their guns or their customers at all.
Wtf would u pick a px4 over a glock or sig product. MIL AND lE push accessories and holster development
Had a pre-RDO PX4 LTT. My only concern recommending these for new CCW’s is holster availability.
Those asking about suppressors and threaded barrels. From what I remember in James review of the original, the barrel rotates, instead of a tilted barrel like a striker fire pistol the barrel rotates meaning the suppressor will literally twist off so its impossible to silence. Pros and cons to that style recoil system including durability but yeah, no threaded barrells
Incorrect…. My S&W 5.7 has a threaded rotating barrel w sleeve straight from the factory and is amazing suppressed. No need for a piston set up either!!!
We all know a suppressor doesn't work on the PX4.
@TheHandHistoryVault I'm glad you know but many didn't
@@highrafterranch1982yeah it's a different gun. The entire barrel rotates on a px4
@highrafterranch1982 "6 reasons why I could carry the Berretta PX4 storm compact" by TFBTV
18min 20sec in James explains why you can't use a suppressor. So I guess it's a different rotating system because you're right the S&W can use one but the PX4 cannot
Beretta: $850 msrp because…..Beretta.
Also Beretta: no red dot cutout and here is some grip tape.
Langdon: that’s a cute Glock, here try my $2,500 EDC.
Nobody is holding one to your head and forcing you to buy it
@@richardbudd5334 Because nobody is buying it, lmao
@@richardbudd5334 You understand that is not a useful response to a stupid price right? A stupid price...is a stupid price.
@@oskar6661amen
I mean, Glock owners change out literally everything. I have a “Glock” that literally has not one Glock part in it at all, their MOS system is trash, and half of the Glocks I see are stippled, have finger grooves removed, or have a big old Dremel sanding drum diameter groove under the trigger guard - but yeah, complain about grip tape.
Love the PX4 - Thank you for all the sweet-sweet Beretta content!
Really dope handguns. I'd love to get one of the .45 ACP ones some day, but I'd take any of them. Still kicking myself for not getting a gently used one at my local gun store for $400 a few years back.
Know that aggravating feeling .
Beretta makes the best hammer fired gun in the market.
1995 called…
Sig P22X series >>>>>
Until you grab a CZ
So glad the PX4 hasn't faded into the mists of time and has been recognized for the handgun it truly is.
Why not create better grip to the polymer frame instead of the grip tape?
Because money. It's cheaper to give a roll of band aids then to change their injection moldings.
The same reason you have to give it to LTT do make it like most regular modern guns. Because Beretta is mass producing them and cutting as many corners as they can.
Why hasn't Beretta updated the grip?
@@tomb1291 because it must not be worth it monetarily. They must not sell enough of them to change the production. I don’t know anyone who has one.
I got on board with the LTT PX4 upgrades for my Compact Inox shortly after he made them available and it is a wonderful gun.
I picked up my PX4 Compact e few years back and totally love the heck out of it!
Now Beretta adds these new guns to the line-up and I just gotta have one of these in my collection!!
That rotating barrel is pretty cool. Underrated gun for sure.
I carried the original px4 storm in .40 for years. Excellent yet underrated handgun.
Will these new models be offered in .40 ???? If not, I don't care about them anymore.
40 sw is gay
@@channeellll7623 says the dude that wouldn’t want to be hit with one.
I have a 2005 model of the PX4 full size with almost as many rounds through it as your 50,000+ round test gun. It is still the best shooting pistol I have owned. Of course, a little updating and upgrading has gone into it over the years, but, I have kept it all in the Beretta/Langdon family.
Had a PX4 compact within months of it coming out. Don’t have it anymore, but good feelings every time I see one. That new Langdon “Wow”. Love it.
PX4 full size was my first handgun. It is so pleasant to shoot and fun. I did the performance trigger upgrade on it from Beretta and made it even better. I would love to have that 2.5k gun but my pockets are a little empty right now.
How can it have been 20 years! I really didn't think about that fact. I had my P4 Storm longer than I thought, lol.
With all these upgrades, why didn't Beretta address the lack of grip texture?
Because it isn’t beretta making the changes. Its LTT
They said they include wrap around grip tape in the box
@@Swishersweetcigarilo 2500 MSRP, and I get grip tape? You lost me.
Because they would have to change the molds from 2005. And that will not happen at beretta.
Italians have the soft manicured hands of a tailor soaked in olive oil because callouses might ruin the finish of a Lamborgotti Fasterossa
Trijicon makes some great PX4 sights.
The plain PX4 -2 compact with 3 mags should be no higher than $575 street cost. So many other great options for that price point and less in 2024.
100% I’m not gun Jew since they do last forever. But charging that much for a polymer gun when everyone else is doing it for way cheaper is ridiculous.
For sure. I got a P365 with a flat trigger and night sights for $400. Beretta is resting on their proverbial laurels.
@@ghostdog2041 They don't have any laurels to rest on. Beretta hasn't been a competitor in the United States pistol market since...perhaps the early 1990's? They compete in one market only: shotguns. Their rifles aren't competitive, their handguns aren't competitive. They don't have a particularly good reputation for handguns in the U.S. with a lot of disgruntled ex-soldiers having put up with service guns (I know our agency didn't enjoy our Beretta products).
I think Beretta realizes they sell their handguns to a very small market of Beretta fanboys. That's it. Those guys will buy every version of a 92 they can produce, and will occasionally buy something like a PX-4 because "different". No one's buying a PX-4 because it's a genuinely competitive product with other handguns on the market.
Looks like Ben is enjoying that Italian food lol
I like the ability to decock, ride you thumb on the hammer when holstering. Like to have seen the double action trigger pull feel of this new one.
It NEED'S A Red Dot Cutout
From The Factory !!!
“We won’t fix the grip, we’ll just put tape on it” sooooo much innovation…sike
I want one of the Langdon PX4s so much, but haven't been able to bring myself to pull the trigger, as it were. Seeing the line supported with new product makes me feel a lot more confident about doing so. I know Beretta really believes in this design, and hope they keep up with those grey finishes. And those MSRPs aren't too bad...for Beretta.
3:40 that VPA comp looks incredible!!!!
Ordered one of the compact carry packages in this video, 6 weeks can't go by fast enough!
Where did you get it
Same here, if people snooze on this they will be sold out before you know it. Langdon tacticals website
Forget it , stupid question .
Ammo, James. We want to hear from ammo manufacturers how they're working to increase capacity (if they come to Shot?). New tech is great, but there's gotta be some honest, direct ammo coverage from someone. Keep up the good work! 🤙
Trust me...the ammo industry has no vested interest in increasing supply/reducing profit. They're all capable of expanding, and are just enjoying the "new normal" of $0.45 a round of 5.56, and $0.25 a round for 9mm.
@@oskar6661 That's fine short term, but it's an unsustainable business model (assuming no cartel or gov't subsidy) . Producers who provide the same goods at a lower price will still gain advantage over other producers. S&D
Definitely getting that flat trigger for my LTT PX4 when it comes out
I hope ben can hit the gym this year and get healthy. Hes seems like a good dude and I want to see him around in the future.
Glad to hear this news. I love my current P×4 Compact Carry.
I just broke in my PX4 last night at the range, I suck as a pistol shooter but the gun is just so great, wish I could get the gen 2 but in CA that wont happen any time soon....
We are getting it soon
@SSoHPKCSON gen2? I know CA is getting something px4 related. Tell me its the compact carry too....
@@sprocket8934 yes to gen 2, I believe we are getting both models
@@sprocket8934 we dont have the compact version available, only full size. For this new version, it will be a long while if ever due to roster laws here
I'm hoping we can buy the heavy barrel slide and use it on my existing PX4 lower
Homie, that chinese spy balloon is selling berettas now!
No way in hell I’m paying 2400 for that gun . One word STACCATO !
I'll take two Glocks with Acros and some ammo for that price. This is the ugliest handgun I've ever seen anyway.
The Glock is ugly
The PX4 is one of those guns that flies under the radar of most gun geeks. It is an exceedingly well-built pistol that is VERY durable. Ernest does a wonderful job of excising the full-capability of the PX4. Thanks for the video, James!
The Cool Factor is Off the Charts!
was just checking my PX4 40 it has the same length as a 92 compact nice to know for those of us that like a full size gun we do not have to choose full size or compact when deciding which to carry its a win win with what ever we choose enjoy
This is the one gun, i had to show everyone. When they see it, they are like , "Eh"... When they shoot it. They are like "Whooooa"... i wish i could afford the whole package. I found my PX4, lightly used, almost new, for $330, With 9 mags. 4-15s and 5-10s.
Damn that's a hell of a deal!
@@brickhammerSS Perks of working at Range USA.
@@NicoEl119 I'd like to know how much the dude paid for all those mags, lol
@@brickhammerSS lol. It is like $300 worth of mags, he had to give away with the gun. Because we don't pay for mags on trade ins...
Wow that looks great. Definitely going to get it as soon as they ship in, assuming they aren't already sold out. The compensated light combo with that grey finish and the optic really does make it a next gen handgun. Beretta is the world's oldest firearms manufacturer, and they continue to exist because of their quality and innovation. Will it take a D hammer spring like the last generation?
Get OPTIC-READY versions in ALL CALIBERS back on tha CA Roster!!!
Get rid of the roster 🤡
@chrism4008 Surely, u don't believe we have free n fair elections in tha PRK?
I just got my PX4 Storm Compact Carry-2. I really like the recessed hammer, and really like the orange-red glow front sight. It's very easy to line up on target. Try it, you'll like it. - I have to say its trigger is the absolute best there is compared to all the other DA pistols I have - velvety smooth and precise DA action each and every time. Another thing: it's really good the frame is polymer. If it was metal, the pistol would be too heavy. As it is; it weighs 27.4 oz empty, which is notably heavier than any other compact pistol I have. -- I haven't fired it yet because I'm in the process of learning all about it. - One thing I think will really surprise new users of this weapon is the decocker. When I first racked it and used the decocker, I expected a soft seating of the hammer like on my other DA pistols. My CZ decocker is the best - it softly seats the hammer to half-cock. - Well, this decocker releases the hammer with seemingly full trigger force. I thought:- Oh boy -- that's not good! - It felt like decocking the hammer would certainly fire the pistol. The hammer force in decocking felt exactly the same as dry-firing it. - So, got my trusty 9mm dummy laser round - put it in there - decocked it - the hammer came down hard, but no laser fire. Dry-fired it and the laser lit up on the wall. Did both several times with the same result - decocking doesn't activate the laser round while firing the pistol does. Since Beretta does not cover this very strange phenomenon in their manual or in any review I've seen so far, can someone please explain how the hammer coming down with seemingly full firing force while decocking does not fire the pistol? Thanks.
Now they got me back interested. I miss my old px4 full size but ditched it due to .40 cal. And never bought a 9mm due to no rdo option.
The PX4 is fantastic. I'll be ordering this one.
Q: Is the new heavy 9mm barrel a drop-in fit for existing .40S&W slides, effectively acting as a conversion barrel?
Sounds like it should work hypothetically, BUT you would have to convince beretta to sell the barrels separately. Right now can’t get separate barrels or slides or grips from Langdon, might be able to get some parts from beretta , but beretta only sends complete guns to Langdon.
I have a px4 storm .40 compact and that gun shoots like butter. Upgrading this pistol is welcome in my mind.
This pistol has a major design flaw that was cleverly retrofitted by Langdon Tactical through his creative genius. Originally I had thought that the custom trigger job, a 1000 dollar cost, was required in order to perform the optic cut, but it is only 294 dollars for the optic cut.
LT needs to seriously improve their web site. It’s ambiguous when you see the $1000 price tag for an enhanced trigger job without telling you that a pistol is or is not included in that price.
1:07 If Beretta fixes the slick grip by redesigning it, adding texture to the sides (current grip has none on the sides) like what Glock did moving from one generation to the next, then I'll give to you: it's a new PX4. As is, you still have to apply grip tape, it's not new. It's the same gun they've been making since 20 years ago :)
I handled a PX4 and it seemed top heavy with a bit of weight. I’d like to revisit the design and see if it changes my mind considering the amount of time it has been since I last handled one.
I like the action, but Beretta should be ashamed for how they've failed to develop this gun. Beretta did almost nothing to any of these, but they made a marketing partnership with one gunsmith to do the improvements for extra charge
That was one of my biggest issues. I sold mine after I got a P365.
@@JimboDaMagnifico1086 ya . I carry an P365XL . Hard to justify buying anything else when I own a gun that shoots just as good as a full size pistol.
Yes, I owned one many years ago. It was way to heavy for me. Then again-I am 5-8" and weigh a whopping 116 lbs. That should say something there. I am a weak SOB.
@@ShawnShipstad compared to other Guns it size, ya.
Thanks, JJ, Ernest, & Ben 👍
this is the PX4 that I dreamed of!!!!!!!!!!!
I have one in 40S&W and it is the best 40 I have in terms of shootability. It makes shooting 40S&W like shooting 9mm. I just wish they would do a better stipple job on it so you don't have to keep adding grip tape cause the grip is too slippery without it. Beretta are you listening, improve the grip on the PX4 and it will be near perfections. Oh and then come out with one in 10mm.
I was excited for this at a level: 9. Then I heard "MSRP of $879.00
My excitement is now a solid 3. I can't with these guys.
How you got this video out so fast? Look forward to more from Shot Show, and welcome to Las Vegas
While I believe these are far superior and I’d take one of these over ANY Glock (Austrian for Hi Point), I’d still take my P07, P10S or Shadow 2 anyway!
Bought a slide from Langdon and the front site yeeted itself into the night and when they put a new one on it wasnt centered
Decock ONLY...HELL YEAH !!!
NOT just because I am a massive fan of the V !!!
Ben can carry a lot of berettas.
Great content as always! Quick question, I have a px4 storm from 2010. Can I buy a heavy profile barrel to replace the original barrel and improve on recoil?
Perfectly happy with my PX4 full size 9mm (G - decocker only) right out of the box.
Nice additions to the PX4 line. I have an old model D that still looks like I bought it yesterday.
what additions they're not doing shit at the factory
The stealth safeties are amazing. I installed them in my PX4 and it makes a big difference when racking the slide. Much less painful.
It's nice to see Beretta collaborated with Hi-Point on the design of this one. Finally a reliable Yeet Cannon
I thought the same thing! That thing is def looking like a hi-point
Wish I'd thought of that crack!!
I have a PX-4 in .45acp. It’s one of the pistols that I will never sell.
Slap some marketing on a 20 year old design and charge me $900 🤦🏼♂️
Wait till you see them slap "staccato" on a 113 year old design and charge you $2.5k for it
@@UrsineArmsNo kidding 😂
major L from Beretta, this shit is a scam
A lot of gun makers take a 113 years old design and charge more than $1500
@@grtorrest Yeah. Here's another example. 1911. Lol
Will they update the PX4 Special Duty .45 ACP version as well? Or all these updates strictly for the 9mm models?
They should make a new pistol with the rotating barrel with it being striker fired. sometimes beretta has weird design choices.
If they did that, I would not buy it.
Or just buy a Grand Power, all their guns have a rotating barrel
I can see Ian talking about it already on Forgotten Weapons.
Have owned the LTT PX4 compact for well over a year now with a couple K rounds through her. Never 1 failure of any kind with any ammunition so reliability is top tier for a carry gun. Faster shooting for me than any of the other popular brand polymer guns I own because that trigger is so damn nice and that rotating barrel does make a difference. Also Like being able to de-cock the weapon and put my thumb on the hammer when re-holstering. May look at adding a few of the new accessories to her. Would probably buy a new slide and barrel if offered.
No factory optic cut is crazy
I just bought my Barretta PXA, yesterday i need to know and understand it better especially those little switches
I like how Beretta doesn't just abandon its guns if they don't outsell the competition, they tinker and make them better and better.
I've always heard good things about the Storm but never been motivated to get one until now and I'm even more tempted to get a Langdon one. Fuck you, Ernest!😂
Grip tape still??
Appears that way. Unfortunately. I will say, though, there is not much muzzle flip due to the rotating barrel and barrel weight, so you don’t need the aggressive grip texture that some guns need in order to be fired (on target) quickly. Just get a high grip and torque your off-hand arm to apply a good amount of pressure and go to work.
I have a full size and it is a fantastic gun. I use a high grip, but that is where the issues comes from; there is nothing there for the entire palm of my support hand. I have talon grips and they do work well. But, if Beretta and Langdon and including them, it seems to me that they are almost acknowledging the problem, just thought tey would have a better fix then 'here are talon grips'. @@wheelguns4wheelmen802
It is silly. They couldn't do a Walther pdp type thing themselves. I want this, but I dunno, feels sort of Frankenstein'd.
Beretta missed a great opportunity to name this re-launched pistol the "PX2024"
They already shipped the comp for myself, pretty good launch if you ask me.
Had mine 8 years, need a PX4 with a metal frame!!!
This needs a optic cutout from the factory. Not to pay another $400-&1000 to Langdon.
Thats a big boy
🤣 $2500 for a px4... When you can buy a PDP with all of the above for like $800 with a better trigger haha.
While I'm sure the PX-4 is a fine pistol...this kind of stuff, particulalry Langdon stuff is really for the niche-of-niche Beretta fanbois who are just looking for something different. Is there any reason to buy this over a world-class CZ DA/SA gun? Probably not...but sometimes you just wanna be different.
I would love to try the ltt to see it’s worth it. $2500 for a pistol is a lot of coin. you are entering 1911 ds pricing. It might be better than a glock but that is almost 5 glocks worth or a stacato. It would be nice if berreta added rds cuts
Nice, hopefully these will be available in more places because I looked high & low for any of the storms last year & I couldn't find none of them nowhere in my area,
Also it be really cool to see a micro version that is even smaller than the p365, it would be really nice to see a version that is in .45, & 10mm,
& it would be really cool to see a version that is a system that could be changed or have add ons, like say you make 2 versions or so, 1 version can be .22 & 9mm, or 9mm & .45 cal, or .45 & 10mm, maybe a .38 & 9mm,
Something like those 2 versions in 1 tool that can be changed, maybe the frame can be changed, the barrel, etc. Depending on what the user wants that day, so maybe they want a smaller frame .45, the next day maybe they want a bigger Frame 9mm,
That would be really cool, and give a ton more value, 1 tool being able to transform into basically 2 or maybe more versions without having to buy a completely different full priced tool, because money is tight for most it would offer a ton of value no doubt.
Also been thinking what if they made revolvers that had a quick replace cylinder instead of having to replace the 6 rounds 1 by 1 or with a speed loader, instead you just click a button like on a semi and the whole cylinder falls out like a mag, and you just pop the next cylinder in already full and it would click in an do it's thing like any other revolver,
I feel that would be a super cool way to make them a lot more versatile & make them more viable in a age where semis kind of rule the day in terms of speed.
Idk just a few ideas I think lots of people would like.
👎👎👎👎👎 🐒🐒🐒🐒🐒 AWFUL English ! Guess you slept thru class the day they taught it.
My .40 PX4 full size has less felt recoil than some 9mm.
I love this gun. The fact that they added a heavier barrel for recoil and even lighter double action sounds amazing!
I hate that I’m so close but can’t get into the range day….yet. But I’ll be looking for the tfbtv crew on the floor of shotshow!
Looks awesome.. I'm sure it shoots very well. But just i can't bring myself to pay Sig spear LT prices for a carry gun. 😢
Don't worry - almost no one can/does. There's a very small niche of Langdon Beretta fanboys who drive the business. Beretta is a niche brand...and expensive, re-worked Berettas are a niche of that niche.
The P30 and now Px4 gotta go to someone else for a red dot mount.
Dammit I JUST bought a px4! I wish I’d known about the new model coming out. Hopefully beretta will release the barrel upgrade for it…
Do they have one with a threaded barrel?
The barrel rotates to chamber a round so threaded attachments would come loose sadly.
I wish they could take muzzle devices.
It's a rotating barrel, so everything unthreads itself pretty quick. They even had to rail mount a suppressor for military trials.
I own several PX4s. They are are great shooting guns. If DA/SA is your thing, they are well worth a look.
If Hop is missing I think Ben ate him!
Love the PX four storm carry it every day. The problem is if I see this new gun I will buy it and I already have two of them one and nine and one and 40.