Supercharged Cummins! Can we get it to run?
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- Опубліковано 25 жов 2024
- In this episode we travel south to see Dave from Old Rigs Downunder to assist him in getting his supercharged Cummins diesel tractor up and running after fitting a different diesel injection pump. #oldtruck #semitruck #tractor #diesel #willitstart #mechanical #supercharged #cummins #blown
#superchargeddiesel
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@oldrigsdownunder7301
@oldamericaniron5767
stevesplacedow...
I love how those old Cummins sound when they are cold (and warmed up of course) but that lopping is awesome. I have a an old 359 with a 400 Cummins (855) and it sounds similar when it starts cold, without that SC whine, of course. Thanks for the video, matey
Great to see you blokes having a beer while working
When it’s that time of day mate it’s a must
Hello from Wisconsin!😊
Hi from Sydney mate thanks for watching
👍 Never get tired of seeing another old one come back to life!
Was a good time mate
Nice camera work mate, good to watch it through and capture some of the fun along the way. Was a great couple of days with you blokes there. Nice to finally get the big Cummins running and idling
I had a great time son. Was a good few days indeed
I’m constantly amazed how close our Australian cousins are to how we are here in the US. Especially the farmers. My grandfather ran an A4T-1600 diesel for decades. 585 engine. Had a blown head gasket once, a cam replacement, and snapped one axle. Not huge horsepower, but could lug like a bigger tractor. We have three Versatiles, and they could outpull it, but I still thought it was a pretty cool tractor. I believe the people that have it now still use it. Never saw a supercharged Cummins before. Ours are all turbocharged.
Your comment was an interesting read.
There's a few videos of supercharged Cummins engines including a 5.9 on YT.
But that's the only time I've seen one.
@@R.Sole88109 I wonder what the advantage is?
@@thevox1075
From what I've read about them one main advantage of the supercharger is lack of turbo lag.
You can also change pulleys to increase boost whereas a turbo, with it's wastegate fully open can only produce a certain amount of boost due to impeller size. Then you need to increase the size and/or number of turbos.
One big disadvantage of superchargers are they take more horsepower to drive them than exhaust gas on an impeller.
I think they're also more expensive to manufacture than a turbo.
There's probably a lot more I'm missing.
Back in that era supercharger knowledge and parts were more common than turbos. By the 30s most supercharger development peaked.
One good example is the Rolls Royce and Packard built Merlin V12. 🇺🇸🤝🏻🇬🇧
Turbocharging and Supercharging by Alan Allard is worth a read too.
Hopefully someone with more knowledge can add to the discussion.
@@R.Sole88109 I’m a diesel mechanic. I was just wondering why they would use that to boost intake pressures. Turbo lag isn’t a problem on a farm tractor.
@@thevox1075
I suspect the answer to why supercharger over a turbo is a question for Clessie Cummins and Hans L. Knudsen.
Sunday morning watching Steve's Place Down Under on U-tube 👌, 3 U-tube mate's having a chin wag 😊 enjoyed the video.
Fantastic mate. Certainly was a different approach to a video for me but worked out good
That's a beast of a tractor! Great that you got it started. It will make some serious pulling power with the blower connected. Enjoyed the video, thanks for sharing it. Cheers!
It is a beast mate indeed. We left it disconnected to dry it out. Somehow had water in it. After the video it was all connected up and sealed off
This freaking buzzin Sound is insane...❤🎉😅😊
What a treat, a bunch of legends and the noise of the blown Cummins, unique but mega.👂🏻👍🏻
I can't wait to hear it under load.
For muffling a runaway I've found a rubber mat a few mil thick then a block works well.
The mat helps create a seal.
Good on yous🍻
The Watch Wes Work channel mentioned is defo with watching especially if you like mechanical problem solving👌🏻
Thanks as always mate. She certainly did sound good. Once we hooked up the piping it sounded a bit better again.
Yes I have a solid rubber pad that I use for engines I’m not sure about for choking them. I think it’s on standby in the transtar 4070 start video.
I do watch Wes mate sometimes. He’s a very handy bloke. Especially with later model electronics in vehicles.
@@stevesplacedownunder
Vaguely recall the block in the Transtar video.
By block I meant wood like in this video, so rubber (like a piece of car mat) to the inlet then wood block and push like fuck.
Nowt like redline for a good time🙉😆
Keep up the good work mate🍻
Steve's place down Under Hope you Can get That Supercharged Cummins Up and Going Keep Up the good work Billy Lizza Uniontown pa USA
Hi Billy yes she started up mate
No screaming GM😂
We used to call them iron lungs back in the day. No better sound than a iron lung Cummins with a back drop manifold
Hi mate. I believe they sounded better with a back drop manifold
Looking forward to this one Steve! Late here so I'll have to watch it in the morning. Looks epic!
Hi mate it’s okay. Was more me filming other blokes but not a bad video. Not my usual way of doing content but turned out good
@@stevesplacedownunder looks genuinely interesting so far! No harm filming other stuff, content can be so hard to find, I know all about it lol
Another great video from Down Under!!!
Thanks as always Mike
Good to see you fella drinking our beer from up here in North Queensland 😂😂😂😂😂🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺. Thanks for the video
Yes I like it mate. Tooheys New when I’m into the full strength though. My pleasure mate
She's plenty loud and proud. Wake up the neighbors with it!
Sure is. A few called in while we were trying to start it
What a beast that would have been a big bit of gear 60 years ago.
Certainly would of been mate
Howdy from the Northwoods of Minnesota, Love and Respect All
Many happy returns mate
Love the vid cobber and your hospitality the assie way.🤠
Thank you mate. Was different to the usual way I do videos but worked well I thought
Good little road trip new Hume Hy remember the old one = different
Certainly was the Hume Highway mate. A long way down to Wagga
The most American Australian ive ever seen
Awesome to see the three channels together! Looked like a lot of fun! Well done to you, Dave and Geoffrey!! Still keen to see the Ford, though!! Ha ha!
It was great Pete. You were the only one missing mate. We did a video of taking the cab off the Ford on the last day Geoffrey was here. First episode of many for that truck mate.
Old American Irons latest video has a bit on the ford in it mate
@@stevesplacedownunder No worries! I'll keep an eye out for it! 👓
ever been to a place called patchy wollock steve.
Hi Joe no mate I haven’t
@@stevesplacedownunder its supposed to be a town in western victoria. it was mentioned in the police tv show blue heelers. not much in it. keep up the good work
Crikey that blower is LOUD ! 😮 's a nice looking tractor though.
It sure is Ard. More so on the video than actual being next to it
nice
Had to laugh seeing you up there, next to the intake of an engine with a history of running away, and a beer still in hand. Id have been hiding. It's always a scary time when you think they might be headed for the horizon 😅
I was ready to choke the inlet mate but was fairly confident because tit was a different injector pump. Still could of though🤣🤣. The other bloke Dave who owns it was very nervous
@@stevesplacedownunder id be bricking it 😂😂
They sound so sweet!
Sure do mate
I like the video
It was a big night beforehand mate. I’m not sure😁🍻🍻🍻
2:23 -> nice line-up of Macks in the background!
Yes there is a good collection there
@@stevesplacedownunder some V8’s I hope?
@@dcl1019 there's a R-615RS "Flintstone" V8 in that collection!
Yay! Another Down Under video!
I’m trying hard mate. Plenty to come
I know the feeling of being jittery on a engine that likes to run away, I have had it happen to me twice...
Thought I was going to need a new pair of pants both times.
p.s.. I have never been around one but a lot of old timers say not to rev those supercharged engines real hard.. it would tend to break the drive off the supercharger.. it was worse on those that had other components ran off the back of the supercharger drive.
It’s happened to me also mate. Not this one though, it happened to the owner.
I haven’t had anything to do with them either until now. Not a lot different apart from the blower I don’t think. Still interesting though
If u need a second guy for drinking beer. Give me a call. Nice video. Btw i like ur Akzent. So funny when u learnd oxford english
Your always welcome too mate if you want.
Nice one Steve 👍from me mate as always
Thanks Nick. Always appreciated mate
Gday Steve. Why is it that we are all so scared of a big runaway diesel engine blowing up while our face is right beside it? Well done boys 😊
Yea mate that’s right. We had to be near it and prepared incase it did actually runaway. He was a bit worried after it had already done it twice
Good video Steve, that’s one bitch of a tractor mate, hope all you guys had a good time nice to see you all together , bet there were a few empty cartons in the morning 🤙🤙🤙🤙
Gday Steve. It has been a bitch for him mate yes. There were a hell of a lot of empties that particular morning, we were all a bit under the weather when this was filmed mate🤣 but we kept at it. Ended up at Dave’s local that night having a few off the tap which were lovely
Give it some. It's hunting for the fuel.
It’s supercharged but the pipe is of it to dry it out of water
the blower do not sound happy lol
Question what the hell do you think the super charger is for on this ENGINE. It has low compression pistons and it willnot run very good on natural air intake . put the cross over back on the ENGINE and see how much better it will run. Have worked for Cummins for years and know this ENGINE well.
Was left off to dry it out. Had water in it. That’s what the hell for. Once fuel system was bled it started just fine without it. We ran it for a while and then fitted it. That’s what the hell for. Thanks for watching
Put 24 volt to it. Gee it up with some sniff. It will loosen the fuel pump up.
G'DAY, MATE,😊.
Gday mate
Just don't understand why people let tractors like that set out unprotected in the weather. I had to borrow money to do it but all my tractors are under a roof...
Not everyone is fortunate enough to borrow money or get councils permission to have these luxuries Johnny. Everyone has different circumstances and it would of been cut up by now if he didn’t save it so a bit of rain is far better than on oxy torch through it. I’m sure if the council approves his shed application that he’s already lodged that’s exactly where it will go.
@@stevesplacedownunder Here in the US we don't normally have to go through such things as approvals etc. Guess it is different in other parts of the world. Glad you got it running...
It looks like it's not getting fuel. Is there a lift pump. If so make sure there's fuel there.
No they don’t have hand primer pumps on those old Cummins engines
I think that engine is a few yrs. older than the tractor is.
Yes it is
Looks like an old 220 Cummins
Yes they are the same to look at. On one side anyway
It’s an N H Cummins, 220 h.p. Naturally aspirated, 262 h.p. With turbo and 300 h.p. with a super charger. Cheers.
@@gerryspang5917 1952 kenworth cummins nh220
Should start better with super charger hooked up
It certainly would yes but we wanted to run it and dry it all out. Somehow had water get into it
What spring and how many shims and what button is in the pump?
No idea. Was just there while he fitted it
What kind of gum are you chewing
👍
Thank you mate
How many great northerns did it take for this one?😂
There were several…
That isn’t Dave Willis, is it?
Sure is
@@stevesplacedownunder recognised that voice a bloody mile away!