Photography Is Now A scam
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I’d like to add… The new wave is everyone selling a course; and most of these “teachers” are just aiming for their own financial goals and don’t care about you learning a thing.
i still told somebody this same thing some days back.....everybody wants to sell a course.No body wants to teach for the love of teaching and letting beginners learn.
It's a lot easier to make 250k a year by convincing people you make 250k/year, and then selling 1000 people a course for $250 to 'teach' them how they too, can learn how to make 250k a year.. Get ready. I'm 90% sure FStoppers is about to come out with another photobiz course in the next few months. :P
U said my mind ...... they are only interested in making money for themselves .
@@akincarlson6817 A year ago, I called out a guy for claiming he charges $8,000 for headshots, said he's doing so to build his rep to sell a tutorial. Yesterday was sent a pic from a friend.. that guy is recording his tutorial right now.hahaha.. Apparently it'll teach you to find unemployed people to pay 8k for headshots, just like him!!!
Are they supposed to teach for free. The world doesn't work that way. You live once. Might as well get compensated for your time.
Years ago I turned my beloved photography into a business, which became a job, which became a disappointment when the economy tanked in 08. No one had money for photos and would screen cap my work - yes even with a watermark across the subjects face. I liquidated my company and went back to corporate America. You are so spot on about people chasing "likes" and "monetization". They sold the soul of their art to feed the algorithm. After a multiyear hiatus I am back. Making photographs of what I want and what I like. I am in love with photography again. It's soul has been restored. Without any "be sure to like and subscribe". Thanks for posting.
Haha! You are spot on and I love that you are back in it again. I love photography and I appreciate the people who do photography for the love of it too. And yes be sure to like and subscribe 😂😂 thanks for the comment
Yowwww I think you just got me out of my funk
I will never turn my hobby, photography, into a job. I've done that as a young man with other hobbies, now I can't do those hobbies anymore. I still get excited to get out and shoot photography and I don't want to loose that.
same for me and videography.
I don’t even post most of my stuff anymore. I record and edit, color grade, and enjoy it a bit. Maybe share it with friends in a message. Then I let it go. The time spent shooting, editing, and fine tuning was the entire fun.
I can’t imagine doing it for work. Imagine having to make a video when you really just don’t want to that day.
'Once they pay you they own you' Bill Cunningham
I agree with you. I have moved away from watching UA-cam gear reviews. I have a good full time job . Photography is my relaxation. Content creation is a joy. I have moved to a self learning mode to avoid being sold to constantly
This is the same thing thats happened to "Tech" in the past few years. People jumping in for the money, ruining the field
They’re selling their souls; exchanging passion for 30 pieces of silver
Unless they are silver stackers AND love photography.
This video needs to go viral now!!!! God bless you mayson for this beautiful video
THANK YOU!!! So good you are discussing these issues.
I agree with everything you said. Have I made money off my photography? Yes, but most of my time with my camera is free and for the last 10 years I continue to learn and shoot.
I still remember the first darkroom print and how excited I was at the process of creating an image, and how I couldn't wait to make another and another. It was so hard to let the next batch of negatives dry before I viewed them, I just wanted to see how they turned out.
Photography is an amazing craft. You have a great message here in that it's not just about money. It's passion, striving to get better, and learning.
One of my favorite things I picked up in college was one of my professors said photography is a journey. So with that - enjoy your photography journey.
Word, that’s with every industry. There’s no heart and soul in anything anymore.
Don't be so dramatic. You're looking in the wrong places.
Preaching bro!! I feel light I need to go back to the fundamentals of photography, lighting, posing, etc.
Maaaann, I feel the EXACT same way! Very good explanation. Couldn't have said it better myself.
It's a consumer's market today where people are quick to join a popular trend for money. Eventually people will become annoyed with constantly being bombarded with ads to buy things they dont need and finally unplug again. Simple things like board games, puzzles, and gardening will reign supreme once more.
I truly understand your viewpoint as a photographer who simply loves to shoot stories for people, the learning is nonstop. Understanding light and creative inspiration drives my craft, not the money
I appreciate your take on this. I also feel that people are more consumed by how many likes or views they get, rather than putting put there soul into things and trying to make there own way. Idk. Weird times for real. But I appreciate your take.
Thank you and thanks for watching the video and your comment. I appreciate you too
Outstanding advice for up an coming photographers....
Congrats on 100k🎉
I feel the exact same way. I just love everything about photography.
@6:53 - 100% agreed! You have to love your craft. The pro photographers out there that are booked WEEKLY are the REAL photographers. It's inspiring to see how much work they're doing and it's always great to see their work too.
Nice🎉Just doing my best for the time im workin w.Thank You
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Yes siirrr!!! It's such a crazy world we are in!!! Everyday there is a new "mentor" in IG tryna preach... No one wants to learn but everyone wants to be paid more...
Very true. Paywall everything that was once shared passion
I do like watching behind the scenes stuff still just not as often cause I learned what I needed to. I’m getting a hunger for more knowledge again. Turning my hobby into a job was a good and bad decision it’s nice making money taking photos but it also sucks when it’s not fun sometimes. But I found my passion again in photography I just learned to not take on too many jobs that will cause me to burn out.
Yes you are 100% right. We live in a money hungry world, they are not passionate about a craft, just about getting to the money. I started back in the mid 90's, I am all about mastering the craft. People want the quick high life. It's most unfortunate.
i agree ! its the passion not always about the money
True, thanks for the comment. I really appreciate it
PREACH! This couldn't be more true. You've got the influx of people who are only in it for the money who don't even take the time to learn, then you have these content creators profiting off of these snake oil get rich quick schemes and preset packs that are NOT teaching and only taking advantage of those new photographers who do want to learn. Love your craft and learn your craft, the moment you make it all about money you will get burned out.
Snake oil get rich quick schemes 😂😂 that’s just the best phrase for it. You said it all.
Prince, I cannot tell you what an amazing video that was. You are right there now seems so few of us that is interested in the "craft" of awesome photography. You are truly a blessing and inspiration to our profession and industry. I am more than proud to call you a colleague. Keep up the amazing work my friend!
Thanks a lot! I really appreciate your comment
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You are spot on. I have tried my best to stay true to the craft, but I don't think i get the exposure as I am not pimping gear. At the end of the day it should be about the photo images, and not the personality or camera. However many of us are guilty at looking at gear reviews when thinking about a new camera etc.
Unfortunately we have to watch gear reviews lol and there’s nothing wrong with that to be honest. If it helps you make the right choice then why not? Thanks for the comment
you are right friend. panda approved video
Thank you!!
No lies told here!
I agree. I have been into photography since I was in high school taking photos for the school yearbook back in 2003. I see so many of these new guys pop up that have no true passion for photography or any real skill but only do it as a content creator. They teach so many bogus ideas, like spray and pray, misuse of gear, etc…. They only pull views because they only take photos of half naked women. The platform is getting sad, so I had to filter out a bunch of the phonies.
I can really resonate with this. I’ve always been into photography, and really want to do product photography as a side business. I have years of experience in loads of other stuff barring photography, mostly art, and understanding the difference between having skill and learning a craft to sell your stuff and learning the absolute bare minimum and expecting to make a living is what honestly destroys a lot of things.
We live in an era now unfortunately though where people think that because they can take mediocre snaps on a smartphone without thought and make it “look pretty” they can do a thing and it should be monetised.
Personally though, having years of experience learning composition, colour, value, how to tell a story in an image, and how to capture an audience with an image is the most important thing.
Picked up a canon Demi 28mm last week, it has major problems and no light seal but just getting off the phone and shooting with this really makes you think about your shots, your framing, your craft.
What we need are more photography docs and such, actually using photography as a medium to tell a story, and with a shift to that I genuinely believe that you are forced to learn your craft and not just sell a mediocre image taken on a camera that is way too expensive and feature rich for your level of skill
Sir you are completly right! I am so sick of all the adds trying to convince you to learn their process, and you have to pay crazy amount of money to get the info!!!
lol it’s really sad
I 100% agree with this..
I agree.. I started photography in 2009/2010 and it was a lot easier to weed through the content
❤❤ educative
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Facts
Soo soo true
Yes. Amen🎉
Bless! 🙏🏿🙌🏿
Sooo true.
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True
Yep
Hi Prince..Talking about the forgotten word CRAFT...maybe the camara technology has created this void in photography craft. For example take shutter speed, in my old Nikon D3 days there was no such thing as image stabilisation, so achieve an acceptable level of sharpness you need to know how to use the camera. I can remember taking to a fellow photographer who also had a D3 and a 70-200 2.8. she said I can't use this lens because I can never achieve sharpness. The reason was she did not realise that you had to wait for the focus point to settle down because of the primitive stabilisation employed in that particular lens. Its only when I chat to a beginner do I realise the huge amount go knowledge that I have gained over the post 15 years or so. It is my understanding and lime you commented, The craft has been forgotten about. Let alone talking about light. Great post bud :-)
Thanks for this video. I share a lot of your views on this topic. How would you suggest the problem be handled?
Great points. I feel like a lot of the content is made to make your gear feel inadequate. Us consuming info, ads and gear reviews is overwhelming and cause us to lose our inspiration. I have tried a bit to disconnect from that a bit, but I’ve done damage to myself by over consuming people’s content, became more of an observer than doer.
Yes, but now all the content seems to be about being able to do without the fancy gear lol
That’s because the internet has been saturated with so much gear videos
Its sad but true, I had to realize that the reviews are not always true and just a long form commercial.
It takes some deep searching to get to be a part of the Indy Mogul generation I was once a part of. It's no longer 2008-2014, so to get a start on those things from the eyes of a new filmmaker/photographer may be a bit complicated. I believe it may be a bit more difficult now in 2024 to get to where someone like me is at on their own now. Young people go into this getting bullied out of it for wanting to make their dream horror film with their politically minded teachers believing they have ulterior motives. Essentially the internet was once the trickle down of the film industry, and 2005-2015 was like had it been a water source of valuable information, but now people are more focused on selling rather than helping for free. A lot of resources that would indeed save someone a lot of hassle has shut down and is no longer available. My last point is that communities are a lot more harsher than they used to be to newcomers vouching more for gatekeeping than helping amateurs. It disappoints me in how the internet has changed from being a library to now a bookstore. The educational tool of using books and the internet now has been kind of overly saturated now with gear reviews.
The Indie Mogul generation!!!!!!!!! Thank you so much for this comment
I agree with your view on this topic. Economic conditions, especially during inflation, are driving people towards seemingly easier ways to earn money.
My aim has always been to inspire passion in photography by simplifying concepts like ISO, shutter speed, and aperture. i've noticed a trend where novices skip these fundamentals and jump directly into professional work like portrait sessions. This approach, while practically challenging, isn't inherently negative, but it does create a dilemma. They often approach me for advice on pricing, prioritizing earnings over artistic development. This underscores how economic pressures are influencing people to view photography as a quick income source rather than an art form. Also, the narrative on platforms like TikTok, which suggests that success in photography only requires a camera, Instagram, and an LLC, further dilutes the essence of the art.
You said it right, photography just feels like a cash grab for a lot of people right now. The soul of the art seems to have left the younger photographers coming in. We can thank the low barrier to entry for this problem.
Great video. I’m a fashion/editorial photographer and didn’t take any classes. My talent with a camera or any I do is The Most High God given.
So true!!! I love photography, and can't imagine not doing it, however, I'm with you and agree that social media is ruining photography. I have no interest in doing BTS videos or creating a course. IG sucks now. My issue is I'm not sure where I can share my work with other like minded people, who just love photography.
Unfortunately I don’t think a platform like that would exist anymore. You’d literally have to create a place where people can import their following for it to be an attractive proposition
I saw a guy claiming he made some high number of dollars from landscape photography in a video where he shows how long it took him to get there and how. Well as you watch the video and see his financial break down you realize he did not in fact make that money from photography. Only a tiny percentage came from actually selling prints or photography services to clients. And all those sales were for sure only due to the youtube channel. The vast majority of his income came from his youtoube AD and sponsorship revenue and distant the second biggest source was his "workshops" which again only had traction because of the the you tube channel. He wasn't a pro photographer at all but a pro youtuber who's topic happened to be landscape photography. When I made a comment pointing this out, it was deleted and my comments stopped showing up for anyone but me on his channel. I think in his mind he really was a pro landscape photographer and simply couldn't face the truth despite the numbers being right in front of him. The truth is was/is successful because he was/is a good you tube personality not because of his photography. His photography wasn't bad. It was good. But the truth is no matter how good you are, there is almost no real market for landscape photos now thanks to the internet. To make a title and video saying Lanscape photography can get you all that money, I forget the exact amount but it was enough for good upper middle class living in the U.S., is disingenuous when it all came from your youtube channel.
Ppl for some reason associate photography with tons of money. A select few can make the big bucks but the majority won’t.
This statement is everything!!!!!!!
I agree with everything you're saying. Before clicking on the video I had a hunch on what Prince was going to be discussing. I've been doing photography for about 4-5 years professionally now and I can agree with the fact that there is a disconnect in the learning community as well as content creation from previous years to now.
Also at 5:10-5:40 Prince ain't miss a beat. Joined a webinar on photography and a photographer gave like 2 nuggets of wisdom in the midst of a 2 hour webinar just to pitch a $1000+ course and homey had some mid pictures. Nah bro I'm sorry. There's a disconnect because your not genuine to be honest. Granted, everyone does need to pay bills and eat so I understand to a degree.
Like you said, the issue is that the people offering these services aren’t really that good and haven’t really made money from photography. That’s the sad part.
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Capitalism and consumerism
I have followed several experienced wedding photographers for their how-to and behind-the-scenes videos, and I discovered a lot of them publish paid ads disguised as videos with tips. You can get useful information on social media, but it's important to do your own research when it comes to certain products and services
Most of the time you won’t know about wedding photography until you do it. Lots of people do bridal shots but that’s fake posed photos. There is a difference between doing it with the pressure on in real time
@@Chris-ey7zy Thanks! This makes sense
these thing of Photography used to attack me each and every day during my 9-5 working shift job i even lose focus once i watched youtube photography videos from other content creators,yes i wanted to do photography in my early school grade it was my dream,i decided to quit my 9-5 job i was earning much salary a month than the money that i'm earning through photography and i withdraw all my provident funds and purchase all photography gear that i wanted for a professional photographer,but yoh peoples dont want to pay i end up doing these with a cheap price,i wish all clients can understand how expensive is a photography equipments,yoh but 9-5 job comes with lot of stress because sometimes it's nice sometimes comes with lot of pressure from bosses,i will rather be my own boss than 9-5 job
It's good to love and have a passion for what you do, and absolutely incredible when you're able to make money from it. But i think the problem now is that its the other way around Money>Passion, and that just ruins everything.
Let's not even talk about how it's "likes" and "engagement" over creativity and true artistry.
Anyway what do i know 😂😂😂
It has ruined photographer I do it for the love I don’t make any money on it. I don’t show it to anyone I just do it for myself. I really don’t care about social media. It’s jus noise,
Man it's crazy out here. Our guys are just finding ways to milk the system. Now everyone is doing master class after master class. You register to join and it's the same old thing you know. Nothing new. Sad but we move
real rapp broo it aint fun nomore
The Soul is gone from many platforms/genres... ...music..photography..sports...politics......etc🤕
If gear reviews were simply informative, they'd be beneficial. But they have become something else. I have no problem with people making an honest buck, but I do have an issue with people shilling for products and pretending to be unbiased.
One of the reasons why till today I’ve not shot the course I created. Even though I know it’s going help a lot of people I still feel like a capitalist douche charging people to learn something that’s so simple to me. I will eventually make the course though cause can’t let all I know die with me.
There’s nothing wrong with creating a course tbh. I’ve bought a few and I have a video coming up about this. As long as the course is teaching photographer or videography then it’s great! My problem is when the course is selling a lie
This video in itself, is exactly what you’re taking about.
I hate these videos too.
Click bait.
I automatically was offended, but then I realized you’re absolutely correct. Most of these Contin creators no longer do photography. We’re never really dead. They are not working photographers. And the ones that shoot. The ladies are shooting them for free also so they’re not really working photographers either. I actually work as a photographer and I would say it sucks. But I’m not a scam!
I appreciate you watching the video. You know the title was just me sharing my thoughts on how people are now turning the business into a scam but I appreciate everyday working photographers. You guys are the people keeping it real
I blame especially those who sell those courses. They push people who are lost to grab a camera and learn how to market. Question is what are you marketing ? Whats the actual skill? This has caused a serious issue where photographers cant be trusted anymore because the client in the past had horrible experience with someone who did an amazing job marketing themselves but couldn't deliver. My take
I block any new creator that doesn't have at least half a decade of photography content out there before putting up a channel.
How do you block? I don't even see a block option on my youtube feeds. I really need to sanitize it lol.
It’s okay to let people grow, and give them the chance to start from somewhere too❤️
I don't think it has ruined photography, people who really love it will do it.
I guess people might have also run out of video ideas, what to teach, there is just so much you can teach. But not much new lenses released, not much new gear now.
But if people got gear that is not the norm, why not review it.
When I said ruined photography, it’s just a way of saying things have really changed from what it used to be but I understand and agree with you that the people who love it will do it regardless
Thanks for the comment
Gear reviews generate views which generate dollars. The market is over saturated & then you have the vlogers who make vids because they got a couple of correctly exposed photos & think they are creative enough to do so. Not just photography & not just video. I see some other subjects popular (were) &writing articles & you can tell they don't have the experience & most likely read a book on it & then wrote an article. And it is obvious the editor hasn't a clue or nothing better & has a deadline to meet. These mags are going out of bizz or are gone as the original talent that made them are retired or passed on. It is not just the digital thing. You Tube is a marketing tool & probably will be well into the future.
PS; I stopped watching at 2:20 while reading some of the comments while listening & based my comment on that. Happy shooting!
Thank you for the comment. I really appreciate you taking your time to write one. UA-cam is definitely a marketing tool and I also use it as that to be honest. The market is also saturated but I can’t really blame these guys because that’s what’s selling at the moment.
I kinda fell off from photography videos. Blogs imply that the audience cares that we dropped our subway sandwich,gear reviews take too long to get to the point (with no proof of concept), bts is usually an underproducted 15min of a model giggling, and educational videos have been saying the same thing for 20 years (since the core of photography hasnt really change much). But if all these categories merge into one 10min video, "Priceless"🙌🏾 The problem is it would be too hard to keep up with a posting schedule with so many dynamics in one video.
This comment actually says it all and like you said, the core of photography has not changed in 20 years. Thanks for the comment
@PrinceMeyson also I think the community needs more head to head competition videos of photographers with different styles/gear shooting the same model. Or maybe natural light or theme based challenges that viewers and creators can join in on.
I always love to watch bts a lot
Content creators ruined IG. Photographers and videographers suffered. As long as you put out entertaining and trendy videos, you get views. Try to show off your work, you get nothing.
A LOT of content creators have little to no talent with photography or videography. They just have good gear.
You see that’s my problem. I’ve actually paid for courses from professionals and I learnt a thing or two which is great! But if you do not have anything to show and you are only selling get rich quick courses then it’s really sad. And like you said, a lot of them aren’t talented but hey…
I actually feel awkward when I get money for video/photo work. I don’t mind but I rather just do it
Creating photos should come from the soul and like you said, it’s amazing getting paid for what you do but it’s better when you love it
You are 100% right most of these photographers on here are garbage. Their content is boring and half the time they don't even know how to use their own gear
Everytime I see “Paid Promotion” I just skip the video.
Photography is a not a scam. But using social media to promote products which are bypassing the standards which people have learned through the years by replacing it with AI/computational autonomy and calling it the future. AI generative images are cool but it is killing the real photography. Me personally I just want to do it as a hobby and only the financial gain will be only to cover any necessary expenses.
Product reviews are sometimes necessary for people to evaluate new technology or software advantages however you shouldn't be looking to use a highly advanced camera if your core skills are using a Samsung or iPhone. At least try to learn the basics and practice what you can before making large leaps. So whilst the world has a small proportion of Hasselblad/Leica/Phase One users it is curiousity which drives people to watch these videos.
I think for the moment, Fujifilm and Sony cameras are more accessible than the above makes. Canon and Nikon too.
Back in the day, it was all BTS, and FFA (if you know what that means). Now, it's just gear reviews. No one cares about the "art"... I agree how social media has changed photography, but its changed everything
Very true, it’s changed everything
Tbh it’s really not.
Okay
Hi, I try to keep talking about the art and craft of photography. To make a living of it is a completely other thing, somebody else should teach.
What the hell is this NEW TREND of "holding" the mic???? I see all these wanna-be influencers doing it.... WHY???
This wanna be influencer is doing it because the sound in my house isn’t great and as a wanna be influencer I cannot afford to sound proof it yet lol
You can always use a Lavalier mic clipped to your shirt.
@@JohnMacLeanPhotographythanks for the comment
Interesting. A Nigerian made a video about scamming.
Interesting. A comment perpetuating a stereotype.
@@JohnMacLeanPhotography not at all. it was ironic. however, you can not prove me wrong. well, at least some african can coexist without tribal squabbles....
@@castieldiallo2945 meh, not worth the effort as it will just land on deaf ears.
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Sorry I have to disagree with this view. I remember when I started photography all I did was learn learn and learn, everyday. I would go outdoors shoot for hours together and since then to date I have been extremely passionate about it. Even today when I see someone's work inspiring me, I keep thinking and experimenting on how to achieve that. Simply put I love photography and have been doing it for almost 14 years now. But unfortunately though I am pretty decent at my craft, I am struggling to make money. I was in one or the other jobs as a photographer until few years ago, but since I started freelancing it's been a very challenging ride, to the extent that now I dont know if I will ever make it. So I really envy those who can make money out of it which is what is more important than the art itself. What is the point if you are really good at something and cant make money? I think thats why this trend started where people talk about how to make money which is totally justified. I would rather make good amount of money than wasting time perfecting the craft. If you can make money without being quote and quote great at your craft, then why not?
Stupid title. Just came here to say that.
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No. You wouldn't make content without money. Because you couldn't.
I did for years when I started. Now it’s harder but for the most part I still don’t make a lot of money from creating content
Shiiiiii….i feel you on that. Except for me, it was cinematography. That’s why I stopped making how to light and how to shoot indie films. I haven’t posted in over a year. I thought I was the only one that noticed it. Then the iPhone came and no one cares now how to light. Just buy a cell phone gimbal, and you’re a cinematographer . 🙄 Everyone is just looking for that get rich quick scheme. I agree with you 100%. Now, I just focus on making my indie films. 🤷🏾♂️ F wasting my time trying to teach people that don’t care about the craft.