It's great to see Nikon get it right. It's easy to overlook that the actual camera body will end up being less than a quarter of the investment once you've bought your way into the trinity of lenses and beyond. As someone who has been slowly buying Z mount lenses for the Z7 these past few years, the Z9 is now a real no-brainer to cap off an amazing collection. Now if Nikon could get enough shipments out and into the hands of us mere mortals who are patiently waiting and dreaming...
I got it January only because I ordered it the second it was available online. Coming from the D850, it has been worth it even though I am just an amateur. All my F mount lenses work better on this camera than on my D850.
Nikon not only gets it right…they do it right! This is why so many faithful like myself keep shooting Nikon despite the “pressure” to switch. I have always had faith in Nikon and they have always been my preferred system. I did switch to Canon twice in the past 25 years. That was fine, Canon is great. But I never, ever even for a second was considering Sony. I don’t hate Sony. They paved the way, period. Nikon did what they did with the Z9 thanks to Sony. Canon missed the boat and the R3 is a step behind. It has its little eye-AF but it is not comparable to the Sony A1 or Z9. So I agree with you and I am so happy for Nikon. If I had not just bought a D6 and if I didn’t have a D850 with grip, I would I buy a Z9. I ordered one and would’ve been a first to get one. I’m an NPS member and photojournalist so it would’ve been easy to get one. I’m still going to get one. I just am completely satisfied with my current gear and I love my current setup of lenses and cameras. Plus the D5/D6 sensor still has an advantage in low light or “high ISO!” It’s about a 2/3rds stop advantage in low light. Even when you downsize a Z9 file to 20mp, the D6 still has a clear and measurable advantage. For what I do that really comes in handy. But the Z9 is in for a bright future and is already producing world class images at major events. Nikon just does things the right way. The ergonomics and process with Nikon just make more sense than the other brands.
@@patricksmith2553 I never felt any pressure to switch - Sony is for point 'n shooters coming from the smartphone. In my shooting style Nikon was always right. Having said that - I use Sony e-mount since 2015. Initially for manual focus lenses only. For tricky AF situations - dark animal eyes on dark für - even the A6100 is outperforming anything else. For carefully framed work Sony is a pain
I agree sony has very good AF but in menu ergonomics and form factor and user interface aspects sony is the worst of the lot Only part where sony camera like a1 and a9 and other models is that it has very good AF
Sony AF is overrated. Currently, renting a Sony a7 iv. I will play with settings further see if I can the hit rate up. I've also rented a z6 ii and r6. R6 is better, then a7iv is slightly better than the z6ii.
😂…you wanna go to war with them Northrups. I think its high time u forgave them Ike. Come on! Tony almost kissing the camera ass already. I think he know he did too much when he ddnt get any shoutout from Nikon on the Z9. So photomeike u got to lay down your sword now and have some kumbaya dance and a drink 🍺 with the Northups.
@@alphaxfang As sceptical as I am about Northrup reviews, these 10 “niche” things are not niche to pros. They are expected and make working with the camera so much better. We know all the cameras can take great images. But these others things have become much more important.
Seriously, how come Nikon has ISO 64 natively for so many years and no other brand has adopted this? Is this the best kept secret ever, or what? That could be a video on its own!
Hey Tony, video specs should have been on your list: -- 8k60 (coming) -- oversampled 4kHQ up to 30p -- 4k120p with 2.3 crop!!! -- prores/prores raw internal and long record times -- killer specs!
Finally- I’m in zero rush to “upgrade” from my D800, but it’s great to see Nikon is finally making next gen cameras that would be true worthy upgrades for me, personally.
But I remember listening to various people talk about it at the launch. The attention Nikon put into the user experience really blew me away. There are many more than just these 10 things.
@Photo Bunny - I run and gun with an A1 with a 600f4 + 1.4x TC. I live in the Chicagoland area where temperature can be just as extreme at times, and I've not experienced what you've outlined above. Maybe you're just not using the A1 the right way? ;) Btw, ,I still shoot Nikon (since the F + D models) and wouldn't mind getting the Z9 (for kicks).
I wish I was rich and not so deeply invested in Canon's RF ecosystem. I'd buy the Z9 just so I could use their 400mm f2.8 TC VR S. Adding that TC was just such a game changing move for wildlife photography.
As a Nikon shooter, I’m surprised Canon hasn’t released its R1 yet, and it looks like it will be a while before it does. But I’m sure it will be very good when it does.
I think those Canons are pretty amazing right now, so I dont think you're really missing out in a serious way, and I say that as a long term Nikon shooter. That 400mm does sound next-level though,. but it costs about the same as a new car.
@wangpie92 Sony and Canon hold almost all of the market sales…now that Nikon is starting to catch up they might get some market share back but the need to actually fill orders to do that 😯
I love my Sony A1 with the 35-150. I also have the 150-600 and a couple others. Sony a1 i think will be the top camera for a while still. I think it is so advanced that there's no need to upgrade. If your pictures are not turning out with either camera it's the photographers error. I think the Sony is a little power house and if you need that extra grip you can put it on. You don't have to carry that extra weight especially when your hiking taking pics of wildlife and you have one of those huge lenses to capture your subjects. And don't forget Sony makes sensors for most of these cameras. As for working in the dark. It's called muscle memory. It's not hard to memorize the buttons. Plus all the third-party lenses. I just think people like to jump on the next new not necessarily the best thing. No loyalty imo.
Great info. I sincerely hope that you are right that many of the Z9 features will eventually by migrated to more affordable Nikons geared for those of us who can’t afford the top of their line. In the meantime I’ll stay happy with my D500! Thanks!
I'm a Sony shooter. The CF Express Type A cards suck, period! Half the speed of the type B cards! Double the price of the type B cards and only 160GB max size!
If you are a video shooter, 160GB with the new specs is not doable. Clearly the A1 is a brilliant camera. But that one thing would rule the A1 out for me.
No one I know who isn’t a camera reviewer would ever shift systems more than once every ten years regardless of how amazing the tech that came out was. Hell a lot of the pros i know are still using DSLRs from ten years ago for their pro work
Nikon needs to listen to us customers,, please update the menu in the camera , update the raw to jpeg export technique and make lightweight cameras please bring us titanium based cameras and lightweight cameras ..
Four years ago, Tony, you and Chelsea were the first two Youtbe photography gurus I watched and I purchased my Nikon 7200. When the mirrorless cameras began hitting the market. Ifollowed your advice or should I say, Chelsea. I waited, and practice with D7200 for the past several years. Uniquely, I paid a little over $4000.00 for a laptop computer and I’m happy I waited, because I will purchase the Nikon Z9 for my astro, landscape, and wildlife photography. Thanks again for the advice. You two take care and stay safe.
Great to see you focus on positive things. Personally I've been more than happy to wait for Nikon to catch up, knowing that in time they will deliver, if I have a bit of patience. Also knowing that my old D4 is still an amazing piece of technology capable of capturing incredible images, even though compared with the newer ones, it doesn't seem that impressive.
You forget 1 thing very important. The Z9 is twice as large as the Sony A1. So of course, there is more room to pack in extra stuff. And 1 more thing, it came out almost a year after Sony A1, so they have all the time to study and improve.
I love my Sony A1 with the 35-150. I also have the 150-600 and a couple others. Sony a1 i think will be the top camera for a while still. I think it is so advanced that there's no need to upgrade. If your pictures are not turning out with either camera it's the photographers error. I think the Sony is a little power house and if you need that extra grip you can put it on. You don't have to carry that extra weight especially when your hiking taking pics of wildlife and you have one of those huge lenses to capture your subjects. And don't forget Sony makes sensors for most of these cameras. As for working in the dark. It's called muscle memory. It's not hard to memorize the buttons. Plus all the third-party lenses. I just think people like to jump on the next new not necessarily the best thing. No loyalty imo.
As a D750 owner, this video makes me very happy. I probably won't buy the Z9, but there's a very strong chance I'd buy the next Z7 model. I'm just waiting for them to update their 24mm PC lens.
It will be interesting what the next models have. The Z6 has better low light performance than the Z7. But you need at least 39mp for 8k video. Even many say you don’t need 8k video, trust me. When will be using it for digital cropping, panning and zooming in post.
Im also a D750 owner waiting patiently for a Nikon mirrorless to upgrade to. Hopefully a Z6 III with Z9 AF will be announced soon. Im glad I didn't jump in on the MK 1 and MK 2, they never excited me at all. I was also worried the company may not make it long term. I still believe the future could be rocky if they don't get a camera out that can compete with the R6/A74.
Glad to see Nikon getting some love again. I've been faithful to Nikon for six years, and was thinking hard about upgrading to Z7 II when I came across a super deal on a D850. It's been several months now with no regrets! Yeah, it's a dinosaur, but still world-class. I'm thrilled with the photos I'm getting. The Z9 is amazing, but it'll be a while before I go mirrorless.
You should fill ZERO embarrassment about rocking a fantastic Nikon D850 😁. That camera remains a beast and the king of DSLR land, the files are gorgeous!🔥Many of us mere financial mortals are not ready to take that costly mirrorless leap yet, especially for those that the Nikon DSLR’s are still more than enough gear. I look forward to Z9 technology trickling down, but in the meantime I am a happy Nikon DSLR girl.
Just before Christmas (2021) I sold my Nikon Z6 and my Nikon Z glass and switched to the Sony A7 IV and a smaller number of Sony lenses... The Sony autofocus is spot on, that was my major reason for switching. But after a month, I still don't have that warm feeling about my camera system that I had with Nikon... I feel like the ISO noise is noticeable higher than I remember with my Z6. I'm wondering if I made a several thousand dollar mistake and should have hung on with my Nikon Z glass a little longer and waited for the Z9 tech to filter down to to the Z6/Z7 mark III's. Does anyone else feel like the Sony A7 IV has unacceptable noise at 2500 ISO and up?
I have been thru this and it was crazy. Loved my Z6 and even got the z7ii. I went for shoot where the Autofocus really frustrated me. Many shots I thought i got were soft or missed focus when I reviewed it. I sold off all my Nikon gear and lenses and bought into Canon R5. Great camera but every time I saw pictures I took with my Nikon, I felt like crying. I missed the colors and feel. The pictures just ddnt look ‘alright ‘ like i was used to with Nikon. And more than anything, the RF glasses were killing my wallet! So many good lenses that I couldn’t afford and I found myself putting cheap glasses on the really good R5. I sold all the RF system again after 6months and I am back with Nikon z6ii now. I got some of the best Nikon lenses both Z and F just at the fraction of what the RF was costing me . Dont get me wrong, I lost a lot of money in the sales and trades but I love my pictures more now. I am happy to wait for the next z6iii or z7iii because I know they will have features from the z9. You will have to settle for what is most important to you and your work. Ill say give it a few more months and see if you come around to love working with the Sony. Its a really good system and all but its no Nikon.
as a Sony user I would particularly like the tilting screen and backlit buttons. Most of the other stuff I can live without. The cheaper price would be appreciated though.
The A1 is now a year old and still has better auto focus, the next Sony update will. change minds about which camera is the ultimate, plus the lens line up is better on the Sony.
it's so appalling when I hear about Sony's lens line up compared to canon and nikon. Sounds like the ops has no ideas of other systems and kinda parrots what others say ignorantly. Don't forget tilt shift lenses, vintage, and an exotic number of long lenses from canon and nikon.
A Nikon spokesman said the Z9 is in such high demand, that they will not have enough production capacity at their current factory in Thailand to do much of anything else this year. There are lenses coming, like the 85 f1.2 and 800 f8, but no new cameras are planned for 2022. The Z6 II and Z7 II will get firmware updates to bring better AF and EVF improvements. Today Nikon is a much smaller company and their current camera lines, especially the highly demanded Z9, will keep them busy for a few years.
Hi Tony, My greatest enemy is dust... how about that on or in the Z9? My Nikons attrack dust like a vacum cleaner... I really would like to swith to the Z9, but how about tracking and locking to fast moving objects, like sport cars, military jets? Thank You for your answer! Greetings from Belgium Lambert
The 120fps stills mode in the Z9 is absolutely not 4K video written as stills as stated by the presenter. Its proper 11MP images taken at high speed which are actually higher resolution than 4K.
I happened to buy into canon shortly before the D850 was released. If I had waited, that would’ve been my camera system and I would be saving up for this camera. Well done, Nikon. The Z9 is a beautiful machine.
For flying birds 30 FPS raw is a big deal. I shoot most sports in JPG, but if it's say motocross where the sun might be in the shot, raw can help that.
@@TonyAndChelsea I saw a demo where the A1 shot 30 FPS for 4-5 seconds then slowed up vs the Z9 shooting 20 FPS sustained for 15 seconds can you verify this. Also you cant use the tracking on the A1 to achieve 30 FPS right?
Thanks for this video! Not only is it good to see Nikon's comeback, it's also great to get information about the usability of different cameras rather than a pure comparison of their spec sheets. In the end, not many people will shoot scenarios where you need 120 rather than 20 frames per second. Details like the illuminated buttons might make a difference though.
I've never left Nikon and probably never will. I love their cameras! Many jumped ship because they followed the hype or wanted something they thought was the latest and greatest. Patience is a virtue. In my humble opinion, Nikon never stumbled, but was planning something great! Nikon!
Really hope Fujifilm takes a hint from Nikon Z9 and bring the tilting screen back to X-T5. Flippy screen annoys me so much. It interferes with the cables too much and get bumped all the time when flipped out. If I want to do video, I will attach an external monitor. Influencers can buy X-S10 now.
I just love my copy of the Z9, my last flagship was the D4s then the D850 suite my purposes better. But now, smoke it, the Z9 is like 3 in 1, it has the speed from the D6, the details from 850 and the dark ability from the Z6. The story has just begun two weeks ago and I love every step of it.
I don't think they were ever gone..People just think a camera should do everything for them..with an EVF a new shooter will never learn how to expose properly...I'm still happy with the D500 for bif
3:00 of course if you missed the right moment due to full card it is your fault. You ALWAYS see the number of remaining shots, so if its that extreme just swap at 400pics left.
You can never predict when the greatest moment is going to happen. If I miss the shot because I'm changing memory cards, but another manufacturer makes it possible for me to never change memory cards, how is that my fault? Regardless of whether a perfect human could workaround a problem, I'm not a perfect human. Photography takes total concentration and it's the job of the camera to do as much as possible to reduce the photographer's cognitive load. A wildlife or sports photographer is thinking about so many non-camera related factors that they shouldn't also have to plan the right time to stop shooting and replace a memory card.
Trying to make a decision between getting D850 or Z9. I do mostly landscape, time lapse, and night sky photoshoot, but been thinking about doing more 8k 60fps video in the future, got a Sony Xperia 1 iii for mobile photoshoot. Any ideas?
Excellent review! I've been shooting Nikon since film days. In fact, I was able to snag one of the last film cameras Nikon made, the fm3a, which I love and still use. Film is still fantastic.
Interesting video, and funny how it highlights points that have a common factor, usability..... Performance wise there isn’t much difference between the Z9 and the A1, however if undoubtedly the A1 is the camera to have, the Z9 is the one to use; usability, durability and reliability have always been key factors in professional photography, it took Sony a decade to produce a product that is almost usable, whilst it took Canon and Nikon 4 years to be on par with Sony on features and leaps and bounds ahead in usability, they have been concentrating on it for the past 40 years, they have had cameras in war zones, in hostile environments, in the hands of photographers working under all sorts of pressures, an invaluable feedback for deciding what features to prioritise and how to prioritise them. 120 FPS at 11MB sounds like a gimmick, however for a photojournalist, sideline sport photographer, with built in WiFi can make the difference between selling or not the image to the press agencies, a file that is instantly available and way more than good enough for printing. Illuminated buttons have been around for at least 5 years, and illuminated screens for almost 20, why? Because they are extremely useful. Canon and Nikon are protecting the sensor from dust simply because it’s a pain to cleaning them. I love what Sony has done to photography by creating a thunderstorm in the industry, the outsider that has the opportunity and bravery to think outside the box, creating a new and improved market, a market that otherwise was condemned by its own success, 5 to 10 years ago the DSLRs reached the pinnacle point for its technology, its maximum performance. Whilst in terms of image quality and FPS we are still in the field of diminished returns, IQ will need the development of a new technology and FPS have reached a moving picture level, AF technology has benefited enormously from the mirrorless era. There isn’t a noticeable difference in IQ between DSLR and mirrorless, FPS is better in latter but definitely not a day vs night situation, AF on the contrary is a completely different ballgame. The A1, Z9, R3 and whatever R1 will be, are tools for specific jobs and aimed to specific professionals, unless someone can take advantage and benefit from the extreme features their are just a fancy, a A7R3 or 4, a Z7ll or even D850, a R5 or 5DlV, just to mention a few, will do the same job for most people in most situations, sometimes even doing a better job.
@@andrewmason8691 thanks! Surely I am not the only one outside the UA-cam/social media hype, that doesn’t rely on sponsors, ads, and affiliates to generate income having this kind of views... on the other hand I earned my firs few bucks taking pictures 25 odd years ago after having messed about with cameras for almost 15; I soon realised that I had to be in the right place at the right time, I had to know how to use the equipment at its best, I had to know how to translate a concept into reality, and more importantly that it made almost no difference what equipment I was using as long as it was decent.
@@TonyAndChelsea The dust cover is more sturdy than mechanical shutters, which are delicate and easy to damage. Having a dedicated dust cover means you don't get dust on your sensor when you change lenses as it can be closed when you remove the lenses. Do your other other mirrorless cameras close their shutters over when you change lenses?
@@TonyAndChelsea Do you realise that sometimes of the "dust" is occasionally tiny debris off the actual shutter? Not having a shutter should decrease the times you need to clean the sensor which is a positive. Also the dust cover is instant and probably much more effective in protecting the sensor. I guess time will tell.
The return answer from Tony and Chelsea was very far off the mark. The Nikon Z 9 sensor shield is SO GOOD it will change cameras going forward. Christopher Sal is RIGHT! I bought the Z 9 for as much that reason is any after the announcement. IT WILL hopefully end up on a D500 mirrorless update.....DX is a big part of Nikon sales and the camera companies who drop APS-C cameras will suffer losses! I use FX and DX a LOT. I also would point out smartphones don't get the dust on the sensor problems that plague cameras. IF they did, an iPhone would be far less popular than it is!
@@TheTigers00001 YOU are right here. The sensor shield of the Z 9 is an advancement of GREAT value. It will be copied on MANY cameras going forward. Smartphones which take MOST of the photos today would be scrap soon if they had that dust on the sensor problem.
I sold my Z7 and Z7II to buy an A1 and now the A7 IV as my second body. I love these cameras, and moreover, I LOVE the Sony lens selection. But I miss the top display, and Nikon's colors. The "Nikon" feel is something I wish I still had. The Z9 announcement came about two months after I switched. Now, I didn't switch because of the tech. I switched because Nikon pissed me off in a series of bad customer service experiences. So, I sold everything of the brand and bought a rather awesome and extensive Sony kit. I find myself thinking about moving back, and who knows... maybe I will in the next year or two, especially when Nikon drops more of their big telephotos.
I start with Nikon years ago and now I own a lot of Sony gear. The Z9 is an amazing camera but at the end for me the lens collection is very important. And what Sony did in the last years are stunning. You date the body but you marry the lens 😉I will not switch back from Sony but competition is good for us as a customer.
The lighted buttons are the deal maker. What a terrific idea. Would be nice if Nikon could offer different colors, like give an option of using a yellow, green, or white light. One rant is insects will immediately fly to the light, so a yellow insect repellent light would have been wonderful.
Hi Tony, there are more and more features of Z9 that better than A1 such as instant start up, brightest viewfinder, real no skip frame when continuously shooting, battery life, real tougher pro body, more than 2 hours 8k shooting and etc. You should really do proper review and comparison instead of skipping out all the advantages of Z9 over A1. Please do the review professionally.
Glad you like it. Nikon d300s user here. About to Make a jump to z6? Z6ii or something they haven’t released yet? Should I wait or get a z6 march 2022? Decisions decisions.
The Z 6 II might be what you should upgrade to. My D 300 sits on a shelf. Took some great photos, but cameras have vastly improved! Hell a D7500 will blow the doors off a D300S.
When the next top level Nikon is released, the Z9 will flood the used market and regular people will find it more affordable. I'm usually two steps behind the newest model.
I just bought a D850, will probably use that for a couple of years before switching to mirrorless. At the moment everything is more expensive with mirrorless.
Not everything if you look at the bigger picture. The 24-70F4S used open-box is $450 and outperforms the 24-70 f-mount 2.8 glass. The two compact primes are cheaper than f-mount 1.8G's, half the size, and match their performance. The 1.8S primes outperform 1.4G primes that are larger, heavier, and more expensive. I need fewer lenses with the z-mount than f-mount. You get more for your dollar. They also aren't depreciating like f-mount gear will. ;)
Thank You for the review on the Z-9. My current camera is a D810 mostly using a AF-S😂 NIKOR 28-300mm😂 1:3.5-5.6 G lens. I have really enjoyed the setup. I am looking for a Nikon upgrade with a stronger telephoto lense. The Z9 would be great but a bit pricy…do you have an suggestions? I do general photography and wild life. I have really enjoyed your presentations
I wish Nikon would hurry up with a native z mount super telephoto... something to compete with the Sony 200-600. I know the 800 f6.3 prime was announced but that's got to be at least a $12k lens, right?
No, I don't think this will be the case. I think the 800mm f/6.3 will be a PF lens and as such it should be remarkably small (for an 800mm) and also much less $ than a normal 800mm f/5.6. As an example, the current Nikon 500mm f/4 AF-S Nikkor FL ED VR is going for $10,296.95 on Adorama while the the Nikon 500mm f/5.6 E PF ED VR lens is going for $3,596.95 on the same site. You can see that the PF lens going for about 35% of the price of the 'big boy'. It is a stop slower, but at the same time it is much smaller and lighter and the IQ is comparable - so it is an incredible value for the money. The current Nikon 800mm AF-S Nikkor f/5.6 E FL ED VR lens with the built in 1.4 Teleconverter is going for $16,296.95. Assuming the new 800mm lens is a PF version, and if we apply the same roughly 35% of the price, then the 800mm 6.3 S line lens could be as little as $5,700. I am thinking that it will be a PF as its silhouette on the Nikon lens roadmap is clearly smaller than the upcoming 600mm - by this I infer that it must be a PF or some other tech that makes the lens smaller and lighter at the expense of some speed. Still there is no guarantee that it will be 35% of the price just because the 500 PF is 35% of the full 500mm's price but this should be a reasonable gauge. Also, the 800mm f/5.6 has a built in teleconverter making it an even more expensive lens, the 800 6.3 S will most certainly not have this feature, so perhaps it will be a little less than $5,700. Still, at $5,700 it is not cheap, but this becomes in the realm of affordability for serious hobbyists, whereas $16k is probably out of the question at any point. Also, $5,700 puts it at the same approximate price point as the 200mm f/2 - Nikon's premier portrait lens and although expensive many portrait and wedding photographers did stretch to get it. Still, the 500 PF is a full stop slower than the normal 500, so it is strange that this potential 800 PF would only be 1/3 of a stop slower than the big boy - that seems almost too good - like why would anyone pay the extra 11K for a third of a stop - but it does have the teleconverter so who knows. Either way, the fact that the 800mm is smaller than the upcoming 600mm and the fact that they definitely announced that it is a f/6.3 indicates that this is intended to be a PF type of lens (by this I mean a smaller and lighter and presumably more affordable version of the lens - not necessarily PF tech - IDK). Either way, I think it is safe to say that it will not exceed $6000 and so it will be affordable to those that really, really want it and can save up a little.
@@baronsilverton6504 Hmm perhaps it does seem like it will be a PF lens here's the press release:. "The NIKKOR Z 800mm f/6.3 VR S is an S-Line* lens, delivering powerful rendering with outstanding resolution while thoroughly reducing color bleeding. By adopting a PF (Phase Fresnel) lens for the first time in a NIKKOR Z model, a compact and lightweight body is realized, making it highly portable despite being a super-telephoto lens. With its high rendering performance and superb mobility, this lens will reliably support the imaging expression of many photographers ranging from advanced amateurs to professionals." I hope its more sub $6k that would be a nice surprise
@@jasond1500 Great - there is confirmation of what seemed very likely anyway just by looking at the silhouette and size of the lens. WIth this knowledge, I would guess that it should be under $6k - I think this is the breaking point number where many advanced hobbyists will stretch to get a lens. Anything above this and certainly anything that is 5 digits (10k and more) are pretty much off the table for all but agencies and very specific and specialized pros that work in niche fields. Maybe they will surprise us an keep it below $5k but I kind of doubt this, but as long as it is less than $6k my guess is that it will sell very well indeed.
I shoot Canon but I'm glad to see Nikon finally get serious with modernity, if only at the pro end. Hopefully the consumer and prosumer market will see the trickle down (God, I hate that phrase) before too long.
I've stuck with Nikon since 1985 when I bought my first 35mm SLR camera by them. As a professional wedding photographer, I always looked at Nikon's final RAW image itself, which tends to favour more naturalistic results that you might want to tweak later yourself to add a bit of added visual dynamism and punch. So the gimmicks and features that all the other major brands were bringing out never got close to out-weighing this and never once did I ever think of jumping ship. I felt, like Tony and Chelsea that the D850 was and still is the best DSLR camera ever made. And now that my z9 has finally arrived, I can honestly say that they have done it again! My 37 years of loyalty, paid back 100-fold with both the best ever DSLR and now an absolute masterpiece in the mirrorless AND SHUTTERLESS z9.
Speaking of releases. Based on your experience, when do you think the next gen z6/7iii or whatever they want to call it might be coming out? I am looking to upgrade from the 1st z7, but dont need the z9 and would hate to buy a z7ii and 3 to 5 months later the z7iii drops.
Tony making amends with Nikon. There was a reason why he was one of the last YT influencers to receive the Z9. 🤷🏻♂️Chelsea make a comment on a previous vlog about burning enough bridges, hope this resolves things! Ordered my Z9 on 10/28, and waiting to put to use with my 11 Z lenses. Currently using the Z6II and the Zfc. In the glass case is my dads Nikon SP rangefinder, F, F100, and my Nikon Coolpix 990, D300 and D500. Loyalty is a virtue.
I’m amazed at how the so-called camera testers on youtube and on the web reviews cameras. . Sony A1 and Canon R3 are raised to the skies and that they can run 30 fps RAW according to spec. Both cameras are quite limited with most parameters to reach 30 fps, and the Sony A1 reaches just under 20 fps in normal use. But what I am amazed of that no one mentions. The image quality on Sony and Canon at higher fps is rather limited. When you select eshutter in the “Studio scene” on dpreview, both cameras are a disaster in DR and NOISE. To get most out of Sony and Canon you have to run them with mechanical shutter. Sony A1 can handle 10 fps and Canon 12 fps with mechanical shutter. Sony will also be limited to 12 bits in "30 fps". Nikon Z9 always runs constantly 20 fps, with full quality, DR and Noise levels regardless of settings and even with old F glasses. No limits! It is quite a challenge to have a fast readout combined with high image quality. That Z9 can deliver D850 image quality with a 1/270 readout speed is sensational! Canon R3 have 1/180 at 24 MP with limited image quality at top speed. To get full quality out of R3 you are limited to 12 fps. Sony A1 have 1/250 at 50 MP with limited image quality at top speed. To get full quality out of A1 you are limited to 10 fps. I’m starting to doubt that Canon have the ability in the near future to deliver a R1 that can get close to the resolution and speed of the Z9. Sony and Canon is not there yet!
Nothing new here. For years, Canon and others have been first out of the gate with features, (usually awkwardly implemented) and then Nikon comes out later with better integrated, more thoughtful implementations of those features.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Nikon. What we have is everyone that has their own opinion about what "they" want. You and Chelsea have to admit you have been all over the map over the last 3 years. The D850 was magnificent camera. For a Digital Camera, you got it all in one package. But camera bodies change every 2 years like clockwork, and there will be something new in the next 24 months. I admit, I was Nikon until 2011, after a 56-year relationship with Nikon. I moved to another platform that met "my" needs, and I have not moved since. What I have discovered through all of this, each of the cameras from Nikon, Canon, Sony, and the array of others, is that they will take absolutely beautiful and amazing photographs. It is not what feature is in each brand, it is what is in the 6"-8" behind the eyepiece. Enjoy whatever brand that does exactly what you want and need for it to do. Sorry Tony, it is not a rebuttal to your points, but more of an encouragement to everyone out there who picks the camera for them.
That would be great - a simple tap and track implementation that is sony/canon level and I'd be happy. I've a feeling the next mid market camera will also have 10 bit internal to compete with the A74 and R6.
The difference between using your smartphone for GPS is that it most likely is providing you “A-GPS” services, not just GPS. GPS is fine, but it’s slow to acquire and often won’t work in larger buildings. A-GPS uses augmentation from cellphone towers to greatly speed position acquisition and in-building performance. That’s the advantage of linking your cellphone rather than just relying on “GPS” built into the device. To Tony’s point though, Sony’s way of linking is fussy, It requires constant vigilance to make sure it’s actually working.
are you saying my Sony A7R IV that has an ISO of 64 it's not Native ? and extended , which I don't know what that means anyway! I always thought extended means going above 6400 all the up to 128,000 or 256,000
Yes, the Nikon 'comeback' with the Z9 is wonderful for us long time Nikon users. I was genuinely concerned about the company, what with their weak financials through the pandemic, and oddly un-finished Z6/Z7 (remember that bizarre Z battery grip...?). But the Z9 is right on the money, in every way, which I hope bodes well for future cameras too...
Thanks for the vid and I agree with the conclusion -- I own a Z9 and have never wanted the Sony A1. However -- I would have added the fact that the Z9 is far far far more robust than the flimsy A1. The Z9 fits perfectly in my hand and from the 600/4 - 200/2 to 105/1.4 to 40/2 it pairs perfectly with all the lenses in my collection. The FTZII is a great adapter - works perfectly with all my gold ring lenses AND 3rd party lenses like an Otus. I took the Z9 and a 70-200+TC14 to a hawk shoot on Saturday and have concluded that I obtained 5-10 times more shots than I would have done with my D6, D850 or Z7. Earlier in the week I shot Common Kingfishers diving and at 120 fps was able to secure the shot of the bill of the bird just penetrating the surface of the water -- and produce a short vid of the whole dive, catch and recover cycle using the 1.2 second burst. Yes - writing to an ultra fast 128 GB Delkin Black card was a huge help -- other than when shooting faster than 20 fps I use lossless RAW and have not needed to use any of the other smaller file options. Using the programmable buttons on the front of the camera instantly switching between focussing modes -- the Z9 has enabled me to obtain shots I could not have obtained before.
I love my Sony A1 with the 35-150. I also have the 150-600 and a couple others. Sony a1 i think will be the top camera for a while still. I think it is so advanced that there's no need to upgrade. If your pictures are not turning out with either camera it's the photographers error. I think the Sony is a little power house and if you need that extra grip you can put it on. You don't have to carry that extra weight especially when your hiking taking pics of wildlife and you have one of those huge lenses to capture your subjects. And don't forget Sony makes sensors for most of these cameras. As for working in the dark. It's called muscle memory. It's not hard to memorize the buttons. Plus all the third-party lenses. I just think people like to jump on the next new not necessarily the best thing. No loyalty imo.
I don't know if anyone else has said it yet but the real benefit here is that when one camera maker's technology leapfrogs another's it's a benefit for every photographer in the sense that that "leapfrogging" causes other manufacture's to innovate and compete which in turn trickles down to the photographers... Right now it's the Z9. Next maybe it's Canon's turn, then Sony... Wash rinse repeat. It's a great time to be a photographer.
This made my day Tony while stuck here at the airport caused flight canceling, Thank you very much, You and Chelsea are awesome friends- now time for us to go chase wildlife. Nikon had come a long way, but they finally catching up.
I started with nikon at age 15 in 2004 with my dad's old fm2. Since then I've had an f80, d80, d300, d7000, d800, df, z6 and recently due to the fm2 look a zfc (by the way tony try it with the 28mm and smallrig grip it's a different camera) and the z9 has made me excited for the next generation of z6 and z7 I assume one of them will be my next purchase
Apparently there's a depth of field issue highlighted by Hudson Henry Photography on all Nikon Z cameras including the Z9 where the depth of field does not go beyond f.5.6 on a f.2.8 lens.. Has anyone noticed this issue??
Ricci Talks of UK and Matt Irwin have addressed that. Since I NEVER buy 2.8 lens now as my 2.8 Nikon lens era was in the 1980s..... I have not experienced this problem. But that is a set up and use issue. My audience demands WIDE depth of field so I shoot at f 8 as much as possible.
I started with a D600 about 10 years ago as my first DSLR, now owning 50mm 1.4, 14-24 2.8, and 24-70 2.8... i love my camera as far for taking photos but d600 is not for recording, so i have been in the dilemma of switching brand, it would be a big investment if i do, but if this Z9 can fix my needs around the same budget I think I might be staying.
Iam NOT a switcher by the way, i stay to NIKON from my first Nikkormat, ....Question when do you compare Picture quality Z9 to Z7 II ? I heard someone told me Z7II has better Quality then Z9 !?!
A7SIII user and the I don’t understand why Sony went with the type a, when B is faster, larger, and cheaper. I think the coolest difference was the GPS. The light up buttons is cool as well, though I think I know where they all are on my camera.
My first DSLR was Nikon 12 years ago. The interface was super straight forward and colors were always great. I hope Nikon really goes all out on the photo/video hybrids going forward. They have nothing to lose.
As a sony user i feel that most normal people who made fun of canon and nikon in the past years would be right they where slow to move to a clearly better method tech. Now we are at a point that i think these same people can see that both canon and nikon are maybe not always for us but earn the respect that for example the D850 always had. For canon i feel the R5 is the one that is the new baseline and for nikon its the z9. I agree with about 4 points on this list the rest i disagree or don't care about but thats not the point here. If i would be in a nikon user this would be where i would move over from dslr to mirroless and i think the Z7II and Z9 are aimed for that.
I own many of the cameras you speculate about. But USE the Nikon Z fc and Z 50 MORE than the others. I also use an iPhone a LOT. I tested the Z 7 II and Z 7 II before I bought one some time ago, and ended up with the Z 6 II. I have used our Sony A 1 a LOT as well and really wonder if a batch of the user comments are because they bought a Chevy say it is better. The Nikon 850 is a great DSLR, the D500 we have gets FAR more use. The Sony A 1 use of the two SD cards is part of the reason I bought a Nikon Z 9. All of these use scenarios I believe comes down to this.....What counts is being at the best place at the best time with a good enough camera.......
@@davidjohnson4451 In no way trying to attack you but why put sd cards into the A1 if you need the extra speed (except for cost that we all hope comes down). The nice thing about being able to use 2 card formats in the A1 is that you can do both all video modes for example don't need express cards. So can't see how picking a Z9 because of the use of 2 sd cards is a reason i guess you mean that you find the express-a cards not fast enough ? Personally given the buffer depth and write speed i found it a pretty good balance. The A1 provides both options thats why i personally think its a good and understandable compromise and i hope the express-a finds its place in the market so price of cards come down which is at the moment its biggest downside.
@@scb2scb2 I use Express Cards type B in the Z 9 is that is all it will take. I use the cards that are in the camera when I use the Sony A 1. But I have used several different cards in the A 1. The type A cards have not really been given ratings that make me want to use them. I will say I use mostly SD card cameras for the majority of my shooting as they are a very good compromise. Last thing I need is killing ANOTHER computer with a jammed up storage from large file sizes. Cards will come down in cost, that is technology at a fast pace, but INFLATION is going to hurt us all over time.
@@davidjohnson4451 Not sure if i fully graps what you are saying but it sounds that the A1 you have access to only uses sdcards because of price/size and thats a valid point for many people but if you jump to z9 all your old cards can't be used and for video work thats kind of a loss. Not sure what you mean with size on the computer that seems to be a different issue where you prefer the z9 options over the a1 options (and thats fine). On the prices coming down on express-a cards that worries me a little if sony stays the only one that is using them so i personally hope some other brands that have smaller camera bodies like fuji might follow sony in this dual+dual card option. I can share that for me (and yes thats a personal view) sony made a compromise i can live with i have 2 express-a 160G cards and many sdcards and the A1 performs nicely in each usecase. I am also not 100% sure that sony would have been able to jam 2 express-b cards in their current body design and clearly they wanted to stay close to the current size. Anyway good luck with the Z9 its a amazing camera it would be a option for me if they also made it in the z7ii style of body i just prefer that style.
It's great to see Nikon get it right. It's easy to overlook that the actual camera body will end up being less than a quarter of the investment once you've bought your way into the trinity of lenses and beyond. As someone who has been slowly buying Z mount lenses for the Z7 these past few years, the Z9 is now a real no-brainer to cap off an amazing collection. Now if Nikon could get enough shipments out and into the hands of us mere mortals who are patiently waiting and dreaming...
I got it January only because I ordered it the second it was available online. Coming from the D850, it has been worth it even though I am just an amateur. All my F mount lenses work better on this camera than on my D850.
Nikon not only gets it right…they do it right! This is why so many faithful like myself keep shooting Nikon despite the “pressure” to switch. I have always had faith in Nikon and they have always been my preferred system. I did switch to Canon twice in the past 25 years. That was fine, Canon is great. But I never, ever even for a second was considering Sony. I don’t hate Sony. They paved the way, period. Nikon did what they did with the Z9 thanks to Sony. Canon missed the boat and the R3 is a step behind. It has its little eye-AF but it is not comparable to the Sony A1 or Z9. So I agree with you and I am so happy for Nikon. If I had not just bought a D6 and if I didn’t have a D850 with grip, I would I buy a Z9. I ordered one and would’ve been a first to get one. I’m an NPS member and photojournalist so it would’ve been easy to get one. I’m still going to get one. I just am completely satisfied with my current gear and I love my current setup of lenses and cameras. Plus the D5/D6 sensor still has an advantage in low light or “high ISO!” It’s about a 2/3rds stop advantage in low light. Even when you downsize a Z9 file to 20mp, the D6 still has a clear and measurable advantage. For what I do that really comes in handy. But the Z9 is in for a bright future and is already producing world class images at major events. Nikon just does things the right way. The ergonomics and process with Nikon just make more sense than the other brands.
@@patricksmith2553 I never felt any pressure to switch - Sony is for point 'n shooters coming from the smartphone. In my shooting style Nikon was always right.
Having said that - I use Sony e-mount since 2015. Initially for manual focus lenses only. For tricky AF situations - dark animal eyes on dark für - even the A6100 is outperforming anything else. For carefully framed work Sony is a pain
As a Sony shooter good to see Nikon is finally catching up, healthy competition is always good for customers
Stop spamming
I agree sony has very good AF but in menu ergonomics and form factor and user interface aspects sony is the worst of the lot
Only part where sony camera like a1 and a9 and other models is that it has very good AF
Catching up? It just passed anything available from Sony.
Sony AF is overrated. Currently, renting a Sony a7 iv. I will play with settings further see if I can the hit rate up. I've also rented a z6 ii and r6. R6 is better, then a7iv is slightly better than the z6ii.
@@MikeHeller no it did not get everything better, just some
Next week… “The Sony A1 is better than the Nikon Z9 in these ways” 🙄🙄🙄. The game is the game I suppose…
😂…you wanna go to war with them Northrups. I think its high time u forgave them Ike. Come on! Tony almost kissing the camera ass already. I think he know he did too much when he ddnt get any shoutout from Nikon on the Z9. So photomeike u got to lay down your sword now and have some kumbaya dance and a drink 🍺 with the Northups.
@@jj_Kamelleon The North Remembers.. ❄️❄️❄️
😂😂😂😂😂
i think he means there is 10 niche things that nikon have better than sony...
@@alphaxfang As sceptical as I am about Northrup reviews, these 10 “niche” things are not niche to pros. They are expected and make working with the camera so much better. We know all the cameras can take great images. But these others things have become much more important.
Seriously, how come Nikon has ISO 64 natively for so many years and no other brand has adopted this? Is this the best kept secret ever, or what? That could be a video on its own!
It’s also super clutch when shooting video!
I think Leica has a camera now with ISO 64.
ever heard of a camera named Pentax K1?
@@mytravellinfo No, no one else has either 😂😂😂
Canon R3 has ISO 50
So nice to hear positive posts about Nikon. Looks like they did an awesome job with this camera. I stayed with Nikon through the bad...
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Same here, I'm still happy with my D500
It’s a beautiful beautiful camera. Love it 🥰
@@berniestang2616 👍
Same here still work with my D810 , z6, z5 & waiting for z9 😍
Hey Tony, video specs should have been on your list: -- 8k60 (coming) -- oversampled 4kHQ up to 30p -- 4k120p with 2.3 crop!!! -- prores/prores raw internal and long record times -- killer specs!
Not to mention shutter shield, and no mechanical shutter which will eventually wear out when shooting 20-30 FPS.
Hail Nikon, I simply love using Nikon for everything, for me, it's Nikon or nothing.❤
Finally- I’m in zero rush to “upgrade” from my D800, but it’s great to see Nikon is finally making next gen cameras that would be true worthy upgrades for me, personally.
zero rush 😂 cool
But I remember listening to various people talk about it at the launch. The attention Nikon put into the user experience really blew me away. There are many more than just these 10 things.
Ys, so true
Ever shoot with the A1 ?
@Photo Bunny big bodied camera? You can attach a grip to the a1 and it should be the same
@Photo Bunny - I run and gun with an A1 with a 600f4 + 1.4x TC. I live in the Chicagoland area where temperature can be just as extreme at times, and I've not experienced what you've outlined above. Maybe you're just not using the A1 the right way? ;) Btw, ,I still shoot Nikon (since the F + D models) and wouldn't mind getting the Z9 (for kicks).
I wish I was rich and not so deeply invested in Canon's RF ecosystem. I'd buy the Z9 just so I could use their 400mm f2.8 TC VR S. Adding that TC was just such a game changing move for wildlife photography.
That lens looks like will be a big deal for wildlife photography.
As a Nikon shooter, I’m surprised Canon hasn’t released its R1 yet, and it looks like it will be a while before it does. But I’m sure it will be very good when it does.
I think those Canons are pretty amazing right now, so I dont think you're really missing out in a serious way, and I say that as a long term Nikon shooter. That 400mm does sound next-level though,. but it costs about the same as a new car.
@wangpie92 Sony and Canon hold almost all of the market sales…now that Nikon is starting to catch up they might get some market share back but the need to actually fill orders to do that 😯
@@chrisvig123 You give too much credit to Sony
Market share Up to 2021
Canon 47.9%
Sony 22.1%
Nikon 13.7%
Fujifilm 5.6%
Panasonic 4.4%
I'm in love with my Z9, 100-400, 500pf, and 24-120. Its just an amazing package of goodness. Thankfully I hung onto all my great Nikon Glass.
I love my Sony A1 with the 35-150. I also have the 150-600 and a couple others.
Sony a1 i think will be the top camera for a while still. I think it is so advanced that there's no need to upgrade. If your pictures are not turning out with either camera it's the photographers error. I think the Sony is a little power house and if you need that extra grip you can put it on. You don't have to carry that extra weight especially when your hiking taking pics of wildlife and you have one of those huge lenses to capture your subjects. And don't forget Sony makes sensors for most of these cameras. As for working in the dark. It's called muscle memory. It's not hard to memorize the buttons. Plus all the third-party lenses. I just think people like to jump on the next new not necessarily the best thing. No loyalty imo.
Great info. I sincerely hope that you are right that many of the Z9 features will eventually by migrated to more affordable Nikons geared for those of us who can’t afford the top of their line. In the meantime I’ll stay happy with my D500! Thanks!
It's a great time to buy cameras. Just got my R6 and am very happy.
I'm a Sony shooter. The CF Express Type A cards suck, period! Half the speed of the type B cards! Double the price of the type B cards and only 160GB max size!
If you are a video shooter, 160GB with the new specs is not doable. Clearly the A1 is a brilliant camera. But that one thing would rule the A1 out for me.
Yeah it's so weird that such an amazing camera is held back by memory card availability! WTF.
No one I know who isn’t a camera reviewer would ever shift systems more than once every ten years regardless of how amazing the tech that came out was. Hell a lot of the pros i know are still using DSLRs from ten years ago for their pro work
Yep, it's just not worth it for 99% of people.
I shoot Canon but I wager the build quality and weather-sealing of the Z9 is far more robust than the Sony A1.
Don't forget the near instantaneous start up and the shutter guard.
Nikon needs to listen to us customers,, please update the menu in the camera , update the raw to jpeg export technique and make lightweight cameras please bring us titanium based cameras and lightweight cameras ..
Four years ago, Tony, you and Chelsea were the first two Youtbe photography gurus I watched and I purchased my Nikon 7200. When the mirrorless cameras began hitting the market. Ifollowed your advice or should I say, Chelsea. I waited, and practice with D7200 for the past several years.
Uniquely, I paid a little over $4000.00 for a laptop computer and I’m happy I waited, because I will purchase the Nikon Z9 for my astro, landscape, and wildlife photography. Thanks again for the advice. You two take care and stay safe.
Tony gotta get back all your Nikon fan boys you lost in your first Z9 comment back in Oct 2021.
Great to see you focus on positive things. Personally I've been more than happy to wait for Nikon to catch up, knowing that in time they will deliver, if I have a bit of patience. Also knowing that my old D4 is still an amazing piece of technology capable of capturing incredible images, even though compared with the newer ones, it doesn't seem that impressive.
You forget 1 thing very important. The Z9 is twice as large as the Sony A1. So of course, there is more room to pack in extra stuff. And 1 more thing, it came out almost a year after Sony A1, so they have all the time to study and improve.
I love my Sony A1 with the 35-150. I also have the 150-600 and a couple others.
Sony a1 i think will be the top camera for a while still. I think it is so advanced that there's no need to upgrade. If your pictures are not turning out with either camera it's the photographers error. I think the Sony is a little power house and if you need that extra grip you can put it on. You don't have to carry that extra weight especially when your hiking taking pics of wildlife and you have one of those huge lenses to capture your subjects. And don't forget Sony makes sensors for most of these cameras. As for working in the dark. It's called muscle memory. It's not hard to memorize the buttons. Plus all the third-party lenses. I just think people like to jump on the next new not necessarily the best thing. No loyalty imo.
As a D750 owner, this video makes me very happy. I probably won't buy the Z9, but there's a very strong chance I'd buy the next Z7 model. I'm just waiting for them to update their 24mm PC lens.
It will be interesting what the next models have. The Z6 has better low light performance than the Z7. But you need at least 39mp for 8k video. Even many say you don’t need 8k video, trust me. When will be using it for digital cropping, panning and zooming in post.
Im also a D750 owner waiting patiently for a Nikon mirrorless to upgrade to. Hopefully a Z6 III with Z9 AF will be announced soon. Im glad I didn't jump in on the MK 1 and MK 2, they never excited me at all. I was also worried the company may not make it long term. I still believe the future could be rocky if they don't get a camera out that can compete with the R6/A74.
Glad to see Nikon getting some love again. I've been faithful to Nikon for six years, and was thinking hard about upgrading to Z7 II when I came across a super deal on a D850. It's been several months now with no regrets! Yeah, it's a dinosaur, but still world-class. I'm thrilled with the photos I'm getting. The Z9 is amazing, but it'll be a while before I go mirrorless.
You summed it up perfectly. I’m in the same situation.
The D850 is near the pinnacle of human ingenuity. Crazy that people would write it off.
Meanwhile I'm still using a D3300 lol
@@potatofuryy That was my first Nikon! Hey, it's a good camera. I used it over two years and got lots of nice shots.
You should fill ZERO embarrassment about rocking a fantastic Nikon D850 😁. That camera remains a beast and the king of DSLR land, the files are gorgeous!🔥Many of us mere financial mortals are not ready to take that costly mirrorless leap yet, especially for those that the Nikon DSLR’s are still more than enough gear. I look forward to Z9 technology trickling down, but in the meantime I am a happy Nikon DSLR girl.
Just before Christmas (2021) I sold my Nikon Z6 and my Nikon Z glass and switched to the Sony A7 IV and a smaller number of Sony lenses... The Sony autofocus is spot on, that was my major reason for switching. But after a month, I still don't have that warm feeling about my camera system that I had with Nikon... I feel like the ISO noise is noticeable higher than I remember with my Z6. I'm wondering if I made a several thousand dollar mistake and should have hung on with my Nikon Z glass a little longer and waited for the Z9 tech to filter down to to the Z6/Z7 mark III's.
Does anyone else feel like the Sony A7 IV has unacceptable noise at 2500 ISO and up?
I have been thru this and it was crazy. Loved my Z6 and even got the z7ii. I went for shoot where the Autofocus really frustrated me. Many shots I thought i got were soft or missed focus when I reviewed it. I sold off all my Nikon gear and lenses and bought into Canon R5. Great camera but every time I saw pictures I took with my Nikon, I felt like crying. I missed the colors and feel. The pictures just ddnt look ‘alright ‘ like i was used to with Nikon.
And more than anything, the RF glasses were killing my wallet! So many good lenses that I couldn’t afford and I found myself putting cheap glasses on the really good R5. I sold all the RF system again after 6months and I am back with Nikon z6ii now. I got some of the best Nikon lenses both Z and F just at the fraction of what the RF was costing me . Dont get me wrong, I lost a lot of money in the sales and trades but I love my pictures more now. I am happy to wait for the next z6iii or z7iii because I know they will have features from the z9.
You will have to settle for what is most important to you and your work. Ill say give it a few more months and see if you come around to love working with the Sony. Its a really good system and all but its no Nikon.
come on back to nikon...LOL you know where home is.
as a Sony user I would particularly like the tilting screen and backlit buttons. Most of the other stuff I can live without.
The cheaper price would be appreciated though.
yup that two way tilting screen is nice...
The tilting screen is now a major feauture all new camera models should consider. So much helpful in creating better compositions.
The A1 is now a year old and still has better auto focus, the next Sony update will. change minds about which camera is the ultimate, plus the lens line up is better on the Sony.
@Photo Bunny There are more lens choices for Sony, native lenses plus all the third party support.
it's so appalling when I hear about Sony's lens line up compared to canon and nikon. Sounds like the ops has no ideas of other systems and kinda parrots what others say ignorantly.
Don't forget tilt shift lenses, vintage, and an exotic number of long lenses from canon and nikon.
Love seeing some positivity and appreciation for the little details. Maybe I won't ditch Nikon when I go mirrorless after all ;)
Tony and Chelsea, welcome back!
No other camera currently in production compares to the Z9, A beast of a camera. Glad to be a Nikon shooter.
The Z9 is Nikons Second D3 moment.
I tried a Sony a6000 back in the day - wasn't my cup of tea - stayed with Nikon, and glad I did. Very nice to see you talking up the Z9.
@Tony & Chelsea Northrup - you really need to do something about these scam artists .. you're getting a lot of them.
A Nikon spokesman said the Z9 is in such high demand, that they will not have enough production capacity at their current factory in Thailand to do much of anything else this year. There are lenses coming, like the 85 f1.2 and 800 f8, but no new cameras are planned for 2022. The Z6 II and Z7 II will get firmware updates to bring better AF and EVF improvements. Today Nikon is a much smaller company and their current camera lines, especially the highly demanded Z9, will keep them busy for a few years.
Hi Tony,
My greatest enemy is dust... how about that on or in the Z9? My Nikons attrack dust like a vacum cleaner...
I really would like to swith to the Z9, but how about tracking and locking to fast moving objects, like sport cars, military jets?
Thank You for your answer!
Greetings from Belgium
Lambert
Not needing a mechanical shutter is a pretty big deal too
6:10 you really Check your exposure in the rear screen where you are influenced by the ambient light? Not the evf?
The 120fps stills mode in the Z9 is absolutely not 4K video written as stills as stated by the presenter. Its proper 11MP images taken at high speed which are actually higher resolution than 4K.
I thought people were mad about the Z9 😤 It would seem they are actually crazy about it 🥳
I happened to buy into canon shortly before the D850 was released. If I had waited, that would’ve been my camera system and I would be saving up for this camera. Well done, Nikon. The Z9 is a beautiful machine.
How big a deal is the raw 30 FPS in the A1 vs 20 FPS in the Z9? How often does those ten extra frames matter?
For flying birds 30 FPS raw is a big deal. I shoot most sports in JPG, but if it's say motocross where the sun might be in the shot, raw can help that.
@@TonyAndChelsea I saw a demo where the A1 shot 30 FPS for 4-5 seconds then slowed up vs the Z9 shooting 20 FPS sustained for 15 seconds can you verify this. Also you cant use the tracking on the A1 to achieve 30 FPS right?
Thanks for this video! Not only is it good to see Nikon's comeback, it's also great to get information about the usability of different cameras rather than a pure comparison of their spec sheets. In the end, not many people will shoot scenarios where you need 120 rather than 20 frames per second. Details like the illuminated buttons might make a difference though.
Which camera is better for beginning in photography and videography the canon m50 mark ii with the kit lens or the Nikon d5600 with the kit lens?
Your channel’s videos are always great, but the Nikon love is definitely appreciated.
Glad I stayed with Nikon. A Z9 is in my future.
I've never left Nikon and probably never will. I love their cameras! Many jumped ship because they followed the hype or wanted something they thought was the latest and greatest. Patience is a virtue. In my humble opinion, Nikon never stumbled, but was planning something great! Nikon!
It’ll take more than one Nikon model to catch up to Sony or Canon. Where would Nikon be if a Sony wasn’t providing sensors for them?
Really hope Fujifilm takes a hint from Nikon Z9 and bring the tilting screen back to X-T5. Flippy screen annoys me so much. It interferes with the cables too much and get bumped all the time when flipped out. If I want to do video, I will attach an external monitor. Influencers can buy X-S10 now.
I just love my copy of the Z9, my last flagship was the D4s then the D850 suite my purposes better. But now, smoke it, the Z9 is like 3 in 1, it has the speed from the D6, the details from 850 and the dark ability from the Z6. The story has just begun two weeks ago and I love every step of it.
Man that Z9 looks great. First camera to ever make this Sony shooter look over his shoulder in envy 😏
Nikon's back baby!!!
Yes!!!
I don't think they were ever gone..People just think a camera should do everything for them..with an EVF a new shooter will never learn how to expose properly...I'm still happy with the D500 for bif
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3:00 of course if you missed the right moment due to full card it is your fault. You ALWAYS see the number of remaining shots, so if its that extreme just swap at 400pics left.
You can never predict when the greatest moment is going to happen. If I miss the shot because I'm changing memory cards, but another manufacturer makes it possible for me to never change memory cards, how is that my fault?
Regardless of whether a perfect human could workaround a problem, I'm not a perfect human. Photography takes total concentration and it's the job of the camera to do as much as possible to reduce the photographer's cognitive load. A wildlife or sports photographer is thinking about so many non-camera related factors that they shouldn't also have to plan the right time to stop shooting and replace a memory card.
Had to check my calendar. For a moment there I was almost sure that it must be April's Fools Day for Tony to speak so good about Nikon. 😂
He's got a T shirt coming - and one for Chelsea as well!.
Trying to make a decision between getting D850 or Z9. I do mostly landscape, time lapse, and night sky photoshoot, but been thinking about doing more 8k 60fps video in the future, got a Sony Xperia 1 iii for mobile photoshoot. Any ideas?
Excellent review! I've been shooting Nikon since film days. In fact, I was able to snag one of the last film cameras Nikon made, the fm3a, which I love and still use. Film is still fantastic.
Interesting video, and funny how it highlights points that have a common factor, usability.....
Performance wise there isn’t much difference between the Z9 and the A1, however if undoubtedly the A1 is the camera to have, the Z9 is the one to use; usability, durability and reliability have always been key factors in professional photography, it took Sony a decade to produce a product that is almost usable, whilst it took Canon and Nikon 4 years to be on par with Sony on features and leaps and bounds ahead in usability, they have been concentrating on it for the past 40 years, they have had cameras in war zones, in hostile environments, in the hands of photographers working under all sorts of pressures, an invaluable feedback for deciding what features to prioritise and how to prioritise them.
120 FPS at 11MB sounds like a gimmick, however for a photojournalist, sideline sport photographer, with built in WiFi can make the difference between selling or not the image to the press agencies, a file that is instantly available and way more than good enough for printing.
Illuminated buttons have been around for at least 5 years, and illuminated screens for almost 20, why? Because they are extremely useful.
Canon and Nikon are protecting the sensor from dust simply because it’s a pain to cleaning them.
I love what Sony has done to photography by creating a thunderstorm in the industry, the outsider that has the opportunity and bravery to think outside the box, creating a new and improved market, a market that otherwise was condemned by its own success, 5 to 10 years ago the DSLRs reached the pinnacle point for its technology, its maximum performance. Whilst in terms of image quality and FPS we are still in the field of diminished returns, IQ will need the development of a new technology and FPS have reached a moving picture level, AF technology has benefited enormously from the mirrorless era. There isn’t a noticeable difference in IQ between DSLR and mirrorless, FPS is better in latter but definitely not a day vs night situation, AF on the contrary is a completely different ballgame.
The A1, Z9, R3 and whatever R1 will be, are tools for specific jobs and aimed to specific professionals, unless someone can take advantage and benefit from the extreme features their are just a fancy, a A7R3 or 4, a Z7ll or even D850, a R5 or 5DlV, just to mention a few, will do the same job for most people in most situations, sometimes even doing a better job.
I would have to say this is the best summation of the camera industry I have ever read.
@@andrewmason8691 thanks! Surely I am not the only one outside the UA-cam/social media hype, that doesn’t rely on sponsors, ads, and affiliates to generate income having this kind of views... on the other hand I earned my firs few bucks taking pictures 25 odd years ago after having messed about with cameras for almost 15; I soon realised that I had to be in the right place at the right time, I had to know how to use the equipment at its best, I had to know how to translate a concept into reality, and more importantly that it made almost no difference what equipment I was using as long as it was decent.
Thinking of moving from SL2 to 90D. Thoughts?
Don't forget the sensor dust cover! That's another huge plus for the Z9!
Why though? What does it do that closing the shutter doesn't do? Also no mechanical shutter means it has a 1/200 sync speed.
@@TonyAndChelsea The dust cover is more sturdy than mechanical shutters, which are delicate and easy to damage. Having a dedicated dust cover means you don't get dust on your sensor when you change lenses as it can be closed when you remove the lenses. Do your other other mirrorless cameras close their shutters over when you change lenses?
@@TonyAndChelsea Do you realise that sometimes of the "dust" is occasionally tiny debris off the actual shutter? Not having a shutter should decrease the times you need to clean the sensor which is a positive. Also the dust cover is instant and probably much more effective in protecting the sensor. I guess time will tell.
The return answer from Tony and Chelsea was very far off the mark. The Nikon Z 9 sensor shield is SO GOOD it will change cameras going forward. Christopher Sal is RIGHT! I bought the Z 9 for as much that reason is any after the announcement. IT WILL hopefully end up on a D500 mirrorless update.....DX is a big part of Nikon sales and the camera companies who drop APS-C cameras will suffer losses! I use FX and DX a LOT. I also would point out smartphones don't get the dust on the sensor problems that plague cameras. IF they did, an iPhone would be far less popular than it is!
@@TheTigers00001 YOU are right here. The sensor shield of the Z 9 is an advancement of GREAT value. It will be copied on MANY cameras going forward. Smartphones which take MOST of the photos today would be scrap soon if they had that dust on the sensor problem.
I sold my Z7 and Z7II to buy an A1 and now the A7 IV as my second body. I love these cameras, and moreover, I LOVE the Sony lens selection. But I miss the top display, and Nikon's colors. The "Nikon" feel is something I wish I still had. The Z9 announcement came about two months after I switched.
Now, I didn't switch because of the tech. I switched because Nikon pissed me off in a series of bad customer service experiences. So, I sold everything of the brand and bought a rather awesome and extensive Sony kit.
I find myself thinking about moving back, and who knows... maybe I will in the next year or two, especially when Nikon drops more of their big telephotos.
I start with Nikon years ago and now I own a lot of Sony gear. The Z9 is an amazing camera but at the end for me the lens collection is very important. And what Sony did in the last years are stunning. You date the body but you marry the lens 😉I will not switch back from Sony but competition is good for us as a customer.
The lighted buttons are the deal maker. What a terrific idea. Would be nice if Nikon could offer different colors, like give an option of using a yellow, green, or white light. One rant is insects will immediately fly to the light, so a yellow insect repellent light would have been wonderful.
Hi Tony, there are more and more features of Z9 that better than A1 such as instant start up, brightest viewfinder, real no skip frame when continuously shooting, battery life, real tougher pro body, more than 2 hours 8k shooting and etc. You should really do proper review and comparison instead of skipping out all the advantages of Z9 over A1. Please do the review professionally.
Glad you like it. Nikon d300s user here. About to
Make a jump to z6? Z6ii or something they haven’t released yet? Should I wait or get a z6 march 2022? Decisions decisions.
Buy any Z ..... after the DSLR, another planet
The Z 6 II might be what you should upgrade to. My D 300 sits on a shelf. Took some great photos, but cameras have vastly improved! Hell a D7500 will blow the doors off a D300S.
When the next top level Nikon is released, the Z9 will flood the used market and regular people will find it more affordable. I'm usually two steps behind the newest model.
I just bought a D850, will probably use that for a couple of years before switching to mirrorless. At the moment everything is more expensive with mirrorless.
Not everything if you look at the bigger picture. The 24-70F4S used open-box is $450 and outperforms the 24-70 f-mount 2.8 glass. The two compact primes are cheaper than f-mount 1.8G's, half the size, and match their performance. The 1.8S primes outperform 1.4G primes that are larger, heavier, and more expensive.
I need fewer lenses with the z-mount than f-mount. You get more for your dollar. They also aren't depreciating like f-mount gear will. ;)
Thank You for the review on the Z-9. My current camera is a D810 mostly using a AF-S😂 NIKOR 28-300mm😂 1:3.5-5.6 G lens. I have really enjoyed the setup. I am looking for a Nikon upgrade with a stronger telephoto lense. The Z9 would be great but a bit pricy…do you have an suggestions? I do general photography and wild life. I have really enjoyed your presentations
If you need 30 fps or if you are filling up 164 gb card in half a day, then you are not a photographer. You are a camera operator.
Why choose a slower shutter speed at 64 iso?
I wish Nikon would hurry up with a native z mount super telephoto... something to compete with the Sony 200-600. I know the 800 f6.3 prime was announced but that's got to be at least a $12k lens, right?
I agree, Nikon have to catch up with both Sony and Nikon re native mirrorless super telephotos and super zooms.
No, I don't think this will be the case.
I think the 800mm f/6.3 will be a PF lens and as such it should be remarkably small (for an 800mm) and also much less $ than a normal 800mm f/5.6. As an example, the current Nikon 500mm f/4 AF-S Nikkor FL ED VR is going for $10,296.95 on Adorama while the the Nikon 500mm f/5.6 E PF ED VR lens is going for $3,596.95 on the same site. You can see that the PF lens going for about 35% of the price of the 'big boy'. It is a stop slower, but at the same time it is much smaller and lighter and the IQ is comparable - so it is an incredible value for the money.
The current Nikon 800mm AF-S Nikkor f/5.6 E FL ED VR lens with the built in 1.4 Teleconverter is going for $16,296.95. Assuming the new 800mm lens is a PF version, and if we apply the same roughly 35% of the price, then the 800mm 6.3 S line lens could be as little as $5,700. I am thinking that it will be a PF as its silhouette on the Nikon lens roadmap is clearly smaller than the upcoming 600mm - by this I infer that it must be a PF or some other tech that makes the lens smaller and lighter at the expense of some speed. Still there is no guarantee that it will be 35% of the price just because the 500 PF is 35% of the full 500mm's price but this should be a reasonable gauge. Also, the 800mm f/5.6 has a built in teleconverter making it an even more expensive lens, the 800 6.3 S will most certainly not have this feature, so perhaps it will be a little less than $5,700.
Still, at $5,700 it is not cheap, but this becomes in the realm of affordability for serious hobbyists, whereas $16k is probably out of the question at any point. Also, $5,700 puts it at the same approximate price point as the 200mm f/2 - Nikon's premier portrait lens and although expensive many portrait and wedding photographers did stretch to get it.
Still, the 500 PF is a full stop slower than the normal 500, so it is strange that this potential 800 PF would only be 1/3 of a stop slower than the big boy - that seems almost too good - like why would anyone pay the extra 11K for a third of a stop - but it does have the teleconverter so who knows.
Either way, the fact that the 800mm is smaller than the upcoming 600mm and the fact that they definitely announced that it is a f/6.3 indicates that this is intended to be a PF type of lens (by this I mean a smaller and lighter and presumably more affordable version of the lens - not necessarily PF tech - IDK).
Either way, I think it is safe to say that it will not exceed $6000 and so it will be affordable to those that really, really want it and can save up a little.
@@baronsilverton6504 Hmm perhaps it does seem like it will be a PF lens here's the press release:. "The NIKKOR Z 800mm f/6.3 VR S is an S-Line* lens, delivering powerful rendering with outstanding resolution while thoroughly reducing color bleeding. By adopting a PF (Phase Fresnel) lens for the first time in a NIKKOR Z model, a compact and lightweight body is realized, making it highly portable despite being a super-telephoto lens. With its high rendering performance and superb mobility, this lens will reliably support the imaging expression of many photographers ranging from advanced amateurs to professionals."
I hope its more sub $6k that would be a nice surprise
@@jasond1500 Great - there is confirmation of what seemed very likely anyway just by looking at the silhouette and size of the lens. WIth this knowledge, I would guess that it should be under $6k - I think this is the breaking point number where many advanced hobbyists will stretch to get a lens. Anything above this and certainly anything that is 5 digits (10k and more) are pretty much off the table for all but agencies and very specific and specialized pros that work in niche fields.
Maybe they will surprise us an keep it below $5k but I kind of doubt this, but as long as it is less than $6k my guess is that it will sell very well indeed.
Give me a z6iii and 4K 60fps with no crop and with internal 10-bit 4:2:2 recording and I’m set for life with wedding films!
I shoot Canon but I'm glad to see Nikon finally get serious with modernity, if only at the pro end. Hopefully the consumer and prosumer market will see the trickle down (God, I hate that phrase) before too long.
I've stuck with Nikon since 1985 when I bought my first 35mm SLR camera by them. As a professional wedding photographer, I always looked at Nikon's final RAW image itself, which tends to favour more naturalistic results that you might want to tweak later yourself to add a bit of added visual dynamism and punch. So the gimmicks and features that all the other major brands were bringing out never got close to out-weighing this and never once did I ever think of jumping ship. I felt, like Tony and Chelsea that the D850 was and still is the best DSLR camera ever made. And now that my z9 has finally arrived, I can honestly say that they have done it again! My 37 years of loyalty, paid back 100-fold with both the best ever DSLR and now an absolute masterpiece in the mirrorless AND SHUTTERLESS z9.
Speaking of releases. Based on your experience, when do you think the next gen z6/7iii or whatever they want to call it might be coming out? I am looking to upgrade from the 1st z7, but dont need the z9 and would hate to buy a z7ii and 3 to 5 months later the z7iii drops.
I would wait until the end of the year. If it is not a 3rd gen, then it will be a Z9 in a smaller body.
Tony making amends with Nikon. There was a reason why he was one of the last YT influencers to receive the Z9. 🤷🏻♂️Chelsea make a comment on a previous vlog about burning enough bridges, hope this resolves things! Ordered my Z9 on 10/28, and waiting to put to use with my 11 Z lenses. Currently using the Z6II and the Zfc. In the glass case is my dads Nikon SP rangefinder, F, F100, and my Nikon Coolpix 990, D300 and D500. Loyalty is a virtue.
I use the Z fc a LOT. And I own the Z 9 and Z 6 II......
I picked up a Z6ii and love the camera being a weekend shooter not a pro by any means but it flat out works and works well
This makes me remember how much I loved my Nikon D70 way back in the day. Loved this really positive review.
I’m amazed at how the so-called camera testers on youtube and on the web reviews cameras. .
Sony A1 and Canon R3 are raised to the skies and that they can run 30 fps RAW according to spec. Both cameras are quite limited with most parameters to reach 30 fps, and the Sony A1 reaches just under 20 fps in normal use.
But what I am amazed of that no one mentions. The image quality on Sony and Canon at higher fps is rather limited. When you select eshutter in the “Studio scene” on dpreview, both cameras are a disaster in DR and NOISE. To get most out of Sony and Canon you have to run them with mechanical shutter. Sony A1 can handle 10 fps and Canon 12 fps with mechanical shutter. Sony will also be limited to 12 bits in "30 fps".
Nikon Z9 always runs constantly 20 fps, with full quality, DR and Noise levels regardless of settings and even with old F glasses. No limits!
It is quite a challenge to have a fast readout combined with high image quality. That Z9 can deliver D850 image quality with a 1/270 readout speed is sensational!
Canon R3 have 1/180 at 24 MP with limited image quality at top speed. To get full quality out of R3 you are limited to 12 fps.
Sony A1 have 1/250 at 50 MP with limited image quality at top speed. To get full quality out of A1 you are limited to 10 fps.
I’m starting to doubt that Canon have the ability in the near future to deliver a R1 that can get close to the resolution and speed of the Z9.
Sony and Canon is not there yet!
In this day and age, literally EVERY camera needs lighted buttons.
Nothing new here. For years, Canon and others have been first out of the gate with features, (usually awkwardly implemented) and then Nikon comes out later with better integrated, more thoughtful implementations of those features.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Nikon. What we have is everyone that has their own opinion about what "they" want. You and Chelsea have to admit you have been all over the map over the last 3 years. The D850 was magnificent camera. For a Digital Camera, you got it all in one package. But camera bodies change every 2 years like clockwork, and there will be something new in the next 24 months. I admit, I was Nikon until 2011, after a 56-year relationship with Nikon. I moved to another platform that met "my" needs, and I have not moved since. What I have discovered through all of this, each of the cameras from Nikon, Canon, Sony, and the array of others, is that they will take absolutely beautiful and amazing photographs. It is not what feature is in each brand, it is what is in the 6"-8" behind the eyepiece. Enjoy whatever brand that does exactly what you want and need for it to do. Sorry Tony, it is not a rebuttal to your points, but more of an encouragement to everyone out there who picks the camera for them.
I have always been a Canon user but I'm happy for Nikon for getting back on their feet!
Yay for Nikon! Said as Canon shooter.
All I want is the Z9 AF in a Z6ii firmware upgrade or in a Z6iii. Cheers.
That would be great - a simple tap and track implementation that is sony/canon level and I'd be happy. I've a feeling the next mid market camera will also have 10 bit internal to compete with the A74 and R6.
Somewhere I saw a cfexpress type b adapter that takes a small form factor m.2 ssd. No idea how it would work in camera.
Ordered that last night to try it out :D
@@TonyAndChelsea Angelbird 512GB AV PRO CFexpress 2.0 Type B SE Memory Card. $179. Looks like 850 sustained write
Sony is going to fire you Tony!😎
The difference between using your smartphone for GPS is that it most likely is providing you “A-GPS” services, not just GPS. GPS is fine, but it’s slow to acquire and often won’t work in larger buildings. A-GPS uses augmentation from cellphone towers to greatly speed position acquisition and in-building performance. That’s the advantage of linking your cellphone rather than just relying on “GPS” built into the device. To Tony’s point though, Sony’s way of linking is fussy, It requires constant vigilance to make sure it’s actually working.
are you saying my Sony A7R IV that has an ISO of 64 it's not Native ? and extended , which I don't know what that means anyway! I always thought extended means going above 6400 all the up to 128,000 or 256,000
The sony A7R IV has a native range from 100-32000.
Anything beyond that is extended, whether it be above or below.
@@JuanSanchez-zz3me ok but what does that mean though? like it's fake sensor sensativity?
Yes, the Nikon 'comeback' with the Z9 is wonderful for us long time Nikon users. I was genuinely concerned about the company, what with their weak financials through the pandemic, and oddly un-finished Z6/Z7 (remember that bizarre Z battery grip...?). But the Z9 is right on the money, in every way, which I hope bodes well for future cameras too...
I still have my D90 and I use this as backup for my Sony A1. Still love my Nikon. But I am every happy with my workhorse A1
Did you get it working after the firmware update glitch?
Thanks for the vid and I agree with the conclusion -- I own a Z9 and have never wanted the Sony A1.
However -- I would have added the fact that the Z9 is far far far more robust than the flimsy A1.
The Z9 fits perfectly in my hand and from the 600/4 - 200/2 to 105/1.4 to 40/2 it pairs perfectly with all the lenses in my collection. The FTZII is a great adapter - works perfectly with all my gold ring lenses AND 3rd party lenses like an Otus.
I took the Z9 and a 70-200+TC14 to a hawk shoot on Saturday and have concluded that I obtained 5-10 times more shots than I would have done with my D6, D850 or Z7.
Earlier in the week I shot Common Kingfishers diving and at 120 fps was able to secure the shot of the bill of the bird just penetrating the surface of the water -- and produce a short vid of the whole dive, catch and recover cycle using the 1.2 second burst. Yes - writing to an ultra fast 128 GB Delkin Black card was a huge help -- other than when shooting faster than 20 fps I use lossless RAW and have not needed to use any of the other smaller file options. Using the programmable buttons on the front of the camera instantly switching between focussing modes -- the Z9 has enabled me to obtain shots I could not have obtained before.
I love my Sony A1 with the 35-150. I also have the 150-600 and a couple others.
Sony a1 i think will be the top camera for a while still. I think it is so advanced that there's no need to upgrade. If your pictures are not turning out with either camera it's the photographers error. I think the Sony is a little power house and if you need that extra grip you can put it on. You don't have to carry that extra weight especially when your hiking taking pics of wildlife and you have one of those huge lenses to capture your subjects. And don't forget Sony makes sensors for most of these cameras. As for working in the dark. It's called muscle memory. It's not hard to memorize the buttons. Plus all the third-party lenses. I just think people like to jump on the next new not necessarily the best thing. No loyalty imo.
I don't know if anyone else has said it yet but the real benefit here is that when one camera maker's technology leapfrogs another's it's a benefit for every photographer in the sense that that "leapfrogging" causes other manufacture's to innovate and compete which in turn trickles down to the photographers...
Right now it's the Z9. Next maybe it's Canon's turn, then Sony... Wash rinse repeat.
It's a great time to be a photographer.
This made my day Tony while stuck here at the airport caused flight canceling, Thank you very much, You and Chelsea are awesome friends- now time for us to go chase wildlife. Nikon had come a long way, but they finally catching up.
Hi Tommy!!
I started with nikon at age 15 in 2004 with my dad's old fm2. Since then I've had an f80, d80, d300, d7000, d800, df, z6 and recently due to the fm2 look a zfc (by the way tony try it with the 28mm and smallrig grip it's a different camera) and the z9 has made me excited for the next generation of z6 and z7 I assume one of them will be my next purchase
Apparently there's a depth of field issue highlighted by Hudson Henry Photography on all Nikon Z cameras including the Z9 where the depth of field does not go beyond f.5.6 on a f.2.8 lens.. Has anyone noticed this issue??
Ricci Talks of UK and Matt Irwin have addressed that. Since I NEVER buy 2.8 lens now as my 2.8 Nikon lens era was in the 1980s..... I have not experienced this problem. But that is a set up and use issue. My audience demands WIDE depth of field so I shoot at f 8 as much as possible.
I started with a D600 about 10 years ago as my first DSLR, now owning 50mm 1.4, 14-24 2.8, and 24-70 2.8... i love my camera as far for taking photos but d600 is not for recording, so i have been in the dilemma of switching brand, it would be a big investment if i do, but if this Z9 can fix my needs around the same budget I think I might be staying.
Iam NOT a switcher by the way, i stay to NIKON from my first Nikkormat, ....Question when do you compare Picture quality Z9 to Z7 II ? I heard someone told me Z7II has better Quality then Z9 !?!
Nikon is back in the game!!!
If I was younger and didn’t already have 3 Canon DSLRs and 6 Canon EF L series lenses, I would be jumping to Nikon Z
i know the feeling.
A7SIII user and the I don’t understand why Sony went with the type a, when B is faster, larger, and cheaper. I think the coolest difference was the GPS. The light up buttons is cool as well, though I think I know where they all are on my camera.
so i dont get it, are you shooting in 4k or hd,
My first DSLR was Nikon 12 years ago. The interface was super straight forward and colors were always great. I hope Nikon really goes all out on the photo/video hybrids going forward. They have nothing to lose.
Agreed - they have the tech now. The AF was the stick they were continually been beaten with. Hopefully a mid market camera will appear soon.
As a sony user i feel that most normal people who made fun of canon and nikon in the past years would be right they where slow to move to a clearly better method tech. Now we are at a point that i think these same people can see that both canon and nikon are maybe not always for us but earn the respect that for example the D850 always had. For canon i feel the R5 is the one that is the new baseline and for nikon its the z9. I agree with about 4 points on this list the rest i disagree or don't care about but thats not the point here. If i would be in a nikon user this would be where i would move over from dslr to mirroless and i think the Z7II and Z9 are aimed for that.
I own many of the cameras you speculate about. But USE the Nikon Z fc and Z 50 MORE than the others. I also use an iPhone a LOT. I tested the Z 7 II and Z 7 II before I bought one some time ago, and ended up with the Z 6 II. I have used our Sony A 1 a LOT as well and really wonder if a batch of the user comments are because they bought a Chevy say it is better. The Nikon 850 is a great DSLR, the D500 we have gets FAR more use. The Sony A 1 use of the two SD cards is part of the reason I bought a Nikon Z 9. All of these use scenarios I believe comes down to this.....What counts is being at the best place at the best time with a good enough camera.......
@@davidjohnson4451 In no way trying to attack you but why put sd cards into the A1 if you need the extra speed (except for cost that we all hope comes down). The nice thing about being able to use 2 card formats in the A1 is that you can do both all video modes for example don't need express cards. So can't see how picking a Z9 because of the use of 2 sd cards is a reason i guess you mean that you find the express-a cards not fast enough ? Personally given the buffer depth and write speed i found it a pretty good balance. The A1 provides both options thats why i personally think its a good and understandable compromise and i hope the express-a finds its place in the market so price of cards come down which is at the moment its biggest downside.
@@scb2scb2 I use Express Cards type B in the Z 9 is that is all it will take. I use the cards that are in the camera when I use the Sony A 1. But I have used several different cards in the A 1. The type A cards have not really been given ratings that make me want to use them. I will say I use mostly SD card cameras for the majority of my shooting as they are a very good compromise. Last thing I need is killing ANOTHER computer with a jammed up storage from large file sizes. Cards will come down in cost, that is technology at a fast pace, but INFLATION is going to hurt us all over time.
@@davidjohnson4451 Not sure if i fully graps what you are saying but it sounds that the A1 you have access to only uses sdcards because of price/size and thats a valid point for many people but if you jump to z9 all your old cards can't be used and for video work thats kind of a loss. Not sure what you mean with size on the computer that seems to be a different issue where you prefer the z9 options over the a1 options (and thats fine). On the prices coming down on express-a cards that worries me a little if sony stays the only one that is using them so i personally hope some other brands that have smaller camera bodies like fuji might follow sony in this dual+dual card option. I can share that for me (and yes thats a personal view) sony made a compromise i can live with i have 2 express-a 160G cards and many sdcards and the A1 performs nicely in each usecase. I am also not 100% sure that sony would have been able to jam 2 express-b cards in their current body design and clearly they wanted to stay close to the current size. Anyway good luck with the Z9 its a amazing camera it would be a option for me if they also made it in the z7ii style of body i just prefer that style.